Any Athiests here??

[bewarevileye]

I forgot to mention in Monroe's encounter with that being Monroe mentioned being submerged in water.  In the Quran, it says that Allah's throne is over the waters.

[RooJ]

I read somewhere a while ago that nothing is infact something, God is possible to exist out of nowhere, I find it hard to comprehend that he existed for infinities past.  Unless we don't have the faculties to understand how it is possible for him to just exist without a beginning.

Its very hard to comprehend, as humans we are born into what seems to be a straight forward linear world of time and cause and effect. Although the brain allows us to imagine things beyond this its usually attributed to fiction. Its important to realise that if a god exists, that can create anything, thats infinite in its control, then the current rules of logic and all the rules of the universe go out the window.. A god that created this universe with its rules, doesnt necessarily live by them. It may even be that beginning and end dont exist, that time doesnt exist, in the realms of gods.

Its this very inability to comprehend such complex thoughts, and the lack of understanding in general within humans that i think supports the need for being open-minded. For how can we close ourselves off to other possibilities if the very thing we supposedly believe in we're not even close to fully understanding or explaining.

[James S]

Thank you for clarifying Jeehad.
I actually do believe the Earth is where it is by design. The Universe is too intelligent for things to happen by coincidence.

Bewarevileye,
It doesn't matter how many times I see religious justification or interpretation of the word "fear" there is one basic fact that remains:
Fear is the opposite of love.

If God whatever God is chosen by a religion, ever speaks, even just once, about "fearing Him" then that is not a God worthy of following or believing in, because no matter how anyone may try to dress it up, you cannot ever love something or someone you fear - these two core emotions are polar opposites.

[Ryuji]

Thank you for clarifying Jeehad.
I actually do believe the Earth is where it is by design. The Universe is too intelligent for things to happen by coincidence.

Bewarevileye,
It doesn't matter how many times I see religious justification or interpretation of the word "fear" there is one basic fact that remains:
Fear is the opposite of love.

If God whatever God is chosen by a religion, ever speaks, even just once, about "fearing Him" then that is not a God worthy of following or believing in, because no matter how anyone may try to dress it up, you cannot ever love something or someone you fear - these two core emotions are polar opposites.

exactly - what seems strange that only in biblical times there was this boombing very audible voice, but now its only innerself or in your head type of thing 

[Apeman]

If the question is : Anybody thinking Organized Religion is a fake ?   Then YES i am an Athiest

I strongly belief in a Higher Force - Creator

If you look at the various different religions then you will conclude that they all focus on the same subject. Their prophets/disciples are the same etc. So what is the point of different religions in any way ?

Religion = Dogma

Anyway, my 2c worth


With Love

 

[Doringo]

Their prophets/disciples are the same etc

Really? Buddhists and Hindus and others all treat Jesus as a prophet?

News to me.

[CFTraveler]

Well, all the buddhists I know consider Jesus a boddhissatva, and the only Hindu I know considers Jesus an avatar of Krishna.  I don't know it this qualifies as them thinking of him as a prophet, but at the very least some of them consider him an enlightened being, as it were.

[MisterJingo]

If the question is : Anybody thinking Organized Religion is a fake ?   Then YES i am an Athiest

I strongly belief in a Higher Force - Creator

If you look at the various different religions then you will conclude that they all focus on the same subject. Their prophets/disciples are the same etc. So what is the point of different religions in any way ?

Religion = Dogma

Anyway, my 2c worth


With Love

 

I personally don't follow any religions, as I don't see there is a need for 'me' to do so. But I have no problem with people who follow or need to follow such a belief system (my wife is a practising Catholic for example).
I also don’t necessarily believe in a creator, it seems to me that most people’s perception of such a being is born from aspects of themselves projected onto whatever generates such evidence of ‘creator’ in their perception. I can happily conceive of a universe where physical death might not be absolute, but where there is also no creator or overriding coherent pattern or path. ‘Life’ could just ‘be’. People might argue against this, but the source of such arguments would be rooted in their own personal experience and as such would not be indicative of a greater truth outside of their own sphere of experience. I think we all have a lot to learn, and perhaps have a need to look beyond the structures created by societal preconception generated over the course of humanities history.