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« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2011, 13:31:02 »

No, you don't need to give up sex. Sex, in its purest form is an expression of love and a means of bonding closely with your partner, thus the term "making love". It is a good thing. If your only motivation for sex, however, is personal gratification then you might have cause to reconsider the basis of your relationship and bring more affection and tenderness into it. Mutual gratification, though, can also be a force for bonding, so don't decry that out of hand either.

In essence, you can choose to forsake reincarnation once you pass onwards from the Astral to higher spirit realms. Reincarnation is a personal choice and one made with a slew of helpers and advisors. We are here to experience and to progress in spirit.
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« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2011, 14:16:28 »

Intent.
It's all about Intent. 
In *EVERYTHING* you do.

Intent is also not an intellectual choice... it's a "being" choice.
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« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2011, 14:18:23 »

No, you don't need to give up sex. Sex, in its purest form is an expression of love and a means of bonding closely with your partner, thus the term "making love". It is a good thing. If your only motivation for sex, however, is personal gratification then you might have cause to reconsider the basis of your relationship and bring more affection and tenderness into it. Mutual gratification, though, can also be a force for bonding, so don't decry that out of hand either
I agree 100% with this  grin
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2011, 16:27:19 »

It's about where your choice to do something originates from... animalistic/lower desires, or true intent through human thinking. It's common for people to make decisions based strictly on urges with no true intent involved. There's no freedom in that way of living.
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« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2011, 20:30:15 »

I think.. to stop reincarnation, you need to raise your consciousness.. IN THE PHYSICAL.. so that when you die, you will remember all the thoughts you had as a human.
Basically? Meditate on finding your higher self.. and trying to raise your vibrations.. keep on raising them more and more, until you are.. basically what would be called Jesus like. Then you will have control over your reincarnation
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« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2011, 23:30:31 »

I think.. to stop reincarnation, you need to raise your consciousness.. IN THE PHYSICAL.. so that when you die, you will remember all the thoughts you had as a human.
Basically? Meditate on finding your higher self.. and trying to raise your vibrations.. keep on raising them more and more, until you are.. basically what would be called Jesus like. Then you will have control over your reincarnation
Or may decide you'd rather do something else- like the Tibetans believe.  I like this idea a lot.
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« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2011, 06:35:27 »

Or may decide you'd rather do something else- like the Tibetans believe.  I like this idea a lot.
what did the Tibetans believe? o.0;
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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2011, 15:26:43 »

In their belief, the afterlife is self-created, and knowing this goes a long way to making a decision as to what you are going to do next.  In fact, Tibetans pray to the recently dead to remind them of this as they move on.
You usually go into a stage of resolution of the life you just came out of, and this takes on various forms- the idea is that if you can maintain the awareness of what's really going on, at the point in which you are ready, you can choose how to incarnate, or you can choose to stay in the spiritual realm (for want of a better term) and help others when they transition.  So you can stay in the Bardo until  you decide you want to evolve into some other type of being or reincarnate for whatever reason.
Of course, this is very simplified, the Tibetan Book of the Dead describes it much more thoroughly, with religious figures, etc.- many books have been written about this.  My favorite is The Unanswered Question- but I digress.
Someone once wrote a comic book that kind of described it simply- it was kind of funny but a nice diagram on what they believe.  Who doesn't like comics?
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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2011, 15:34:39 »

I did a quick web search and it looks like the comic book has been taken down.  Too bad, I had a copy of about five pages, but I don't know where it is.
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« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2011, 06:04:18 »

Buddhism or Kriaya Yoga...have you read Autobiography of a yogi..Paramahansa Yoginada?
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« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2011, 19:07:50 »

My experiences confirm what Buddhist themselves say they see in their NDEs. They have visions of hell, Yamatoots taking them to judgement, fire... so I don't think Buddhism is saving these souls. Though they have good teachings, they don't know the truth about this cosmos and the powers that rule it, so they haven't been able to escape them.
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« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2011, 05:41:12 »

My experiences confirm what Buddhist themselves say they see in their NDEs. They have visions of hell, Yamatoots taking them to judgement, fire... so I don't think Buddhism is saving these souls. Though they have good teachings, they don't know the truth about this cosmos and the powers that rule it, so they haven't been able to escape them.

Buddhists seek freedom from the illusion of form...form is where we find hell etc...form of thought, physical form and so on...its the same goal but via different path that the yogis use..instead of  just having faith or believe in this idea or that idea as most religions ask us to do...they say come and experience...see for your self and seek untiringly union with god...or in another words "self realisation"

Yogis measure their spiritual progress through their gifts of the spirit "sidhis" http://www.theholisticcare.com/Kundalini%20Yoga/Power%20Of%20Yogi%20Major%20Siddhis%20Minor%20Instructions%20On%20Siddhis.htm
such as clairvoyance, clairaudiance, as the very basics and so on...not to show off or impress people but so they don't deceive themselves and just add spiritual growth as a favorite fantasy of the ego.

The yogis understand the spiritual science of moving the kundalini, which according to their thousands of years of study takes one year to travel naturally around the spiritual circuit in a human being... the yogis know how to move this power several circuits a day...meaning they can gain thousands of years of spiritual growth in any life time....and so the answer is yes, you can enlighten your self in one life time and escape reincarnation...takes some serious hard work and devotion...not to mention the rarest form of unrest and yearning...that is as valuable and precocious a gift that can be bestowed upon any man/woman Unrest of the soul, so much so that knowing god at the deepest level is the strongest desire ..only then will you have a chance
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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2011, 18:25:57 »

Interesting theory I heard the other day regarding reincarnation and child abuse. Most people find sexually abusing a child reprehensible (and rightly so), but almost always that child who's being sexually abused was a child abuser him or herself in their previous lifetime.

They have to reincarnate as the victim so they can experience firsthand what its like to be abused. This is part of the personal karma they have to work out.

I dont know if this is true, but it sure sounds interesting.
And if it's true you shouldnt feel sorry for them, because its something they have brought on themselves
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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2011, 23:23:35 »

Interesting theory I heard the other day regarding reincarnation and child abuse. Most people find sexually abusing a child reprehensible (and rightly so), but almost always that child who's being sexually abused was a child abuser him or herself in their previous lifetime.

I was reading Plato or Sophocles or maybe both about 6 months ago and it was something to see the discussion of this topic in such a matter-of-fact manner as though it were not just commonplace but socially accepted.

One comment was along the lines of, "the highest form of love is love between two men because that is love between two equals..." (women were considered near sub-human or even soul-less and children were subordinate).

In the end I think it is not a matter of feeling 'sorry' for anyone. The Masters teach that COMPASSION for all parties is the enlightened approach in these situations.
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2011, 00:06:07 »

So do you love men and think women are evil?  wink


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