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Author Topic: Why there is evil and what is evil  (Read 5061 times)
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2009, 15:58:36 »

What no_leaf_clover is getting at is that we all have different standards as to what good and evil is. Most people base their morals in what they perceive to be good and evil, whether that perception is right or wrong. I think that war is a good example of this difference in perception and morals.
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2009, 21:59:41 »

Let me try to explain what entropy is in physics,  so that we may consider its opposite and what about it resembles common notions of "good."


Entropy is...

A loss of energy to the environment,
A loss of information (another kind of energy), or in other words dis-organizing something, scrambling it up.
The cause of inefficiencies in all machines for any purpose.
(Also, not scientifically, a lack of awareness!)


Before these things are considered "bad," though, it is the cause of separation, splitting things apart from divine inherent potential (union), into individual existences and experiences.  Thus "carving" space from the infinite energy source to make creation appear within it.  You would not exist if not for entropy creating voids.


So the opposite of entropy would be,

Gaining energy from the environment,
Gathering or re-creating information,
The reason and mechanism by which all machines are created in the first place.  (Entropy does not create machines that minimize work, rather it inflates the amount of work to be done)
The increase of awareness.


Gathering, organizing and using energy from the environment is basically what all of our technology does, and basically what humans do in order to continue to live.  To lose energy, organization and awareness is to increase suffering and eventually die.
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2009, 13:11:07 »

Nothing, because there is nothing to either "good" or "bad" in the first place.

Quote that to the victims of the Holocaust evil like good is a aweful reality of every day life
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2009, 22:13:32 »

a Holocaust survivor
a toddler who's had a toy taken from him
a man reading an internet page who is offended by seeing such a comparison
I can't control what any of these people think or feel, but I can control my own feelings.

Everyone knows many people talk the talk with philosophy, but rarely implement their beliefs to the full extent to their own lives.  Ie they partake in behaviors, ways of thinking and feeling, that seem to be at odds with the philosophy or belief system they profess to embody.  I cannot say that I am not such a person myself, and I would readily admit I have much work to do with various parts of my spiritual process.  But I still stand by my words 100% that there is no such thing as evil.  Or good.  In the ultimate sense.  There is pain,  but there are no hard rules how you much experience or interpret your feeling of pain.  There are evolutionary, biological, inherited implications of how you should interpret pain, but still no rules that you can't rewire your brain to handle.  There is no good in suffering, that I'm sure we can agree upon.  All I am saying is that there are many different ways to interpret and interact with the reality all around you, and many different levels which we can operate on.
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