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« on: March 30, 2002, 18:08:48 »

p.s. sorry if this topic offends anyone - it isn't suppose to be raunchy.  I think that it is a topic of legitimate concern.

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2002, 19:11:57 »

Well I dunno how much energy masterbation takes out of you but I dont care, it feels good.

Arn't Incubi supposed to feed on babys energy or something and arn't sucubi supposed to be bad witches that drain you of energy.
Never really had any experience with them so cant help you.

 
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2002, 21:26:11 »

Hi Lily,

I realize this is a legitimate question because sexual problems of all sorts arise on account of the its huge influence on humans and the distortions that have occured because of ignorance and misuse.

I would highly recommend that you read John Baines' The Science of Love (available thru Amazon.com) which is the Hermetic viewpoint of what love really is and what love is not (according to the common misconceptions and distortions in the world today). It is a very involved subject and not for the faint-hearted.  It can be quite an eye-opener and makes you realize that you must take responsiblity not only for your actions but also your thoughts.

Basically, during masturbation magnetic energy is lost, whereas with a partner, magnetic energy is exchanged and renewed.   Apart from the loss of energy, there is also the question of the thought forms that are created while fantasising during masturbation.  These magnetic or energetic thought forms can come back to haunt you as the incubus and succubus that you mention which will attach themselves to you and influence you during your sleep to create erotic dreams to stimulate you to orgasm and discharge your magnetic energy so that they can feed.  Total abstinence from sex can also cause a build-up of energy that will attract these creatures if you do not have a partner to discharge these energies (strange way of saying "making love" huh?), so you will have to find a way of sublimating sex with creativity and action (painting/music  sports/exercise ot etc).

Please read Robert's online article about resisting the negative forces in your life to get a good idea about what to do to prevent attachment of any kind of "neg" that you may have attracted to you.  Naturally, you must control your thoughts and prevent yourself from indulging in any kind of sexual fantasy that may feed these thought forms you have created, so they will starve and be forced to leave.  

Again, I recommend that you order Baines' book, because education on the subject is the only real solution to prevention of these kinds of problems.

Julia

 
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2002, 21:49:15 »

I've recently been having a bunch of dreams in which I have lots of orgasms. These aren't otherwise sexual dreams though, in the dream, I'll just be running through the woods, orgasming away (for some reason that's really funny right now). My guess is that it's either a buid up of sexual energy, since I have a girlfriend that I don't get to spend much time with, or it could be the succubi. If it is them, I don't really feel the need to get rid of them. I've only had about 4 of these dreams, they felt good, and my health has only improved, of anything. Perhaps if they got more attached they would have a stronger detrimental affect (sexual addiction, poor health, etc..), but I don't see a problem with an occasional visit.  Ben
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2002, 22:56:01 »

"Everybody does it and if they say they don't, then they are lying".  This is something you have doubtlessly heard in your life at some point and it is false.  Obviously this is something that is usually more of an issue for men than women...

The bottom line is that there are those people who do not partake in this activity...they are usually people who try to avoid negativity in all it's forms (thoughts, actions, etc.)  I agree with Julia in regards to the total loss of energy (physical and emotional)- while on the other hand with a partner there is an exchange of sorts.

I also recommend reading Robert's article on the subject of avoiding negativity on the homepage.  

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2002, 03:36:54 »

Hi Lily
   Incubi and sucubi do not happen because of masturbation. Incubi normally attack women. Sucubi attack men. In the old legends they say that they can cause emotions and feelings so intense that it causes a lot of problems. The difference between thought forms and these negs are that the incubi and sucubi are constant after they attach. They never stop and it hurts the victim. I have heard it described as being continously raped and crawled upon. Every case I have dealt with has never been caused by the victim yet.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2002, 05:49:49 »

I'd have to say again, as I did when someone mentioned Tantra:
Sexuality release life energy--that energy's most likely intended to facilitate the creation of a new life--make sense?  The energy goes to the woman....still making sense?
Of course, in masturbation, it's simply lost---but it would be anyhow, if you had a partner.  If you're female, it increases your life-energy level, the moreso if you have a partner--but if you don't use that for anything, then it's simply going to dissipate over a relatively short period of time.  If a female masturbates--same thing, their energy level goes up, but not as much as if they had a partner.

However, that's life energy--the energy of the soul, as it were.  It's the very heavy, solid-seeming energy that some martial artists use.

Psi energy on the other hand--the energy that makes up the bulk of the aura--is lighter-seeming, and appears to be associated with nervous system activity.
So, if you listen to active music, get up and move around, have sex, masturbate, get mad, get really happy, etc etc.....
Your psi-energy levels will increase, regardless of your gender.

Keep in mind that people are designed to do these things--a guy's not going to lose so much life-energy from sex that he's incapacitated, unless he's REALLY overdoing it.  Yes, it takes something out of him, no matter if he has a partner or not.  But that's his stress, from being male.  For females, the stress comes in preganancy and child-rearing, and that may possibly take just as much or more out of a female than the cumulative amount a male loses from sex.  I suppose that depends on how many children a female has, if any.  However, females are built slightly tougher than males, when it comes to withstanding stress, pain, and demands on their body.

I do wonder if all of this may have something to do with why men generally have slightly shorter lifespans than women.

This also explains why many people after sex feel both tired and full of energy at the same time--one type of energy goes down, the other up.

Whether or not you're going to worry about any of this at all depends on what you're trying to do.

Certainly that energy could be channeled to some specific purpose.


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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2002, 02:24:42 »

G'day Folks!

First, for the record, I'd like to say that I did experiment with masturbation once in high school; but I didn't inhale!

Ahem....on a more serious note.....

This is a more complex matter than it might appear on the surface.  

Incubus and Sucubus are technically the same entity, although some may develop sexual preferences in their feeding habits. An incubus entity is technically demonic, but at the lowest end of the scale. In my experience they have more animalistic intelligence, but they are of course quite powerful in their way.

Some confusing is obvious regarding Negs and sexuality, because of the gross lack of accurate information regarding these matters. All Negs will at times use sex and/or fear to crack open and control victims.  So, telling an incubus from any other type of Neg is very difficult.  Some Negs can also be called sexual predators and deviants that delight in sexually tormenting people for its own sake.

I have seen a couple of Incubus entities firsthand, and had my description independently confirmed by others.  Incubus are actually quite beautiful and not scary in the slightest.  They look like a cellular organism, a bit like an ameoba.  If seen with astral sight, or clairvoyantly, while manifesting close to the physical dimension in real time, their true form looks to be about 18 inches to 3 feet long, oval, and they seem to be made of clear jelly. Inside they sparkle with hundreds of tiny multicoloured motes of light.  At one end is an internal structure that  looks a bit like a red daisy. This seems to be the rear end.  It pulses with a thick red glow when it moves.  Its movements are fast and jerky, much like other astral wildlife when observed with astral sight.

Incubus type entities usually attack quickly and strongly, and their victims are usually but not always asleep.  Their method of attack seems to depend on the experience of the incubus, and on the weaknesses of the victim.  Sometimes they will attack while a person is asleep, sometimes when they are awake but relaxed.  With the first type of attack, incubus latch onto the genital energy centre directly and cause a powerful forced type of orgasm very quickly.  The second type of attack involves telepathically, hypnotically broadcast sexual dreams and illusions, plus genital centre stimulation.  If a person is awake, or wakes up during the attack, the incubus will often create the illusion of a beautiful human body on top of the victim, carrying out various sexual acts.  The end result is always the same, a far more intense orgasm than the victim would normally have.  This is due to the direct genital chakra stimulation.

It seems to me that the more powerful and experienced an incubus is, the less stealty and illusion they depend upon.  A powerful incubus will just fly into a person's room, latch onto his/her genital centre and force them to have an intense orgasm, often in seconds. It will then fly away and will often not return.  

Some incubus, the more powerful versions, are like free roaming opportunistic sexual predators, taking what they need when they feel like it.  But some will form attachments and even 'relationships' with humans. I have experienced a number of incubus attacks myself over the years, and consulted with many people who have experienced the same.  I also once had the opportunity to observe an incubus attack on a woman.  

Most incubus attacks involve some degree of physical paralysis, even full waking paralysis, being caused, especially if the victim awakes during the attack.

The basic symptoms of an incubus attack vary a bit, and are different for male and female victims, but are much like astral sex. For females, they generally involve an intense, sudden and deep penetration of the whole genital area, up into the stomach.  For males especially, an intense, deep sucking sensation is often felt. But the above types of attack can be experienced by either sex.  Either type results in sudden, urgent need for sexual release. This usually happens quicker with female victims.  Efforts to fight this will usually result in various levels of paralysis.  This type of paralysis feels like all the energy has been sucked from your body and you don't have the energy to move, and your body feels very heavy and weak.  During most incubus attacks, male and female victims will also feel a heavy weight on their chests, as if a heavy person were sitting on them, and they will have difficulty breathing.

It takes a great deal of strength to break such an attack.  But the same basic technique of concentrating on moving a single big toe, as with breaking normal waking paralysis, is the best way to break it.

Some people will form relationships with incubus and become addicted to them.  When this happens, they actually call the incubus to them whenever they want sex.  Incubus caused orgasm is more powerful than the normal human version, so its understandable how addiction occurs.
With a relationship, the incubus will usually create a very solid form indeed, often with a beautiful face that can be seen. In this case, the willing victim will often be fully awake during encounters.

The above is quite common and has been known about for many hundreds of years.  Such incubus are often called 'Demon Lovers'.  I have known a number of people to have such relationships.

Although I have never seen this result in death, it is said that incubus addiction can cause illness and eventually death.  Most people I have known with this kind of 'relationship' problem have had severe health problems that seem to come with it, and these get progressively worse if the relationship continues.

I have known men and women in their 70's and even their 80's to experience full blown incubus attacks.

As you can see, this is not a simple matter.  And it must be kept in mind that most Negs will use sex against victims at some time or other, so its very hard to tell 'which' entity is involved in cases of Neg influence and attack.  

However, as Nita suggests, it is quite likely that incubus type entities are involved with magical/psychic attacks, as incubus are technically demonic and thus can be bound and sent to attack people, just like most demons.

In my experience, masturbation and the fantasies involved do not involve incubus type entities.  True incubus entities are not that subtle and generally take what they want directly. They have no need to coerce their victims to masturbate and fantasise. This last is usually related to the Neg attachment and conditioning process. In this case, often starting in early childhood, fantasies (often involving core images) are telepathically and hypnotically implanted.  I have known 5yo children from good homes to have adult sexual fantasies, with there being no exposure to pornography or adult sexuality. These core image fantasies are then Neg reinforced in puberty when children discover masturbation.  Negs reinforce their implanted fantasies by providing intense, direct genital centre stimulation when these are entertained. They discourage all other more natural fantasies by broadcasting depressing feelings and anxiety, etc.  Its not hard to work out what happens in the long term.  

The above involves simple reward and punishment, which as we all know is a very effective psychological conditioning device. As you might imagine, this type of conditioning can have more than a little to do with the development a person's sexual preferences later in life, and even with a person's sexual orientation.


Food for thought, aye......


Take care, Robert.

ps, all the above is dealt with more thoroughly and clearly in PPSD.





 
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2002, 03:25:07 »

Hi Robert
   You really have a way with words and put it so much better than I did in describing what happens. I have noticed that there is always a pattern with the incubus or sucubus where they are sent by another person. It doesn't mean they are trying to curse someone. I have noticed that when a person is being lusted after or has rejected someone that they exist almost as a thought form at first and then grow stronger and stronger.
   A lot of times it happens with a relationship ending or any other matter where a partner focus's on the other one exclusively. A certain amount of wanting them to be humiliated or other patterns of thought are involved in this. The thoughts are almost visible involving rejection, anger or other negative emotions. It seems to draw these creatures where they make it happen to the other person.
   I have met a couple of people with demon lovers as they are called that enjoyed them. It seemed a different mental setup than the normal incubus or sucubus interaction because it wasn't painful to the victim.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2002, 05:46:22 »

Robert, is there any way I may have some portion of that for my Parazoology web site?   Complete and accurate descriptions of spirit entities (you even had the actual "appearance", which so few do!) is very hard to come by.
The site is meant to be an ongoing listing of spirits with an attempt at classifying them.  I'd hoped that it will be easier for people to pass on information on what things are and how to deal with them if there was some sort of central reference.
It'll be impossible to get everything, but just keeping the idea going I think will be valuable in the long run.
My primary problem so far has been that I'm not really clairvoyant.  I can give some approximations of an entity's actual appearance, but not its typical projected appearance in most cases.
You have a very highly detailed and complete description of a specific "species" of entity--I'd love to add it to the database, however small it may be currently.  Full credit given of course, if you'd allow me to do that.

(The url is http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wingedwolf/Parazoology/index.html
Keep in mind, though, that I lost a huge number of graphics in a server crash, and haven't yet managed to re-create them all, or get the site completely straightened out--I'm working on it all, slowly.  I have had to do this with all my sites, and I put the Guild site at top priority, with my home page second).


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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2002, 03:11:28 »

G'day Winged Wolf!

Yes, please feel free to quote this on your site.

Please use the new domain of www.astralpulse.com in the reference.  If you want a book reference, use "Bruce, Robert, Practical Psychic Self-Defense, Hampton Roads, VA, 2002"

I'll also send you a pic of the incubus entity, that an artist, Paul Carrick, did for me.  If you use the pic, please make sure you include Paul's name under it.

I should learn how to sketch, re I've seen lots and lots of entities over the years, including angels and demons, deities and masters and etc.


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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2002, 07:11:40 »

Enormous thanks for that!  And the picture is absolutely gorgeous, too.  Smiley

I do have a question, though I'm not sure whether you'll be able to answer it or not.  I've been trying to classify entities partially by energy types as well as behavior.  If you would happen to know what energy type or types this particularly entity is comprised of, it'd be a big help.
Identified types are:  Psi (the bulk of the human aura, an EM-like energy that seems associated with nervous system activity, fairly "light" and volatile.)
Life ("soul-stuff"...often used by martial artists, a very heavy, dense, and extremely stable energy type).
Faith (a normally short-lived energy that seems to be generated in the brain, associated with probability alteration, somewhat EM-related).
Veil (Stuff from "elsewhere"...oily, persistant, and highly mutagenic)
Collective Unconscious (broken down psi and faith energy-- becomes this when it's sitting around)
Quantum (three types, but they're hard to distinguish.  Used mainly by ceremonial magickians)
Earth (energy from the planet's field, ley lines, etc).

Angels, demons, and fae are usually comprised of a Life/Faith mix, for example.
If you're not sure, no problem--I realize that few people make these distinctions, or ever thought to pay attention to them.  An entity's behavior is usually a lot more important than what it's made of or where it came from.


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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2002, 01:50:32 »

Thanks everyone for your input!  I am now certain that I have had a visit or two in the past.  I never had paralysis but I definatly felt penetration...thats when I knew that I wasn't alone.  Yikes...sn incubi - not exactly what I am looking for in a partner!  Happy travels!

 
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2002, 22:44:49 »

I can also recall having a similar experience. It was almost like being suffocated( not breath but you'll know what I mean ), when trying to get rid of the darn thing.

 
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2002, 05:06:54 »

My understanding of masturbation/sex is as follows. Sexual activity, whether with a partner or alone, causes the body to make chemicals and raise energy, particularly in the sub-navel and root chakras. This energy/chemical holistic state is said to be one of the most powerful healing resources known to humans, and Tantra says that this state prolonged enough brings higher levels of consciousness. In males, ejaculation shuts the chemical state down and purges the energy. In females, simply enough orgasms will cause this shutdown. When a male and female partner represent the Yin and the Yang in the sexual activity, the following is said to happen: higher levels of consciousness and energy can be attained than when alone, and this purging of energy becomes an exchange between the partners. When alone, Tantra and Dianism still work, but not as effectively as when done with a partner of the opposite sex.

Tantra has been practiced for thousands of years, and many Tantrics think the benefits are worth a lifetime of effort. There is plenty of information available online and in books.

I don't know how this relates to astral wildlife, as I mostly focus on the physical plane where I currently reside, I meaning the human named Andy. For now I'll lead a life on this plane which incorporates PPSD (when I get the book) and let my higher self be concerned with the other planes. Of course, when I succeed in a conscious exit projection, that will change and I will of course have to be concerned with Astral matters. I'd be interested to hear what Roberts thoughts on Tantra/Dianism are, if any.

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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2004, 18:43:53 »

In the natural world nothing goes to waste. You have jackals, flies, vultures, bacteria, etc. If energy is being released, I wouldn't be surprised there are just as many or more creatures in the astral willing to scavange.

Succubi sound more predatory.

Overall, I have misgivings about the general mindset that masturbation is a negative act. I doubt this is true. All great apes do it. That's not exactly an excuse to offer when you get caught as a kid (I guess it depends on your parents), but it is something to think about.

As long as there has been history, it seems there have been those to prey upon sex, twisting and subverting it to empower themselves, or at least sound empowered. I for one don't give much credence to those who would say masturbation is shaking the devil's hand, or something along those lines.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2004, 15:06:44 »

I'll offer my own experiences for the group, despite the embarrassing facts because others might benefit. I've been addicted to pornography in the past, primarily via internet, but tapes/mags as well. From my experiences (and this was years back, i've since learned from my mistakes) it starts simple enough when real world physical closeness is lacking, and the visual, visceral lure of ANY sexual fantasy is readily available. The images/fantasies HOOK into the male mind much deeper and insatiably than the female mind (must be our hardwiring for spreading the seed) and the addiction takes root. From there, one finds himself thinking about sex constantly, and sexual arousal is very easy, repeatable, and unavoidable, even when one WANTS to avoid it. Female faces, genitalia, sounds, etc, become a fascination, and the proliferation of the internet allows the thoughtforms of pretty much everyone on the planet to project to a central source. This is extremely gratifying at first because it allows for fantasy fulfillment that the majority of society will never actually experience, particularly shy, withdrawn individuals who are not comfortable with the opposite (or even the same) sex. If one has ever cruised a porn site, the options are STAGGERING, i mean, really offensive in the number of sexual options for every orifice, race, color, breast size, toys, animal, etc. In fact, the amount of sexual options is so large that people who are THE MOST addicted find themselves locked to the computer, unable to tear themselves away from the influx of images.

This is addiction not unlike the craving provided by drugs/alcohol, and the two are often there at the same time. If there were a way to measure the amount of men and boys jacking off to the internet while drunk or stoned, you would be flabbergasted (and disgusted probably).

Negs weave themselves among this global abuse/misuse of sex. I truly believe that the hive mind of human sexual reality and thought projection has been inundated with energy-draining demons. I've not seen them, but i've felt them, and they lure men in (mostly men) and keep them on a short chain of mental, physical and spiritual addiction. Well, mental and physical anyway, and the SPIRIT suffers greatly, believe me.

The internet has many wonderful aspects in that it has brought the greatest insitutions of Earthly creativity, science, metaphysics and human resources into a medium that can be shared. On the downside, every human affliction, weakness, fear, pain, and inner demon is in the same place, only a few clicks away.

I am greatful for my experiences in the years since given my time to reflect and learn from the past. It was a hellacious period, and i am offering this to others who i know are going through the same problems. Even worse, i was an adult at the time, and i can imagine the number of young, adolescent boys who are just beginning their addictions. Sometimes the only way to learn is through the cathartic process of experience. One must know the Lows before one can know the Heights.

You must know the Absence of God before one can appreciate the Oneness.

Just my take.

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2004, 16:05:35 »

Sex is what you make of it. Moderation with wine, moderation with food, moderation with sex.
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2004, 17:06:03 »

Yup. Moderation in all things. That little quip has more applications to life than most people realize. Hell, i'm pretty sure jerking off in moderation is okay, so long as you're not trying to store up energy for later use.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2004, 18:15:51 »

I do believe that regular masterbation is definately a wasteful activity...but isn't it also 'necessary' to be done (if not in a sexual relationship with another)?

Like when someone doesn't release sexual energies for weeks, the build-up becomes very apparent and sometimes tense. Dreams are filled with erotica and in the morning it is one of the main things on the (male) mind. I'm speaking of 20-year old male archetype.

So should it still be done, for health, or should it be ignored altogether? The recommendations on this subject have been of mixed-responses, contrary to each other at times.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2004, 05:20:19 »

You heard right runlola.

Arousal through just thinking about an erotic-situation, looking at a picture, watching a video. It's triggered pretty easily.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2004, 11:22:25 »

It is a very complex subject. Sexuality is a god-given gift to be enjoyed in moderation, like good food or exercise. I don't know what is WRONG persay about masturbation, if anything. Men are very visual and easily project images through the third eye to stimulate themselves. Most have to do this to achieve even minimal excitement, but a casual glance from a stranger can trigger it too.

 
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It seems the thought-forms you create while masturbating is the real issue. Thoughts are powerful & during such intense sexual energy, I would think even more powerful. You may be affecting someone or creating some porn in the astral that feeds the collective sexshop. Depending on your visualizations you could make a fetish even more powerful? Or attract a deviant spirit that feeds more of those thoughts in your head at the wrong times? Can you make your sexual fantasies pure of thought? I heard guys are very visual & have to think about something or look at something during the "exercise"


This is where it gets tricky. Yes, i think fantasizing creates energy, and this energy in turn is sent out into the void where it resides on the astral, just like everything else. Sexual energy and thoughts are very potent, and large concentations tend to attract etheric beings that feed on them. The L.A. porn scene, for example, is filled with sexual addicts who are used and discarded by a machine-like system. The sex there is mechanical itself, and is accentuated, or even numbed, by heavy drug use (which allows stronger negs to reside).

I wouldn't worry about attracting deviant spirits unless one overindulged in sexual fantasy to the point that it became unbalancing. Gluttonous eating would be just as bad. Ceaseless gossip would be bad too in another aspect.

There is obviously a lot i don't know about it, although i have the pieces to the puzzle in front of me.

I was reading recently, i forgot where, that one theory about the craziness that often plagues superstars is due in part to the global fixation on them. Imagine MILLIONS of men and women focusing, fantasizing, and masturbating to the image of a single person. That's a lot of energy pumped to one place, to one person, and i'm sure it can have detrimental effects. American society is geared to make people more "important" than others, and it has strange results in their psyches sometimes, i'm sure of it.

Lastly, as Blackbox just referred to, NOT masturbating for a long time results in a build of unreleased energy. Undesired celibacy is not good thing i don't think. If nothing else, not knowing how your body works or keeping it "tuned up" can result in the "use it or lose it" syndrome.
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2004, 16:08:57 »

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It is a very complex subject. Sexuality is a god-given gift to be enjoyed in moderation,  


And there was me thinking it was all about ensuring genetic diversity, asexual reproduction having produced too many runts in the litter Smiley
Of course Creationists may hold a different view and I do keep this door slightly ajar just in case the Universe was created 10 minutes ago [Shocked)]

Now if you want to discuss gifts, one that would get a high ranking from me is the function of defecation, I suspect that having to regurgitate would be a somewhat odious experience Smiley

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This is where it gets tricky. Yes, i think fantasizing creates energy, and this energy in turn is sent out into the void where it resides on the astral, just like everything else. Sexual energy and thoughts are very potent, and large concentations tend to attract etheric beings that feed on them. The L.A. porn scene, for example, is filled with sexual addicts who are used and discarded by a machine-like system. The sex there is mechanical itself, and is accentuated, or even numbed, by heavy drug use (which allows stronger negs to reside).

Crowley made an interesting comment, paraphased 'every act is a magical act'. I too think that we need to be aware that our thoughts and actions can have a greater than expected result.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2004, 20:29:48 »

Hmmm... I had my first (and last I hope) incubus experience last night.

But I think it 'checked me out' a couple of weeks back - I was staying at a friend's house and I had drunk alcohol for the first time in ages, both probably contributing factors?
Anyway, that morning I woke up to the sensation of being kissed...
(I was in bed alone.)
This was actually very pleasant but I was a bit wary of it and kind of mentally withdrew from it and I heard a woman's voice say 'Don't stop!' but I pulled away and then felt an energetic sensation going for my head, which triggered a kind of instinctive reaction for me to focus attention there and push it away if you get what I mean.
Then I woke up fully.
I thought about this for some days afterwards, thinking I wouldn't mind if that happened again...  but it did occur to me that this might be some form of neg.

Anyway a couple of weeks passed and last night I had a very peculiar dream...  I don't remember it all, but I think I was examining a number of strange objects.  One of them was a weird looking doll, but as I examined it, I noticed the skin was real as I touched it, then the doll's beady little eyes sprang to life, they were quite malevolent and the dolls arms got larger and spread out as if to wrap around me.  The next thing I remember was the sound of a woman groaning etc. as if she was having sex and then I woke up in sleep paralysis.

Anyway there was this black shape on top of me.  It looked like it had big horns, but that may have been a shadow on the ceiling above it's head.  I could feel slight pressure on my chest, and this (very male) voice said 'You have given me your soul.'
To which I replied 'No I ****ing haven't **** off you ****.'
Undeterred by this, the shape leant forward towards me, and I could see what looked like white vapour coming from my throat area towards it's head for a couple of seconds.  Then it disappeared as I broke the SP.

Between the first and the second experience I read PSD, and I seem to remember something about how examining objects in dreams or projections can trigger things like this.  But I didn't get the arousal that seem to be the hallmark of these things.  Trust my luck to get an incubus that's crap in bed. [Cheesy]

I've had sleep paralysis so often now, that I was able to keep my composure through this.  But if this happened to someone out of the blue I can see it would be absolutely terrifying.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2004, 23:31:19 »

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 Trust my luck to get an incubus that's crap in bed. [Cheesy]


LOL! Thanks for the chuckle.
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