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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2011, 19:42:20 » |
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Actually, no one here is prtending evil doesn't exist. As Pauli2 stated, it is the people who end up in hell who are evil, and, according to his well thought out perspective, Satan is doing a good deed by punishing them. He's good.  If he's evil and the enemy of all mankind, then God is a bigger knob for creating such a being. While Satan is like an honest Tony Montana who says to God "you need people like me so you can point your finger and say: that's the bad guy", God is the one who tells porkies about the only angel who dared to oppose him, and a hypocrite in saying he had nothing to do with Satan's atrocities. He knew what the Devil would do! After all, isn't He the ALMIGHTY? Pfft! And how dare He have bets with his enemy in regards to predicting human behaviour in certain situations? But then again, it's poppycock, in my OPINION! |
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2011, 20:44:53 » |
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Actually, no one here is prtending evil doesn't exist. Yes, there is.  As Pauli2 stated, it is the people who end up in hell who are evil, and, according to his well thought out perspective, Satan is doing a good deed by punishing them. He's good. Grin Satan is evil by definition (provided above). That does not preclude an evaluation of his contribution to the Grand Scheme as 'good'. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2011, 21:27:32 » |
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There is plenty of evil well beyond this idea of natas.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2011, 21:47:39 » |
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Yes, there is. Satan is evil by definition (provided above). That does not preclude an evaluation of his contribution to the Grand Scheme as 'good'. Here's my definition of Satan: bovine excrement |
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2011, 22:59:38 » |
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2011, 23:04:19 » |
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Is satan good because he "punishes evil"?
Also satan was forced into hell by god for trying to overtake heaven? Maybe I'm wrong I havent read the bible or talked to much catholics.
Sounds pretty evil to me if he belongs in hell.
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 23:58:01 » |
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Also satan was forced into hell by god for trying to overtake heaven? The Scriptures are not crystal clear on Satan. From the Catholic Encylopedia; ...but both the early Fathers and later Catholic commentators agree in understanding it as applying with deeper significance to the fall of the rebel angel. And the older commentators generally consider that this interpretation is confirmed by the words of Our Lord to his disciples: "I saw Satan like lightning falling from heaven" (Luke 10:18). For these words were regarded as a rebuke to the disciples, who were thus warned of the danger of pride by being reminded of the fall of Lucifer.Most of what people hold is more folk tales than actual doctrine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DVinfernoLuciferKingOfHell_m.jpg |
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 00:59:17 » |
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Remember, Satan is an Angel.
Satan is the highest Angel.
So Satan is good.
A good Angel, who punishes all those evil, in Hell.
Lucifer, Light Bringer.
Let him in.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 22:18:01 » |
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God kicked his "teenage" son out of his house because he was a rebel...great parenting skills, lord! Do not contradict what daddy says because daddy is always right and never makes mistakes. Lies lies lies! On top of that, he sends his son to the worst place possible...under the bridge!  I say Satan is better! All hail Satan! He is my lord! I believe in him! It is my religion! You better respect my beliefs, Rudolph! I'm a devout Satanist so watch out!  |
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 22:50:59 » |
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One comment regarding christian mythology- Satan in the bible is not the same as lucifer in the bible. Two different characters, two different stories.
Satan=Saturn, the adversary
Lucifer= Venus, the light bringer (morning star).
The combination was made after Jesus was named God incarnate, and he needed an archenemy, since God 'unincarnate' couldn't have one.
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2011, 23:30:45 » |
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I believe in him! It is my religion! You better respect my beliefs, Rudolph! Summer, when and where did I disrespect your beliefs?  |
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2011, 23:30:26 » |
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You haven't yet...LOL! By the way, as I said before, I think it's all poppycock. Have you missed that or do you just sit there readings your posts 99% of the time?
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 00:46:53 » |
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By the way, as I said before, I think it's all poppycock. Have you missed that or do you just sit there readings your posts 99% of the time? I think know what you have posted. I do occasionally spend the time to go back and grab my old posts and store them in a separate file when I am actively engaged in the type of disagreement that might get me banned again... for a completely dishonest reason... again... and then dishonest people pile on and make blatantly dishonest claims about things I never said... and so on.... |
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2011, 01:43:56 » |
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I think know what you have posted.
I do occasionally spend the time to go back and grab my old posts and store them in a separate file when I am actively engaged in the type of disagreement that might get me banned again... for a completely dishonest reason... again... and then dishonest people pile on and make blatantly dishonest claims about things I never said... and so on....
Keep pushing dude. The only person who is going to end up banning you, is yourself. |
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2011, 13:09:15 » |
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Rudy...do you have a vendetta against Xanth, or something? Do you believe he's Satan (keeping to the topic)? |
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