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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2004, 19:00:11 »

Eh, i had the same thing when i was younger...actually 3-4 years ago I would be trying to sleep, lying on my bed and all of a sudden i would become scared ****less.  Never knew why this happened, but i would cower under my covers like Sain and wait for it to go away.  

Though, sometimes i had the balls to get out under covers and check out what was going on (still scared ****less).  I would consider it just a phase, because soon after, this stopped and everything was just dandy.  Maybe it had something to do with negs...i have no clue, but IMO i don't like assigning anything due to negs, so i'll just say it was because of my fear of the dark.  

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2004, 21:30:20 »

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particular method works because you've tried it successfully?



to tell the truth I rarely get "attacked" and when I do I usually imagine white bright light , [8D]
the ones that I actually "FEAR" I start singing in my head,this will get your mind onto something else,
I figure you can always imagaine yourself kicking someones butt kung-fu style, that'd be cool.[Wink]


but in many cases the "fear" is unneeded and NOT ALL NEG ATTACKS ARE ATTACKS
energy is exchanged for information, im sure even "guardian angels" or friendly entitys will echange energy with you, and you might interpret it as an attack,

If you try and find out what the "entity" really wants, and if you don't let fear in the way usually they don't want anything more than a good multi-dimensional geometry portal (chakra) to latch onto.

but If you fear allot, you probally don't even want to try and figure out the intent of the creature/entity, and you project your own fears onto the experience OH MY GAWD MY BRAIN IS BEING SUCKED OUT MY NOSTRILZ!........
.......................[:O][:O]...aaaaaaaAAACHOOOOooo!...............
(bless you;)  

I think its easiest just to forget about it, people have trouble doing that. When they are spooked by a noise at night they get all paranoid.
Ive noticed that when Im meditating distracting noises will occur. Tantric Buddhism/Hinduism and yoga masters all describe these things, I try and pay no attention to them.

Ive had "sleep Paralasis" Once or twice, all of them I thought I was awake, and couldn't move and  the entity stood by my bed,
both times I was having irregular sleep patterns the days before and/or was especially emotional those days. Ive discovered the entity is myself.

Trying to rationalize irrational fear is really hard to do.  IF you are constantly fearing that everytime you meditate you will become attacked, then make some protections for it. (or try and not fear,)

If you convince yourself that burning a candle will erradicate all "negative" entitys, then it'll work,                             I'm (you're) sure of it.

but I live in canada, and its a well known fact that the majority of negs frequent USA. no offence to americans, but theres bad mojo lines, criss-crossing all over the states, ( this suddenly just flashed  a whole dream sequence to me, but thats another story)...

anyhow if you ever watch bowling for columbine you'd know what I mean by bad mojo.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2004, 09:05:49 »

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[brbut in many cases the "fear" is unneeded and NOT ALL NEG ATTACKS ARE ATTACKS
energy is exchanged for information, im sure even "guardian angels" or friendly entitys will echange energy with you, and you might interpret it as an attack,
 

Yes agreed. Have seen this as a technique being used to get information from the persons past.
Potentially ultimately no more desirable than an attack but that is generally unknown by the person involved. Good or bad experience?

 
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If you try and find out what the "entity" really wants, and if you don't let fear in the way usually they don't want anything more than a good multi-dimensional geometry portal (chakra) to latch onto.


If I am reading you correctly I too have thoughts that humans can and do provide a gateway into different spaces that might well be exploited by entities. Humans perhaps due to having several 'bodies' have a view into different levels dependant on the intent of focus. Entities of limited capability might well like to be hooked into this opportunity, the impact for the host no doubt are subject to a debate Smiley.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2004, 10:23:09 »

Thank you Volcomstone, that was good, it was what I was wanting to know. That was an interesting thought about the chakras acting as gateways. I'd never considered it before! With your description and Mick's expansion on the idea...that's really quite fascinating!

I have also had the "monster under my bed" feeling. I still get it from time to time. Ususally happens if I half wake up from a dream - looking at the everyday things in my bedroom but percieving them as something else due to my semi-conscious, semi-dream state. It can be really frightening!! For me though, it is only fear itsself, due to an alteration of perception from what's expected. As soon as my conscious mind fully sirfaces, I usually end up feel like a complete prat!

Sain, what you describe, feeling the presence as you are going to sleep, I think might fit in with the concept of hypnogogic images - the pre-dream state. It's that borderline between the waking mind and the dreaming mind, which also employs the same mechanisms as when the mind enters an OBE state.

It is possible you are actually percieving real entities, of a level beyond our physical world. This could be quite frightening, much like seing a ghost for the first time. The fear though is more likely just that of the unknown, rather than something that really should be feared. It's not uncommon for spirits to try and contact us during a dream state. At this time our minds are not closed to the possibilities.

If you can remember to (hard when you're drifting off to sleep I know), try and think about being curious as to what's there, rather than afraid. Try to understand it. Experienced astral projectors say that the best way to enter the astral is with a mild curiosity, so that your perceptions are not affected by notions or fears. This might work well for you.

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2004, 19:15:11 »

Sain, try being all arrogant and thinking to yourself that you're more powerful than the neg/ghost/figment of your imagination, and that it should be afraid of you.  I get this sometimes, and that's generally what I do.  Sometimes it even helps to laugh evilly[}:)]Bwauhahahaha
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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2004, 03:03:52 »

I came up with a new tech!  I surround myself in bright energy, then i make it sort of grow out in long, sharp, strong spikes, and i leave them there.  Kinda like a porcupine, except without a soft underbelly[|)]
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2004, 04:15:15 »

That's intersting Findtruth, My guide has instructed me on something very similar to this in the past.
 
There was a situation where I need to banish a devious spirit that had tried to communicate with me when I first started trialing a pendulum. My guide suggested a very spiky sphere of white light/energy as you mentioned. The only difference is instead of growing the spikes, I rapidly expanded the sphere, sending it out like a shock wave. Felt no trace at all of that spirit afterwards.

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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2004, 17:05:55 »

Heh heh, it's probably pinned down somewhere and can't get up[}:)]
I usually do the porcupine thing before I meditate or go into a trance if I feel something lurking around.
Another one I use, is taking some energy out of the earth as a sort of, rushing column of white fire and I "burn" the neg until it goes away or is destroyed or whatever happens to them.  It's still pretty weak though
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2004, 17:19:14 »

Recently, I've been getting rid of any negs that attempt to bother me on sight.  If they don't go away after I say something intimidating to them, for example "Boo"(hey, it works), then I use one of my energy techs until they go away.  I don't think that they can be killed in the sense that we understand, but the ones I seem to be encountering of late go away after I get agressive.  Since I've been intolerant of having negs around(last 2.5 weeks or so) they seem to be coming less and less often, and the negs are more cautious and quick to leave when they do arrive.  Should I be worried about something more powerful coming along and taking over for the weaker negs? Because, currently, this is rather nice.
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2004, 23:57:34 »

Prayer works i find and there are plenty out there related to this subject. What i also find helps is if you raise your consciousness/energy level while saying the prayer and be powerful in the way you say it. Vibrating the words loudly and visualizing white fire (holy spirit) coming from your mouth as you pronounce the words.

Here is one called "The Rune of St Patrick". I quote from a book on Celtic Shamanism called "Fire in the Head" by Tom Cowan;

"St Patrick's lorica is a Christian variation for older magic, typical of the druids. Patrick composed it on a trek to Tara fraught with enemy ambushes. Before the Saint and his eight young clerics departed, he cast a spell over them to make them invisible. As they passed, the enemy soldiers saw only eight deer. As an enchanment of invisiblity or as a shapeshifting feat, Patrick's spell succeeded, and he sang triumphantly the hymn that became known, appropriately, as the "Deer's Cry".
    The hymn also includes "Patrick's Breastplate," translated in numerous ways over the years to emphasize either the poetry or the prayer. In the version below with its lean, unembelleshed imagery, the lorica could be uttered convincingly by any pagan priest or shaman.

I arise today,
Through the strength of heaven,
Light of the Sun,
Radiance of Moon,
Splendour of Fire,
Speed of Lightning,
Swiftness of Wind,
Depth of Sea,
Stability of Earth,
Firmness of Rock.

A considerably expanded version of the lorica survives as the Rune of St Patrick. The elements of nature are the same as in pre-Christian spells but the final invocation is for God's help to protect the spellcaster from evil.

At Tara today in this fateful hour,
I place all Heaven with its power,
And the Sun with its brightness,
And the snow with its whiteness,
And Fire with all the strength it hath,
And lightning with its rapid wrath,
And the winds with their swiftness along the path,
And the sea with its deepness,
And the rocks with their steepness,
And the Earth with its starkness:
All these i place,
By God's almighty help and grace,
Between myself and the powers of Darkness."



The longer version above is great and i get really good effects! I start off slow in a low voice then with each succeeding line raise the volume of my voice until the last three where you can almost feel the power of the words as you powerfully intone "By Gods almighty..." etc. I think part of the trick with these is to actually inflame yourself with prayer. Oh and if you use this you may want to change "At Tara..." to wherever you are etc. Also perhaps just as you pronounce the last word in the prayer and if you own a bell (i collect bells) strike the bell with a striker as if to add dramatic emphasis on your command.
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« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2004, 08:25:52 »

SpectralDragon,

I finally got around to reading the post about your experience right the way through. Sorry it took me so long.[:I]

It's quite an amazing story! Have you been able to get any good insight into your lucid dreams? There's some very powerful imagery in them. I'm no good at interpreting such things, but I felt there was important messages in them.

You're ability to tune in into the astral at the same time as seing the physical is a rare ability. I've only heard Robert Munroe and Frank speak of being able to do this, though it is also practiced by shamans & sourcerers. Usually takes some time to be able to get to that point! I can only guess that the traumatic (if you wish to use that word) experiences you went through in your earlier years could have triggered these abilities.

I'm just guessing here, but do you think your neg attacks came about as a result of what you experienced in your dreams? I'm thinking along the lines that you may have really p*ssed someone / something off.

I'd dare say Kereen is your guardian, as well as guide, though I suppose the two words could imply the same thing. Esp. since you've been aware of her presence for so long. I'm happy for you that you've come to know her fairly quickly. It took me way too long to recognise who my guide and guardian was. Needless to say she was very happy when I finally paid attention. I too became 'distracted' by God, at least God according to the christian church. I don't disblieve the Creator's existance, I just feel that not all of us have paths that are meant to have direct contact. There are other spirits that work for and with the Creator that we are sometimes meant to be guided by.

From your dreams I'd say you were meant to be one who fights - a guardian yourself. Sound like you were also taught how and when to retreat - good for staying alive.[Wink]

I understand a lot more of your perspective now. I guess there will always be soldiers, and there will always be anti-war protesters. your situation is possibly a little more unique to that of many people here. Most of us can sucessfully dispell negs with some aggressive form of white light or other disruptive energies. But then most of us are only ever dealing with the theives and muggers of the astral - the common scum. Not often do people have to deal with the heavily armed maurauders!

Kind regards,
James.
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« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2004, 10:54:31 »

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Yes my post was WAY too long, sorry about that [:I] made it as short as possible, and the fact is that's only PART of the story (IE: "went into what I thought was another dream", didn't go into NEARLY enough here)

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Have you been able to get any good insight into your lucid dreams?


I had originally written that for the dream section matter of fact [8D] I have been able to discern a lot myself over the years but not nearly all of it I don't think.

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I can only guess that the traumatic (if you wish to use that word) experiences you went through in your earlier years could have triggered these abilities.


there are many factors that I believe are the cause of this
1) you already mentioned, the "truamatic experiences" (can't seem to put a correct phrase on that either.)
2) The meditation I put in the OBE forum. (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10449)
3) The fact that I was pulled out of the astral and did not do it on my own my first time around.
4) more, can't remember all off hand.

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I'm just guessing here, but do you think your neg attacks came about as a result of what you experienced in your dreams? I'm thinking along the lines that you may have really p*ssed someone / something off.


The negs I was speaking of in that posts were mainly inner demons there WERE repurcussions from my dream experiences though, and every once in a while another repurcussion will pop out of nowhere[Cool]

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From your dreams I'd say you were meant to be one who fights - a guardian yourself. Sound like you were also taught how and when to retreat - good for staying alive.

[:I] Most people don't catch that. [:I][:O]

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I understand a lot more of your perspective now.


One of the reasons I put it up, actually Wink not just you but for all who are in the arguments.

EDIT NOTE: truthfully I did not want to post this (my very long reply on page 2), however so far it has been fruitfull. Hopefully I don't have to go into any of the particular details though.
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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2004, 16:22:48 »

Hi Quartzcrystalsun, Please elaborate on Roberts advice on setting the shoes outdoors.  This is the first I've heard of this and would like to hear more.  Thank you[Smiley]
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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2004, 05:13:11 »

I'm the kind of sensitive person who is always trying to give to others and emit light. And, as many people here know, this type of person is really an entity magnet--an idiot with a big red target on his back. So periodically, perhaps every couple of weeks, I get tired of the subtle thoughts and desires which emanate from these pesky hitchhikers, and I lower the boom.

I start by raising Light up to my heart, brow and crown chakras and generally charging myself up with NEW-like activities. After about 10 minutes I've become a lot more clairvoyant and adroit in my ability to manipulate energy in and outside of my body. Then I concentrate on my heart chakra and the connection there to my I AM Presense, or Higher Self. I find that with intense adoration and attention on this Presence, I can attract a far greater than normal stream of life energy down the cord that connects me to this blazing Light. I pull and pull until my chest cavity is like a miniature sun of energy and I set my will or intent towards a continuing of this torrent of energy until the finish of what I do next.

At this point I'm pretty aware of whatever density or foreign entities which remain in or near me and I set the energy in my chest cavity to spinning along the axis of my body and I enlarge it to a diameter of about 6-10 feet. I also raise the frequency of the energy into whatever color and level of intensity I think will work the best--in this case I'm out to scare off or completely dissolve any entities/hitchhikers and also any lingering knots of pain or other emotional substance which is less than pure love and light within my aura. Then I just continue to intensify the rotational speed (which lends a kind of chopping/blending/atomizing action to things) and the intensity of light energy until I can plainly see and feel that there is nothing left in or near me which resists this light. One color I get a lot of mileage out of is a rose pink with an intense, blinding white core.

This is where I came up with my forum signature--I look like Johnny Storm, the Human Torch at this point in my meditation (any of you old geezers remember the Fantastic Four?)

This all takes about 20-40 minutes and at the end of it I find silence inside--no voices or thoughts which are not my own. Plus, I'm just walking on a cloud all day after that. I love everyone and everything's just ok. I've done this exercise fairly often for about 20 years.

I call it "weeding my garden".[Smiley]
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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2004, 07:43:08 »

Boydster, that's great info! Thanks.

The thing I like about this is it's a technique that anyone who has some experience with meditating or NEW can do.

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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2004, 10:56:15 »

That's really cool.[Cheesy]  I'll have to try that tech.[|)]
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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2004, 11:18:00 »

That was a neat idea boydster, tapping into your higher self and drawing power from it is an unbeatable technique [8D]
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2004, 12:09:13 »

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I'm the kind of sensitive person who is always trying to give to others and emit light. And, as many people here know, this type of person is really an entity magnet--an idiot with a big red target on his back. So periodically, perhaps every couple of weeks, I get tired of the subtle thoughts and desires which emanate from these pesky hitchhikers, and I lower the boom.


Know what you mean, if one gets steps out and gets involved with the dirt it rubs off Wink
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my I AM Presense, or Higher Self.


We think maintaining this is an important aspect of natural defence, the erosion of which opens the self to the more unpleasant types. The wearing down of the 'spirit' be it in a physical life context or non physical is a slippery slope to problems and needs to be restored when required as soon as possible.

What I don't think I have seen mentioned hereabouts is the use of contact, spiritual, therapeutic healing (choose your adjective) to assist those who are down on their resources or perhaps damaged. We regularly use it as part of clean ups and believe it to be effective. Any others with experience with healing in this context?
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2004, 06:02:21 »

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What I don't think I have seen mentioned hereabouts is the use of contact, spiritual, therapeutic healing (choose your adjective) to assist those who are down on their resources or perhaps damaged. We regularly use it as part of clean ups and believe it to be effective. Any others with experience with healing in this context?


I think I know what you're talking about, Mick. I have a number of talents which I've carried over from past lives and between lives. But what you describe is not something I'm schooled at.

BUT---I have watched many times while angels did what you are describing for myself or others who who have been spiritually "mugged and raped" or whose auras are just torn up by emotional upheavals, drug use, etc. Usually only in answer to prayer, angels come and repair torn up auras or chakras or other delicate details of a persons spiritual bodies. I have watched them smooth, dissolve, mend, rebuild, realign, cleanse and a host of other activities for those in need.

I have known some people in my life who have some knowledge of this stuff. My wife has what I call a "magical touch". She seems to sense troubled areas in or on a persons body and "fixes" things by stroking that area with her hands.

The part of the little exercise that I mentioned above which probably shouldn't be overlooked is that of using NEW for a kind of bootstrapping up to where one can access much higher quantities of a different and more intense energy. The energy which we partake of as prana, chi, or whatever you want to call it, is different from the Light Energy which comes directly from the Divine Monad or I AM Presense. I see them as a polarity, the light descending  from the Father (I AM Presence, the physical sun, etc.) being Masculine in polarity. The prana we take into us in many forms is like the return current or the Feminine polarity. Another, more potent form of this Feminine aspect is Kundalini.

Anyway, for serious spiritual work, like kicking out spooks or influencing crowds of people towards a more uplifting attitude, etc. I have to tap into the source from above, the I AM Presence. It forms something like a cross--the energy descends in a vertical axis into my heart chakra. Then, from there it goes out (horizontally) through my chakras to do spiritual work in the world of form. I think many of you have heard of this and probably seen one or more of the following pix:

http://www.prismgraphicdesign.com/presence.jpg

These are paintings made by or at the direction of spiritually gifted, clairvoyant people who could see far higher into planes above the astral, mental, etheric and even causal planes; and this, they say is what all of us look like, in a sense. Of course time and space are "not", when dealing with regions of such high vibratory rates, so these pictures are best looked at as metaphorical representations. Imagine yourself as the lower figure in each picture.

I find that when I gaze at them and try to feel the connection represented in these pictures, I tie into an enormous power which is the real and highest "ME". And after doing this for over two decades, I now have such a momentum that I can see and feel that blazing sun of Light Energy above me whenever I shift my spiritual gaze up. But I have to be the first to admit that it is through adoption and mastery of the Feminine aspect; NEW practices and Kundalini for intance, that this is made possible. So these are the first steps in this climb upward. That's not to say that anyone can't meditate on these pictures and begin building a stronger relationship with the Presence above though. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.

Have any of you folks ever seen these pix before?
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2004, 01:45:36 »

Hello Boydster,
I've seen those exact pics before in the books, "Studies of the Human Aura".  I even learned a decree in one of those books that I do while meditating.  I kept repeating that decree while being still in bed and all of a sudden I APed and had the force within myself of what felt like the whole Universe or a million suns.
I just exploded in a blaze of fiery light that was so intense it probably could have destroyed the earth as we know it if it was in the physical realm of reality and needless to say if there were any negs around they are no more[Cheesy]

I learned very rapidly that we all have the same power within ourselves and I more fully understood why we need discipline ourselves before unleashing this intense purity. Also, I was not aware how powerful certain decrees were until I tried them.

I still remember the decree.  Here it is.

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I AM light, glowing light,
Radiating light, intensified light.
God consumes my darkness,
Transmuting it into light.

This day I AM a focus of the central sun.
Flowing through me is a crystal river,
A living fountain of light
That can never be qualified by human thought or feeling.
I AM an outpost of the Divine.
Such darkness as has used me is swallowed up
By the mighty river of light which I AM!

I AM, I AM, I AM light.
I live, I live, I live in light.
I AM lights fullest dimension;
I AM lights purest intention.
I AM light light light
Flooding the world everywhere I move,
Blessing, strengthening and conveying
The purpose of the kingdom of Heaven!

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If any of you have negativity problems, please give this one a try.  As you keep repeating it in your mind over and over again your conviction whilst repeating it becomes stronger and stronger becasue the words have so much power within them and  you begin to realize quite quickly that the negs can not tolerate such intense purity as it unleashes. It spooks the hell out of them becasue as you keep repeating it, a sudden awareness arises within yourself that you have never been helpless, but instead you are this almighty soul that has endless bounds of energy.  I start out repeating it 3 times aloud, then I repeat it in my mind over and over again quite calmly and rapidly.  Don't worry if you forget some of the words whilst doing it.  It still seems to have the exact same effect.  And when you do it for a few days or weeks, I think you will be overwhelmed at what type of energy this raises.  The only thing I felt was important for me was that I remained completely still whilst doing it.  Also, I always did it at 3 am lying sideways in my bed and repeating it rapidly so I would conscioulsy remain awwake and explode into a AP such as never before.

I would love to hear from anyone of you who try it.  I shouldn't say "trust me"[Cheesy]..... but I will...... TRUST ME... this decree unleashes mass amounts of pure soul energy of the highest order.  Darkness can not bear the purity and intensity of the vibrations.  You will know what I mean.  But please don't say it with expectations. The secret is to repeat rapidly and clamly and let the vibrations raise naturally and do what they have to do.


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« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2004, 04:21:49 »

Hey taom1234,

I've read that book myself, and I've used that decree also--for about 20 years. It's very powerful.

It's never caused me to AP though. I'm just practicing my spiritual exercises and trying to help others. I want to learn to travel consciously outside my body. I figure that God will turn it on when He has a need for me to do it. Or something...

I'm having fun regardless.[Wink]

My favorite little recharge is the mantra:

I AM THAT I AM

which helps me realize my oneness with and reconnect to my higher self, the I AM Presence. I've said it in meditation so many thousands of times that when I do it now, my heart starts to burn and expand from the extra light energy I get. And my consciousness soars....

I'd say that this would be a great way to ward off psychic attacks too. If a person could hold in his mind the visualization in those pix that I linked to in my previous post, and say with deep conviction "I AM THAT I AM" over and over, I bet most spooks would flee in terror. They just can't stand this intensity of light. Of course it helps if you practice before you really need it in an emergency so that you have a momentum built up.
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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2004, 06:32:29 »

Hey Boydster
I noticed you have a Babaji pic too. Glad to see that[Smiley]

Yes, the decree and the reasoning when repeating it really turns on the lights.  The I AM THAT I AM is so powerful too.  I hope people can learn that simple things like this creates such a high intensity of light, that all darkness automatically flees in terror.

I have found a simple trick to AP.  You could try it for a test.  The trick really is just to have your mind remain awake and you automtically AP without trying.  Becasue we all AP every time we sleep, just not consciously.  If  you repeat your decree after you have slept for 5 hours.  Your mind will remain awake and you will AP.  I found this out by accident.

In other words, everyday, after you go to sleep, you can set your alarm for 5 hours later.  Then, turn sideways on your bed and lay still again with your eyes closed and repeat your decree.  Actually, I have notice that repeating anything including "row row row your boat gently down the stream" will work as you just need to keep your mind awake.  I feel repeating long decress is best becasue you need to think about it always and this keeps your mind awake whilst  your body falls asleep.  As soon as the body falls asleep, we automatically AP, but you need to keep still.

If you decide to try it, please let me know how it goes.  By the way, did you ever read the book "The Secret of the Golden FLower"
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« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2004, 03:57:25 »

Hello Everyone
   I think the most improtant way to avoid neg entrapment is to know your energy system and yourself. It will show you when anything unwanted does make it through to your energetic system.
   The next thing is to be sure you have cleansing rituals or ways to remove anything that is not of you. Herb, stones, and all of the rest of the suggestions are good ideas to prevent and cure neg problems.
   Robert's books and energy ways are also good. I really think the core image removal is brillant because negs do attach to all negative emotions. Repitition or chants of protective prayers and spells also help to remove things but the core image makes it so once it is gone the negs have nothing to attach too.
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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2004, 11:13:03 »

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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2004, 04:13:31 »

Hello all,

I'd like to bring the following quote from Edi's guide Perena forward into a new topic:

"It would be good to examine cases where people have been cured from psychic 'attacks', and what exactly the cure turned out to be. There needs to come a general understanding of how those things work, a general 'common sense' about it."

Ok, so far we've heard a lot about failure to help those under attack, so obviously there's something we need to be doing better.

What would help us all I believe would be if we could hear some first hand experiences from anyone who has been freed from neg attacks. I'd like to hear about the situation, the nature of the attack(s), and what technique or procedure worked in that situation.

I will be monitoring this topic closely. What I don't want to see in this topic is anyone arguing over what does and doesn't work. Such posts will be deleted, as the point is for us all to listen to what actually has worked for people, not theories or conjectures on what might work or why they won't work.

For this reason I would also ask people to keep it real. I don't want to hear tales of other peoples attacks that you might have heard about, and I don't want to hear exaggerations of the truth. We can't learn to help if we are being fed BS.

If we can better understand the circumstances in which an attack has been successfully ended, we should hopefully become more understanding of the needs of those going through attacks, and what it will take to see them through to being cured.

Kind regards,
James.
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