Religion sucks

[Enoch]

Yes...The majority that say they are christian i think really dont even know what it is...Its just so popular to be that its what they say. And you are right the ones who go tho church have a motive. And really have to be there because its popular or they are worried what everone else would think. Again there are christians who are just what they say too for them i have nothing but respect..It really is a hard path.

[BadCookie]

Yes...The majority that say they are christian i think really dont even know what it is...Its just so popular to be that its what they say. And you are right the ones who go tho church have a motive. And really have to be there because its popular or they are worried what everone else would think. Again there are christians who are just what they say too for them i have nothing but respect..It really is a hard path.

The majority of christians are brainwashed honkys, who only pray to some god so they wont go to the hell which the people who set up that religion created 

there are 10 steps in creating your own ideoligy its a powerfull tool

[Skeletor]

For what's it worth, every religion has its ups and downs.

Christianity - motivated a LOT of education and learning in the Middle Ages, but is currently the source of a lot of racism from the Religious Right

Buddhism - promotes spirituality, but preaches karma and a lack of individuality (nirvana)

Islam - Teaches humbleness and charity, but misinterpretations of the Koran inspire terrorists

In my opinion, it's just easier to avoid association with these groups.  Unfortunately, I can't really say much about other religions because my understanding of them is limited.

[Ryuji]

religion in the end is just someones interpretation of god, the source, the force etc etc.

one must find one's own personal truth in life, but remember you personal truth isn't always applicable to others.

do you make your own choices in live or are someone making them for you, are you actually living or
just following some book / religion / believe / person blindly ?

in the end who you are, what you believe in matters not, its the way that you progress or improve youself
and being in balance with youself and others....

an important thing to remember is that, yes that its easy to bad mouth something rather than being the
change it self than to see all their faults.

all ' holy books ' as it is still hold some good ideas that can follow and learn from if one is willing not to have one eye for
interpretation but use both eyes.

some people would find it surprising that the person they deemed as evil just because he/she seems to believe in nothing
or are different from their system can some times be more spiritual than they ever can or will be. just because he/she don't
conform to one system of believe or are not being able to categorize that person doesn't mean he/she isn't spiritual or
have no knowledge of what is 'right' or 'wrong'.

when one has attained enough truths from a system(s) to move away from its limitations is a necessity to attain a even greater
understanding and spiritual level.

from my experience things such as categorizations and systems only limits my growth both mentally and spiritually. I don't see myself fitting into a certain belief system anymore nor to any specific system for my truth comes from broad spectrum things. true knowledge
always comes from within it is how you apply this interlace that shows wisdom.

only you have the power to walk apon your path, only you can discover what is needed for the journey no one can
walk the path for you.

will you take the path thats laid out, the path that one don't have to question - jump in and just float with the others OR will you
start seeking out the truth in all matters, the path less travel the one thats full of difficulties.

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my 2c hehe

be blessed,
-R

[Enoch]

I like that Ryuji.
By the way HELL is real although i prefer underworld.

[*LightProtector*]

ok i think this post will end it lol 

GOD LOVES
GOD IS EVERYTHING
WE ARE GOD
WE ARE LOVE

we are just in a third dimesional world for a short time why not just enjoy it, even the bad

[Enoch]

Yup. We are in just one of many of the lords mansions.

[Vinter]

"Religion is a subtle tool for enslavement."

Christianity is full of extreme racist whites yet it has origins in Israelie Jews.
Islam is the religion of Peace yet they terrorize those who won't convert.
Judism teaches that the Jews are gods chosen people yet they have been kicked out of nearly every country and are constantly toremented.

I think I will stick to being an Odinist so I can get drunk with Baldr in the halls of Valhalla after Ragnarok :p

[Enoch]

 ODIN....You ever see the 13th wARRIOR?

"Religion is a subtle tool for enslavement."

Christianity is full of extreme racist whites yet it has origins in Israelie Jews.
Islam is the religion of Peace yet they terrorize those who won't convert.
Judism teaches that the Jews are gods chosen people yet they have been kicked out of nearly every country and are constantly toremented.

I think I will stick to being an Odinist so I can get drunk with Baldr in the halls of Valhalla after Ragnarok :p

Christians arent racist...ok well theres racists in every religion. But the problem is they are brainwashed. Be at peace with other people.Walk in there shoes and see why they are the way they are. Than forgive.. we all are part of the same ONENESS.

[Arn de Gothia]

The jews are not God's chosen people, the jews are the zionists chosen people.

[Woah]

Religion itself does not suck, but blindly following one type of religion does suck. You should keep your mind open, and make your own opinions.

[Enoch]

instead of rocking on religions learn what is necesary for us PAGANS to know about it. There are many very important details and even astral travels (see revelations) in the bible. many religions are just old pagan beliefs all dolled up to look less offensive or less mystical. Why but of course they cannot use pagan or witch holidays and ideas they burned and murdered all of us for so long it would not be right. 

[sagetab]

It is not religion that sucks per se: All the "Book Religions" advocate peace and love thy neighbour (and thine enemy)... it is the people who pervert the religion and use it for their own goals and aspirations, (like world dominance  ), that give religion a bad name. If EVERYONE were to follow the tenets of these religions... including tolerance, especially with us Pagans... then we WOULD have world peace... as these religions intended in the first place.

I was told, a few months ago, by my hubby's church elders wife, that there is NO WAY I can possibly be a Witch because I have too much compassion and kindness and love in me... go figure!!! Naturally I told her that that is BECAUSE I am a Witch... 

[Enoch]

Exactly. No one understands us. Except us. lol And really i dont care as long as im not hunted and burned at the stake. Even if i was it would just motivate me more...
I just dont want any of "us" to make the mistake of not learning from the bible(s) there is so much fact and so much that explains pretty much everything we would want to know. Some is violated and changed by councils and kings and whatever to make us better "scared" followers but in the end there is alot of fact to.
The secrets of the holy grail being one. And also John's Revelations is mostly an astral projection thats how he recieved the infromation he needed. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge (of good and evil) are also very important to know about.   

[sagetab]

Presactly... 

I was brought up in a very strict Christian home and was... believe it or not... a Sunday School teacher and evangelist at one stage... so I know both sides of the coin very well... and, naturally, have my own interpretations of the Bible... I cannot refute that the Bible is a very good teacher, if only people would just listen and not pervert the words to their own ends. (Theory has it that Moses and Hermes, the father of Alchemy, are one and the same person).

I believe in the tenet... what works for you is RIGHT!!! (as long as it is not EVIL... )

But here is something I received one day:

SPIRITUALITY VS.  RELIGION
Spirituality says that god is within us and that we don't need anyone else to make that divine connection for us
Religion says that we are separated from god and that we need "them" to make that divine connection 

Spirituality says that we are free to make choices on our own and that we must take personal responsibility for our actions
Religion says we must make their choices and act their way

The theme of spirituality is unconditional love
The theme of religion is fear and guilt

Spirituality does not require us to make donations
Religion has become big business

Spirituality says there is no hell, no judgment, no angry god... that we are loved unconditionally
Religion says there is a hell, god gets angry and judges us... therefore, we are not loved unconditionally

Spirituality says we are free to choose our own path to god
Religion commands us to do it their way

Spirituality says we go to god to lighten our burden
Religion has taught us to fear their god

Spirituality says we should not be ashamed of our sexuality... that it should be a sacred celebration of love
Religion has taught us to feel ashamed, guilty and dirty about our sexuality

Spirituality teaches us to honor and respect mother earth
Religion has told us to "be thou fruitful, multiply and subdue the earth"  I repeat... "subdue the earth"

Spirituality reminds us that we are one with god and one with each other
Religion teaches disunity and separation which is the opposite of god 

Spirituality says god is within
Religion says he is in heaven and that "they" are the only intermediaries for us

Spirituality says we are born in innocence and purity
Religion says we are born with sin 

Spirituality teaches that we are on a long spiritual adventure and journey which will ultimately end by reuniting with our source
Religion says we've got one life to get it all right and there is nothing but heaven or hell after that

Spirituality says we are free to express
Religion gave us the dreaded inquisition

Spirituality teaches unconditional love for all
Religion gave us the crusades in which many were killed and slaughtered in the name of god

Spirituality teaches that we should love one another unconditionally and always honor the rights and choices of others
Religion treated native americans, the mayans and other indigenous cultures as savage primitives who "must be saved"

Spirituality teaches peace and harmony
Religion has caused more wars and more killing than any other reason


Spirituality says respect all living things I never once heard any
Religion say stop slaughtering millions of trees every year for Christ's birthday 

Spirituality teaches us to have faith in ourselves
Religion teaches us to have faith in them

Spirituality says we have all the answers... that we can find them by "going within"
Religion teaches us that it has all the answers and only its answers are the right ones

Spirituality teaches us to search for the universal truths and our hearts will tell us when we have found them
Religion teaches we have no choice but to accept their version of the truth
 
Which one feels better to you? spirituality or religion?  Go to your heart for the answer it will never lie to you.
Original author unknown but appreciated


Again, it is what YOU make of it that makes your spiritual path what it is.

I hate the ones that go to church, don't even listen to the sermon, then go home and bash the kids or wife or get drunk.... you know what I mean... (my hubby is a classic example)!!!