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Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: BillionNamesofGod on February 05, 2005, 01:52:11
I've been reading about this topic for years,
but I've never seen any mention of Cannabis.

Has anyone had any experiences that help OBE with this drug?

It is supposed to be particularly relaxing or induce a relaxing state,
so I can only assume it can help?


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: EnderZ on February 05, 2005, 02:49:53
Been disscused here quite a bit.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16912

-En


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: bynarie on February 16, 2005, 15:17:50
From personal experience, smokin weed and trying to do an OBE do not mix well for me. One thing is that it WILL cause dependence and it WILL lead to a lot more problems with concentrating. I mean not if u've used it once or twice but when you start using it on a basis you will deffinately have consequences(whether good or bad). A lot of permanent zoned out feelings will occurr and you will notice this after a while. I havent smoked weed for like 9 months and I am still permanently "burnt".


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: Wells on February 16, 2005, 20:26:02
I've smoked weed and it has had a very bad effect on my energy body.  I'm still trying to get rid of a pretty strong attachment on my foot that appeared straight after I had a joint (the first in over a year).  I think it must have damaged my energy shield and let something nasty take hold.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: BillionNamesofGod on February 16, 2005, 23:34:13
Quote from: Wells
I've smoked weed and it has had a very bad effect on my energy body.  I'm still trying to get rid of a pretty strong attachment on my foot that appeared straight after I had a joint (the first in over a year).  I think it must have damaged my energy shield and let something nasty take hold.



jesus I never thought of drugs that could actually harm your energy body!!
 is that possible?!


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: Logic on February 17, 2005, 04:19:21
They can do harm, and they can do good.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 23, 2005, 20:18:58
hmm, how long is it you guys have smoked? because i have been an avid smoker for years..i am 18 mind you.  But yea i have had nothing but good experiences while smoking and projecting.  It really loosens up my energy and gets it flowing much better.  You guys must have had some schwag or something.  There is a big difference between bad and good quality marijuana.  The problem is you are aren't used to your energy being so free inside your body...there are no adverse affects to smoking and projecting or trying to, it just takes some getting used to.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: BillionNamesofGod on February 23, 2005, 20:47:01
Quote from: mrloki
hmm, how long is it you guys have smoked? because i have been an avid smoker for years..i am 18 mind you.  But yea i have had nothing but good experiences while smoking and projecting.  It really loosens up my energy and gets it flowing much better.  You guys must have had some schwag or something.  There is a big difference between bad and good quality marijuana.  The problem is you are aren't used to your energy being so free inside your body...there are no adverse affects to smoking and projecting or trying to, it just takes some getting used to.



18? !!!
So what projection method are you getting success with while on marijuana?

erm... so where are you getting this "good quality" stuff I wonder!

;-)


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 23, 2005, 21:10:28
lol..i use any method that comes to me whilst meditating.  also i grow my own because its the best you can get, anyways yea just go along with your normal meditation, trance, phasing whatever and if you just concentrate you will get past your boundries...i have been able to project since I was very little...it laid dormant until i was about 14 though and that is when i really started studying about it and realizing what i was doing.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: Sparkwielder on February 24, 2005, 01:06:05
I don't know if I would want to be a Guinea pig, especially since I am so new to this, but I was wondering how psilocybin mushrooms would work with AP, especially since I have read about shamans using them.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 24, 2005, 01:13:20
mushrooms too. they also work very very well with projection and dreaming.  but yea mushrooms difenately work with no problems that i have ever had and they don't have any adverse effects either =)


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: Logic on February 24, 2005, 04:42:53
Cannabis doesnt have a huge direct effect, but it offers some enhancment in thinking or sensation. Generally, psychadelics and hallucinogens show more definite results, though Im not reccomending anything, except if you try anything, take it slow and safe.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: Logic on February 24, 2005, 04:44:41
A lot of my friends who have bad tripped on mushrooms said its one of the worst things ever. The adverse effects are psychological, so a lot of drugs shouldnt be used if you are not balanced or not in a good mood.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 24, 2005, 07:19:39
yea..if you dont have the right mindset or mentality to taking drugs like mushrooms, peyote etc..then you will bad trip. it really is not a good idea to do those kinds of things just doing it for the sake of things


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 24, 2005, 07:20:38
also, every person is different; i dont consider marijuana and mushrooms drugs either


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: BlackRose666 on February 24, 2005, 09:46:10
Quote from: bynarie
From personal experience, smokin weed and trying to do an OBE do not mix well for me. One thing is that it WILL cause dependence and it WILL lead to a lot more problems with concentrating. I mean not if u've used it once or twice but when you start using it on a basis you will deffinately have consequences(whether good or bad). A lot of permanent zoned out feelings will occurr and you will notice this after a while. I havent smoked weed for like 9 months and I am still permanently "burnt".


For most people, weed is not addictive. I can say this too, because I could smoke weed for 6 months, and then not smoke or think about it for another year. I have ADD, so it helps me concentrate. I have smoked it since I was 13, and I will be 18 next month with no weed related probs. It also helps me ap by allowing me to feel the vibrations and the flying/floating feelings help me separate.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: mrloki on February 24, 2005, 19:41:38
yea that is how it helps me also, even though i do not have add.  you notice things much better when high


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: BlackRose666 on February 27, 2005, 06:48:39
Well, yes I see that too. I believe in using them for something important, not getting smashed or tripping.

With me, marijuana actually helps me in coordination, concentration and all that. I use other things like mushrooms or peyote to expand my mind when it comes to meditation or spiritual/psychic development.


Title: Cannabis and OBE/Astral Projection
Post by: NeoSaturn on February 27, 2005, 06:52:25
dude i have smoked some hard bud and i dont have any problems Ap ing, but when i smoke dirt it is hard to.