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2012 and The Transition of the Ages => Welcome to 2012 and The Transition of the Ages => Topic started by: sk8chik on August 27, 2007, 02:20:21

Title: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: sk8chik on August 27, 2007, 02:20:21
I'm only 21. I haven't even come close to realizing my dreams and I only have til 26!
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Sharpe on August 27, 2007, 08:43:03
Dooooon't worry about it, nothing's gonna happen!
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Domingess on August 27, 2007, 08:56:07
But you will be able to realize your dreams after that too. Or maybe in another life on another planet.

2012 will be big changes ,but good changes! :)

Don't worry! All will be ok if you will keep grow up! :)

P.S. There are 5 years left... That is a lot of time. There are so many people who die every day. And in every age. 3, 5, 10, 15, and yes- 21 too ...

So, don't worry but keep grow up. Because all your knowledge about spiritual things will remain forever! :)
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Sharpe on August 27, 2007, 17:04:34
whatever
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Stillwater on August 28, 2007, 21:29:49
Well, I would look at it this way- this whole 2012 business started with the Mayan calender, and a bunch of people, among them a minority of respected researchers, and a whole group of clowns, seizing this idea and making all sort of theories out of it; so the real thing to remember is that the only thing which significantly supports the idea is the original Mayan calender source material, regardless of what people are shouting back and forth about it.

I for one, am not convinced, but there seem two possibilities:

- The whole thing is a big misunderstanding, and people got excited over nothing; you survive past 2012, nothing the worse for it.

- Pandemonium ensues, the Pope is proven to be the Antichrist, it rains skittles, and we die; the mystical presentience of the Mayans "proves" there really is a spiritual realm, and we pass on to other planes, nothing the worse for it.

Now I think there very may well be some sort of spiritual realm, as the collective anecdotes and reasoning I have faced over the years implies its possible existence, but I don't think we need "2012" to prove it, lol.
Either way, you win!
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: ismusa on August 28, 2007, 22:35:28
I look forward to judgement day, I want to ascend.  The spiritual realm is better than the physical.  You may think you're just 21 and have a long life ahead of you but in reality, time flies by fast, before you know it you will be an old man very quickly.  After you become old and look back at your life you will think that life was like coming in through one door and leaving through another quickly.,
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Stillwater on August 28, 2007, 22:50:57
Or lady, if that is what you were ;)

sk8tchik --> "skate chick"?
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Jelal67 on August 29, 2007, 00:18:27
If it happens, it happens.

If it doesn't, doesn't.

I doubt you can change it.

If you believe it, accept it.

If not, who cares.

Simple as that.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: sk8chik on August 29, 2007, 03:16:50
hm.. I think good things are coming. I think it will be the ascension of the human race and def. positive, but I still love being here right now, and there is a lot I want to accomplish in this current state. I'm not scared of it, I think it will be positive, but I love this Earth how it is now and I have a lot of tangible goals I'm on my way to accomplishing.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Zephyrus on August 29, 2007, 08:02:54
I think a bit of skepticism is good. People tend to believe what others tell them. It might be a condemning Christian God, it might be Mayan End of The World. Truth is most likely very plain and normal.

It also might be a self-reinforcing delusion. We want the end of the world and we see signs of it coming everywhere.

I recall reading books from the 80's about how humanity would change before 2012. As far as I see, nothing really happened.  :?
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: sk8chik on August 29, 2007, 21:49:11
QuoteI recall reading books from the 80's about how humanity would change before 2012. As far as I see, nothing really happened.  huh

No way! There are humongous changes going on right now, on a more global level than ever before. Ecological terror from global warming and whatnot is finally being realized, American war and war in general is being confronted more than it was in the 60's with Iraq, and terrorism is at its peak, with Israel, the holy land, at the center of those attacks. There is no doubt that major changes are taking place. I feel change in the air, and I can see all the people around me experiencing transformations in their own lives.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Jelal67 on August 30, 2007, 01:17:49
I don't understand the whole debate.

I have better things to do with my life than ponder what will happen.

Either way, our concerns should be with the present state of the world.

If we are all on a path to spiritual enlightenment, let us walk it for its own, intrinsic value.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: FadeEsdrasX on August 30, 2007, 02:02:28
Its not the end
Its a beginning
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Stookie on August 30, 2007, 12:20:12
To say that a change is happening - well, of course it is. Things are always changing, never stagnant. We just fix our perception to a certain point and think things stay the same. People are constantly trying to hold onto the past.

So maybe the only change that is really occuring is in our perception. More people are seeing that the world is constantly changing and are accepting it.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: sk8chik on September 01, 2007, 04:19:20
QuoteSo maybe the only change that is really occuring is in our perception. More people are seeing that the world is constantly changing and are accepting it.

hm..that's definitely possible and another way of looking at it, but I do think that massive changes are occurring compared to even recent years. For so many things we've reached the midpoint of the parabola and are experiencing advancement in much higher magnitude than ever before. For example technologically, things were very stagnant for thousands of years, then came electricity and whatnot, and then ever since the computer our planet has skyrocketed technologically. The things we completely base society on today were nonexistent just 50 years ago. We're also experiencing this with political awareness, spiritual awareness (i think we've just reached midpoint there, what with new age western spirituality becoming bigger), and environmental awareness.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Magickist on September 07, 2007, 17:44:35
I seem to recall a similar conundrum about predictions of the year 2000. There was talk about a Revelation and a few other things related to the theory of 2012. I'm not exactly a skeptic on this since it's been stated by someone like the mayans and isn't just some rumor created by someone just because it was a new millennium.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Mydral on September 08, 2007, 16:25:07
Quote from: sk8chik on August 27, 2007, 02:20:21
I'm only 21. I haven't even come close to realizing my dreams and I only have til 26!

Change your mindset..... if you don't you will feel the same before you acctually die.
You should be ready to die every day (and no this is not emo). Just be ready with meditation etc.. Materialistic things mean nothing in the long run.

Oh and nothing will happen in 2012, at least nothing where you will die.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Blazewind on September 14, 2007, 20:41:53
Quote from: FadeEsdrasX on August 30, 2007, 02:02:28
Its not the end
Its a beginning
I completely agree with you on that one. 8-)  I think that 2012 is a beginning of something new, not an end at all.  I first learned of the whole 2012 idea while listening to coast to coast a.m.  I realize that alot of people don't put much credit into that talkshow, but I thought that some good points were brought up on there that one night.  After reading a little more about it, I have come to realized that this could be a good thing.  Who says the world will cease to exist at all.  I think it is quite likely that we will go on living almost exactly as we are now, except that we will be tolerant, enlightened and openminded.
I for one, am actually looking forward to 2012. :-)
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Awakened_Mind on September 15, 2007, 02:26:26
I think 'the end of the world' has been misunderstood. 2012 is a date for the end of time. If as humans we somehow mentally transcend time then it's the beginning of existence in eternity. Not just nothingness, they way atheists consider death.

-AM
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Embodied Words on September 15, 2007, 22:57:00
Perhaps in 2012 they'll be able to scientifically prove OBE's, ghosts, the astral, and stuff like that exist, and then people will have to accept it. So, the world will become more spiritually enlightened that way.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Blazewind on September 15, 2007, 23:20:46
Quote from: Embodied Words on September 15, 2007, 22:57:00
Perhaps in 2012 they'll be able to scientifically prove OBE's, ghosts, the astral, and stuff like that exist, and then people will have to accept it. So, the world will become more spiritually enlightened that way.
I have thought about the same thing myself.  It would be a much better world I think, if those things could be proven and become more mainstream.  When I think of the thiongs that are happening around us already, in the year 2007, some of todays events give me great hope that this will will happen in 2012.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Sharpe on September 16, 2007, 08:56:32
Quote from: sk8chik on August 29, 2007, 21:49:11
and terrorism is at its peak

You don't actually... BELIEVE... in that... do you?
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Old Dood on September 16, 2007, 09:50:17
Then there is this site: http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm/home.htm
By: Patrick Geryl
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Embodied Words on September 16, 2007, 13:18:45
If you can think things, and those things become real in the astral, then would it be a really good thing for the world to accept APing as reality? I mean, if more people do it, wouldn't the astral change? Just a thought.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Awakened_Mind on September 16, 2007, 14:03:38
Well I don't think proving things means anything. It's common sense smoking harms your health, but what does that change. It's either that we are to ignorant to realise the truth, or the theory I prefer, that we are not yet evolved enough to percieve reality.  In that view, it's not a matter of proving AP, which I suppose has already been done in studies on 'remote viewing'. I think to induce a massive global cultural change, it will have to come from within the human species, collectively. Proving this and that doesn't really mean anything if people don't want to listen to it.

-AM
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: sk8chik on September 16, 2007, 19:14:46
QuoteYou don't actually... BELIEVE... in that... do you?

Believing has nothing to do with it. Closing your eyes doesn't stop the genocide going on in Darfur.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Blazewind on September 16, 2007, 20:02:29
Quote from: sk8chik on September 16, 2007, 19:14:46
Believing has nothing to do with it. Closing your eyes doesn't stop the genocide going on in Darfur.
It is true that we human beings tend to close our eyes to the unpleasentness of life, and the world in general.  I think thart is some of what people hope for in regards to the 2012 prophacy.  It is certainly my hope that not only will humanities eyes be opened in ways they have never been before, but also that there will no longer be anything we need to close out eyes to at all.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Astir on September 23, 2007, 18:48:16
Hopefully one day time as we know it does end...but we persevere.
I can promise you, all life won't come to an end in 2012.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: astraluminated on October 04, 2007, 08:29:29
I read some prediction somewhere i think it was nostradamus. that spirituality will transcend science. I think something will happen, but not that everybody will die or anything, maybe some shift in consciousness and awareness. And a massive breakthrough in spiritual awareness.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Awakened_Mind on October 04, 2007, 10:09:20
Yes well I think truth does not succeed by slaying it's opponents, instead it waits until they die out. I've always seen it as a matter of time.

Jimi Hendrix said "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace". The knowledge from science is so often used for power.

Love to everyone :-)

-AM
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: greggkroodsma on October 04, 2007, 12:03:41
According to some studies done, time is rapidly speeding up.  You can actually realize this just by the inventions of the times.  Everything is getting smaller and faster.  You don't have to sit down and plan your meal and cook and clean, you can fast food it.  The cars are smaller and faster.  Appliances are quicker and easier.  I think we are scaring ourselves by bringing the future to us so quickly.  We see that what is happening is happening but we can't stop it.  Is 2012 a good place to stop?  The Mayan civilization stopped way before then.  Who is supposed to stop in 2012?  Did the Mayan people write on their calendars in the time they had that the earth would experience a cataclysmic upheaval that would cover all of the on-land pyramids in 2012?  Which one of the pyramids on this earth is under water yet?  How come the writings found with these pyramids are said to be from times long long ago?  Has there ever been an axis shift?  I believe the earth is being sqashed and in 2012, we will be psychically transported to Jupiter.
Title: Re: 2012 is too soon!
Post by: Awakened_Mind on October 04, 2007, 12:10:41
Jupiter is apparently supposed to become another sun in the galaxy according to the 2012 website. This theory I don't adhere to at all but I thought you might like to know. There has been many pole shifts and axis tilts.

-AM