What is it like to die? by Dr Atwater

[Alan McDougall]

As I am not sure where to start this thread I put it here

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The following material was excerpted from two of P. M. H. Atwater's books – "Beyond the Light:  The Mysteries and Revelations of Near-Death Experiences" (Avon Books, New York City, 1994), and "We Live Forever:  The Real Truth about Death" (A.R.E. Press, Virginia Beach, VA, 2004).  It is based on first-person commentaries from over 3,000 adult experiencers of near-death states.  To learn more about the near-death research of P. M. H. Atwater, L.H.D. access www.cinemind.com/atwater.

WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO DIE
          Any pain to be suffered comes first.  Instinctively you fight to live.
          That is automatic.
          It is inconceivable to the conscious mind that any other reality could possibly exist beside the earth-world of matter bounded by time and space.  We are used to it.  We have been trained since birth to live and thrive in it.  We know ourselves to be ourselves by the external stimuli we receive.  Life tells us who we are and we accept its telling.  That, too, is automatic, and to be expected.
          Your body goes limp.  Your heart stops.  No more air flows in or out.
          You lose sight, feeling, and movement – although the ability to hear goes last.  Identity ceases.  The "you" that you once were becomes only a memory.
          There is no pain at the moment of death.
          Only peaceful silence. . . calm. . . quiet.
          But you still exist.
          It is easy not to breathe.  In fact, it is easier, more comfortable, and infinitely more natural not to breathe than to breathe.  The biggest surprise for most people in dying is to realize that dying does not end life.  Whether darkness or light comes next, or some kind of event, be it positive, negative, or somewhere in-between, expected or unexpected, the biggest surprise of all is to realize you are still you.  You can still think, you can still remember, you can still see, hear, move, reason, wonder, feel, question, and tell jokes – if you wish.
          You are still alive, very much alive.  Actually, you're more alive after death than at any time since you were last born.  Only the way of all this is different; different because you no longer wear a dense body to filter and amplify the various sensations you had once regarded as the only valid indicators of what constitutes life.  You had always been taught one has to wear a body to live.
          If you expect to die when you die you will be disappointed.
          The only thing dying does is help you release, slough off, and discard the "jacket" you once wore (more commonly referred to as a body).
          When you die you lose your body.
          That's all there is to it.
          Nothing else is lost.
          You are not your body.  It is just something you wear for a while, because living in the earth-plane is infinitely more meaningful and more involved if you are encased in its trappings and subject to its rules.
WHAT DEATH IS
          There is a step-up of energy at the moment of death, an increase in speed as if you are suddenly vibrating faster than before.
          Using radio as an analogy, this speed-up is comparable to having lived all your life at a certain radio frequency when all of a sudden someone or something comes along and flips the dial.  That flip shifts you to another, higher wavelength. The original frequency where you once existed is still there.  It did not change. Everything is still just the same as it was.  Only you changed, only you speeded up to allow entry into the next radio frequency on the dial.
          As is true with all radios and radio stations, there can be bleed-overs or distortions of transmission signals due to interference patterns.  These can allow or force frequencies to coexist or commingle for indefinite periods of time.  Normally, most shifts up the dial are fast and efficient; but, occasionally, one can run into interference, perhaps from a strong emotion, a sense of duty, or a need to fulfill a vow, or keep a promise.  This interference could allow coexistence of frequencies for a few seconds, days, or even years (perhaps explaining hauntings); but, sooner or later, eventually, every given vibrational frequency will seek out or be nudged to where it belongs.
          You fit your particular spot on the dial by your speed of vibration.  You cannot coexist forever where you do not belong.
          Who can say how many spots there are on the dial or how many frequencies there are to inhabit.  No one knows.
          You shift frequencies in dying.  You switch over to life on another wave-length.  You are still a spot on the dial but you move up or down a notch or two.
          You don't die when you die.  You shift your consciousness and speed of vibration.
          That's all death is. . . a shift.
 

[AmbientSound]

It sounds partially true, but I wonder about the more specific arguments of it.

Is that notch of ours shared by others? Does it depend on who you are? Does it depend on what you desire most? Are the vibrations we put out a coloring of the reality that we experience so that we get more of this and less of that? There are so many possibilities...

[Synergy]

It sounds partially true, but I wonder about the more specific arguments of it.

Is that notch of ours shared by others? Does it depend on who you are? Does it depend on what you desire most? Are the vibrations we put out a coloring of the reality that we experience so that we get more of this and less of that? There are so many possibilities...

Vibration just IS. 

At the root of everything is vibration - and that is totally supported by science, and so is the fact that what we perceive as the physical world, is an illusion!  They are starting to glimpse this through science, that space and time even, are also illusion.  All that exists is vibration, frequencies - and even our separateness is an illusion.   When we project, we never actually leave our physical body.... as that would suggest that our physical body is the center of everything... and it's not.  We always exist on ALL levels - through the subtle bodies, and beyond as pure consciousness.  When we project, we don't GO there... so much as TUNE INTO there.  And when we die, the same happens, but our vibratory level is now in a state where we can not re-enter the physical at least in that body, as it has now lived out its purpose.  And there IS a purpose to everything, and every time we reincarnate, it is for specific purposes.  We are here ultimately to learn.

[Alan McDougall]

Synery

You said

Vibration just IS. 

At the root of everything is vibration - and that is totally supported by science, and so is the fact that what we perceive as the physical world, is an illusion!  They are starting to glimpse this through science, that space and time even, are also illusion.  All that exists is vibration, frequencies - and even our separateness is an illusion.   When we project, we never actually leave our physical body

I like a lot of what you state

What is vibration, does a soul vibrate, and does a spirit vibrate.

If your answer is energy it is most unsatisfactory as no one really knows what energy is, just what it does

And I also don’t agree with all Dr Atwater ideas on death, it is not a fun thing, it is the most serious thing we will face in our life and not nice at all. I who has been around the block and seen many people and loved ones die. Death is awful believe me

Woody Allen said he really liked the idea of heaven but hated having to die to get there

Alan

[AmbientSound]

I'm well aware of what vibration is and does, and the resulting interference patterns that occur when two or more vibrations interact. What I meant was, if we are putting off more than one vibration simultaneously, do we then experience more than one person, place, or thing simultaneously.

[Synergy]

I dont think that its possible to vibrate two frequencies at once... at least base frequencies.  My career centers around sound (sonar operator in the navy) - think of a guitar string... it gives off a base frequency, and then harmonics at equal intervals of that base frequency.  So the A string for example... tuned to 440 Hz, will give off 440, 880 and so on...

So in that sense, maybe we can give off harmonics of our base frequency, but it still is one discreet frequency.  Now, let's say the physical plane resides at 100 Hz (just an arbitrary number as the actual freqs must be insanely high... really)  anyway, and the etheric plane were at 105 Hz... then there is a cross over of 5 Hz difference where if you were tuned into say 103 Hz (raised our base vibration to 103), you might get snippets from both.  But this is just using basic sound and freq theory to try to explain something that is obviously much more complex.

Obviously our subtle bodies all have differing frequencies... and then the part of us that makes us 'US', has its base frequency as well... whether or not its possible to split into 2 or more 'tuners' I don't know.  Maybe the conscious is one and the subconscious is another... and that's why we can receive information subconsciously without consciously perceiving what we are receiving in that manner...

And.... the more I try to rationalize it all, it just keeps getting more confusing lol.

A little bit of hope though... after my Father died 7 years ago, I received a message on the answering machine, that was garbled and over 2 mins long.  It was left 2 days after my Dad died... it was a message from him! (instrumental transcommunication I do believe) I had to clear it up a bit on the computer to understand most of it, but in one part of the msg, he said "I can hear you, don't worry if I'm alright,... I'm ok"  - I had said I needed to know he was ok MANY times in those 2 days... and ALWAYS when I was alone!  Another part he said "When someone else dies on you, do not be scared, do not be -fraught- (? I couldnt make that word out totally).... Everyone comes home"   

Oh and vibration itself is not 'energy' but the regular and periodic, wavelike movement through a medium.  The medium is pure consciousness (of the creator... the one). Energy is what results from the force of the vibration when it is 'received'.

[Alan McDougall]

Synergy

A really good thought provokingl response I will give it some thought and come back with a reply. I agree with all of it , however.

Alan

[AmbientSound]

So anything that shares a presence and/or relationship is vibrating in harmony rather than in unison?

[Alan McDougall]

As an Engineer in the power supply industry I could use a good analogy to frequency vibrations of the souls

The transmission net/grid or system alternates at a specific frequency and to bring a previously dormant generator on line and safely into the system we must do the below:

It must be locked into the greater system or electric grid at the exact same frequency or disaster. I have seen a generator completely disintegrate by some silly operator trying just this. If fact we nearly lost the whole supply to the country.

Why is this important?. Think of attempting to jump from one moving train onto another train moving at a much greater speed than yours, you will be flung off

So maybe souls have vibratory frequencies and we can only access the souls that are at the same frequency as ours

Alan

[AmbientSound]

Perhaps we can only access parts of people. A vibration/frequency requires two extremities, two absolute states between which it oscillates. Perhaps one is able to access only those parts of people which fall into their range. It makes sense to me.

Do you think one can perceive anything outside of their extremities? Does what they perceive become the new extremity for them, taking place of the one before it?

[Alan McDougall]

Perhaps we can only access parts of people. A vibration/frequency requires two extremities, two absolute states between which it oscillates. Perhaps one is able to access only those parts of people which fall into their range. It makes sense to me.

Do you think one can perceive anything outside of their extremities? Does what they perceive become the new extremity for them, taking place of the one before it?

This vibratory frequency is experienced here in the physical dimension as well. Have you never heard someone say "We hit it off  the moment we met" or "I disliked that person the moment I set eyes on him/her"

There is a privacy bubble around everyone and if you don't know them well you can come into that private zoneand make both of you very unwelcome.

In our cars this bubble expands to embrace the whole car and some space outside it. Thus the hostilities we so often come across when driving on public roads (unfortunately)

Alan

[AmbientSound]

This makes sense, but it sounds more like a function of the mind, based on what it believes to be true.

We believe in the reality we wish to experience.