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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2004, 16:56:54 »

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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2004, 21:09:27 »

Dear S

No real association with the Bardic (Bhairdic or Bairdic) Tradition also known as the Qabala or Verbal Tradition going back into great antiquitty - other than the fact that I am a Baird - genetically. And yes, there is genetic information transfer IMO. It is my opinion that no Druids or Bairds of that system are alive today - although the Kahuna and some Brujos might be close in some respects. The Bairds were the teachers and historians who kept the books like the Tsaltair na Tara which might be what Strabo refers to as a 7000 year written history of the people of Tartessus/Iberia. These books were destroyed so the Catholics could empower themselves as originators.

I will go get the quote from Aquinas on Aristotle and Augustinian things from Bobik.



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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2004, 21:18:40 »

I am still going to get the Bobik quote but this is actually more on point.

                        AUGSBURG and the Reformation:
     We should all know that Nostradamus was a Jesuit and he was most supported by the De Medicis. I am almost certain he was a member of the Alumbrados or Illuminati who founded the Jesuits along with the Borgia (Pope Alexander VI) money to institute the Aquinas legacy we have already covered as their universities became the cornerstone of educating people to a New World Order. David Ovason writes about Nostradamus being a Hibernian and I think his scholarship is the only reasonable work done on the man who probably was adept enough to have made a Philosopher’s Stone. Nostradamus was a Jew and so are the Milesian Stuarts or Bruttii whose history I have documented in books like Who is a Jew. Ovason’s book is The Secrets of Nostradamus and he details an important part of one quatrain dealing with Augsburg. Here is why Augsburg is important according to history and Pelikan from the Rockefeller-Bush institute called Yale.
     “In their explanation of how there could be a just war in the light of the unqualified way Jesus had condemned violence and the unequivocal way he had exalted peace, Reformers such as Luther repeated much of the medieval doctrine of Augustine and Aquinas, while adding their own perspectives on the ethical and political meaning of the Gospels. There was, however, one aspect of the treatment of war in medieval theology on which Luther broke radically with his predecessors: the idea of a crusade. As a solution for the moral ambiguity of war that went beyond the tragic necessity implied in the Augustinian idea of a just war, the crusade imprinted the sacred sign of the cross of Jesus on the cause of ‘Holy Peace and Holy War.’ (15) ‘To take the cross’ meant to go off to war against the Turk in Palestine, wearing a cross of red cloth on the shoulder of one’s outer garment. While there is serious inconsistency between the accounts given by our several sources on the sermon preached by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont on 27 November 1095, it does seem clear that he promised remission of sins and indulgences to those who took the cross. He seems, moreover, to have described the death of those who, after taking the cross, fell in battle against the Turkish infidels as a kind of participation in the sufferings and death of Christ. In the event, as Runciman has put it, this ‘Crusading fervour’ in the name of Jesus ‘always provided an excuse for killing God’s enemies’ and led to pogroms against Jews, it even led to what he calls ‘the great betrayal of Christendom,’ the sack of Christian Constantinople by Christian Crusaders on the Fourth Crusade in 1204, a ‘crime against humanity’ and ‘an act of gigantic political folly,’ as well as a flagrant negation of the teachings of the very One in whose name they had gone forth and whose cross they bore. (16)
     By the period of the Reformation, the atmosphere had changed drastically; as one historian has put it, albeit with some exaggeration, ‘in the sixteenth century the idea of a Crusade falls into oblivion.’ (17) It is more precise to say, with another scholar, that ‘the idea of the crusade continued to haunt the imagination of western princes until the seventeenth century.’ (18) {And the rhetoric of George Bush in 2004 is certainly reminiscent of the same folly.} What fell into virtual oblivion was the practical possibility of a Crusade to Palestine to free the Holy Land from the infidel, for now the infidel had become a clear and present danger to Christian Europe itself. In 1453, Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine empire, which had been the victim of Western Christian aggression in 1204, fell to the Ottoman Turks, who during the next three-quarters of a century threatened central Europe: Belgrade surrendered to them in 1520, Vienna was in danger, and in 1526 at the battle of Mohacs the army of Hungary and its king, Louis II, fell before the superior might of the Turkish armies. Thanks to the recent invention of printing, a vast propaganda literature on the Turkish peril spread over central Europe, with some calling for compromise and appeasement and others for war and even for a revival of the Crusade—directed this time not against the Turks who had taken Palestine, but against the Turks who had pointed a dagger at the very heart of Western Christendom. All of this came at the very time that the Reformation seemed to be pointing its own dagger at Christendom, dividing the Christian forces just when they needed to unite against the common enemy. The coincidence of the two threats was the occasion for the convoking of the diet of the Holy Roman Empire at Augsburg in 1530, where the Augsburg Confession presented the case for the Lutheran Reformation.
     That confession made it the official position of the Reformation party that, since ‘all government in the world and all established rule and laws were instituted and ordained by God,’ {This is the crux of the thesis that there is indeed a plan or conspiracy and if you believe man has not made these nations then you are a dupe.} it was perfectly legitimate for Christians to ‘punish evildoers with the sword’ and to ‘engage in just wars.’ Specifically, it declared that Emperor Charles V, ‘His Imperial Majesty, may in salutary and godly fashion imitate the example of David {The House of David and the House of The Bruce are the people that still do this stuff of men.} in making war on the Turk.’ (19)
But the parallel between the Holy Roman Emperor and the ancient king of Israel did not make the emperor a theocratic ruler, who governed and waged war in the name of Jesus. The reason given for approving war against the Turk was, therefore, not the Crusade ideal of a holy war against the enemy of the cross of Christ; rather it was that, as the ‘incumbent of a royal office.’ Charles V, like King David of Israel, had the right, indeed the obligation, of ‘the defense and protection of [his] subjects.’ Luther’s treatise of 1526 on the Turkish was took the same position. It was mistaken to preach a Crusade and to urge ‘the emperor, as guardian of the church and defender of the faith,’ to take arms against the Turks; on the contrary, taking arms against the Turks would be the duty of the rulers of Europe, ‘whether they themselves were Christians or not,’ in keeping with their calling in the world to govern. (20) {Give this double-speak due consideration.} In its validation of war against the Turks, the mainstream of the Reformation rejected the Crusade ideal but insisted on the just war theory: such a war was legitimate on account of the Jesus who had acknowledged that Pontius Pilate and Caesar possessed an authority that came from God (John 19:11), {If any doubt the ancient Hegelian sophistication; this is an example of their deceit.} not on account of the Jesus whose crucifixion under Pontius Pilate had placed authority into the hands of his disciples and his church (Matt. 28:19-20).” (21)
     Philip Melanchthon prepared the Augsburg Confession which is the written system tens of millions of Lutherans are enamoured with. The German nobility at the 1530 Diet asked for some changes to it or rejected it but we need to understand why these nobles are so interested in using religion to gain power over the people in any event. We don’t really need anti-Semites like Luther even if he was right about the Papacy being a thoroughly detestable power-mongering institution. But I ask why did the subsequent Peace of Augsburg that allowed cities to have religious freedom really occur? Why would there ever have been a need to keep people in feudal religious control? Why do the historians not ask who was playing this game in the first place and why do they not see the inner sanctum ‘play both ends against the middle’ and only occasionally see the de-population efforts at work?
     Philip of Hesse and his Hesse-Battenbergs who later worked with the Rothschilds saw the impact of the Augsburg Confession would garner greater power for them. They organized a league called Schmalkaldic in Thuringia in December of 1530. History tells us they did this to defend themselves against The Catholic Emperor Charles V. It would be mere speculation to suggest that the Islamic or Turkish threat was part of a larger intrigue wherein the Semite ancestors of Sargon in that part of the world saw fit to work with their friends in Germany as they later did when disallowing the average Jews of Germany to be free to leave Germany. Yes, Hitler offered to do this twice during the war after the gas chambers were already doing their foul deeds. The Rothschild backers of Balfour and the stated need of a State of Israel in Palestine was behind the Holocaust. The Swiss and Turkish Jewish leaders declined the offer unless the State of Israel could be made legal. The average Jew thinks this kind of fact is pure fiction but it is their perception that is fiction. Eichmann tried to create a state of Israel before the war, but I have dealt with these matters in other books and must try to control my rage at this juncture.
     I hope the reader knows by now that Hegel is a neoplatonic philosopher and his refinement of the ‘play both ends against the middle’ use of Fukayama’s ‘absolute religions’ is the main thrust of what ails governance of people and life on earth. Thus we had Nostradamus the Hibernian Jew founding the Jesuits while Protestantism came to the fore. They had all bases covered and were able to keep the attention of people away from themselves for a long time and still are benefiting from all this intrigue. This theme was never more evident than in the 20th Century when certain people funded both Hitler and Stalin who really were part of the Hegelian dialectic and not really so different as it might seem. Here is a very small part of the story in the words of another university professor. The May Day celebrations in the Soviet Union occur on the same fateful day that celebrates the founding of the Adam Weisthaupt Illuminati backed by William of Hesse. I have quoted Yeltsin saying ‘they’ created this experiment. ‘They’ includes Lord Rothschild who openly stated he would replace the Czar. ‘They’ are the upper elite who have to reign in the lesser or ‘tinker parvenu nobility’ (words of HRH Nicholas de Vere) from time to time.
     “In a sense, the Peace of Augsburg was a compromise between those who believed in the absolute rule of Rome over all religious matters and those who wanted local congregations to choose between Roman Catholicism and Lutheranism. According to this agreement, the ruler of a principality or city determined the religious makeup of the area he ruled. Some of the principalities (those in southern Germany) remained loyal to Rome and some (mainly those in the north) embraced Lutheranism. This kind of church/state relationship became the rule and stayed that way into the twentieth century.” (22)
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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2004, 21:20:18 »

Here is the Bobik quote.

     Here is the crux of the matter and propaganda laid out by Augustine. “In q.73, Aquinas asks: UTRUM competio divinorum operum debeat septimo diei ascribi. The Scriptures say explicitly of the seventh day: ‘On the seventh day God completed His work which He had made’ (Genesis, 2, 2). Here, a throughout his reflections on the initial production of things by God, Aquinas proceeds with Augustine’s teaching on scriptural interpretation in mind, namely THIS teaching, which emphasizes TWO points:
     As Augustine teaches, ‘two’ things are to be observed in questions of this kind. The first is this; to hold to the truth of Scripture unwaveringly. The second is this, since Divine Scripture can be interpreted in many ways; not to adhere so tenaciously to a given exposition of it as to presume to assert it as the meaning of Scripture, if it has been shown with certitude to be false; lest Scripture be ridiculed by those who do not believe, and obstacles be placed in the way of their becoming believers.”(9)
     This is current teaching from Notre Dame University. They still don’t want to get in the way of ‘true believers’ even though they don’t believe in the seven day fiction. It would be better to teach the truth wouldn’t it? The Jewish coming to America is a central theme in Mormonism. The site found near Tucson called Rhoda after a leader from the home of Phoenicians called Rhodes where Posidonius had lived is a fine example of artifactual evidence ridiculed by non-experts against the very experts who properly gathered it. This was during the 6th to 8th Century AD after the Ostrogoths up and disappeared from Italy. The Ostrogoths are Benjaminites or Merovingians who had been taken to Arcadia in Greece when the other tribes of Israel waged war upon them and the Phoenicians came to their aid.
     It is hard to imagine this once Sacred Cow called Columbus’ Discovery of America ever existed but there are many who still cling to the lie and all it represents about superior races and ‘Manifest Destiny’. The courts might even overturn sovereign status for countries if they were to know the truth.
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« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2004, 21:27:40 »

I read your position on abortion. It is not addressing anything that I consider relevant to why abortion is none of other people's business unless government is to seriously endeavour to lead society towards a better world. In that case I favor mandatory early reversible sterilization until such time as the individual proves they are financially and spiritually or psychologically capable of raising a contributor to society. I do agree the soul enters the body at conception.

Since that kind of management is left to warfare and other genocidal programs at present I consider the woman deserves the right to make her own choices so that no baby born will have to be sufferring the kind of unsoulful growth evident wherever the Catholics have encouraged procreation to make more sheeple (and yes India has the same issues and worse - due to cows considered equally sacred).
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« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2004, 06:53:02 »

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/illuminati.htm
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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2004, 05:27:59 »

Ignatius Loyola – Luciferian or Heliopolitan:


I kid you not! Lucifer is the ‘light-bringer’ and just as Hitler was a ‘torch-bearer for Jesus’ we have the Luciferians inside the Catholic Church to this day as I have covered from the likes of Malachi Martin who was a Papal advisor to three Popes and taught Jewish studies (Kaballah?) at the Vatican College until recently. Indeed all the Alumbrados (means Illuminati) people are ‘light-bearers’ or en-‘light’-ened ones. That includes Rodrigo Borgia (Pope Alexander VI) who I have dealt with in many books. I have already mentioned this Idiot’s Guide has no mention of the Alumbrados founding the Jesuits or any intrigue related thereto including even the mere mention of Hibernians like Thomas Carlyle, Goethe, Saint Bernard as one, and other things related thereto. This does not surprise me one iota. Read the description of Jesus by Ignatius Loyola and think long and hard about whether I am right about his being inspired by the sun-worship or Heliopolitanism of the Druids; which is the basis of the Masons according to Thomas Paine who was higher up in the ‘octopus’.


“The Society of Jesus was founded by Ignatius of Loyola, who could be seen as the Catholic Reformation’s equivalent to Martin Luther. {Whose name is suggestive of Lucifer too.} Loyola has been referred to as one of the most important—if not the most important—figures of the Catholic Reformation.


Loyola was born Inigo de Oñez y Loyola around 1491. He was born at his family’s ancestral castle in Guipúzcoa. When he was old enough, he entered the military service, where he served until 1521 when he was seriously wounded in battle. During his recovery from his wounds, he read about the lives of the saints of the church, and he was motivated to devote his life to spiritual service. He hung up his sword and spent a year in prayer and meditation at a cave near the Manresa monastery. While there, Loyola fasted, knelt in prayer for seven hours a day, and flagellated himself to the point of endangering his health. {I grew up near a Manresa Lodge that had some weird goings-on and I often wonder when I see them in places like Sedona or other earth-based religious areas. I am sure he spoke with them or received instruction from them at this time.}


Loyola later described this time as an incredible ‘mystical’ experience during which he had blinding visions of heaven and hell and Christ and Satan. He saw Jesus as ‘a big round form shining as gold.’…


…Loyola and the Jesuits welcomed only those whose spirituality reflected his {N.B.} and those who were willing to engage in unquestioned obedience to the pope.{Giving up their possessions like the Templars too.} Any applicant who had even a hint of bad character or lack of orthodoxy was rejected. {Really? What orthodoxy might that be?}…


…The mission of the Jesuits was to educate the young, to lead people back from Protestantism to Catholicism, and to take the Catholic message to new areas of the world.


They were successful in all three endeavours.” (3)
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« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2004, 20:10:02 »

Dear T

I hear a Wiccan group out of Georgia has reviewed Diverse Druids and it will be on their site once they have finished some constructions. You had mentioned your work in the New Age genre and I thought you might find it interesting that this group has already sent their review to the New Age Journal.
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« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2004, 01:33:50 »

Well I am a high school student who has been taught at a Jesuit Run school for the past 2 years. And in the theology classes and other books I have read, it's quite obvious that other 'pagan' religions influenced the course of the foundation of the Jesuits. However, in the Old Testament and how Judiasm was formed was through the 'splicing of religions' or syncrotism and this is true of all religions. For example, the Hebrews coming out of Egypt (a much smaller group than normally depicted 100-500 most likely) enter Cannan and basically have a single message, not nessecarily a religion, and that is that thier God is a God who liberates them from slavery. And Moses when recieving the 10 commandments was the first 'solid' instructions for worshipping them. So the Hebrews come to Cannan and want more people to believe in thier God so, with the vast majority of the cannonites being slaves to masters. Thier message spread quickly and this is where the problems began, these uneducated (for the most part) pagan worshipers go to follow a 'single God' and there is little information on how to. So basically this syncronism (splicing of pagan rites and incorporating them into the forming religion) happened when the people spread out to recruit people to the religion with no doctoral standard. And this is how 'sacrifices' were so common in the old testament, not that the faith actually wanted or believed in it. And ignatious had beliefs that he wanted his 'order' to be strong believers in the teachings of Jesus-not counting alot of the Old Testament, and believers in the Pope as a way of showing commitment to God. This initailly started as his uneducated views from reading books on saints and the bible-uninfluenced, but as he began teaching it was very very hard to find people to follow him so he initially incorportated some catholic and protestant views. As time went on and they spread to less educated countries they too began trying to get people to join thier Society of Jesus. So a majority of the written doctorates in the faith often have mentions of various cults, secret societies, or beliefs that greatly contradict thiers and aren't meant for everyone but were later meant to dissapear. And this syncrotism is, even today, causing some trouble in the Society of Jesus. The other thing I see in accurate about Luciferians being like jesuits is that you mentioned Various Illuminati people who 'FOUNDED' it And this is very inaccurate. The Illumaniti were looking first off at a world order that is under one belief so they needed to spread thier influence, this happend after a majority of the doctorates were actually formed. It's the same as saying the Free Masons are an Anarchist group, the Illumanitis did the same thing there. While not saying they influenced the society, they did not control it and alot of the misconceptions from the doctorates are due to syncrotism and most are later contradicted by more modern papers so others are studied not followed.

I hope this helped clear some things up, any questions just say or message me, Sorry for the legnth.
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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2004, 01:34:17 »

Well I am a high school student who has been taught at a Jesuit Run school for the past 2 years. And in the theology classes and other books I have read, it's quite obvious that other 'pagan' religions influenced the course of the foundation of the Jesuits. However, in the Old Testament and how Judiasm was formed was through the 'splicing of religions' or syncrotism and this is true of all religions. For example, the Hebrews coming out of Egypt (a much smaller group than normally depicted 100-500 most likely) enter Cannan and basically have a single message, not nessecarily a religion, and that is that thier God is a God who liberates them from slavery. And Moses when recieving the 10 commandments was the first 'solid' instructions for worshipping them. So the Hebrews come to Cannan and want more people to believe in thier God so, with the vast majority of the cannonites being slaves to masters. Thier message spread quickly and this is where the problems began, these uneducated (for the most part) pagan worshipers go to follow a 'single God' and there is little information on how to. So basically this syncronism (splicing of pagan rites and incorporating them into the forming religion) happened when the people spread out to recruit people to the religion with no doctoral standard. And this is how 'sacrifices' were so common in the old testament, not that the faith actually wanted or believed in it. And ignatious had beliefs that he wanted his 'order' to be strong believers in the teachings of Jesus-not counting alot of the Old Testament, and believers in the Pope as a way of showing commitment to God. This initailly started as his uneducated views from reading books on saints and the bible-uninfluenced, but as he began teaching it was very very hard to find people to follow him so he initially incorportated some catholic and protestant views. As time went on and they spread to less educated countries they too began trying to get people to join thier Society of Jesus. So a majority of the written doctorates in the faith often have mentions of various cults, secret societies, or beliefs that greatly contradict thiers and aren't meant for everyone but were later meant to dissapear. And this syncrotism is, even today, causing some trouble in the Society of Jesus. The other thing I see in accurate about Luciferians being like jesuits is that you mentioned Various Illuminati people who 'FOUNDED' it And this is very inaccurate. The Illumaniti were looking first off at a world order that is under one belief so they needed to spread thier influence, this happend after a majority of the doctorates were actually formed. It's the same as saying the Free Masons are an Anarchist group, the Illumanitis did the same thing there. While not saying they influenced the society, they did not control it and alot of the misconceptions from the doctorates are due to syncrotism and most are later contradicted by more modern papers so others are studied not followed.

I hope this helped clear some things up, any questions just say or message me, Sorry for the legnth.
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« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2004, 04:13:22 »

Hi..

The Ten Commandments are in earlier religions and the Books of the Dead and Ma'at.

The Syncretism of beliefs is a managed thing in history throughout the last 5000 years of this 'nightmare' (James Joyce).

The Alumbrados (another name for Illuminati) included the De Medicis and Borgias as well as the Jesuit Nostradamus but your school system (even if they knew) would not draw these things to your attention.

Malachi Martin was a Vatican professor and advisor to three Popes and reading him might get you ready to read my work.
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« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2005, 22:42:24 »

Actually they have brought to our attention the people you mentioned. Hell, St. Ignatious was taught for 8 years by a head alumbrados memeber. Also, as aforementioned the 10 commandments are part of several religious. I mean even Jesus is regaurded in a few religious. The point is that not every Jesuit or person of a religion is going to be good. Look at hitler or Stalin, but we must assume the majority of any relgion upholds the beliefs of a greater good as is mentioned numerous times by st. ignatious in the phrase 'Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam' For the greater glory of God' So do not assume if one mystic that is against a religion stands for means that the religion is false. Besides Nostrodomous was regarded as a hertic.So think on that.
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« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2005, 14:39:54 »

My Lord!!!! rolleyes  rolleyes  rolleyes  rolleyes  rolleyes  rolleyes  rolleyes
           I just found this post & excuse my German but what the &^%*?
Catholicism is one of the most false religions on this earth teaching unless you are a catholic you will go to hell.

Hitler a torch bearer for Jesus again what the &*^%,Holy S**t, like too la fong.
Apart from the fact Hitler loved wearing woman's clothes & not to mention he killed & tortured millions says to me that "Guest" is in some serious urgent need of counseling & should stop using mind altering chemicals.

The fact that "Guest" believes this tripe is enough to make me wet myself with laughter.... cheesy

GET A LIFE!!

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« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2005, 14:47:15 »

Jesus Said..I am the Truth, The Light...The Way...Never did he say the Catholic Church is those things....Man puts God in buildings, I put god inside me..

Praise the True Church.....The Body is the Temple....Look after it

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« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2005, 19:44:32 »

Catholicism is one of the most false religions on this earth teaching unless you are a catholic you will go to hell.

two points:

1) um.. *some*catholics are not the only christians to say that only by their particular brand of christianity shall you get to heaven... in fact you will find plenty of evangelical protestants saying just the same thing.

2) You are also wrong and this shows your lack of knowledge about modern catholic doctrines.. in fact the catholic church now officially acknowledges that not just other branches of christianity but even *non* christians and members of other religions or no religion (athiests etc) are still loved by god and get into heaven providing they are *good people* at heart, even if mis-informed in some cases, although of course the church advocates its own official catholic doctrine as the best way to be close to god.

So in this regard Official catholicism is actually very sensible and ahead of many evangelical protestant sects who DO rant about how we all can only be 'saved' by adhering to their own particlular brand of christianity, and preching eternal damnation to those who dont ('eternal' damnation being another innacuracy).
Of course you will always get those catholics who do not accept the official line just as not all evangelicals are as crazed as the ones I just mentioned.

So it would be helpful if you actually aquired some facts before you started making sweeping generalisations and sectarian rants.

Doug (who is not even a christian!).
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« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2005, 20:52:36 »

I have the Facts...
Everybody goes to Heaven...Everybody(AN EXTREMELY Small percentage will face spiritual death)
I got my Facts Directly....Where do you get yours???
From A book???

Catholicism is going Dowwwwn

Religion will NEVER own Lord Jesus Christ EVER
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« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2005, 22:25:48 »

Catholicism is going Dowwwwn

I think you have some issues.

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« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2005, 05:21:17 »

Well I hope Catholicism is going down....
I bonking h8 that religion
Bring on the personal attacks NumbNuts Cheesy
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« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2005, 05:29:17 »

why do you hate Catholicism?
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« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2005, 05:59:58 »

I went to Church with my wife & was told I could not have Communion.
We got married & wasn't allowed to get married in a catholic church
because I'm Church of England.
Was told by a catholic priest that Only Catholic Who go to the true church go to heaven.
They call the Pope "Holy Father" lol what an insult...God is the Holy Father end of story.
Pope John Paul ii is a great man but just that he is & will never be the Holy Father.
I pray to the Holy Father through Jesus Christ I don't pray to the pope.
Catholics place more emphasis n the Blessed Virgin Mary than they do Jesus hence Hail Marys etc(Jesus is mentioned once).
Catholicism is the problem of all religions in this world...


They have appointed a new pope years Ago (Pope Pius xiii) (Father Robert Lyons)He is in America...check it out on Google!!!!

My wife is Roman Catholic so its not the people I don't like just the Heresies that church commits.

The Artefact's from Egypt and other places the Catholic church has STOLEN.

I could go on & on & they are all True Facts!!!

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« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2005, 06:02:16 »

The Catholic Church DENIES man what Christ gave freely to ALL men unless your Catholic of course!!!

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« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2005, 06:04:38 »

its no big deal man, religion is just a form of control (please don't hurt me)
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« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2005, 06:08:53 »

If We did get married in the Catholic church & had children we would have to sign a Piece of paper declaring any children we have would be brought up Catholic hence we got married in the Church of England or as it is here the Anglican Church....They gave us both communion(My wife is Catholic) And Received a blessing & no contracts to sign apart from the wedding papers and it was all before God...
Latetr a catholic priest said our marriage was not recognized by God because it didn't take place in the catholic church....You ask me why I hate Catholicism!!!!
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« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2005, 06:10:47 »

Why would I hurt you Brother Neo???
I agree religion is ALL about control...

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« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2005, 06:10:47 »

hahaha! signing a contract for religion? that IS retarded, but of course when you are as enlightened as me it's not too stupid
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