So armageddon looms and it seems that there is no giant planet passing through our solar system... or indeed that the world is going to end! So what do we do? How do we help those who wanted it so much, to transgress past the point they thought there was no return from?
I think we should set up a website to accept all the very unhappy people that put their time and effort into making 2012 websites and Youtube videos. They will surely feel very embarrassed and a few may become severely depressed when they wake up the morning of the 22nd... then the 23rd... and so on.
We should call it Post Non-Apocalypse syndrome. Surely it's their worlds that will have truly ended... not ours.
This is epic
I feel like making it my endeavour to track down every 2012 Armageddon commentator and to give them a big hug... then offer to wipe the egg off their face. :-D
Seriously... what is going to happen to all the videos and websites?
If all of them were cancelled after the 21st... it would leave a huge gap in YouTube and the internet in general.
I heard recently that the hardcorists are saying that when looked at... the Mayan date is wrong.. .and that it's 2013. Would you believe it? lol
Websites like this...
http://www.december212012.com
The problem is that now something has to happen.
There's been too much energy (wasted energy) put into this for nothing to happen.
And that means that if something natural doesn't happen... someone will make something happen, or something minor will happen and everyone will point to it and be like, "TOLD YA SO!!"
It's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. As sad as that is.
We really do create our own reality... and we've created this.
Quote from: Bedeekin on November 20, 2012, 19:20:06
Seriously... what is going to happen to all the videos and websites?
Oh no! Maybe such a void would rip away all the cat videos with it!
Honestly, I've heard stuff, but I haven't been affected by it. I do like the idea of PNAS. Wow... and don't read that like a word. I hope no one is too disappointed if the same thing happens with all the other predictions... the world moves on, people try to save what face then can, then it's forgotten about.
It'll be interesting to see what comes of it :)
About a planet coming and hitting Earth... You start calling Pluto an asteroid and it suddenly starts acting like one. ;) Revenge of Pluto!
Things can still happen... people expect there to be a big leadup or something, like God is working up to his more expensive fireworks later; might just be that a giant solar flare comes out of nowhere and wipes out civilization on that day.
But it isn't my bet, lol... the date is sort of artificial, and only significant because people made it so.
Quote from: ChopstickFox on November 20, 2012, 21:25:21
About a planet coming and hitting Earth... You start calling Pluto an asteroid and it suddenly starts acting like one. ;) Revenge of Pluto!
lol
There is as much chance of Mickey Mouse hitting the planet. It would take a couple of years for pluto to reach here from its current orbit. I know it was a joke.
True Xanth... but I'm talking about planet Niburu really or rather 'the end of the world as we know it'. As in something significant. not an earthquake in Ko Pha Ngan or a group of jihadists blowing up a city etc.
I would imagine if anything significant happens it would have to reach some sort of 'world' acknowledgement otherwise it's a dead squib.
"well there may be something personal to an area of the world that does change their world as they know it" you might say
That's still grasping.
The beauty is this thread will still be here to post in on the 22nd of December... so we shall see. :-)
If anything, I believe that this supposed "shift" is occuring in a longer timeframe over, lets say, 100 - 200 years, and that its about evolving consciousness.
Its deffinatelly not about Nibiru hitting Earth :)
Some psychics have hinted though, that there will eb nuclear war in the near future. If that has to do with the Mayans and their calendar I have no clue.
If there is a nuclear war june of next year... and not in 2012... then it has nothing to do with the Mayan calendar.
Come on AteBits... be more sure of your opinions... you do have a clue. :-)
Haha well... I suppose I do. I guess I have a hard time dealing with beeing missinterpreted if I write certain things on forums lik this.
So if I write that again:
The nuclear wars that I don't know if they will come in the future has nothing to do with the mayan Calendar imo.
Enjoy your life. We have only 1 month now and hope for the best.
I believe I have my whole life left, and thats more than one month :)
Bedeekin I agree. Besides I'm the kind of guy who would take the jimmy Stuart approach and just like at something disastrous with a positive outlook."well I guess were gonna have ourselves a nuclear holocaust :-o..... Look at that mushroom cloud... :-D hey everybody come on over to the window!! :-D
Jk lol. But what's gonna happen is someone or some media thing... Idk will make another doomsday theory. I stopped worrying about this stuff a long time ago.
Ps: sorry for my grammar I'm on my mobile lol.
Hear is the 2012 web site http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/ If I had not already lived though a whole bunch of " the end of the world days " I might take this serious . The first that I lived through was 7/7/77 , all the big planets were lining up and it was said there gravity would tear the earth apart . In the mid 90s there were maps of most of North America flooded . On 1/1/2000 all the computers were to quite . Then 5/5/2000, something ( my 43 birth day ) A few "end of the world days " made by different preachers came and went . Now we have 12/21/2012 and Niburu . There are Mayan cal. that go beyond that date . On Niburu , and some kind of people living on it ? Its in deep space for most of its orbit . It would take a large power source to keep any thing going there . Unless they like it at 3 deg K ( -263 c ) desert rat
The "niburu" people were just one group in the whole 2012 thing. I don't think the mayans said anything about a returning planet/spaceship... that was Sitchin's (mis)interpretation, along with people who are trying to connect things that have no relationship to each other.
So even without niburu, 2012 will live on. There is way too much invested in it now. People will claim it was a peak in a slow shift we passed through and we're on the other side now, and find a way to connect it to future prophecies made up from ancient civilizations. 100 years from now someone will be preaching about the shift we went through back in 2012. It's never ending until the world really ends. And then someone will have gotten it right for once.
Well the Mayan's are basically laughing at everyone else... They aren't expecting an end of the world scenario. They do say in the histories that Quetzalcoatl (a god) will return... but this is thought to have already happened when the invading conquistadors landed on the shores... they managed to overcome the Mayans easy enough because they thought they were their returning gods - interestingly enough some say that the original Quetzalcoatl was a survivor of Atlantis... but that's another topic altogether.
Also... it is just the end of their current 13th Baktun (144,000 days)... and on to the 14th on the 22nd... and this is based on GMT timing... not on their tropical calendar... nor does it take into account that the Mayan calendar was based on a 360 yearly cycle and the fact we have leap years.
When worked out properly the actual true mayan baktun ended in 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImlYErwPnAg
Quote from: Bedeekin on November 21, 2012, 12:34:02When worked out properly the actual true mayan baktun ended in 2007.
so we've all been dead already for 5 years now, suspended in an astral Earth copy, and no one noticed ...
:-D
naah.. just a new constrained reality divergence.
Quote from: Bedeekin on November 21, 2012, 12:34:02
Well the Mayan's are basically laughing at everyone else... They aren't expecting an end of the world scenario. They do say in the histories that Quetzalcoatl (a god) will return... but this is thought to have already happened when the invading conquistadors landed on the shores... they managed to overcome the Mayans easy enough because they thought they were their returning gods - interestingly enough some say that the original Quetzalcoatl was a survivor of Atlantis... but that's another topic altogether.
Very bad poor joke, but if he does come back, I vote it should be as a dinosaur.
The fact that Francisco Vásquez de Coronado the conquistador 'converter' was mistaken for Quetzalcoatl confuses the scholars... because it goes a long way into showing that a 'white' man with knowledge well in advance of their 'tribal' ways who showed them building, large scale farming, social and economic structure turned up almost 4,000 years before he should have.
They are laughing at the 2012ers because of how ridiculous it is... as I am.
Dinosaurs is a good idea though... as long as it's not a procompsognathus dinosaur. :-D
Tiranosaurus fedex :-D
The Mayans made that cal. like 1000 years ago. I think they ran out of rock and planed to add to it later, but did not get the chance . As I understand the translation of the date 12/21/2012 it goes a time of great change , or interesting times , not the end of the world . On Niburu , I think Sitchin took some of what the Russian guy Celkouski ( not sure how to spell the name ) said on the planet Venus and the earths moon . As I remember he said Jupiter spat out Venus , when it went by the Earth the first time it created the floods at the time of Noah . The second pass parted the red sea for Moses . Then it assumed its present orbit . His story , not mine . desert rat
If you are really wanting to seriously understand the Maya... instead of relying on 3rd party interpretation these are some great books...
'Breaking the Maya Code' by Michael D. Coe
"Quest for Decipherment:A Historical and Biographical Survey of Maya Hieroglyphic Decipherment" George E. Stuart
and for a clear understanding of their religious and symbolic nature of their history...
"Cycles of the Sun, Mysteries of the Moon: The Calendar in Mesoamerican Civilisation" Vincent H. Malmström
"The Gods and Symbols of Ancient Mexico and the Maya: An Illustrated Dictionary of Mesoamerican Religion"
"Ancient Maya: The Rise and Fall of a Rainforest Civilization."
Nearly all the stuff written about the Maya that involve the 2012 prophecy is a load of rubbish... it really is.
I was thinking more along the lines of this :) : https://www.google.com/search?q=quetzaquatalus&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=69muUPz5F4Le9AS66YEI&biw=1296&bih=811&sei=8NmuUPSUKoTc9ATL4ID4Ag
For some shiggles I checked out some of the websites mentioned... It will be interesting to see what comes of this. Probably much like the election. Crazy ballistic complaining, people claiming to leave the country (ironically to Canada) then after the temper tantrum, move on to something else to complain about.
This end of the world talk has been going on numerous different times in various periods of history. This Mayan prophecy will not come true just like the other ones. This is why I don't like to read most spiritual books and none of the religious texts. It is fear based.
Just keep having OBE's and enjoying life. That is all you really need.
Well it will be interesting if NASA decide to release the results of this news on the 21st... if they had any sense they would..... :-D
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nasa-curiosity-chief-says-rover-team-on-verge-of--historic--announcement-100149962.html
LOL...
The historic announcement is going to be something like they have kind'a sort'a maybe found trace amounts of amino acids or other protobiont molecules in the soils, or something along those lines.
These things are thought to develop naturally and by inorganic processes, but could suggest a readiness for life to develop, or its existence in the past, etc.
Yeah... remember what happened with that ALH84whatever rock they found?
I'm sure most people have no doubt that Mars had or has some vestige of life on it.
In the words of Jeff Goldblum "Life... finds a way"
Yeah, nothing will happen. If you look at the actual evidence behind all the speculation and where the idea began its roots its all complete fiction :?
And if the world did end then thats fine, so be it. We will all live on in the next world. :-D
haha i new this story would of taken some kind of twisted turn after i had seen it announced on msn, honestly i feel pain for nasa their story will only be broadcasted to shift change
anyway shout outs to my fellow mesoamericans for New Calendar day, We have enough stone now
I saw this cartoon of a Mayan that just carved that cal. he stated " I run out of rock on 12/21/2012 that will freak out some one some day " desert rat
Quote from: desert-rat on November 23, 2012, 21:31:35
I saw this cartoon of a Mayan that just carved that cal. he stated " I run out of rock on 12/21/2012 that will freak out some one some day " desert rat
Hahah! Like it! :-D
Oh no, in a cartoon. That means toon towns a comin'. Where's Roger? That rabbits dynamite...
Like it :-D
I do not know the origions of that cartoon , but it was posted in several threads on this forum http://www.hipforums.com/modules/New/index.php its more of a 3 ring circus forum, but some of there posts are OK . desert rat
Here's a town just raking in the money from all the fear created.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242176/Bugarach-Town-set-survive-Mayan-Apocalypse-cracks-open-End-World-wine.html
I read in another article recently that the Police have closed down the area.
Quote from: Lionheart on December 05, 2012, 02:47:00
Here's a town just raking in the money from all the fear created.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242176/Bugarach-Town-set-survive-Mayan-Apocalypse-cracks-open-End-World-wine.html
I read in another article recently that the Police have closed down the area.
that's a lot of money for residents to stay a night. Someone is going to end up with a lot of cash, and a lot of people are going to want some refunds. :lol:
Imagine the 22nd... when suddenly the place will be back to normal and there'll be a lot of rubbish and toilet doings for the residents to deal with.
I am sure there will be riots or something. It's probably going to be the only city to be damaged... by humanity. *facepalm*
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 05, 2012, 12:14:39
Imagine the 22nd... when suddenly the place will be back to normal and there'll be a lot of rubbish and toilet doings for the residents to deal with.
It will be like "Woodstock" all over again! :-D
A little yellow bird?
:-D
URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT
It is dec 27 2012 repeat 27/12/12
It was a lie, the sky was an hologram, repeat the sky was an hologram,
They had been watching us waiting, we never had a chance, at the stroke of midnight the veil was dropped,
their planet loomed into our skyline, firey red,
We never had a chance, they swept through the cities sucking the life force of all in their path, the screams the screams, we will never forget the screams,
Just when we thought all was lost dub jytbyhtbn utjhrthb rgffdgggggtgb ttr rretre peat ddre peat vfgfgevrgvh it is our only chance repeat o r o ly cha ce
ok.. Sunshaker has finally gone supernova! :-D
Well at least we still have christmas.
Darn it... I was hoping it would be postponed until AFTER my wedding. :)
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 05, 2012, 20:00:34
ok.. Sunshaker has finally gone supernova! :-D
Well at least we still have christmas.
And a happy new ye!!...... daw.. :-( hahah
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 05, 2012, 20:00:34
supernova! :-D
honestly people are thinkin so in the box this is perfect for doin nice romance with your wife or man for that sort, take em out, do a gift, you wont ever be able to say hey i got u somethin for the end of the world lol
my girl doesnt believe in the whole thing, she knows in reality the end of the world could be tomorrow as in any day(which we both find to be even scarier) but all the hype still gets her restless and down with thoughts at times,
on the 22nd imma take her out and do the whole cheeseiness, least i could do, it'll be fun
I can't even see the box I'm so outside of it. :-D
Quote from: sunshaker on December 05, 2012, 19:57:53
URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT
It is dec 27 2012 repeat 27/12/12
It was a lie, the sky was an hologram, repeat the sky was an hologram,
They had been watching us waiting, we never had a chance, at the stroke of midnight the veil was dropped,
their planet loomed into our skyline, firey red,
We never had a chance, they swept through the cities sucking the life force of all in their path, the screams the screams, we will never forget the screams,
Just when we thought all was lost dub jytbyhtbn utjhrthb rgffdgggggtgb ttr rretre peat ddre peat vfgfgevrgvh it is our only chance repeat o r o ly cha ce
How did this get here :??
I've been in bed the last 2 days, migraine, dizzy spells.
Can somebody post with your profile?
Weird though, i had this same dream :-).
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 07, 2012, 02:01:32
I can't even see the box I'm so outside of it. :-D
Its pretty pink and delivered by dhl.
If you're lucky its got a bow on top.
:-D
I think people are looking at it the wrong way....
What does world end mean?
The destruction of planet earth or the destruction of the human race?because one leads to the other but the other does not lead to one.......say the mayan calender is wrong...and say the mayans predicted the earth to be destroyed in 2012...so since their calendar is wrong,it means the earth wont be destroyed in 2012...but does that mean the human race is safe?no...the dinosaurs were pretty much wiped out without any severe damage to planet earth...
So,my point is...both sets of arguments can be right at the same time...the mayan calendar could be wrong but the human race could also meet its end....this can be true since the mayans never specified what they meant by the end of the world...
Besiders,correct me if i am wrong...but werent the mayans extremely proficient at astronomy...?
So..lets put all factors together...
*highly accurate mayan astronomy predicts world end on 2012
*sun is predicted to have a solar maxima in 2012..that increases the chances of solar flares..
*earth is long overdue a major disaster...the yellowstone national park volcano is said to be at least 20000 years behind schedule...
*hollywood said so..:D..okay scratch that out.
*chineses i ching calendar reaches lowest poing in 2012..previous low points were during the two world wars...
So considering all these factors,its becomes easier to understand why people believe the world is going to end....
Quote from: Devotional on December 12, 2012, 15:18:08...the mayans never specified what they meant by the end of the world...
they never stated it would be the "end of the world", it's just the end of an era (on their reckoning calendar), that's all, why is the end of "an era" equal to the end of "the world"?
Exactly.
One needs to actually learn about the Mayan civilisation. it's not difficult... there are many books out there written by serious researchers and scientists who have spent their lives... not a few hours on the internet... but their entire lives (maybe not their childhood.. like when they were born to the age of 5) devoted the its study. Don't insult their intelligence or lives work. This is one of the reasons it vexes me. People with bad ideas, a huge imagination and a modicum of ignorance seem to have suddenly become experts.
Even that Mayan Shaman that talks about the LHC like it was made in a jungle has no authority on his ancient ancestry... he's just an old renegade shaman who doesn't speak for his culture.
If anyone dare say anything along the lines of 'We can't trust the scientists' you will instantly go on my list of people not getting a christmas card. :-D
But its not only the mayan calendar,is it?the chinese I ching and the timewave zero software all predict the same thing..that the world will end on december 21 2012....thats why so much importance is being given...calendars from totally different civilizations are basically predicting the same thing...that something disastrous will occur on december 21st..
The Mayan's didn't predict that it was the worlds end... So that leaves the chinese I ching calendar.
What are the other calendars you speak of?
Sorry,i should rephrase it...both the mayan and chinese i ching calendars end on the same day(december 21)...now,whether that signifies the end of the world or the end of an era depends on the line of thought taken by both civilizations...but i know this...that the chinese and the mayans ere extremely proficient at astronomy..and both of thier calendars end on the same day....maybe its the end of the world,maybe its not....but one thing is for sure...something major is gonna happen...
Quote from: Devotional on December 13, 2012, 14:47:39..both the mayan and chinese i ching calendars end on the same day(december 21)...
How can the calendar of the I Ching make a prediction on the same date if the I Ching is 1) not a calendar and 2) does not make predicions, in the first place?
Quote"What the I Ching is
The "I Ching" is an ancient Chinese system of fortune-telling1. It does not predict anything by itself, but rather describes a system of making predictions by casting signs.
What the I Ching is not
The I Ching is not a book of predictions. It does not make any predictions in and of itself. Since the I Ching describes a system of making predictions, the most you can say is that someone using the I Ching predicted something about 2012, which negates the claim that 2012 was predicted in the I Ching. And, that is exactly what happened.
The Prediction
Although the I Ching makes no predictions itself, it was used2 by Terrence McKenna in his "Timewave Zero" theory. This is where the assertion that the I Ching predicts 2012 comes from, and not from anything in the I Ching itself.
Conclusion
The I Ching makes no predictions in and of itself. Rather it describes a system of divining, of making predictions. The I Ching does not contain any predictions for 2012."
Source: http://www.2012hoax.org/i-ching
Further looking into the matter: the "Wen Wang Gua" is a system that combines I-Ching-divination with the Chinese calendar system. But still I did not find anything so far, so where do you read sth that correlates to the "end of the world" between a) these two and b) to Dec 21. 2012 of the Western calendar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Wang_Gua
Quote from: Devotional on December 13, 2012, 14:47:39
Sorry,i should rephrase it...both the mayan and chinese i ching calendars end on the same day(december 21)...now,whether that signifies the end of the world or the end of an era depends on the line of thought taken by both civilizations...but i know this...that the chinese and the mayans ere extremely proficient at astronomy..and both of thier calendars end on the same day....maybe its the end of the world,maybe its not....but one thing is for sure...something major is gonna happen...
I think it rather depends on the line of thinking of the rest of the western world.
The Mayans WERE proficient at ASTROLOGY and observing the bright dots in the sky!!! They didn't know they were planets, stars and galaxies... they thought the sun was a god... not a ball of Helium and Hydrogen... When are people going to see the difference between religion and actual fact? They did not attribute the stars as billions of lightyears away... like we know they are now. They may have seen this interesting thing happen where some of the dots line up... or when their sun disappeared... but we now know this means nothing about crops.. whether it's a good year for hunting or whether we need to sacrifice children and slaves to make a blood offering to our sun god.
Quote from: Volgerle on December 13, 2012, 15:12:00
How can the calendar of the I Ching make a prediction on the same date if the I Ching is 1) not a calendar and 2) does not make predicions, in the first place?
Further looking into the matter: the "Wen Wang Gua" is a system that combines I-Ching-divination with the Chinese calendar system. But still I did not find anything so far, so where do you read sth that correlates to the "end of the world" between a) these two and b) to Dec 21. 2012 of the Western calendar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Wang_Gua
thats true...but timewave zero which was based on i ching does predict world end...so you have an ancient civilization whose calendar ends in 2012 and a highily sophisticated software both predicting the same thing....maybe its a simplistic view of looking at things...but i believe something big will happen..
Oh.. you're a McKenna fan. I used to be one of those.
Terence McKenna's fractal time theory is based upon determinism which was popular at the time. Unfortunately determinism is an illusion.
But if you believe it fair enough.... time will tell. Doesn't look very likely though does it... the days are just trundling along and in 8 days you will know whether to trust your 'belief' or not.
I'm sure if McKenna was alive today to read Campbell's TOE, he would be forced to rethink his theory.
Hahaha I cant wait :-D
What happens with time zones?
Anytime after 9pm in say LA... Sydney Australia will be into the 22nd of December... maybe the rest of the world doesn't count. 8-)
China will be hit before the US... At least I'm not there yet until after this whole fiasco, hehe
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 13, 2012, 15:42:05
I think it rather depends on the line of thinking of the rest of the western world.
The Mayans WERE proficient at ASTROLOGY and observing the bright dots in the sky!!! They didn't know they were planets, stars and galaxies... they thought the sun was a god... not a ball of Helium and Hydrogen... When are people going to see the difference between religion and actual fact? They did not attribute the stars as billions of lightyears away... like we know they are now. They may have seen this interesting thing happen where some of the dots line up... or when their sun disappeared... but we now know this means nothing about crops.. whether it's a good year for hunting or whether we need to sacrifice children and slaves to make a blood offering to our sun god.
everything u just said is correct except for the part about it didnt have anything to do with crops
first off its really getting irritating that people still believe the end of a calender is the end of the world, the calender is the tool they used for scheduling just how we use it still to this day, simple as that!,
time isnt linear and even the mayans new that but the calender had to be a fixed linear pattern in order to actually work, this is where we get the end to the calender, if you want it to sound like a profecy or "divine", how much can u even say about the mayan culture, here
at the end of our time the people of corn shall be recycled/destructed just like the people of wood, dirt and stone before them and the sun will make an even better civilization and that shall surpass the people made from corn and they shall be the man of light to START the new Time.
there thats what a mayan would tell u especially the high preists, something along those lines, its called hope, mesoamericans were very spiritual
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they used these mathematical tool and natural coincidences to be able to keep track of certain events like the HARVEST, and especially the TIME TO START PLANTING new crops, that right there was very crucial, their calender was so accurate is was only off by 4 hours, AMAZING!!
if the mayans were soo good at predicting the end of the world how come we didnt see the spanish coming haha
Quote from: Mr.Flip on December 14, 2012, 00:16:27
everything u just said is correct except for the part about it didnt have anything to do with crops
I meant in today we know praying to gods has nothing to do with crops... but everything to do with weather.
I know the Mayan's worship had almost everything to do with crops. the fact they lived predominantly in rain forests and had a god called Chak... with a huge hooked nose I might add... tells us this.
They also used a 360 day annual cycle... and spent the other 5 days hiding in case the world ended. To them it was every year.
They also used a HELL of a lot of Cocaine. They loved that coca leaf. Maybe why they were so paranoid. :D
Quote from: Bedeekin on December 14, 2012, 03:36:14
I meant in today we know praying to gods has nothing to do with crops... but everything to do with weather.
I know the Mayan's worship had almost everything to do with crops. the fact they lived predominantly in rain forests and had a god called Chak... with a huge hooked nose I might add... tells us this.
They also used a 360 day annual cycle... and spent the other 5 days hiding in case the world ended. To them it was every year.
They also used a HELL of a lot of Cocaine. They loved that coca leaf. Maybe why they were so paranoid. :D
360 hmmm im goin to have to look that up again i thought is was just off by 4 hrs i know for fact that they had like eh i cant think of the word right now but its a time in the calender where they kinda reset it or i mean get it back on track it was like every 50 or 100 years anyway about the cocaine lol they had to stay awake somehow at night :-P
but i can agree that back then all they had was this mystical understanding of how the world worked n it was actually pretty accurate for their assumptions enough to be able to survive, the mysticism behind it was just a way to be able to unite their people and keep them calm or hype them up or even divide them, whatever was needed at the time depending on different social climates,
i mean cmon u know nothing of astronomy ur just a farmer tending to his crops so he can trade in the city for things he needs to keep his family alive and probably hopefully he can get his kids to be educated somehow by one of the high preists (which was and stilll should be an honor) anyway then one day a preist comes along or someone of upper authority and they tell you to sacrifice or to worship harder today orelse the sun will not recover and stay black,,, ha and a solar eclipse happens, id be shakin hard in my sandals eatin coca leaves prayin like a muslim and christian combined
Quote from: Mr.Flip on December 15, 2012, 10:54:57
i mean cmon u know nothing of astronomy ur just a farmer tending to his crops so he can trade in the city for things he needs to keep his family alive and probably hopefully he can get his kids to be educated somehow by one of the high preists (which was and stilll should be an honor) anyway then one day a preist comes along or someone of upper authority and they tell you to sacrifice or to worship harder today orelse the sun will not recover and stay black,,, ha and a solar eclipse happens, id be shakin hard in my sandals eatin coca leaves prayin like a muslim and christian combined
You been watching Apacolypto. :D
Just thought I would reinvigorate my my own predictive thread that absolutely NOTHING would happen. I was so sure nothing bad would happen. It wasn't belief... but down to pure sober headedness, logical reasoning and non-ignorance.
Besides... the people on this forum are some of the few people who would have the ability to see forward or at the least be shown a future catastrophe. But no one did.
Maybe this will be the beginning of less speculation and more action. It is pointless to sit around waiting for change.. change must be put into action. Nothing is going to save us from ourselves. Only ourselves. No aliens... no reverie or holy intervention... no ancient fantastical prophecy and no planetary alignment.
Too many people have been wishing for something to happen because they are feeling that the world has come to a tipping point. This is true. Like Lionheart pointed out in the 'COUNTDOWN' thread...
"For a second people everywhere in the World, regardless of race, color or creed, thought, "what if", if only for a brief second. That's exactly what it takes to change the World, people opening their eyes a little wider."
Now we must ACTIVELY change the world. Not wait for the next false prophecy in FEAR but create our own with LOVE and COMPASSION.
Amen! :)
well to all the people who went on about something happening must feel like right bunch of charlies now LOL :-D
You guys missed out on some awesome pyramid building. Better luck next time.
Mmmm, it may have been better for some. Our local roads were closed. 3 major incidents around lunchtime. The police only close off roads when someone is seriously injured or worse.
Strange day indeed.
The only real thing I've noticed lately (within the last day or two) is entirely about myself. LoL
Auras have become a lot more pronounced around people lately. No colours... just more intense. Kind of like the corona of the sun showing during an eclipse.
I used to see just a simple white outline around people, but now it's much more.
Quote from: Xanth on November 20, 2012, 19:31:21
The problem is that now something has to happen.
There's been too much energy (wasted energy) put into this for nothing to happen.
And that means that if something natural doesn't happen... someone will make something happen, or something minor will happen and everyone will point to it and be like, "TOLD YA SO!!"
It's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. As sad as that is.
We really do create our own reality... and we've created this.
When you said this I imagined crazy people doing something like a collective suicide, kind of: we are the new Jesus Christs and we are killing ourselves to save your souls. There are people for everything. :-(
Niburu , has missed 12/21/2012 , and to my knowledge no one has sene that planet . Its orbit may be a bit unstable making its path hard to perdict . We may haft to wight another 3500 years to see it . (lmfao) desert rat
:-) it was just another day
There is some very interesting things occurring right now in Torsion Field Research. According to scientists, we are experiencing some kind of galactic wave that seems to be intensifying. Right now it's effects can be felt every 9 days and that time frame seems to be speeding up.
Richard Hoagland was talking about this quite a bit last night, They were on a ship last night measuring this occurrence and had some pretty startling readings. They also found that HAARP was activated right now at it's highest level. I know a lot of people consider him to be a nutcase, but every major explorer in our History was by the populace as well.
I enjoy his passion to find truths.
Here is his website dedicated to his research.http://www.enterprisemission.com/mayantorsion.html
He is not alone in this though. Right now there are many scientists involved in this research at different levels.
Edit: I also wanted to add that I know many here don't like Richard Hoagland or believe a thing he says. When it comes to Torsion Field research he has just jumped on the Bandwagon. There was a lot of research on this being done before he stepped in it. The Russians have been researching this for years, they have also been researching Pyramids and their true purposes and have actually built over 150 themselves already.
Here is a link to that.
http://www.pyramids.ru/english.html
I wrote the makers of these a Email and actually sell a replica of their Pyramid in my Christmas Kiosk. So far the only people that have bought one are the ones that are in the know, like Reiki Healers and Energy workers. I only bought 5 and am selling them for the same price you buy them in the real Pyramids in Russia. I didn't care about making a cent off these. My goal was and is to share this technology with others.
On R. Hoagland , he was on coast to coast last night with Georg Nory , hear is the link http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/hoagland-richard-c/5605 Some times I agree with Richard Hoagland , but some times he makes statements that done agree with each other . I have no problems with some kind of life on mars . long ago . He did state that there are photos of small animal skeltons on mars . desert rat
Quote from: desert-rat on December 22, 2012, 13:36:24I have no problems with some kind of life on mars . long ago . He did state that there are photos of small animal skeltons on mars . desert rat
There are a lot of amazing things to be seen on the (offical NASA mission!) Mars pics if only one looks hard enough. Some might be tricks of light and/or so-called "pareidolia". I say might ... or might not. Some are even stranger than that. Really really strange. So he has a point imv when he says there might have been a civilisation on the surface eons ago. (Recently watched a talk given by him on the most recent Mars missions).
Quote from: Volgerle on December 22, 2012, 14:22:24
There are a lot of amazing things to be seen on the (offical NASA mission!) Mars pics if only one looks hard enough. Some might be tricks of light and/or so-called "pareidolia". I say might ... or might not. Some are even stranger than that. Really really strange. So he has a point imv when he says there might have been a civilisation on the surface eons ago. (Recently watched a talk given by him on the most recent Mars missions).
Like this most recent one from Dec 16th 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lh2j5QILOwo
What a coincidence, I talk about Pyramids and this show was on Television while I was working last night talking about Pyramids around the World and the unique energies they harness.
Enjoy, I am going to watch it after I post this here. I already know what's going to be said. My Dreams everynight confirm it! :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AK_1Q1sBWVY
Edit: Well that was fantastic! :-)
I just finished my busy chaotic exhausting Saturday at the mall, we were open from 8 am-10 pm.
I got home, MJ made me a sandwich then told me what she saw on TV last night. I knew today that no matter how tired I was, I would watch it.
They even very briefly talked about the Russian Pyramids that i have mini versions of in my Kiosk.
Thank You Multiverse. That was the greatest Christmas gift you could have given to me! :-)
Hopefully this will aid in opening some eyes.
why dont we just enjoy the holidays :-D
Quote from: Xanth on December 21, 2012, 22:17:52
The only real thing I've noticed lately (within the last day or two) is entirely about myself. LoL
Auras have become a lot more pronounced around people lately. No colours... just more intense. Kind of like the corona of the sun showing during an eclipse.
I used to see just a simple white outline around people, but now it's much more.
Happy days! :-) Doubt its anything to do with a new stone calendar though. More testament to your growing power and awareness :-)
Quote from: Stookie_ on December 21, 2012, 18:42:04
You guys missed out on some awesome pyramid building. Better luck next time.
You built a pyramid? im confused stook? :-P
I built a pyramid out of 1/2 inch couduit http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1v/R-100400405/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=1%2F2+inch+++cunduit&storeId=10051#.UNe20rS11yA , and set under under it , I dont remember if ti did much . desert rat
Quote from: Mr.Flip on December 23, 2012, 14:34:17
why dont we just enjoy the holidays :-D
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Nobody is saying anything negative here. What do you mean by this?
Quote from: majour ka on December 23, 2012, 15:30:20
You built a pyramid? im confused stook? :-P
Lol... I took that to mean the Annunaki, or the Mardukians, or whatever they are called came back and made some new pyramids with their spacecraft, sort of like last ones they made in Mesoamerica and Egypt, and only the true believers saw it.
Yeah, and Lionheart sells these pyramids in his/her christmas kiosk. Crazy times, that's all I can say.
Quote from: Lionheart on December 23, 2012, 00:33:50
What a coincidence, I talk about Pyramids and this show was on Television while I was working last night talking about Pyramids around the World and the unique energies they harness.
Enjoy, I am going to watch it after I post this here. I already know what's going to be said. My Dreams everynight confirm it! :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AK_1Q1sBWVY
How I love this show. And I'm happy that they finally report on the Bosnian gigantic pyramids. They are even bigger than the biggest in Egypt. Wow.
Quote from: rain_88 on December 25, 2012, 16:25:52
Crazy times, that's all I can say.
No, not crazy times. It's time to learn the truths that have baffled us for so many years.
It's time to do some serious research on Pyramids and not just all the speculation that has gone on. The Russians are way ahead of everyone else on this. They have found things in the Bosnian and the Egyptian Pyramids that they have "reverse engineered" and are now learning more and more about. One of those things, not found in the Pyramid, but is based on healing and energy patterns is a device known as the Scenar. http://www.scenaralliance.com.au/index.php
They are also leading everyone on Torsion Field Research. http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/tors/
Quote from: Lionheart on December 26, 2012, 01:31:51
No, not crazy times. It's time to learn the truths that have baffled us for so many years.
It's time to do some serious research on Pyramids and not just all the speculation that has gone on. The Russians are way ahead of everyone else on this. They have found things in the Bosnian and the Egyptian Pyramids that they have "reverse engineered" and are now learning more and more about. One of those things, not found in the Pyramid, but is based on healing and energy patterns is a device known as the Scenar. http://www.scenaralliance.com.au/index.php
They are also leading everyone on Torsion Field Research. http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/tors/
Okay, I understand that you don't get my sense of humor :). The links contain interesting info anyway, so thx.
Quote from: Lionheart on December 24, 2012, 00:41:38
:?
Nobody is saying anything negative here. What do you mean by this?
its time to designate some time to relax and enjoy this new world with others, loved ones, or sleep and use these school days off for practice in AP
we just had an Galactic alignment!
What kind of galactic alignment :?? Did I miss something?
There was no galactic alignment. There was a 'dark rift' alignment... but this happens every winter solstice.
I read something about a galactic alignment called "The finger of god" and how is it supposed to be faith changing and stuff...
well there is a 'Finger of God nebula'... but that is 8000 lightyears away and isn't doing anything special... to us anyway. It's an interstellar cloud of dust, helium, hydrogen and other ionized gases... but most nebulas are.
I also read about something to do with 2012 and how it was supposed to be the end of the world. Don't entertain everything that you read. :)
then what the heck happened?? obviously nothing
You better keep being on guard. It can be the calm before the storm o.O!
Quote from: rain_88 on January 29, 2013, 15:59:10
You better keep being on guard. It can be the calm before the storm o.O!
well thats already essential
Another '"end of the world date " has come and gone . Like I stated many times the Mayains just ran out of rock when they made the cal. desert rat
Well sooner or later we run out of this rock we call Earth .)...
Nah, we make loads of the stuff in Blackpool.
:-D
Quote from: Szaxx on January 30, 2013, 01:29:46
Nah, we make loads of the stuff in Blackpool.
:-D
Lol, I feel kinda safe then! Keep it up! :-D
ookay so what is the next doomsday date? :-D
Yesterday apparently. Complete fail... again.
comming next: 2029 asteroid Apophis :-)
Can't wait for that long....
But thankfully... there's no silly prophecy to accompany it... mind you... someone will twist and distort something to fit the bill. :|
Don't worry so much, I'm sure someone will come up with something for us to all fear in the meantime. Maybe even make a movie about it.