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« on: December 16, 2012, 15:55:55 »

The origins of the English word allegiance are interesting:

Allegiance comes from two words, Latin “ad” which means “to”, “toward”, “at”.
The French word liege is derived from the Latin LIGARE from ligo which means “to bind”,
so liege was to bind a relationship of a vassal to his feudal lord.

Liege” has many different applications.
Here the root or suffix can come from the writing or decree from a leige lord –
a king or lord of a city to which one would pledge his allegiance.
As the prefix “al” means “to” suffix “legiance” as in pledging allegiance to something or someone is the pawning.
The root suffix liege is again found in such words as religion,
or reliege or to be attorned so as to transfer one homage or so as to continue as a new land lords tenant.
To attorn is almost like a lien – to transfer the tenant on a property from one land lord to another land lord,
the tenant stays on the property.
This is all feudal law.
The allegiance from someone or something is to transfer this allegiance or to be attorned.

Source: http://speakesto.blogspot.com.au/2010/06/jaanioo-latis.html

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Do you reliege to another lord when say you follow a religion?
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What is Lore?

Why is Lore and Law used interchangeably?

Lore definitions: http://www.wordswarm.net/dictionary/lore.html

LORE, n. Learning; doctrine; lesson; instruction. The law of nations, or the lore of war.
-Webster's 1828 Dictionary

archaic something that is taught ; lesson 2. something that is learned:
a. knowledge gained through study or experience
b. traditional knowledge or belief 3. a particular body of knowledge or tradition II.
-Merriam Webster's


The term ‘lore’ refers to the customs and stories the Aboriginal peoples learned from
the Dreamtime.

Aboriginal lore was passed on through the generations through songs,
stories and dance and it governed all aspects of traditional life.
-http://www.workingwithatsi.info/content/PI_laws.htmhttp://www.aboriginalculturalconcepts.com/her-story.html




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The living, word is God. (Consciousness/ Spirit)
Light is God.
God and man are one as the living word is in man.
Man's living, active words is the lore.
Lore is the living words within man and is man's living beliefs and stories.
Each man experiences hiSTORY/herSTORY and the UinVERSE according to own lore.
Each man is "sui generis" [unique] of (his/her) own kind, and therefore
there is no other law that is between man and God.

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Note: 'Man' is not gender specific.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them (Bible Genesis 1:27)
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 15:08:06 »

What is sovereignty?
Firstly, man does not have "rights" but instead one right, the "birthright", to have everything.
Sovereignty means "soul reign" where if man has an eternal soul,
it reigns within him and should in physical life.
Land can have solidarity, but not sovereignty. The latter is exclusively man's.
To grant sovereignty is a simple process of a pure trust Exchangor/Grantor granting it to any human that desires it.
Once sovereign, one is a legal individual and not subject to anyone or anything unless he or she so chooses.
"As of grace by the sovereign himself (agbesh)" (Blackstone's Commentaries 242 - Corpus Juris Secundum)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_sovereignty


Sui juris
Many sovereigns add this Latin phrase, meaning "of one's own right,"
to their flesh-and-blood names on legal documents to signify that
they are reserving all the rights to which a free man is entitled.

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 04:08:12 »

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I am Divine living word within (and without), Lord and my Lore.

(To explain concepts in our vernacular and in context I use the phrase "living word within" to make the distinction
between man's temp-oral body and perceived ego-self
vs
Divine living spirit.
However I know that God/Divine living word & will/Consciousness/Light of Mind/Source (all metaphors) is all that is).


I have been pointing out that the many stories and beliefs in Gods and Goddesses were based on Astromythology.
Similarly our present day religions, such as Christianity uses the basis of the Bible stories as it's beliefs.

For example "SIN" the Moon Goddess/God:
in association with the natural moon-related cycle of female fertility.
http://www.dhushara.com/book/orsin/origsin.htm


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Astromythology: it has been demonstrated that the Bible is not literal and is allegorical.
It contains a collection of stories which uses symbols and metaphors to represent ideologies &
the celestial movement of the sun, planets, moon, stars and constellations.
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Consequently these stories, myths, legends become CULTural customs, traditions and beliefs.
Both
Lore (living word within hence Lord/God is eternal living word within)
& Law (written law which is not living),
and are used to spellbound believers to
reliege to another GOD/Lord.



Those who are not aware of the eternal living word/Divine spirit within
blindly reliege to an external Lord
to govern mind (governMENT. MENT = mind) and
temp-oral body (Temp = temple = vehicle of experience in limited time, not eternal. Oral = living word within).


Quote from: Dreamingod
Post - Religion & Astrotheology/ Astromythology: http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20733#p20733


Myths and legends fuels the imaginative mind and hold spellbound those firm believers.


Myths, traditions, legends, beliefs and stories make up lore.



It is my intention to demonstrate the relationships between these concepts:
-myths
-beliefs
-religion
-Astromythlogy & mythology
-lore
-law
-soul reign
-the living word/Divine eternal Spirit

so that each self can see their own Divine inner light.


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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 14:53:43 »

I'll guess you've read The secret of Light by Walter Russell.
Interesting...
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2012, 10:46:50 »

I'll guess you've read The secret of Light by Walter Russell.
Interesting...

My understanding and realisation of self, reality and unreality arises
from experiences and knowing, and has indeed been illuminated by words of
Walter Russell and Lao Russell.
The Message of the Divine  Iliad:

The coming age of new thinking will see the end of heathen and pagan
religious practices for countless thousands --- and these will become the
seed for the ending of such practices in thoses lesser knowing.

To man's new day, now dawning, when he who alone knows the anguish
of the dark shall find peace through knowing the Light of God in him, as
very Self of him
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Knowing is that which is the Light within us.
It is the cause of the effect which our sense observe.....

God, the Master Playwright, is Master Creator.
The Universal Play of Creation is His imagining.
His mental attitude is one unchanging ecstasy
in knowing that the unfolding of His imaginings are true to His law
[of balance = giving and regiving = love]

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2012, 23:04:00 »

Thanks for posting this dreamingod.

I tried to make out what I could but it was all too much for me. I have a VERY hard time understanding things unless they are in video and shown to me visually.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 10:56:10 »

Dreamingod, [cryptic]
Does Vinny Spring to Mind?

You will know or not
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 12:20:04 »

Thanks for posting this dreamingod.

I tried to make out what I could but it was all too much for me. I have a VERY hard time understanding things unless they are in video and shown to me visually.

Which part in particular are you referring to?


I forgot to link the this post: Etymology: Lucifer, Devil, Hel, Amen Ra all mean light. Reliege-ion. LORE. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230573
to put into context.

In summary, most organised religions personify the heavenly bodies as a basis of their stories;
the sun, moon, planets, stars and constellations are casted [put a spell] as Gods/Goddesses/ personalities/ themes of the (Astro)Story.
For example the 'Three Wise Kings' in the Christian story of the birth of Jesus were based on the
three stars in 'Orion' aligned towards 'Sirius' http://www.usbible.com/astrology/star_of_bethlehem.htm
These Astromythology/ stories becomes the basis of CULT-U-R-al (CULT-YOU-ARE-ALL)
that is group beliefs, traditions, customs.

Those who are so spell-bound by these stories in effect
forget about their Divine inner light/ spirit/ soul/ consciousness/ eternal living word/ light of mind (all metaphors)
and reliege to an external Lord (govern-MENT= mind control) when they follow the written dead words without questioning the validity of these beliefs.
The written words, the Laws do not recognise that unique Divine light of mind embodied in each man,
and consequently limits the scope of the creative expression.
Each soul through their experiences has own beliefs and stories;
this is their living LORE.
Thus eternal spirit/ living word embodied in the temp-oral man temple/vehicle
is 'sui juris' (in his/her own right) and no other Law or Lord shall
stand between man and his/her inner Divinity, the eternal SELF unless he consents.

Self is the eternal living word and the playwrighter clothed in man.
Man who knows this calls himself a sovereign because he knows that his eternal soul reigns,
and acts to free himself from the hypnosis/ spells of religion, government and dogma (unquestionable belief systems).

[notice the words play, act, cast,
even the word 'person' in Black's Law dictionary (for legal practitioners) means 'legal fiction'
PERSON, noun. per'sn. [Latin persona; said to be compounded of per, through or by, and sonus, sound; a Latin word signifying primarily a mask used by actors on the stage.] -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.].

Knowing that the Self is the eternal living word/ consciousness,
Self knows that all things are unreal, and are effects of light of mind/ consciousness.
Self knows both the actor, man and the playwriter is the Creator of His imaginings, and author of
his-story and hence the experiencer of his Lore.
Self in Self awareness and attitude recognises and seeks love, balanced creative expressions and peace in own imaginings.


***Note: Since reality is what we define it to be, notice the spellings of words and their etymylogy.

Etymology is the study of the history of words, their origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time.


I am the Eternal Living word/ consciousness who gives definitions to things >
I like to deconstruct spellings/words.

Experiment:
Ex: out of, from
per: "according to", taken from the Latin word per which meant "per : (+ acc.) (cause) because of, on account of. "; each
I: self
ment = Latin 'mente' = mind
===> Ex-per-I-ment: each self perceives according to/from mind

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 12:36:12 »

Dreamingod, [cryptic]
Does Vinny Spring to Mind?

You will know or not

No.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 10:45:20 »

We are each a star of our story and You-in-verse.
We are each a light being of our Universe.
We are each the dreamer and the dream who being self aware, consciously direct our play Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 13:28:22 »



We are omnipresent spiritual being, soul, light being, consciousness, living word, Divine vibration
light of mind, Divine being, God, all that is    (all metaphors)
-Who gives defintion to things-

having temp-oral
(temp = temple = body vehicle expression ; oral = word within)
Hu-man
(Hu = God ; man = made in God's image/mental image/imagination)
physical
(phy = phi = golden number ; sical = cycle = vortex = spiral = oscillating electrical and magnetic fields)
experiences
(Ex = out of, from ; per = according to, each ; I = self ; ence = suffix indicating an action, state, condition, or quality).


HU = the Word = Divine Vibration = God
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In the beginning was Brahman, with whom was the Word. And the Word is Brahman. - Rig Veda

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -Bible. John 1:1

As the religions of East and West so strikingly agree: in the beginning was the Word.
But exactly what was -- or, to use the present tense of the Vedic quotation, is -- the Word?
The above scriptures describe it as being a part of God, or Brahman.
Further, the quotation from the opening of the gospel of St John continues, pregnant with meaning:

The same (the Word) was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In Hinduism the divine vibration is, as we have seen, more usually referred to as OM.
Nevertheless, the Word and the OM are one and the same thing.
Moreover, a great variety of other terms stemming from the different cultures of ancient times
also refer to this same universal, eternal phenomenon.
Cosmic Sound, infused with the essence of Consciousness, has been known variously as
AUM, AMN, AMEN, AMEEN, OMEN, OMON, I AM, HU, YAHUVAH,
the Logos, the Lost Word, and by other names besides.

In Persia the name of the fabulous huma bird is derived from the root, Hum, which is related to OM.
And tradition has it that should the huma bird alight for a moment upon the head of any person,
then it is a sign that the person is destined to become a 'king'.

Incidentally, the root, HU, is a direct reference to the Word of God;
and this is most interesting, for this same root is also a part of the Word human.

In 'human', the man portion comes from the Sanskrit Mana, or 'mind of the ordinary man'.
So the term 'human' is therefore an eternal reminder of the ancient doctrine:
that God is even now in all men, and can be more fully realized by all.
Even as Jesus was also the Christ, demonstrating the unification of the principles of earth
and heaven as both the Son of Man and the Son of God, so are all men hu-man; God-man.


Source and more info: The HU in Secular Texts http://www.sourcetext.com/hupage/Secular/secular.html


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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 15:58:17 »

Why do you talk all weird @_@?
You are manipulating words into something mystical. I don't think "human" was used in ancient times and was invented by some English person or something.

"Hu" in both Hebrew and Arabic means "He"
"Huwa" means "He is" or in Hebrew "he who is" or if you wanna spice things up "Ya HuWa" which is "Oh! He is"

You're basically saying we are He-man  ._. But of cause Hu could mean anything depending on the language.
Also God made man in his image, sadly we made God in our image.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 13:18:57 »

Why do you talk all weird @_@?
Definition of weird.
adjective    1suggesting something supernatural; unearthly
Source: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/weird
Relative to this reality frame, I am indeed discussing ideas and symbols relating to divinity,
which may appear 'weird' or 'supernatural' to most programmed minds.
I am providing many referenced links to corrobating information.


You are manipulating words into something mystical. I don't think "human" was used in ancient times and was invented by some English person or something.
You can think, think something, or not think what you like.
Obviously you missed where I referenced the "HU" information from another Source.
The HU in Secular Texts http://www.sourcetext.com/hupage/Secular/secular.html


You're basically saying we are He-man  ._. But of cause Hu could mean anything depending on the language.
huh Can you quote me on that? Where did I say "He-man"?
If you failed to read the thread properly, I suggest you read the post in the context of the thread
to assimilate the intention and information.
Note: I usually provide the source of the referenced materials/definitions.

Also God made man in his image, sadly we made God in our image.
The only thing that is sad to you is your above perspective.




I have experienced my divine inner light & know that my eternal soul reigns.
I accept my eternal soul, my divinity and my ability to define and create what I can imagine.
My acceptance of my experiences, perspectives and insights is all that matters to me
(pun intended - as there is no matter, no thing, only consciousness).
To each their own.


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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 13:32:17 »

Im sorry. I was in an egoistic state and took it on your post without reading the full presentation. 

I don't know how you guys can reach this innerself and know who you are ect. I've been trying for ages to "know thy self" but I get nothing but silence which leads to philosophy which is just ideas that makes sence but doesnt prove anything. Which is why I tend to stay with different scruptures of the world and suffer ideas and concepts whichout getting anywhere.

How do you do it? How did you connect and felt that divine self within you?
Im open minded, but because I havent experience any type of spiriutal shift within myself, I just can't see how people can do this type of stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 02:42:51 »

I've been trying for ages to "know thy self" but I get nothing but silence

How do you do it? How did you connect and felt that divine self within you?
It is in the silence, "the void" without any body awareness that one is completely aware of self.
In this state I have experienced many times the state of "I am" without any self definition;
being conscious that I am conscious. I am the source of my thoughts and feelings.
One can feel complete peace as well as bliss.
There is no sense of time because you are the only reference (no point); there is only "mind".

Allow yourself to experience the silence. Be immersed in the silence of self.
From this state ask yourself "Who am I?"


which leads to philosophy which is just ideas that makes sence but doesnt prove anything.
When one realises that "mind" thinks thoughts, ideas; imagines/visualises personalities, stories scenes, then one knows that "mind" is completely free to think or not think what "mind wants".
Mind is not constrained to a particular set of ideas and perspectives unless mind chooses to be.

How can this be proven? What proof would you accept?
Ultimately don't you choose, determine what is proof? what is truth?
Then don't you give definitions to things, ideas?

One can also consider one's phasing experiences:
in this state, what you desire, think and feel creates your mindscape.


suffer ideas and concepts whichout getting anywhere.
Apart from the physical sensations of pain and suffering from body awareness,
in moments of contemplation and introspection can't one suffer from one's thoughts,
memories and perspectives? In this instance one does not go anywhere.
One experiences different states of consciousness and perspectives.


Im open minded, but because I havent experience any type of spiriutal shift within myself, I just can't see how people can do this type of stuff.
The word "Spiritual shift" is often loaded with many mixed ideas, emotions and expections.
Perhaps it is your self definitions of "spiritual shift" that is causing any self doubt.
By being an active member of this forum you have already demonstrated a "spiritual shift"
because unlike most programmed minds you are asking questions about self, reality and truth.

When one realises that one is not the ego, the personality construct, then one is free to explore
the many ideas, perspectives, belief systems without any fear,
or the need to be loyal to any particular group or CULTure.


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"We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts, we make the world.”
- Buddha


Eventually one will notice that through the recorded ages, stories, scriptures, communities
these are all ideas and perspectives which may or may not resonate with you.
Subsequently the question arises, are there absolutes?
Or is everything a choice, a matter of perspectives?

Know thyself. Trust in self is to create your own lore  smiley


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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2013, 03:04:46 »

Respectfully replied. A good post D.
In the void, ask " What will I become"?
Keep your thoughts on the final destination, after all re-incarnations, spiritual learnings ect.

I'm sure you'll see the light.
After all and in the beginning there's only one word...
After the word, we became...

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2013, 04:16:56 »

illuminated
ILL to be sick
luminated full of light 

illuminated to have bad light, sick light, but my favorite and the one i go with is IL is not not/luminated
13love though didnt read all of your posts but im etymology of words is something i get a kick out of like the word words is sword because my words are swords.
english- you put english on a ball when it is struck to spin it backwards english the backwards language you do etymology. NICE=dumb, bless=to make a blood offering.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2013, 15:52:49 »

In the void, ask " What will I become"?

I'm sure you'll see the light.

True. We are all made in God's image,
that is all that we perceive, we first conceive in imagination, in mind  smiley

Just came across these pages which will help put in perspective.
Walter & Lao Russell:
Universal Law, Natural Science & Philosophy - A Home Study Course
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Detached from all things, connected to all life
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2013, 00:28:10 »

The ego dictates, we are each, just one.
The truth is, we all are one in everything and everything is light.
Walter and Lao knew this. Their book, The Secret of Light, explains many things and its in their style of writing.
 The word is the beginning. The word is light.
I'll have to re-read this book. Maybe find some revelation from their genesis of words.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2013, 15:32:52 »

 ego check this out.
http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm
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Michelangelo’s painting of the Separation of Light from Darkness,
one of a series of nine Sistine Chapel panels showing scenes from the Book of Genesis.


Temple

[anatomy] indicates the side of the head behind the eyes.


Etymology:
The word temple means "place of worship".
Both come from Latin.
The word for the place of worship comes from templum,
whereas the word for the part of the head comes from Vulgar Latin *tempula,
modified from tempora, plural form ("both temples") of tempus,
a word that meant both "time" and the part of the head.
Due to the common source with the word for time,
the adjective for both is "temporal" (both "pertaining to time"
and "pertaining to the anatomical temple").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_%28anatomy%29



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Although the Bible is not literal and is allegorical, it contains elements of truth.

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one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all (Ephesians 4:6)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (John 1:1)
the kingdom of God is within you (Luke 17:21)

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' (John 10:34)
I have said, you are gods (Psalm 82:6)


You are God. God is all that is.
You are the observer and that which is observed.
You are both the dreamer and the dream.


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We act out perSONAs on our stage of iMAGEination.
We are both the dreamer & the dream.
I think therefore I am.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 18:35:27 »

A good series of explanations.

I didn't realize the word "religion" was basically about the shifting of one's loyalty from a secular lord to a metaphysical one.

One thing- you have a lot of sources here, and you try pretty hard to cite them all as you should; usually when there is so much cited material, it is best to use a structured system to manage it; generally what works well is to declare what source the material came from right before it is used, and to place the referenced fully in italics. I say this because I was a bit confused about what parts you wrote, and which were sourced.

But beyond that a good presentation!
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 19:39:25 »

Michelangelo painting of the Separation of Light from Darkness, one of a series of nine Sistine Chapel panels showing scenes from the Book of Genesis.
I'm confused, isn't the pics from "The Creation Of Adam"?
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 20:20:43 »



Yeah they are different panels; you can see from the above image the entire Sistine chapel, and the "Creation of Adam" is in the middle. "The separation of Light from Darkness" is the center panel three below it, which you can also see in the above image:



But yeah, I guess it is what it is, lol.
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