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« on: September 22, 2003, 19:14:36 »

Too bad Narrow Path is gone. You two would have fun together. [Smiley]
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2003, 01:07:54 »

Darkness Of Christ

Mankind in his insatiable search for divine
Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings

Realizing that the strength of religion is the repression of
knowledge
All structures of religion have collapsed

Life prays for death
in the wake of the horror of these revelations

It was never imagined how graphic the reality that would
be known as the end
of creation
Would manifest itself

We believe all this chaos and atrocity can be traced
Back to one single event

We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003, 03:20:07 »

Lay off the coffee...
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2003, 15:25:26 »

he could possibly be allanon, spited by being kicked and back to try and cause some havoc.

or not. either way, he's just another fanatic so meh.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2004, 01:26:27 »

"Darkness of Christ"?  I'm a follower of Christ and that term to me is an extreme contradiction.  I've always found it funny how those who do not follow Christ always claim to know the most about Him, or at least christianity.  In any case, False Prophet has failed to convince me of the error of my ways.  Good luck with that in the future, I have a feeling you're gonna need it!
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2004, 02:08:28 »

Certainly isn't a positive outlook, no matter what your beliefs. Those lyrics are from the Slayer album 'God Hates Us All', the first track. A friend of mine at school has made me familiar of the album. It seems he enjoys the image associated with it more than the ideas behind what is actually said. In fact, he's sort of admitted to just that. But, if someone was to feel those ideas are actually in their best interest, it's all good.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2004, 02:31:33 »

This is the same kind of mindset those terrorists in Al Queada(sp?) and those overly nuclear-bomb-obsessed wankers in America have.

Do yourself a favour and leave. Nobody cares about your foolhardy and fanatical beliefs, in fact they are rather annoying.

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2004, 05:30:55 »

Umm, whatever happened to freedom of speach?

I dont necisarilly agree or disagree, but it sounds like preaching to me.

Allanon was a radical fundamentalist internet christian missionary, FP is the exact opposite.

 
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This is the same kind of mindset those terrorists in Al Queada(sp?) and those overly nuclear-bomb-obsessed wankers in America have.


I doubt you know the mindset of terrorists, if you can even identify true terrorism at that. Most of the suicide bombings in the middle east, maybe even 9/11, are based on religous beliefs, where Allah, Christ, whoever, "promised" passage into heaven while dying in battle against his enemies (even if its suicide).

So, its quite the opposite mindset of what your thinking of.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2004, 20:27:49 »

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Allanon was a radical fundamentalist internet christian missionary,


It really is too bad that that is all you think of him as. Remember, he was one of you before. It seems that no one ever mentioned how he had changed and how drastic the change was. Figures.

 
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where Allah, Christ, whoever, "promised" passage into heaven while dying in battle against his enemies (even if its suicide).



Just to be certain, this is not even close to a teaching in Christianity, but it is most certainly one in Islam.

Fat Turkey,

You're sounding somewhat fanatical yourself.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2004, 21:17:33 »

Agreed!  I don't recall any teachings by Christ in which He states that we are promised heaven if we kill ourselves in His name.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2004, 21:53:56 »

Its not a matter of which god, deity, prophet said it, some one said it and some one made it into a dogma, and people are killing eachother over religious beliefs. Hence, the audacity of organized religion.

As for christianity, christians / catholics condemed "witches" to die, while a few hundred years later, specifically the christians raped and brainwashed all of the first nations people.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2004, 23:53:24 »

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Allanon was a radical fundamentalist internet christian
Just to be certain, this is not even close to a teaching in Christianity, but it is most certainly one in Islam.



I'm not absolutely sure, but I don't think even true Islam teaches this. I believe there are radical islamics that have bent the teachings of islam to suit their purposes just as there are radical christians that give christianity a bad name.

The whole "God told me to do it" bit has been used by many religions and cults. Seems to me a convenient excuse to allow them to deny responsibility for thier own deplorable actions.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2004, 00:29:28 »

i understand what false prophet is tryin to grab at. he's saying that organized religion in itself has become corrupt and will bend and stretch the truth to make their religion seem the only one, or 'the best' when in fact when you look at it, all religions (in my opinion) seem to originate from a single source and therefore, the basic core beliefs are the same, yet over so many years those who have led the churches change the writing and phrase them as how they see it should be, for instance in America, many people justified slavery with bible scriptures. Also, that many people are trying to find answers from others instead of searching inside their own soul for an answer.
I don't think he's saying that Jesus Christ himself is evil, nor God. .but the church that has slaughtered his name, the churches that claim to follow God and christ when all they do is turn away from it.
this has been going on for centuries, and not many have spoken against it 1. for fear of blastphoemy (sp?) 2. because it's what they've been taught and have never questioned it.
   I think Jesus died so we CAN question religion, so we CAN look inside ourselves to find the answer.
people shouldn't be so quick to judge unless you understand what the person is trying to say.
i think there was a saying that went something like :
   "Earth is filled with Christs and Buddhas, but does anyone really listen?"
the christian churches supposedly teach the love of christ, but they're the ones who are so judgemental of others. .try having a discussion with a catholic , and you'll see what i mean.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2004, 05:04:45 »

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Originally posted by harlequin_star

i understand what false prophet is tryin to grab at. he's saying that organized religion in itself has become corrupt and will bend and stretch the truth to make their religion seem the only one, or 'the best' when in fact when you look at it, all religions (in my opinion) seem to originate from a single source and therefore, the basic core beliefs are the same, yet over so many years those who have led the churches change the writing and phrase them as how they see it should be, for instance in America, many people justified slavery with bible scriptures. Also, that many people are trying to find answers from others instead of searching inside their own soul for an answer.
I don't think he's saying that Jesus Christ himself is evil, nor God. .but the church that has slaughtered his name, the churches that claim to follow God and christ when all they do is turn away from it.
this has been going on for centuries, and not many have spoken against it 1. for fear of blastphoemy (sp?) 2. because it's what they've been taught and have never questioned it.
   I think Jesus died so we CAN question religion, so we CAN look inside ourselves to find the answer.
people shouldn't be so quick to judge unless you understand what the person is trying to say.
i think there was a saying that went something like :
   "Earth is filled with Christs and Buddhas, but does anyone really listen?"
the christian churches supposedly teach the love of christ, but they're the ones who are so judgemental of others. .try having a discussion with a catholic , and you'll see what i mean.




what you've said makes alot of sense, and it sad in my eyes. Because people always say thier version is the proper one, and the refuse too look at or see any other way.

I'm glad though there are many different beliefs and countries, etc.

this way at least not one religion or government can write history as they see fit.

it's a shame how someones words are written down many many years later in another language, and it is taken as the absolute truth.

then this absolute truth gets changed, and translated again..... how many times ?

then you have someone teach that thier version is the most accurate and correct version, and deem others as false, and ignoring history that does not fit with thier own beliefs.

after a while you got man living with dinosaurs, and faith over reason.

IMHO
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2004, 05:13:56 »

quote:
Originally posted by False Prophet

Darkness Of Christ

Mankind in his insatiable search for divine
Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings

Realizing that the strength of religion is the repression of
knowledge


does this mean faith / over reason ?

not accepting to learn or be open too new ideas or beliefs ?

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All structures of religion have collapsed

Life prays for death


i have a book on prayers and such, and statistaclly (SP?) something like %10 of Americans admit too praying for harm to another roughly.

how about those who do not admit ?

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in the wake of the horror of these revelations


this for me is a matter of perspective. i choose my own beliefs now, and it's not a horrible thing for me. but it is sad too look through-out history at how organized religion has harm soceity IMHO

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It was never imagined how graphic the reality that would
be known as the end
of creation
Would manifest itself


again, is this about creationisim or is it about faith over reason ?

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We believe all this chaos and atrocity can be traced
Back to one single event


does time even exist as we percieve it ?

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We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All





i have never went through Slayer lyrics like that before.

what is equal ? i personally think everyone should be treated equal.

equal in what ?

and does "God" hate us all ?

I'm not even sure if I believe in a "God"

and if I do, I'm not even sure if i believe it too be a self-aware being that can have feelings of hate.

how do we know "God" is aware of us ?

"God" has not personally communicated with me that I can know of.

but "God" is different for each person, IMHO


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