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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 05:46:04 »

which part of your body do they usually attack?

It it depending on what memory they attack me from, Usually, They tear at my limbs, or go for the head. Sometimes they don't even attack me, They just torture me with images of my family dying.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 06:22:43 »

Dreams are a little bit tricky. It's difficult to say how much of what you see is your imagination and how much is evil entities. Personally a lot of my nightmares are caused by evil entities and I guess that they somehow feed off my fear. Most of the time after realizing their presence I stop their scenario, go out of my body and drive them away very easily. Whether they are real or not meditation and having a good life style(e.g. sleeping early, food, physical exercise, meditation, ...) can help you to stop the nightmares. Just be patient and positive. It might take some time but this method has worked for most of us. Ten years ago when I was about your age I had to encounter negative entities almost every night either in my dreams or in OBE but after starting meditation and martial arts everything started to change. Even now they attack me once every few months especially when I am under stress but it's not a big deal anymore. As long as we stay positive and calm we are much stronger than them.   
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 10:13:02 »

I work as a tank, so while they are kicking the living **** out of me, the healers casters and rangers are free to work, thats what a tank does they take lots of agro,

I have been attacked thousands of times over the 16 years i have been projecting, for some people the astral is all bunnys and rainbows but thats only because thats all they can do

people who are willing to work on the problems in life get sent to places where there is a need for them, maybe the reason this is happening to you is because you can cope with it and it may turn into something really great later, just keep your chin up and be strong and just

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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 16:11:41 »

Well, What you're saying is contrary to what everyone else says, What do you mean?
You'll get that a lot, because there are many different opinions on the subject.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 18:31:38 »

Sorry to spoil the party, but spirit people dont attack people, that pure fantasy and fiction, so need to worry about that...bad dreams are nightmares. Regards.

I mostly agree with this.

I think most often it is something people are in denial about in their waking life and the subconscious is trying to work it out.

Often it is something bad the person is doing to others around them and the last thing they are going to do is admit it to themselves consciously and change their behavior.

Sometimes it is something *really* bad that someone else did to them or is doing to them and they are in denial about. The subconscious is trying to work it out.

One thing that surprises me is the number of young people out there these days reporting negs, dark entities, bad dreams, etc.
I have been close to the Consciousness movement since the 1970's with meditation and dream work and such and what I see now seems unusually like an epidemic of sorts. I started teaching dream work in the 1980s and although not unheard of, it was much more rare then, than now. Do any of the older folks (over 40 or 50) here notice anything similar?
Or is it just these AP/OBE forums?
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 21:08:02 »

Well, What you're saying is contrary to what everyone else says, What do you mean?

Does that make it wrong? I mean just as I said.
 
Im not trying to sound cocky in any way, just adding to the conversation.
I work as a spiritualist medium which doesn't mean I know everything but in my experience I have seen felt and heard countless spirit people and given countless messages, so why haven't I come across the spirits that attack people? that's why i don't believe its true and to be honest why would they and more to the point how could they?? Maybe Ill be surprised and be proved wrong, but until then i have go with my experience and understanding.

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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 22:33:44 »


Some people believe that people's own projected 'versions' can cause bad dreams, such as people can have shared dreams.  This is not 'spirit entities', but other projectors, who may be angry at another person and may have subconsciously directed hostile thoughts at the other person.
I have woken up from nightmares only to hear a voice whispered in my ear something hostile like a suggestion, making me think that a person can do this to another- once again not a spirit, but a projector with malice.
Of course, this is the exception to the rule- I do believe that 99.9% (made-up statistic) is self created and psychologically based.
So I do think that you can be interfered with, but not by spirits- I agree with Majour Ka that spirits don't attack.  But living people, IMO, can.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2012, 22:38:07 »

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Do any of the older folks (over 40 or 50) here notice anything similar?
I think it's the forums- as you know, where I admin there is a specific forum just for that type of problem, and I find that in the last few years we get less new people with those kinds of problems, it's the same crowd, mostly.  So Idk if it's one of these faddish things, everyone all of a sudden discover metaphysics, jump in, some have side effects, then it becomes a 'normal' part of the landscape, people adapt, lose interest, and then it normalizes.
Anyway, it seems like that anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 00:16:34 »

I think it's the forums- as you know, where I admin there is a specific forum just for that type of problem, and I find that in the last few years we get less new people with those kinds of problems, it's the same crowd, mostly.

Yeah, I was thinking about it and back then there was no internet and all communication was face to face so there is a fair chance that fewer folks chose to express it openly.

I remember you were admin at a RBruce forum but I thought that shut down about a year ago. I was not aware you were admin elsewhere now.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 03:42:38 »

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in my experience I have seen felt and heard countless spirit people and given countless messages

And how can you be sure that those countless spirit people were not a creation of your fantasy?   grin

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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 04:43:28 »

Yeah, I was thinking about it and back then there was no internet and all communication was face to face so there is a fair chance that fewer folks chose to express it openly.

I remember you were admin at a RBruce forum but I thought that shut down about a year ago. I was not aware you were admin elsewhere now.
He moved to a new host.  His forum is still very much active.
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 22:48:23 »

Hi,
If these bad dreams are part of the general increase in concious awareness it may be that this increase is basically the thought=action in an unconcious form showing itself. A study of the lifestyles of a good number of sufferers may produce a result showing this is a natural event. So many sociological problems start with fear based peer group ideals and not fitting in isnt an option. Fear is the first emotion we all have to come to terms with in our earliest attempts to project. On this site this fact is constantly being posted as the barrier to cross.
Just a thought..
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2012, 08:17:03 »

My personal opinion based on my subjective experiences is that encountering wild entities is not necessarily imaginary or related to our fear as our world is close to both higher realms and the lower ones which makes it possible to encounter both types of beings not matter how positive we are, but of course as I said earlier having a good life style can dramatically reduce the scary experiences. There are wild astral entities and there are more civilized ones. Also there are powerful astral being and there are weak astral beings. Over the years I have seen all kinds of them. Most of the hostile beings are weak and for some reason(maybe feeding off our energy) just try to scare us but I have also seen powerful hostile beings that can even affect the physical world by playing with flames, moving objects, pushing me, grabbing my neck, etc.( wink of course not as exaggerated as in movies) Sometimes I don't really need to go out of my body to see them and one example was many years ago when I spent a night in a house that had been vacant for many years. The entity in that house tried to scare me by playing with the flame of my lantern as well as pushing me towards a wall, grabbing my neck and insulting me. I got the message and left immediately the next day. Another example is the spirit of one my relatives who died after many years of fighting with cancer. Before her funeral she was very confused and appeared in front of me a few times(in the physical world). The first night she tried to rip my aura apart and get inside my body from dazhui (an acupuncture point at the back of the neck) but I didn't let her. The second night she came again. This time I went out of my body and saw that she was in a pretty bad shape the same as when she was sick. I tried to calm her down and gave her some of my own energy. She finally calmed down and told me that she was very tired and that there were other beings who were not good to her. I prayed for her in the astral world and went back to my body. The next day after her funeral she stopped appearing in this world, however last year I asked my guide to bring me to her. We went to some underground tunnels and I saw that she was still weak and in pain but she didn't realize that I was there. Last night she attacked my dazhui again while laughing and was completely out of her mind. This time I didn't see any point in reasoning with her and went back to sleep.

I find the idea of thought= action too simple to explain everything in the astral realm although your basic intention might be the most important factor, there are also other factors like how much reserved energy you have and how other conscious entities are involved in your experiences.  
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2012, 22:11:15 »

Wow, thank you all for sharing your knowledge.
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2012, 03:51:44 »

Yeah, I was thinking about it and back then there was no internet and all communication was face to face so there is a fair chance that fewer folks chose to express it openly.

I remember you were admin at a RBruce forum but I thought that shut down about a year ago. I was not aware you were admin elsewhere now.
The forums are still open, they just have a new address.
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