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« on: June 08, 2011, 04:55:17 »

electricFlux = sum_weighted_by_fourier_transform_over_short_time(multiplyAll(1 + dotProduct(momentum(particle),vector)/squareRoot(n))/e, for i from 1 to n)

I've thought of a way to partially quantum-observe (get some info but not all) a superpositioned particle/wave without collapsing the wavefunction.

Put a ring of particles nearly at rest around a double-slit experiment. Call those particles p[1] to p[n]. There are n particles in the ring. They are all far enough away from the experiment not to disturb it enough to collapse the wavefunction. Because of that, no 1 particle p can be used to determine which slit the particle/wave went through. Each of n particles is subject to heisenberg uncertainty, so they can only be used statistically.

Choose 2 points, 1 near each slit, to do calculations for. Also do calculations for both, and for neither. 4 total possibilities, and a bell curve of variations of each, but it doesn't have to be exact, so answering 1 of 4, and still getting the wave interference pattern on the back wall, will be enough progress.

Forces move at the speed of light in a geodesic (as straight a path as possible in spacetime). That means such forces outrun any particle-to-particle interactions except relatively rare interactions like entanglement. My theory depends on the electric force between the ring of particles and the particle going through the double slit, so lets say they are all electrons this time.

For each point in spacetime to be measured (around the slits), calculate the approximate distance to each of the n particles in the ring. Calculate this in advance, and prepare to measure it normalized by that so information arrives at each particle in the ring approximately the time its being measured. If the area to be measured is closer to particle z, then measure z earlier than the other particles in the ring, for example, but keep them all approximately the same distance from the double-slit experiment.

Remember that, by definition, I am keeping the ring of particles far enough away from the double slit experiment that it does not disturb the wave pattern on the back wall. The main question is does my equation, which I will describe below, allow me to calculate which slit(s) the electron probably went through? Based on my theory explained here http://spacecollective.org/BenRayfield/6889/Multiverse-Branch-Is-Particle-Antiparticle-Split I expect the following calculation will work, partially observe without collapsing the wavefunction.

electricFlux = sum_weighted_by_fourier_transform_over_short_time(multiplyAll(1 + dotProduct(momentum(particle),vector)/squareRoot(n))/e, for i from 1 to n)

The "vector" is from particle to the area to be measured, near the slits, and is normalized to 1, so dotProduct(momentum(particle),vector) is a bell curve of average 0 and standard deviation 1. The squareRoot(n) is because if you sum n random numbers which are each -1 or 1 then you will get a standard deviation of squareRoot(n). These calculations are my best estimation of what I'm thinking in terms of many dimensional geometry, but I know its close to the right answer.

Because each next particle multiplies the previous calculation (without that particle), a consistent force on the ring of particles will score exponentially higher than a random force. That's why I call this an Exponential Telescope.

This can also be done with grids of radio telescopes, given recordings of all the signals they receive over time at very small granularity. Instead of using only the signals they are pointing straight at, holographically (along some angle between space and ring-measurement-time holographically) this would use many variations of those directions and different distances, for a 3d view instead of 0 dimensional point view as its normally done.

Similarly, if this was reversed, using omnidirectional radio transmitters instead of particles, and fluorescent light gasses close to such transmissions, this would tend to form, statistically a small amount, into a 3d holographic volume of whatever the Exponential Telescope (the opposite direction of information flow) measured.

Because it could be used as a holographic projector, it would be useful as a replacement for EEG and MRI machines, seeing into brains without sending any radiation in, just by the holographic use of electric fields. It could also put info into your brain through the opposite machine, or both machines in one. This could be how telepathy works, since neurons operate in a chaos theory way too, but I tend to think "law of attraction" and Chris Langan's "telic feedback" are better explanations for telepathy. Either way, this is how to build a machine that can do telepathy the same way a 2-way EEG machine could, but more advanced.

My question is not if it would work. My question is how well would it work.

My other question is how well it scales up to bigger distances and more particles in the ring. If we want to use this as a holographic 3d electricity camera to record approximate 3d videos of electricity movement in the center of the sun, what statistical range would you expect my electricFlux variable to have relative to complete randomness?

I think electricFlux oscillates with a standard deviation of 1 and average of 0 when the target is random, and should change a little from that (along some angle between space and ring-measurement-time holographically) when the target has an electricFlux. Each distance from particle to target is known so the time in lightseconds can be calculated and used as seconds of delay to measure.

I maybe could have patented this, or some future work I would do on it in secret, but I think patents are a dumb system that holds science and progress back. I'd rather get ideas out there where mad-scientists can work on them.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 11:26:29 »

My theory depends on the electric force between the ring of particles and the particle going through the double slit, so lets say they are all electrons this time.


I think that each time there is electric force interaction between a single moving electron, and anything else, the single electron exchanges a photon. That breaks the wave function and defines the electron's position in space.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 02:40:06 »

That does not apply to the experiments I'm describing. Part of their setup is to position the ring of particles far enough away from the double-slit parts that the wave pattern is not disturbed. If you say the wave pattern is disturbed enough to collapse the wavefunction, you are talking about some other experiment.

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Remember that, by definition, I am keeping the ring of particles far enough away from the double slit experiment that it does not disturb the wave pattern on the back wall. The main question is does my equation, which I will describe below, allow me to calculate which slit(s) the electron probably went through?

Instead, the plan is for an exponential number of variations of the photon to interact with an exponential number of variations of the ring of particles, which is calculated symmetricly because of the way everything is multiplied together.

If you want to argue against my theory, your only option is to explain why my equation will not detect anything useful.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 11:50:05 »

If you want to argue against my theory, your only option is to explain why my equation will not detect anything useful.


I think an experiment would be more useful as theories may not portray the reality exactly.

And you still depend on electrical force between your electron and those particles in a ring. The distance doesn't matter. If there are electrical forces measurable there will be a photon exchange.

I think of the wave function as a cloud. That cloud consists from the start of one electron only. As the electron moves forward it emits a photon which stays close to the electron. The cloud now consists of an electron and a photon. The farther the electron moves, the more energy is transferred to the photon, and the bigger the cloud/wavefunction becomes in volume as the photon swirls around together with the electron in bigger and bigger orbits.

Then you make some kind of electric force apply to the cloud, and no matter how little that electric force is...

The photon then moves out of the cloud, shrinking the cloud to one electron only which is said to "collapse" the cloud/wavefunction and precisely defining the position of the electron at the same time.

I don't think this is a strictly scientific view, but I think it's important to know that any electric force releases a photon from the electron, removing the interference pattern.

Maybe someone else knows more and have a better model explaining this?
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 04:35:11 »

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If there are electrical forces measurable there will be a photon exchange.

only if quantum physics happens in discrete units (quanta).

Nonexistence is isomorphic to the set of all self-consistent possibilities. The universe is simultaneously everything and nothing, which are 2 sides of the same mobius (or klein bottle in more dimensions, or any dimensional view of it), therefore I do not believe the discrete appearance of quantum physics. Black holes appear to have a clean discrete boundary at their event-horizon which divides the point of no return, but instead there is turbulence and hawking radiation and if you fell into a black hole you would be time-dilated and spread as hawking radiation when the black hole eventually evaporated, never actually falling in.

These links together explain in general how particles can be modeled as quantum superpositioned black holes, but they don't say it exactly that way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_mass
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_electron

If particles are superpositioned black holes, things can happen in an analog way while appearing digital, similar to how everything eventually becomes heat-death and heat-death is event-horizon so everything appears to have that digital end and the digital start of the big bang, but we are still very analog.
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