"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."
Albert Einstein
"Imagination is the beginning of creation. You imagine what you desire, you will what you imagine and at last you create what you will."
George Bernard Shaw
"Everything you can imagine is real."
Pablo Picasso
"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things that escape those who dream only at night."
Edgar Allan Poe
All these great men of history knew the importance of a creative imagination. Creative imagination leads to Astral Projection. You may start by simply imagining a scenario, but then somewhere along the line something happens that wasn't in your planned "script". The scene starts to take on a life of it's own and now you sit back and watch at first as your passive curiosity draws you deeper in. Pretty soon it's just a "real" as it is here in this physical reality.
This exercise is meant to bring you to this point. It is simple, but if you are serious you will find positive results with it. I know how many people say they can't visualize. That is why I have started with the basics of visualization, then as you get deeper into this "walk through" of sorts, you will find that it gets easier and easier to do. At first the visuals are hard to maintain. The tendency is to drift off onto some other day to day thoughts. But this goes away with practice. As they say "Practice makes perfect"!
I titled this the Doorway because that is the targeted object at hand. It is important in this exercise to take a few minutes to visualize (or try as you may) anything that you see in CAPITALIZED BOLD lettering. Example: If I ask is the doorway STANDARD SHAPED? You would automatically visualize a standard (rectangular) shaped door. You would then give yourself a few moments to visualize the door, before moving on to the next question.
This is not race. Take your time. Before we start I want you to make sure you are in a comfortable chair, not necessarily a bed, because I don't want you to fall asleep. Make sure your clothing is non constrictive. If it's too light in the room use a blindfold. If it's to loud where you are use some foam earplugs or noise cancelling earphones. Basically I want you to handle all your possible interruptions before they actually become interruptions.
I want you to just close your eyes and take a few minutes to relax. You can do this through a breathing technique, progressive relaxation, whatever makes you comfortable.
Now just notice the darkness in front of your closed eyelids for a about 5 minutes. Don't worry about "monkey mind" we will handle that soon.
You are in a dark hallway. There is a doorway about 10ft in front of you. You don't need to see it right now, just know it's there.
Is the doorway a STANDARD SHAPE?
Is the doorway ROUND?
Is the doorway OVAL?
Is the doorway LARGE?
Is the doorway SMALL?
Is the doorway GLOWING?
Is the doorway RED, like a FLAME or a APPLE? (You could use any other examples that you want to see the color red.
The same with the other colors as well.)
Is the doorway ORANGE, like an ORANGE?
Is the doorway YELLOW, like a BANANA?
Is the doorway GREEN, like the flowing GRASS in a field?
Is the doorway BLUE, like a beautiful CLEAR SKY in the day?
Is the doorway INDIGO, like the DEEP OCEAN?
Is the doorway VIOLET, like the glow of a BLACK LIGHT?
Lastly is the doorway WHITE, like the SNOW, the CLOUDS or even just a BRIGHT LIGHT?
Where does the doorway lead?
Does the doorway lead to the PAST? Now you are going to reminisce or as they say you are going to take a brief walk down memory lane. You are going to think back to a emotional time in your past. Was it the Prom? Was it your Child's birth? Maybe it's just something that you wish you had the chance to go back and do over again. Don't rush this process. Go back to the past and see this again. Emotional thoughts are very powerful thoughts and for that reason alone are easier to bring back up again.
Does the doorway lead to the PRESENT? What did you do today? Did you go out and visit friends? Did friends visit you? Did you just stay at home and watch TV? Relive something from the day. Make it as simple or complexed as you wish.
Does the doorway lead to the FUTURE? This is when you visualize what you wish to accomplish further in your life. See yourself achieve a major goal. Watch as your future kids are born. See yourself receiving that promotion at work.
Now, walk towards and through that doorway. WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE?
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If at any time during this exercise the visuals begin taking on a life of their own, allow your curiosity to draw you deeper. Stay with the scene. Passively observe it and allow it to progress. The more it progresses the deeper you find yourself in the scenario and further away you are from your physical focus. This entire exercise is built just to help you to escape your focus on "this" reality.
I have chosen these specific questions for a purpose. First the shapes are simple and one of the first things people are taught in visualization skills are to see basic shapes. The colors I chose because not only are they the colors that correspond to the "Chakras", but they are also the colors of a Rainbow. I know not everyone subscribes to the Chakra theories and techniques, but these colors are seen everywhere in everyday life. I chose white because of its cleanly divine meaning.
The Past, Present and Future questions are there because all three of these will give a person a chance to "lose themselves" in these visualizations. Many times when I attempt this exercise I don't even make it to the final set of questions.
I have other questions I ask myself when I do this exercise, like for instance is the doorway a CAVE OPENING, or does it have SALOON DOORS, like the old Westerns? Is it a BEADED DOORWAY? You get the idea. Have fun with it. Every question you ask leads to another intended scenario.
Please reply with any questions or comments you may have on this. The whole exercise was to show you the importance of imagination. Many times, it's your imagination that leads you to the "Astral proper"!
This will really help those of you who keep thinking about your body. Some techniques require a thought free mind which is very difficult if not impossible for a lot of practitioners. By following the above, you'll occupy your mind fully leaving no stray thoughts of the body.
I use a different. I use a similar approach and can exit this physical world sometimes in less than a min.
Try it until you follow it concisely, you should find it works very well.
I suggest sitting up, propped so you can't fall like on a corner chair or even my favourite, a bucket seat in my car.
Wow this is what ive been using everytime i have a successful astral projection! I imagine myself in a beautiful nature like seashore
Quote from: Szaxx on August 17, 2015, 08:59:44
This will really help those of you who keep thinking about your body. Some techniques require a thought free mind which is very difficult if not impossible for a lot of practitioners. By following the above, you'll occupy your mind fully leaving no stray thoughts of the body.
This was my goal. I had read many posts from members and heard it from others that they just can't seem to shut out the "monkey mind". So my motto is "If you can't beat it, join it". I wanted to make a exercise that anyone could do. The end intent is always to have a successful "outing".
QuoteI use a different. I use a similar approach and can exit this physical world sometimes in less than a min.
Yes, it's always welcome when you can just close your eyes and see that something is already "playing on the screen" in front of you. This is when all you have do is let your curiosity draw you in deeper. Nobody said it has to take an hour to be able to Phase. Sometimes it is just takes a minute or so. I find those times to be like a "perfect storm", whereas everything combines all at once to make a perfect outcome. You are already relaxed, your mind isn't busy with a thousand thoughts at once and you are mentally ready in general.
QuoteI suggest sitting up, propped so you can't fall like on a corner chair or even my favourite, a bucket seat in my car.
Especially when you are new to attempting projecting. It is sooooooooooooo easy to fall asleep. Thus any chair works fine.
Quote from: mon9999 on August 17, 2015, 10:10:08
Wow this is what ive been using everytime i have a successful astral projection! I imagine myself in a beautiful nature like seashore
Yes, when you look through the doorway you can imagine anything you wish to appear.
I make the intent often to see a beautiful island paradise, complete with white sands and ocean view. Many times when I am just lying on the beach I will take a glance around and there is normally something new that catches my eye. I then go to that new area and the adventure begins.
I find that at a some point along the line, my imagination isn't actively creating the scene at hand any more. Now I am in a place that isn't of my own design. These are great areas for exploration. That's why I say that your imagination will lead you to the Astral proper, if you let it. :wink:
You just describe exactly how i experience and do it! :-D :-D
I tried the doorway method this morning. It turned into a very small muddy cave entrance is I went with it. Once through this tight mess I was on a warm lake shore with a few people swimming. They tried to entice me in and after a few minutes of increasing my awareness, I jumped in. It was very different from the usual experiences. Almost a test of will I do it or not. I later met people I know who were having a good laugh at some physical world mysteries. They explained what was really going on and how no-one saw the truth in these anomalies.
Great fun. It took a couple of mins from being awake to being there.
That sounds like quite the adventure there Szaxx. Thank You for sharing! :-)
This afternoon our power went out. We were experiencing one of what I call the "land hurricanes", which is a spinning low pressure system over our area. We had just some regular rain here, but I'm sure someone nearby had a stronger storm, thus the power outage.
So, I went to my comfortable recliner chair and did a session. I started with a quick relaxation of my body, then started the questions. When I got to the second question on "is the doorway round"?, I started to notice the round doorway elevate. I stayed with that and soon the doorway became a rising balloon. I allowed my curiosity to draw me deeper and soon saw that the balloon had a basket. Soon there were other balloons around as well. They were all hot air balloons. I could see what they could from their vantage point. It was beautiful. We, I say we because it looked like I was parallel to them in my own balloon, were going over what I take to be some lake. I knew it was a lake because I could see the shoreline all around it. I don't know where this was though. We have lakes around here, but nothing like this one.
After awhile of enjoying this I started to get a strong sensation of moving upwards. The speed I was moving was incredible. I watched as the clouds, then the earth disappeared before my eyes. Next thing I knew I was in complete darkness. I felt like I was spinning in this darkness though. Though the sensation was very strong, I stuck with it. A light soon appeared in front of me. It got extremely intense. I could see I was moving towards it, but I felt like I was moving backwards. This made no sense at all, but again I stayed with it. The light seemed to engulf the entire scene. But then the power went on here and the TV, which we had on before, disrupted my adventure. It startled me and that was all it usually takes to mess things up. Needless to say, it was a great time.
When I finally looked at the time I saw that about 2 and half hours had gone by.
I also wanted to add that a ELEVATOR question also leads to some unique experiences. You get on the elevator and watch the numbers climb. Sometimes you will find that you will stop spontaneously on other floors. Here somebody or something might either be there or get on the elevator with you. Sometimes groups of people. Sometimes the door will just open and a vivid scene awaits you.
I find that the key to all of this, just like it is with Remote viewing, is to allow the scene you are viewing to progress without questioning what you are viewing or if what you are seeing is real or just your imagination. When you are successful, you will know the difference. Allow the scene to suck you into it.
With remote viewing the person has to just view what is there while knowing the difference between their "perception" and their "creative imagination". With astral projection you have the ability to join the scene and "live it", just like you do here.
The elevator sounds like a slow vortex experience.
You traverse through the levels and exit where you get the urge to leave. The experience has started and the fun begins.
There's quite a few authors that say speed takes you to the astral proper, this seems to work well. I've done this myself many times to get into an experience.
Quote from: Szaxx on August 19, 2015, 06:10:05
The elevator sounds like a slow vortex experience.
The entire Doorway exercise here will lead to a vortex experience of sorts.
QuoteYou traverse through the levels and exit where you get the urge to leave. The experience has started and the fun begins.
There's quite a few authors that say speed takes you to the astral proper, this seems to work well. I've done this myself many times to get into an experience.
The counting of numbers has always been a great way to quiet a "monkey mind" as well. So this kind of kills two birds with one stone and yes it does work extremely well.
The warp speed experience can also be known as Frank Kepple's "Cannonball" experience. It seems like you have been shot from a Cannon, lol. You just need to make sure your seat is in a upright position, keep your hands in the car and hold on for your life, lol. :-D
After dinner tonight, about 7:30 pm I laid down for what I thought was going to be a AP session. I know, I made the cardinal sin by lying down, but I was tired, so I figured it might turn into a nap instead.
I closed my eyes and just laid there noticing the darkness. I started to go under real fast, but at the last second when I thought I was almost asleep, I gained my awareness back again. So, I just noticed some more.
Somewhere along the line I decided to start a couple of the Doorway questions. I was already thoroughly relaxed, so it didn't take long until I got results. Actually I was on question a shape question, this time I was using a Square. The next thing I knew there was a lit square on the ground in front of me. It looked like it was some kind of "trap door" in the floor. So, being the Astral adventurer I am, I decided to take a leap of faith into it. I soon found myself plummeting downwards very fast. I watched as I entered the clouds, then on the other side of the clouds I saw a city of sorts. There were structures akin to buildings, but they seemed to be more like just huge towers. I could also see that other soldiers were also falling to the ground alongside of me. I guess I was some kind of Paratrooper. I have never been in the Military here in this physical realm, so this was completely foreign to me.
I landed and saw other soldiers running down the lanes between these huge towers. These towers did not look like our buildings here on earth. There was no lights in them. I couldn't even see a door anywhere. The soldiers didn't necessarily look like "our" soldiers either. They all had some kind of mask protruding from their faces going to a tank that they were wearing. I guess they could have been our paratroopers. That jump seemed to be from an extremely high elevation.
I got startled by a huge roar and looked in front of me in time to see what looked like a giant tail go by. I was thinking, what hell, was that a Dinosaur. It looked to be reptilian. It was scaled and the same shape as a Dinosaur's. More soldiers ran by me, but I decided I had seen enough for now. So, I returned my focus to my physical body and ended it. I looked at the clock and it was 10:15. Once again time flew by. I did not lose conscious awareness at all. I know this sounds like a "Dream". But I was totally aware the entire time. I did feel like I was just noticing the darkness before my eyes for quite a while though. It had already taken on the 3D effect. But it was relaxing, so I didn't have any intent to go anywhere else, until I began doing my Doorway questions later on that is.
This is the kind of weird, unique adventures that you can have when you learn to allow the scene to progress. You never know what's going to happen next and that's what makes it so adventurous. The funny thing is I don't find myself to be adventurous in this reality here. There is only so much you can do here!
Another thing I notice is I don't try to change the rules at all. Meaning, I play by whatever the physical rules of the scenario are. Now, I haven't tried to change them either. Perhaps that is something I will experiment with. I found myself falling, but soon found I was tethered to a parachute. I could have just flew faster by intent and explored on my own, but I wanted to stay with the scenario at hand and see it out.
What kind of chair are you using? I tried usimg chair but it feels uncomfortable and it gives strain on my neck and back..
Quote from: mon9999 on August 21, 2015, 02:26:23
What kind of chair are you using? I tried using chair but it feels uncomfortable and it gives strain on my neck and back..
Then find another chair! :wink:
I use my lazy boy recliner. It is very comfortable, but I rarely sleep in it. Some people like using a regular wooden chair, like a corner chair (as Szaxx has mentioned above) because it keeps them more alert.
Here is a blast from the past by Szaxx. In it he states what to do when these visuals do finally come alive. He also shows his amazing talent for Phasing and how fast it can be achieved using a strong NP focus.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/to_the_door_perfecly-t36502.0.html
I tried the doorway exercise. To start with, i noticed that my room was out of proportion. The door had a brown color, a golden handle, but it was not a standard shape. The top of the door was a semi-circle. It was not small or large, just like a normal door. Then i saw a bright light, very bright, shining behind the door. I opened the door and this light was..well...very bright. I couldn't see anything so i decided to walk into the light. I found myself in a landscape with a blue atmosphere, with sparkling dots in the air. There were also two giant spheres diagonally alligned next to each other in mid-air. Small planets they seemed. The atmosphere was amazing, blue. There were also trees and green grass but everything was pervaded with this blue color. I then decided to walk on one of the spheres. I flew on it and then i was sucked in a kind of vortex residing on one of those spheres. Then i found myself in San Francisco looking at the golden gate bridge. There were cars and i also saw skyscrapers...the typical atmosphere of a city...Suddenly i saw myself watching TV..a memory of the past. From here on, everything was a memory..i didn't flew back or didn't make my way back to my room. In all of this, i saw myself from a third person perspective...dissociated.
I know the title has changed and so did my technique here. But in the end it is still known as a technique to achieve a strong "non physical" focus. I think we should actually use this thread for all kinds of techniques people may have. It's a great way to share and help others here. It's also easier to keep one thread active than it is a number of threads based on the same topic.
I was just going through some of the posts and threads here that I missed in the last couple of weeks on the Astral Pulse Forum. I decided to play a bit of background music, so I went to favorites on my computer and accessed the link to Paul Collier's playlist. Then I went back to reading posts and threads here. Here's a link to Paul's playlist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ox2GzWnJw&index=4&list=PL48627FA5F1896833
Soon, I started to feel sleepy and relaxed. So, I paused for a moment and closed my eyes, while sitting at my computer. For some reason my left hand started to move gently, kind of swaying to the music. I relaxed further and now my physical hand had stopped, but my etheric hand was now swaying gently to the music. I watched this with a passive interest and my hand started to create balls of flames, then just bubbles. The bubbles soon began to rise. I followed them upwards and the next thing I knew I was spiraling upwards at a great rate of speed. I saw my home disappearing before my eyes, then the clouds, then I was in space and I watched as Planets were passing by. Soon I found myself in a very relaxing area devoid of light, sound or anything like that.
The last two weeks had been very hard on my physical body. I had been travelling and working 16 hour days, while not being able to sleep soundly at night for some reason, even though I was so exhausted. When I came back from this area devoid of light and sound I found that my body didn't hurt anymore. Whatever or wherever it was that I found myself, it was certainly a place of healing.
I do want to say though that at no time in this whole thing besides closing my eyes did I create any "conscious" intent to go anywhere or even see anything. I had just simply closed my eyes to relax and the next thing I know there was action all around me. I am extremely thankful for that healing though. I have been on Percocet for the last week to handle my pain and I detest pills of any kind. Percocet is extremely hard on the body.
Hi Lumaza,
I've already linked your topic in a lesson as it fits perfectly.
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/forums/how-to-phase-lesson-t754.html
I hope some feedback is generated from it.
It works well and I've used it a few times, each one successfully.
Quote from: Szaxx on September 15, 2015, 23:00:41
Hi Lumaza,
I've already linked your topic in a lesson as it fits perfectly.
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/forums/how-to-phase-lesson-t754.html
I hope some feedback is generated from it.
It works well and I've used it a few times, each one successfully.
Thank you Szaxx! :-)
In the end the goal is to share this info with those that wish to learn it. I hear so many people that say they "can't" AP, but I never see what it is they have actually tried. I stand by my belief that the more you practice just simply being "non physical", the easier it is to achieve it and hold that state. Whether it starts with a simple imaginary target or just closing your eyes to see what is already there. The trick is to passively key in on what you are currently seeing and to allow your sense of curiosity to prevail and drive you deeper. Next you have to "allow" it to progress. In other words, stay in the moment, for however long that moment wishes to be.
Today while sitting at my computer I began experimenting with the hand technique once again. I rested my arm on my chair with my hand extending outwards. I gently began swaying/moving my hand side to side and closed my eyes. After about a minute of doing this, I stopped moving my physical hand and began moving my "etheric" hand. Soon, I could feel the swaying so strong I was convinced I was actually moving my physical hand again. I stayed with this for about 5 minutes and my whole etheric body started to move.
Suddenly I received an enormous shot of adrenaline and I shot upwards again. This time I stopped the whole thing. All I wanted to do was just to experiment with the simple swaying motion. As soon as a full fledged AP begins, the swaying motion becomes unimportant and the new journey takes over the total focus.
Exercises akin to this can be done anytime of the day anywhere. I can hear people now groaning saying they can't do this. Well, I couldn't when I first began to AP either. Like I say in my signature, "Your will to succeed must be stronger then your acceptance of failure". Practice often. Don't give up just because you haven't seen immediate results. This is a "Art" of sorts and like any other skill or Art it has a learning curve. This is something you learn to "be".
Here are some of other threads that will help you understand and learn what it's like to be "non physical". I don't think the word non physical really applies to this though. You are experiencing a "etheric" physicality. This really helps you get used to being in another realm, so when it does happen consciously to you, you feel right at home.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_exactly_do_you_perform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/cycling-t45973.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/cloud_9_and_beyond-t44871.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/practice_but_practice_what-t39372.0.html
Actually this whole sub forum here "Welcome to Astral Consciousness" is full of helpful tips and techniques to achieve a strong NP focus. What you do then is up to you! :wink:
Here is a link to another type of focus. Very similar to the hand technique. I am going to experiment with integrating these ideas in some way.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/experimenting_with_a_new_technique_2_minutes_to_transition-t46112.0.html
Lumaza - I've had quite some success since you recommended the Doorway technique. How rapid my physical awareness starts to shut down and switch into the non-physical is astounding. I think it all has to do with becoming curious about the scenes that are whooshing around behind my closed eyes.
The part I've been getting stuck at is that everything I see still takes on the same color tone as I see when I just close my eyes and look randomly during the day, its sort of like a mauve, dark red/purple with flashes of electric blue to show highlights, which doesn't look realistic to me - although maybe I haven't gone far enough.
Also - when I try to picture the doorway after staring into the blackness for sometime, I can catch glimpses of it, but it always seems to be moving like my perspective is constantly changing, one second its on the right then it switches distance and is far down on the left, its hard to keep track of it. I am supposed to be "seeing" it in blackness correct? Not picturing it in my imagination.
Quote from: milk on September 26, 2015, 16:17:25
Lumaza - I've had quite some success since you recommended the Doorway technique. How rapid my physical awareness starts to shut down and switch into the non-physical is astounding. I think it all has to do with becoming curious about the scenes that are whooshing around behind my closed eyes.
The part I've been getting stuck at is that everything I see still takes on the same color tone as I see when I just close my eyes and look randomly during the day, its sort of like a mauve, dark red/purple with flashes of electric blue to show highlights, which doesn't look realistic to me - although maybe I haven't gone far enough.
Also - when I try to picture the doorway after staring into the blackness for sometime, I can catch glimpses of it, but it always seems to be moving like my perspective is constantly changing, one second its on the right then it switches distance and is far down on the left, its hard to keep track of it. I am supposed to be "seeing" it in blackness correct? Not picturing it in my imagination.
You are doing great Milk! :-)
The whole point of this technique is to learn how to "hold" a strong NP/other realm focus. Passively focus onto whatever occurs. If it's a color change, a moving scene, whatever may happen allow your curiosity to draw you deeper.
From my experience and others I have talked to that are using this technique, the more you practice this the easier it gets. But also the more bizarre it gets. Like I said above when anything starts to alter from your intended visuals, go with it. It will bring you deeper and deeper and soon you will have totally shifted your focus to this new reality.
Also, close your eyes often during the day to just see what is there. At first it will be just the darkness before your eyes. But after awhile of practicing the above Doorway technique daily, you will find there is a scene already there. Well, it's more like after you have been practicing projecting period for awhile you are more likely to just see something upon simply closing your eyes. This is because you don't have to prove anything to yourself anymore more. You have opened your awareness and now are reaping the rewards for all of your effort.
Now to your answers. The NP/other realms don't always look the same as this physical reality does.. In fact more times than not it is totally different that our current physical reality here.
I normally begin by imagining the "doorway", in all of it's shapes colors, etc.. I do the full cycle until something begins to happen on it's own, something I didn't "intend" on seeing. That's when I turn my focus completely to this new morphing of the scene or whatever is going on. That will always lead to something new and expected. A simple triangle or circle could morph into a full blown scenario, that's if you "allow" it to. :wink:
Here's another "hidden Gem" that I found in the Astral Pulse abyss. It's an excellent way to lose yourself in the moment.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_staircase_visualization-t37806.0.html
I think the doorway is an excellent idea. The doorway is written well. It gives people something to practice and to focus. I am sure everyone appreciates this thread.
Quote from: Astralsuzy on November 06, 2015, 03:44:55
I think the doorway is an excellent idea. The doorway is written well. It gives people something to practice and to focus. I am sure everyone appreciates this thread.
Thank You Suzy for your kind words. I created this thread after going through my Astral Journals and finding pattern emerging. The colors, the shapes, these are all basic things that I first experienced when I attempted to project consciously aware.
What a great thread! I have read on this kind of technique before but never found comprehensible and easy instruction such as this followed by great feedback! I am stoked to try this! Most of the ones I did were guided meditations.
Thank You Enigmatik! :-)
I tried to keep it simple. I experienced many of these visuals and simple geometric shapes my first times "out". That's why I figured that a thread like this may help new members and kind of rehash things for not only experienced members, but also myself.
Sometimes returning to just the simple basics is the kick we need to "unblock" ourselves.
read this thread a while ago and forgot about it thanks for bumping
im going to give phasing a go a bit more
my usual way to enter the NP has been from awareness in a dream or sleep paralysis ive never succeeded in actually crossing over from a meditave state or as im falling asleep
my main issue is im always so tiered with young kids wearing me out and keeping me up
so with early starts for work aswell at the end of the day i just tend to pass out into unconscious bliss lol
My approah is really close to yours Lumaza! I always let the scenario come to me and I never try to interfere with it (it would prevent me from going further at some point). I always end up in a different scenario on which I have absolutely no control over. Most of them, at least the most interesting ones are listed in my AP journal and I like to read them over and over again since i end up forgetting some of them or some details. I think it is the easiest way to reach the NP, everything is so fluid. I'll try the doorway technique, it will probably help me focus my intent instead of waiting for things to happen. I can succeed to phase in 15 minutes sometimes but I think this technique can lead to even better results. Thank you for your sharing your experiences, it's always nice to read people's AP's. There should be a pinned subject on people's most memorable experiences or a personal journal section for motivation. Nice technique for sure!
This is great Lumaza and should definitely help people AP. Lately my favorite way to AP is to imagine someone hugging me as we float in darkness. This way there isn't even a need to visually imagine anything. We just float there and I think how nice it is to just feel safe, warm, comforted. It usually only takes a few minutes for a scene to present itself and off I go.
But sometimes I just go to sleep which also works beautifully most of time. I'll just become aware already there. Like you I don't really try to control the scene. I tend to operate within whatever seems to be the guidelines that are in place. I find this to be far more interesting. Like for example, if I need to fly I WILL fly. I don't need to do anything. On the other hand if I try to fly when the scene doesn't call for it it's a failure.
I sometimes think trying to control a projection is why so many people have so much trouble.
For the past couple of months I have been working with 10 people extensively, off this Forum, that were serious about learning how to Astral Project from a completely conscious state, known a Phasing.
I didn't tell them about this or any other Astral related Forum. I actually asked them not to search the topic Astral projection period, because I didn't want them getting "tainted" from all the bad advise out there.
2 of the 10 quit when they first hit success. The "fear tests" were too much for them, even though all 10 said they could handle whatever comes their way.
The basic instruction I gave them was to just focus on 3 things. I used simple geometric shapes. But unlike the methods found in this thread here, I stopped at just a simple "square, circle and triangle" shapes. No colors needed. No looking for Doorways. Just simply holding their focus on 3 different shapes whenever they found the time to do it. Which isn't hard to do. You can close your eyes at "nearly" any time of the day to practice. (That was for all the people that can't find the "time" to practice)
They were to simply hold their focus on whatever shape of the 3 they have chosen at the time, for as long as they could. Nothing else.
The first problem they had is some couldn't visually focus. So, I told them just to "know" that that shape they had chosen was there and all of sudden the accompanying visual began occurring.
The next problem they had was they would chase, question and narrate their visual. Example: the box begins to morph into a different shape. Now, what's that shape? Is it a cat? Is this for real? What's a cat doing there? All I wanted them to do was to "passively observe" without judgement. In other words, the "left side" of their brain had taken over. To do this you need to use the "right side".
All 8 of them had their first successful Phase shift and 3 of them actually ended up feeling that an actual separation had occurred.
Xanth always speaks of the importance of Focus and finding your own focus. I agree that strong focus is crucial, but sometimes people need a bit more direction that just saying that over and over again. Xanth please don't add a link to your "focus write up" on your personal Forum. I just want whoever should choose to try this, to use just this simple technique for now. Once they begin to have favorable results, they can choose any Focus target of their liking. But for now, I just want to keep it simple.
I chose this "3 shape" technique because I wanted to see what the results would be of having 10 people that were completely new to "conscious shifting" using the exact same directions to gain success.
I chose the "square, triangle and circle" because they are very easy to visualize. Also because basically they can be found in basically any form of physical material. As I knew, it didn't take long for them to begin to see the shapes taking on their own lives. At first it was holding the image of the circle. But with time, they got better and better and could hold their focus for much longer. This took longer than a day or a week though before they could actually hold their focus on one target for a length of time. They just didn't get discourage and gave up, like so many others do. They saw it through and "trusted" that it would work. I'm sure they had their doubts though, like so many of us do when we are find this Art challenging. I use the word Art often to describe "Astral Projection" because the word Art, according to the Dictionary, is "a skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation."
Then it began to happen. The shapes began taking on their own life. They were morphing. At first, it was momentary fuzzy images. But in time it was full blown images, which led to scenes and then the feeling that they had actually "entered" their scenario they were observing. A couple of the people actually found a "mentor/Guide" as well. They were just simply focusing on a shape and then they heard a "voice". Just like all of new people to this Art, they immediately lost their focus and their session was ended. It happens. There is quite a bit you can experience that can and will definitely will "jolt" you from your current focus.
It is very hard to "consciously shift". I am not going to say this easy to do. But the "shift" you desire is a only a simple "shift" in focus away. You just have to get your "human conditioning" out of the way and "allow" it to occur.
Give these steps a try if you are "serious" about learning this. In time you can move up the entire "Doorway" exercise I began this thread with. But for now, keep it simple. Like they say" KISS" stands for KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
Practice often and learn to "allow" things to progress. Leave your "left brain" behind of now and just relax, release and let go.
I will return to this thread periodically to see what successes with this that you have found. Post your results or any questions you may have and I will try my best to answer them.
Have fun with this. Yes you can be serious about your intent and goal. But do not pressure yourself. Rome wasn't built in a day. Baby steps. A focused will and determination WILL lead to your success! :-)
Lumaza (ShuMan) ...
Good to hear that you are doing well enough to accomplish this kind of stuff.
The last time we chatted your illness had returned, and you were having some problems with your vision. So, I am relieved to see you here and that you are focusing on the things that you desire.
Quote from: Lumaza on March 21, 2017, 19:12:52
Xanth always speaks of the importance of Focus and finding your own focus. I agree that strong focus is crucial, but sometimes people need a bit more direction that just saying that over and over again. Xanth please don't add a link to your "focus write up" on your personal Forum. I just want whoever should choose to try this, to use just this simple technique for now. Once they begin to have favorable results, they can choose any Focus target of their liking. But for now, I just want to keep it simple.
I probably wouldn't have even posted anything on this thread, but now I *CAN'T STOP MYSELF!* :)
I have this neat link... hehe just kidding. ;)
It sounds like I don't need to post my link as you've already shared that bit of knowledge.
A focus is a focus. Whatever they choose to use, it's all good.
You're a good teacher. Continue the good fight sir! :)
If the technique provided of simple focus is working well enough maybe..... this is worth a sticky, even my brief reading through it all it seems quite useful.
Flush out all the information and techniques from later posts add them into the main one, add a bit more talk of focus being a key and renaming the thread if at all possible to better suit because just my opinion with the current title many people seem to pass it by.
Do a bit of that and I vote to have this thread possibly stickied.
Thank You Subtle Traveler! :-) Even in my worst times, I never gave up my practice. I did have to find ways to "modify" it though. I had "help" though. My Guides came through. I'm sure it is some kind of "test" on some level.
My Trigeminal Neuralgia is still there. But it has taught me so much. Pleasure through pain I guess! :-P
Here is a great "Healing Mantra" for anyone that wishes to use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdeR_sQnI3A
Thank You Xanth. I hoped you would understand. :-)
Phalanx, Thank You for the advise. But this entire thread is about "Focus". Focus is the key.
The links I gave earlier to my other techniques and pertinent threads here are for anyone that wants to actually see different or others forms of "Focus". All of them are good. So, they don't need to be included as a write up. People can follow those links if they choose to.
I don't want the thread renamed though. My initial Doorway tech works very good and I have received comments in PMs from the info supplied.
But there is so much more I wanted to say. I know a "Sticky" would help give it exposure. What I was waiting for was correspondence from other members and people hiding in the shadows, before I actually got too much more involved in this thread. There is no use writing a lot more here if it isn't going to be seen or replied to. I know how to Phase already. I am reaching out to others that are serious to learn, to teach them as well.
There are so many awesome things you can do, especially when you can really change your mindset on things. Like for instance, lose the body. When Phasing, you are just a point of consciousness. So, lose the body. It doesn't matter if you have to visually "unzip" your "Human suit" or any other way to mentally discard the body. But once you do the "other realms" can be quite exhilarating. You begin to view it just like you do from playing a "Car Race" game in a Arcade or some kind of game console. You aren't moving anywhere. There is no need to walk, because you are there with just a thought. This is when things get really cool.
Now put yourself in that Doorway or dark cave. Everything is coming at you. The funny things is if the cave halls turn, you still feel a "real" sense of motion. Actually the whole exercise will give you a very strong feeling of motion. Where that gets really awesome is simulating a Rollercoaster scenario/experience. See how long you can stay in that focus. It's very hard because you never know what to expect. Just release, relax, let go and enjoy the ride! :-)
I understand the point of focus, I figured it out when I connected my few experiences noted in other posts that when I was focusing away from the body or intently on something (which always happened to be an actual door lol) I came close to phasing/Ap/Obe but ended the experiences because back then I didn't know what it was and the fear factor made me think I was dying.
I think my request for more focus has to do with the doorway technique... My request is to use the term focus in the visualization parts more like in your post about teaching the 10 people. A lot of what I read in this thread until closer to the end focus is used when said if the technique is followed you will find your focus shifted to the non physical. How ever in the post of teaching 10 people you used focus often my request is to use in the visualization parts more like that...
Similarly I tried teaching a few people, at first it was a long winded technique with all sorts of stuff but after some time it fell to simplicity to basics. I used the the term focus more often and found they got better results. What I taught them isn't much different that what you have posted here.
I asked them to think/imagine/visualize of a door, but more like the shape technique... I stopped asking what kind of door it is or shape or size or color because I found if you start asking them some people said that it changed when the question was asked, like at first it was a ruddy brown oak round top door then I ask them what its shape and size or color was and then it would change and as though the person was now uncertain leading to the door to actively change size and such as they were trying to think "or pick" colors and types that it should be and the door reflected this. But just asking them to think of a door and not questioning it they come up with their own usually a door that was familiar to them because I would ask them later what kind of door it was out of my own sheer curiosity but it wouldn't change. And instead of telling them again and again to just visualize this door, I told them to focus on the door if your thoughts stray bring it back to the door and just focus on the door passively, that it will take some practice but sooner or later it becomes easy. Used the term focus as often as possible, just focus... and it worked far better than visualize, visualize, visualize.
I have my own issues with visualization/imagining at the moment which I might start another post for, but I am having problems with 1st person and 3rd person perspectives. As an example I do a visualization of shaking my friends hand, I can see myself or my body from a 3rd person view granted I have full control over it as normal I view it from the outside, and would very much like to take part in the scene actively from the perspective of my body. This does not pertain to dreams or lucid dreams those are always 1st pesron only when I am trying to actively visualize/imagine a scene am I stuck in a 3rd person perspective.
I'm so happy you are back, Lumaza! Two days before you reappeared, I was looking for you on the other forum. I started worrying.
It's amazing that your students succeeded with this technique. I agree, that Focus if so important not only for AP, but for any areas in our lives.
The following is a suggestion to everyone: Try focusing on the index finger of your right hand. You will see that within one minute you will start feeling sensations. That means your thoughts are alive, they interact with every cell in our bodies. They interact with all energy around us. They exist in all levels of the multiverse and can take our spirits anywhere. Think of your thoughts as the greatest tool you can ever possess. Many people think that thoughts have no measure, but they are wrong. If thoughts became suddenly visible in our reality, people will be very careful with their negative and scattered thoughts. They manipulate the unseen energy at all time and manifest into events, circumstances, etc at a later time.
Continuing Focused thoughts have extra strength and power, greater than any of us can understand at the moment. And I do love focusing on inner motion. It's my favorite technique. I never thought of roller coaster, but I'll give it a try. :)
Quote from: Phalanx on March 23, 2017, 20:19:52
Similarly I tried teaching a few people, at first it was a long winded technique with all sorts of stuff but after some time it fell to simplicity to basics. I used the the term focus more often and found they got better results. What I taught them isn't much different that what you have posted here.
I have tried teaching at a Community College in the past. I have also tried to help many people here via PMs and also a program that a 14 year old girl on Facebook created, named Destinies Plan. But it was rare that someone stayed interested long enough to put the patience, practice and perseverance that was needed to achieve success. Most of them got a "sneak peek" of what could be. But they all petered out after awhile. These people I am working with now are good. But like I said 8 out of the 10 are still actively pursuing it.
QuoteI asked them to think/imagine/visualize of a door, but more like the shape technique... I stopped asking what kind of door it is or shape or size or color because I found if you start asking them some people said that it changed when the question was asked, like at first it was a ruddy brown oak round top door then I ask them what its shape and size or color was and then it would change and as though the person was now uncertain leading to the door to actively change size and such as they were trying to think "or pick" colors and types that it should be and the door reflected this. But just asking them to think of a door and not questioning it they come up with their own usually a door that was familiar to them because I would ask them later what kind of door it was out of my own sheer curiosity but it wouldn't change. And instead of telling them again and again to just visualize this door, I told them to focus on the door if your thoughts stray bring it back to the door and just focus on the door passively, that it will take some practice but sooner or later it becomes easy. Used the term focus as often as possible, just focus... and it worked far better than visualize, visualize, visualize.
I think you misunderstood my directions. I am not there instructing them live. They have the "homework" of practicing themselves. My job was to just get the started. They don't know about the Doorway technique. I only gave them the basic 3 shapes to practice.
The Doorway tech is for people to use and question themselves. Shapes, colors, memories. All of those a "triggers". They all bring up a image. Think of the color red, Well, what was the object you "pictured"? Was it an apple. Think of a geometric shape like a square. Now you will find that your mind races to find something to associate with that square. The same goes with memories. Everything creates a association with some form of imagery, feeling or thought. This is what helps you to disassociate yourself from you immediate physical focus. Mind you at first it's only momentary, like a blink. But with time you learn to hold it longer. The longer your focus is "there", the longer it's away from "here". Thus you find yourself disassociated from your physical body at the time.
QuoteI have my own issues with visualization/imagining at the moment which I might start another post for, but I am having problems with 1st person and 3rd person perspectives. As an example I do a visualization of shaking my friends hand, I can see myself or my body from a 3rd person view granted I have full control over it as normal I view it from the outside, and would very much like to take part in the scene actively from the perspective of my body. This does not pertain to dreams or lucid dreams those are always 1st pesron only when I am trying to actively visualize/imagine a scene am I stuck in a 3rd person perspective.
Continue holding your focus on whatever you are in 3rd person and it will become a 1st person view. You say it doesn't pertain to Dreams. But it does. I have had many LDs that began foggily in 3rd person view. Somewhere along the line while staying same scenario at hand, it became a 1st person view. I constantly have this happen. The thing with Trigeminal Neuralgia is it can really mess up your sleep. That in itself keeps me a light sleeper. But, I have had many nights of staying aware right into my Dream sequence. Those were nights that the facial nerves were overactive. This actually happens quite a bit too, unfortunately. The good thing taught me Tibetan Dream Yoga and what the Shaman call "Dream walking".
A good example of 3rd person to 1st person is I will be some scenario watching a horse run. It looks like I am behind it. Most of my 3rd person situations start like that. Soon I find myself getting closer, until finally I am riding it.
I have had LDs though that during the experience I switched back and forth numerous times between 1st and 3rd person views. Only when the Dream simulation had completed, did I see what was going on. It was a scenario where one moment I was outside watching a scene, like from a movie screen, the next thing I was inside the house acting in it from a 1st person. Then it cut again to watching and back forth for the duration of the simulation. It was surreal and very entertaining.
Quote from: LightBeam on March 23, 2017, 20:37:00
I'm so happy you are back, Lumaza! Two days before you reappeared, I was looking for you on the other forum. I started worrying.
It's amazing that your students succeeded with this technique. I agree, that Focus if so important not only for AP, but for any areas in our lives.
The following is a suggestion to everyone: Try focusing on the index finger of your right hand. You will see that within one minute you will start feeling sensations. That means your thoughts are alive, they interact with every cell in our bodies. They interact with all energy around us. They exist in all levels of the multiverse and can take our spirits anywhere. Think of your thoughts as the greatest tool you can ever possess. Many people think that thoughts have no measure, but they are wrong. If thoughts became suddenly visible in our reality, people will be very careful with their negative and scattered thoughts. They manipulate the unseen energy at all time and manifest into events, circumstances, etc at a later time.
Continuing Focused thoughts have extra strength and power, greater than any of us can understand at the moment. And I do love focusing on inner motion. It's my favorite technique. I never thought of roller coaster, but I'll give it a try. :)
Thank You for your concern Lightbeam! :-)
Robert Bruce's "NEW technique" taught me how powerful movement of energy could be. I love creating motion scenes. When I first started to learn AP, I used the motion of rowing a boat quite a bit. Then I read Robert's "NEW tech" and I began using that. It is an excellent technique to use to defer pain. It also works great when you have a tickle or itch while attempting to consciously shift. That can be very annoying in itself.
I'm wondering if someday Science will find that this is caused by manipulating some kind of "Dark Matter" or something like it. I have studied the topic of "Torsion Field Technology" and see that it explains this very well. You are manipulating some unseen energy. This is really apparent in that technique that I wrote using the "Phantom Wiggle". (That link is back on Page one of this thread)
Quote from: Lumaza on March 23, 2017, 18:44:36
Thank You Subtle Traveler! :-) Even in my worst times, I never gave up my practice. I did have to find ways to "modify" it though. I had "help" though. My Guides came through. I'm sure it is some kind of "test" on some level.
My Trigeminal Neuralgia is still there. But it has taught me so much. Pleasure through pain I guess! :-P
Here is a great "Healing Mantra" for anyone that wishes to use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdeR_sQnI3A
fwiw ...
there are forms of 'high dimenstional healing' that can be used. This stuff is pretty fair out there for most people (I use one suggested by a former Arcturian physician in Tom Kenyon's book) ...
but honestly ... it really works ... the technique is fairly straight forward and my guides seemed to step aside for the other higher dimensional healers to come forth ...
let me know ... if you want to know more (if not, that's OK too)
If you have 8 out of 10 those are very good numbers, I come to find that in the end usually only a small margin of people tend to stick to it, some longer than others but the majority just plays with the idea and then slowly sinks back into their normal life.
I didn't miss understand the technique, what was meant was the shape technique but with the use of a door instead of a shape just happened to be what was picked and just always used it. It was a bit late when I had typed it up so I was off the mark a bit what I wanted to say.
First off. Thank You to the "Powers that Be" for making this thread into a Sticky. There is some good helpful info for those that are just starting and I hope to keep adding some other helpful tips to this thread as well. :-)
I just returned from a road trip to a Renaissance Faire in Oklahoma I was a Merchant of. It was a 13 hour drive, but it gave me plenty of time to think.
One thing I have noticed is that in the past 2 or so weeks, my ability to "visualize" at will has been a bit sketchy. So, I have been learning new tricks to "trick" visuals to begin to appear.
I would be just noticing the darkness in front of my closed eyes and then I would begin slowly mentally reciting the Alphabet. After I did the total Alphabet in order, if nothing kick-started a visual, I would then move on to mentally writing each letter on at a time. At first, my visual screen would be stay blank. But very soon that changed. Many times I would just continue to mentally write the letters, ignoring the "Hypnagogic Imagery" that was appearing in brief flashes. I did not try to "hone" in or "lock" in on the images just yet. As the images prolonged longer and longer, I soon did begin to lock on or hone in and soon found myself deep in some kind of fun exploration. You kind of learn when it's time to go "all out" and grab/join the visual or to just keep a "passive focus" on it.
I also noticed that certain letters that I was mentally writing created a "association" with some kind of pictorial or imagery. Example, F for fish. This is the same thing I noticed with the Doorway technique in general. Focusing on basic shapes, colors, etc. does create visual imagery associated with each of them. The same I find happens with the Alphabet/letters as well. This is a helpful little trick for you next time you may find a difficulty with a focus on visual imagery. The important thing is, even if you can't see it yet, just know its' there and it will soon appear. Many times I focused on a Doorway in front of me. At first, there was nothing there. But I knew it was there. So soon one appeared.
I hope this helps you! :-)
Hey There, I've been meaning to drop in on this sooner. I'm really excited to see you back I think we were all worried.
I tried your shapes, I chose the circle and interestingly no matter what I did it kept changing itself into a heart. I've had some shifting going on with this although nothing much to actually share at this point. One thing I have noticed is simple truly is best. Before this I did some work focusing on nothing but color. It takes work but I try to focus only on the chosen focus point while leaving behind any preconceived notions.
What I have found is the colors and the shapes will do what they do no matter what I think. And what they do rarely resembles what I would normally think. Like with your alphabet the imagery is off the chain. Once I feel like taking a break from the shapes I'll switch to the alphabet and see how that goes. I did have one full on shift that occurred right between the colors and the shapes. I think the exercises helped with that.
Glad you're back and looking forward to all your news. Hugs!
Quote from: Nameless on April 06, 2017, 18:30:11
Hey There, I've been meaning to drop in on this sooner. I'm really excited to see you back I think we were all worried.
Thank You for your concern Nameless! :-) Lessons are taught in many different ways. It's amazing how so many positives can actually arise from negative situations. :wink:
QuoteI tried your shapes, I chose the circle and interestingly no matter what I did it kept changing itself into a heart. I've had some shifting going on with this although nothing much to actually share at this point. One thing I have noticed is simple truly is best. Before this I did some work focusing on nothing but color. It takes work but I try to focus only on the chosen focus point while leaving behind any preconceived notions.
What I have found is the colors and the shapes will do what they do no matter what I think. And what they do rarely resembles what I would normally think. Like with your alphabet the imagery is off the chain. Once I feel like taking a break from the shapes I'll switch to the alphabet and see how that goes. I did have one full on shift that occurred right between the colors and the shapes. I think the exercises helped with that.
Simple definitely is the best. This whole practice can get pretty complicated. But I find that for people new to this or people well versed that find themselves "stuck", that following a simple "blueprint" really is helpful.
Never fight what it is morphing into. You usually know when to lock on though. Many times I have the morphing begin right at the beginning of the exercise. If it is strong/stubborn, as in your circle turning to a heart, then I will just go with the flow and continue to "allow" it to take whatever shape it wants. That's when your curiosity becomes a blessing.
I used and still occasionally do, use a focus on a "child's toy spinning top" to begin my visuals. Many times it would change into a "figure skater". That, I definitely did not expect. At first it caught me by surprise and caused me to lose my focus. But after a while I learned to just go with the flow and let it do what it wanted to. At the time though, the last thing I expected was that visual. The same thing occurred while in the shower one time when I got shampoo in my eyes and momentarily shut them. All of a sudden I found myself teetering at the edge of a raging waterfall. I immediately lost my "real" balance and almost ripped my shower curtains down trying to steady myself. At the time, I wasn't attempting to shift at all. I had just reacted to the shampoo in my eyes.. The shift was spontaneous. That was surreal and I realized from there on that for some reason I have some kind of strange connection to water and projection. I now lie in the bath for about 1/2 hour a day and to project. The water is very healing as well. It has helped me handle my chronic pain without the use of meds anymore.
The hardest part is basically not reacting to whatever the "morph" will be. Like you said, rarely does it resemble what you would "expect". But this practice in general (Astral Projection) requires that we put any "expectations" on the "back burner", at least for now. You can explore more once you get deeper into a scenario. I like to trust that I am seeing or experiencing what I need to see or learn. School is always in session there, as it is here in this physical realm as well! :-)
I like the spinning top idea although I have not tried that one. Shiver your timbers you could have had a bad accident in the shower with that one. I've had a few like that, fortunately I usually get a small warning before hand although not always.
I love that the water is helping you. Looks like you have found your element in a very real way. I can see that combination giving you a great boost in NP. I like that word - morph. They are never what you expect. I try not to react to strongly and mostly I succeed but sometimes it'll just knock my socks off.
I do sometimes have a problem. When I try to focus I will get a sinus like pulsing pressure. It's very much like a head cold feeling. Is that common? It can make it hard to concentrate.
Also interested in how your students come along as time progresses.
Quote from: Nameless on April 07, 2017, 17:07:04
I like the spinning top idea although I have not tried that one. Shiver your timbers you could have had a bad accident in the shower with that one. I've had a few like that, fortunately I usually get a small warning before hand although not always.
The "spinning top" works very good. :-)
It would have been different had I intended on seeing something. But what I experienced caught me completely off guard. The next time it happened, I was showering and closed my eyes just to find myself in the middle of a busy City street. Nobody was noticing me, but I definitely felt my "nakedness", lol.
QuoteI love that the water is helping you. Looks like you have found your element in a very real way. I can see that combination giving you a great boost in NP. I like that word - morph. They are never what you expect. I try not to react to strongly and mostly I succeed but sometimes it'll just knock my socks off.
My true Element is Air. But I work with the others often as well. Water brings in the healing and cleansing. I just kind of melt away in the hot water of the bath. It is very easy to lose my physical focus.
...yes, sometimes, it just knocks your socks off and blows you away. I find those times it's hard to hold the focus. Just when you least expect it ..........!
QuoteI do sometimes have a problem. When I try to focus I will get a sinus like pulsing pressure. It's very much like a head cold feeling. Is that common? It can make it hard to concentrate.
Is it just pressure or do you get a runny nose as well? I ask because your "sinus pressure" sounds to me like the onset of a "exploding head" signpost. I had that happen often and still get in once in awhile today. It always begin as a pressure. But I notice that I can create that pressure, if I wish, by just focusing on my 3rd eye location.
QuoteAlso interested in how your students come along as time progresses.
Still 8 on board. I just returned from a show, so I hope I still have 8, lol. I need to give them some new challenges. But I am walking them along very slowly. They have also noticed that they are remembering their Dreams more and a couple of them have had very vivid LDs. That doesn't surprise me though. Opening yourself to a "new awareness" has it's perks, as you already know, Nameless! :wink:
Quote from: Lumaza on April 10, 2017, 23:19:06
Is it just pressure or do you get a runny nose as well? I ask because your "sinus pressure" sounds to me like the onset of a "exploding head" signpost. I had that happen often and still get in once in awhile today. It always begin as a pressure. But I notice that I can create that pressure, if I wish, by just focusing on my 3rd eye location.
Still 8 on board. I just returned from a show, so I hope I still have 8, lol. I need to give them some new challenges. But I am walking them along very slowly. They have also noticed that they are remembering their Dreams more and a couple of them have had very vivid LDs. That doesn't surprise me though. Opening yourself to a "new awareness" has it's perks, as you already know, Nameless! :wink:
It's just pressure. I looked up exploding head signpost and got exploding head syndrome. LOL, who knew - but no that's not it. haha. Same here with the 3rd eye.
Glad to hear you still have them onboard. It should start getting real interesting for them soon.
I used to train new people in "Cold Call/Door to Door Sales". I had kind of a 3 week make or break prototype. The first week the new person did great on complete and total enthusiasm. The second week was a balance of enthusiasm with some product knowledge. For some reason though, the 3rd week was always just product knowledge and in 3 weeks you really didn't know anything, but the basics. This is when I either saw if they could see the error of their ways and regain that enthusiasm or were they just going to fall.
The same is with this practice in general. The people I am "tutoring" are now commenting once in awhile how this can be kind of boring. Just waiting for imagery to occur when you are new to this and being able to fully create a strong focused will can take quite a while. It used to take me an hour, sometimes longer to get not the zone.
So my new instruction for them was to start playing with the shapes they are seeing. My favorite way to do that is to "mentally" trace the outside of the shapes. Many times while tracing the circle, I will actually "feel" the rotating as well. This will be your first actual proof of some kind of "energy work" occurring.
You can stack the squares, you can move the triangles all around your "inner screen". Be creative. What this does is it improves your ability to create a stronger focused will and it helps you "lock on" to what you are seeing. In other words, it takes you more into "there" and further away from "here".
I know that regular practitioners of "non local states of consciousness" don't have to wait an hour for the "show" to begin. They have put the patience, practice and perseverance in their work and likely do that in every aspect of their lives as well. I have put over 4 years now into extensive practice and see that it really does pay off. It's like learning how to play Guitar or any other instrument. You must practice and practice regularly and often, usually for years, before you can excel at your chosen goal.
With this practice, you normally receive "sneak peeks" of what it can really be like, earlier on. You normally get enough of a "sneak peek" to either persuade or in some cases "dissuade" you from going further. Many people say they can handle their fears. That is until they actually have to confront them head on. The same thing goes with "ego". I notice if you don't reign your ego in, you will be taught to very soon.
Hello Lumaza, it is a fine technique you developed here, I was having difficulties focusing on it since I wasn't very visual at first, throughout the years I've learned the shapes come spontaneously in my mind and only then can the forms that you describe in the Doorway begin to take shape. I was not aware of those subtle thought processes leading me unaware into a state of no-being until I realized your technique was actually describing the pathway to ease my mind into progressively relaxing to accept the visualizations she would always come up with. It is indeed difficult to let go of all that noise and thinking patterns and ideas we sustain, but it worked just like counting sheep, meaning it would drag me unaware of myself into whatever I had previously focused my intent to be. The bright side is I can now allow myself to be drawn in deeper until the shapes start taking a form in themselves without me trying to control them and I saw them become the gate to launch into a wonderful experience, it was just like you said :-) It's nice to be back in the Astral Pulse, it's the first place I found had people very open to discussion and friendly, it's easy to connect intuitively with them.
I read in your work teaching people how to project and it's amazing you had such a great rate of success, I'd say two of the ten is a pretty low rate of failure lol watching your commitment indeed fuels me to want to become that committed to the Art too. I'm thankful since my guides show up everywhere and I'm always paying close attention, I could not sleep in bed comfortably not even in a million years without them.
There is also another you mention which you use to alleviate pain, this would be something that could help humanity it seems, in the Hand of Creation
Quote from: Lumaza on September 15, 2015, 22:38:19
Soon, I started to feel sleepy and relaxed. So, I paused for a moment and closed my eyes, while sitting at my computer. For some reason my left hand started to move gently, kind of swaying to the music. I relaxed further and now my physical hand had stopped, but my etheric hand was now swaying gently to the music. I watched this with a passive interest and my hand started to create balls of flames, then just bubbles. The bubbles soon began to rise. I followed them upwards and the next thing I knew I was spiraling upwards at a great rate of speed. I saw my home disappearing before my eyes, then the clouds, then I was in space and I watched as Planets were passing by. Soon I found myself in a very relaxing area devoid of light, sound or anything like that.
The last two weeks had been very hard on my physical body. I had been travelling and working 16 hour days, while not being able to sleep soundly at night for some reason, even though I was so exhausted. When I came back from this area devoid of light and sound I found that my body didn't hurt anymore. Whatever or wherever it was that I found myself, it was certainly a place of healing.
I do want to say though that at no time in this whole thing besides closing my eyes did I create any "conscious" intent to go anywhere or even see anything. I had just simply closed my eyes to relax and the next thing I know there was action all around me. I am extremely thankful for that healing though. I have been on Percocet for the last week to handle my pain and I detest pills of any kind. Percocet is extremely hard on the body.
when I would sit for too long in the computer I would have slight chest pains that would come during the next day, what I found is that the desk was unaligned with the pc up front, and this foreced me to turn my legs to a side a bit, so my body was turning even slightly to face directly at the pc, after months with this internet told it was my posture, so your technique sounds like it could help me since even now I don't realize when i'm slightly turning and I have had to use diclofenac potassium to alleviate the slight sharp pains in the chest area. How long did you practiced it before it worked for you? Thanks.
The cold call/door to door sales technique seems like it could bring some relusts to me too. I have trouble sharpening my focus "mentally" but it is nothing some months of commitment cannot solve, the "sneak peak" could surele be brough into real life to influence people to make certain choices, it remainds of Szaxx going about making people do his bid since he was a Kid, scary though. lol :-D
Quote from: Rakkso on April 17, 2017, 13:45:04
Hello Lumaza, it is a fine technique you developed here, I was having difficulties focusing on it since I wasn't very visual at first, throughout the years I've learned the shapes come spontaneously in my mind and only then can the forms that you describe in the Doorway begin to take shape. I was not aware of those subtle thought processes leading me unaware into a state of no-being until I realized your technique was actually describing the pathway to ease my mind into progressively relaxing to accept the visualizations she would always come up with. It is indeed difficult to let go of all that noise and thinking patterns and ideas we sustain, but it worked just like counting sheep, meaning it would drag me unaware of myself into whatever I had previously focused my intent to be. The bright side is I can now allow myself to be drawn in deeper until the shapes start taking a form in themselves without me trying to control them and I saw them become the gate to launch into a wonderful experience, it was just like you said :-) It's nice to be back in the Astral Pulse, it's the first place I found had people very open to discussion and friendly, it's easy to connect intuitively with them.
Thank you for your kind words! :-) I am happy to hear that you are finding success with this! 8-)
It works just like that. It's like tic tac toe or connect the dots. One part leads to the next. First you start with something simple to create a focus and pretty soon you have actually tricked a "shift" into occurring. Your initial focus is totally on the simple shapes and the next thing you know you aren't in "Kansas" anymore. You have shifted. Now the realization of that shift normally knocks you back to your physical focus, but at least you got a "taste" of what could be.
It really is that simple. We just need to get our Human conditioning out of the way and allow the process to progress.
QuoteI read in your work teaching people how to project and it's amazing you had such a great rate of success, I'd say two of the ten is a pretty low rate of failure lol watching your commitment indeed fuels me to want to become that committed to the Art too. I'm thankful since my guides show up everywhere and I'm always paying close attention, I could not sleep in bed comfortably not even in a million years without them.
Still 8 of them interested. We will see what next week brings. It's easy to fall off the wagon though!
QuoteThere is also another you mention which you use to alleviate pain, this would be something that could help humanity it seems, in the Hand of Creationwhen I would sit for too long in the computer I would have slight chest pains that would come during the next day, what I found is that the desk was unaligned with the pc up front, and this foreced me to turn my legs to a side a bit, so my body was turning even slightly to face directly at the pc, after months with this internet told it was my posture, so your technique sounds like it could help me since even now I don't realize when i'm slightly turning and I have had to use diclofenac potassium to alleviate the slight sharp pains in the chest area. How long did you practiced it before it worked for you? Thanks.
I first practiced "deferring" pain. Example, my back would hurt, so I would focus on my big toe. Other times I would begin my Tetrahedral point practice and that would take my focus right away from my physical body. Once deep enough, I just kind of "melted" into the 3rd darkness before my eyes. It took a while at first to totally close the pain down. I would say maybe a couple weeks or so of constant practice. But right off the bat, I received instant results, in that for the time being, I could temporarily shut the pain down.
With my Trigeminal Neuralgia it was all energy work/manipulation that would calm the spasms. For a time, I couldn't create a NP visual focus. That caused more pain. So, I had to learn to work around it.
Quote from: Lumaza on April 17, 2017, 14:08:24
Thank you for your kind words! :-) I am happy to hear that you are finding success with this! 8-)
It works just like that. It's like tic tac toe or connect the dots. One part leads to the next. First you start with something simple to create a focus and pretty soon you have actually tricked a "shift" into occurring. Your initial focus is totally on the simple shapes and the next thing you know you aren't in "Kansas" anymore. You have shifted. Now the realization of that shift normally knocks you back to your physical focus, but at least you got a "taste" of what could be.
It really is that simple. We just need to get our Human conditioning out of the way and allow the process to progress.
That's just what I was thinking, I would however not get a taste but in a sense I remember some kind of Visual took place and after I removed the curtains I was just in where I was supposed to be thanks to my previously stated intent, with my body asleep and the harsh groggy awareness I did managed to clear the experience with good memory recall, this seemed to be ok at that time.
Quote from: Lumaza on April 17, 2017, 14:08:24
Still 8 of them interested. We will see what next week brings. It's easy to fall off the wagon though!
I first practiced "deferring" pain. Example, my back would hurt, so I would focus on my big toe. Other times I would begin my Tetrahedral point practice and that would take my focus right away from my physical body. Once deep enough, I just kind of "melted" into the 3rd darkness before my eyes. It took a while at first to totally close the pain down. I would say maybe a couple weeks or so of constant practice. But right off the bat, I received instant results, in that for the time being, I could temporarily shut the pain down.
With my Trigeminal Neuralgia it was all energy work/manipulation that would calm the spasms. For a time, I couldn't create a NP visual focus. That caused more pain. So, I had to learn to work around it.
Failing is what makes it all more thrilling as well, one can only expect to give his best to succeed or fail miserably. I would play basketball as a child in school tournaments, and the only year we won I remember spending every afternoon practicing dunking balls in the park. Dunk by dunk by dunk is how I learned not to fail those 3 points under pressure. I swear I believed every drop of sweat spent doing that counted to make me like michael jordan, the magic missed me it seems lol
I read on the condition you mentioned, I didn't know that depending on the part of the nerves affect, even the Sun could trigger an active response of pain in the ocular nerves. Has light ever bothered you enough to attempt to project? I bought a regulator switch for my bedroom so I0 can gradually turn it very bright or dimly lighted. Of course it's still in the box though.
It is not clear to me how you can achieve that tremendous level of discipline-clarity and concentration to project, but don't need to know how, it just makes me think more people should practice AP or try to have any other NP experience in general to gain insights of themselves on the many levels of their beings. Thanks.
Quote from: Rakkso on April 17, 2017, 19:21:56
Failing is what makes it all more thrilling as well, one can only expect to give his best to succeed or fail miserably. I would play basketball as a child in school tournaments, and the only year we won I remember spending every afternoon practicing dunking balls in the park. Dunk by dunk by dunk is how I learned not to fail those 3 points under pressure. I swear I believed every drop of sweat spent doing that counted to make me like michael jordan, the magic missed me it seems lol
It's funny that you mentioned Basketball. Many members that know me here on the Astral Pulse, know that I often use a focus on just shooting a Basketball. It's one of my favorite techniques, (even though I wasn't much of a Basketball player in school or when I was younger. Hockey and Football were my preferences then.). I just mentally launch the ball that is in my hands at the Basket in front of me. The thing is, when I begin all I see is the blackness before my eyes. But I know the Basketball and hoop to shoot it in is there. Very soon, the accompanying visuals show up and then I find myself in a game of 5 on 5, with a whole crowd to boot, lol. I have had so many unique experiences using that simple focus. Rowing a boat leads to awesome things too. The trick is to just be creative. But any kind of activity based focus will also create a "energy" response to the scenario at hand, as well. In other words, you really feel the movement.
QuoteI read on the condition you mentioned, I didn't know that depending on the part of the nerves affect, even the Sun could trigger an active response of pain in the ocular nerves. Has light ever bothered you enough to attempt to project? I bought a regulator switch for my bedroom so I0 can gradually turn it very bright or dimly lighted. Of course it's still in the box though.
It is not clear to me how you can achieve that tremendous level of discipline-clarity and concentration to project, but don't need to know how, it just makes me think more people should practice AP or try to have any other NP experience in general to gain insights of themselves on the many levels of their beings. Thanks.
I wear glasses named "Theraspecs". They are great. They have a rose filter in them. They are also "wrap around" glasses. So they block the bright light from all angles.
When I do a serious Phase session, I will normally wear a blindfold mask. That completely nullifies the light. I sleep with the same mask on every night. It actually quite comfortable and doesn't touch the eyelids as well. When I first started to learn to "consciously shift", I had a bad problem, more like a hurdle I had to jump, that involved my eyes always feeling like they were opening just as the sift was coming to a peak. It was very annoying and just like any other hurdle in this practice, it needed to be passed.
Here's the website, if you are interested. http://www.dreamessentials.com/product-66/dream-essentials-escape-luxury-sleep-mask-with-earplugs-and-carry-pouch
Yes, you do need a lot of mental discipline and the ability to "think on your toes"
I agree. More people should practice this. The World would certainly be a lot less stressful! :-)
Today for my Phase session, I chose a simple square design for a my focus target. I did my usual quick progressive relaxation preparation and began to image a square box in front of my closed eyes. It took a while before I could get the image to stay. You will find that sometimes you can create vivid imagery right away. Other time, not so much. This was one of those times for me.
I finally got the image to stick and was getting bored just waiting for the 'morph" to occur. So, I began to play with the image. I began to trace the square outline and all of a sudden the square began taking a 3D design. My curiosity locked onto this and I stayed with the imagery. The square then laid down flat and now I saw that there was a landscape as well. But this landscape was in 3D as well. The visual was similar to what I had experienced years ago when I was playing Tiger Woods golfing on the Xbox and the game portrayed the green and lie as being 3D.
Now movement/motion starting to occur. I stayed with the landscape for awhile, just passing what I thought was really flat land, then it changed to rolling hills and soon began getting really awesome. It looked like I had hit a Ocean or Sea. The waves were kind of dancing in 3D, just like a flame dances when it burns. Soon I came across what looked to be some kind of tall grass field, but I was only seeing the 3D outline of the grass, which looked very cool.
Next I decided that I wasn't moving at all and that everything was coming at me and that I was only visually perceiving the motion. Now things got strange very quickly. The visuals sped up quite a bit and now I found myself in some kind of "Grid land". I had seen this place before years ago during a deep Phase session and I wrote about it somewhere here on the Astral Pulse Forums. Here it is:http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnels_and_grids-t38301.0.html
There have been a number of people here and on other Astral related Forums that have spoke of this "Grid land" as well.
The Grid land was moving at a super fast speed and it didn't take much longer until it overwhelmed and actually was too much for my senses to bear anymore. The session pretty much ended then and there. Total time, about 50 minutes. It did take what I perceived to be about 15 minutes before I could actual "lock onto" a simple vivid image. Most of that time, all I experienced was relaxation and the regular darkness before my closed eyes.
Now to the questions you should be asking yourself pertaining to your own experiences, so you can go on and add them to your AP journal.
What was your chosen shape or focus target?
How long did it take to actually be able to keep it in view?
Did you play with the design and if yes, what did you do to it. Example: turn it, trace it, stack it, etc.
What did it morph into?
What did you do next?
How long was your session?
...and lastly writing any extra notes on the experience.
All of those questions give you a chance to take more of a experimental approach to your practice. They also give you something to go back and learn from as well. :-)
I just returned from a show and was doing my afternoon Phase session/soak in my bathtub. It has become my favorite method of "NP exploration". At the show, I met some great people that are ready to learn more about this practice in general. If you are one of them now reading this, "Welcome" and take a look around. Be sure to check out the great "stickies" on this Forum. They are the threads in BOLD BLUE LETTERS.
My intent, during my session, was to just go to the void and heal, but instead, it quickly became a "training session" of my own. I was once again in "school' and that is why I am adding to this thread. My school, teaches me how to be a more efficient "Teacher" in this physical school here. So this is what I was told.
In the last months I have taken more of experimental approach in my teachings. I have had new members here that have PMed me for help and when they do, I put them through a kind of "vetting" approach that I have. I want to know how much they already know or have hear, what their experienced with this in any form, like Lucid Dreams, spontaneous projections, SP, etc.. Unfortunately some of the people have become "tainted" by all of the bad info out there. I also want to know "why" they wish to do this.
I don't and won't except the challenge to help everyone that asks. There is sometimes something in what I learn about them that shows me that they are either not ready, won't listen and seriously practice or in some cases have some kind of self imposed "block" that they need to work on first.
Some of them like to work on themselves at a spiritual level, some go for pure knowledge, some for purpose and still others for fun or once in while I hear to fight "demons". In hearing all of these intents, I can normally formulate a plan tailored to them. My only question to the Demon Hunter is "why fight Demons when you could help Angels. I can see that they have more of a "fear based" mindset. That will and does normally change though deeper in this practice. Unless of course they enjoy the "simulated video game world" they have created. I will tell you one thing though. The Demon Hunter certainly does have a strong focused will and will likely learn very fast.
I have worked with the Science minded, the "new aged minded", the UFO buffs, the adventurers and I have learned off of each and every one of them. They each have to approach this practice by something they are familiar with. Example, the Science mind must use a approach based on Science. With the "new Agers/Spiritual" based person, they normally will approach it by more a "energy based/chakra" approach and so on.
So to the Science mind goes an approach they can understand like the "Vehram program" or anything by Tom Campbell. They are used to long lectures anyways. So a 3 hour video is nothing to them. The new agers normally go along the lines of energy works, so I will use techniques built on energy manipulation based focuses, like Robert Bruce's work. For the "Adventurers", I will use more of a focus on "fantasy based" scenarios. Noticing is great or that.
I have read enough and watched enough seminars and info vides via YouTube and net to be able to tailor a plan to their own likings and "belief systems".
The last group of people I helped, I never gave the name of this Forum to and asked that they not search info out for themselves. Trust was important there.
Just recently I have introduced "tools" to them. Tools such as Binaural Beats, light sound machines, float tanks etc. to aid them to go deeper.
When they first started though, they only used the simple "geometric imagery" focus. No Bin beats or anything. What this taught them was to be aware of everything. During the act of noticing, your other sense become ultra aware. This teaches you the real Art of observation. Not only are you noticing things behind your closed eyes, you are normally hearing the environment around you quite clearly. That drip of a sink becomes extraordinarily loud and hard to ignore. Any sound seems amplified. Any smell or physical feeling/tactile as well. We kind of become "ultra aware". To combat this myself I begin every personal session with a simple "mental affirmation". I say "By my act of will I release my focus over my physical body. I have used this affirmation for years now and the constant training has paid off immensely. While reading this, you may think, what a waste of time or totally unnecessary, but try it. It can't hurt!
Because my "group" had learned the hard way, once I introduced Binaural Beats and Isochronic Tones to the equation, this entire practice became so much easier for them to do. Now they could shut down all those sounds around them and replace them with a pleasant musical one. They could use it as a "timer" of sorts. I use Binaural Beats that normally go for about 45 minutes to an hour. Jurgen Ziewe has a great one for that. So does Paul Collier. I find anything by Paul excellent. DJ Vishnu's meditation series beats are normally and hour long. So loading two of those in my playlist consumes a one hour period. I know with those "tools", they speak of how the one sound goes into one ear the left ear and the another sound the right one, creating the brain to create a whole new one. But I mainly use Bin beats and Iso tones as just a "filler" focus. In other words, just to consume my focus until the "shift" has occurred. Just pushing the play button creates a "automatic" response inside of me. It immediately kicks the "session" into gear. Hemi sync and even "walkthroughs" are very good to consume the time needed to undergo a "full" shift.
In my "research" with my group and others I have aided, I have found problems that they all come across quite quickly. These things are always experienced by new members, the first of these occur during the act of simply noticing a shape and cause the person to experience their first "signpost". It could be imagery, or tactile, like vibrations or even a sound. But the session normally ends then and there. The "internal" questions begin and things spiral out of control. What was that? Is it real? Is this really happening? No longer are you "just observing", now you are questioning everything. The next thing the person will do is try to "force" the experience. This is bad too. You need to learn to "allow" things to develop. But you also need to learn to take baby steps. Ex. I am noticing for the first time and all of a sudden the "screen" behind my eyes brightens. Immediately the "physical" eyes will target this and the experience will end. The questions now commence as well. This is when you should immediately stop what you are doing. Open your eyes and write down this experience in your Journal. Too many times you will stay in the focus too long and miss the "recall" portion of the session. "Anything" that occurs during this practice should be "journalized". "Everything" is "progress".
Take it slow. There is no race. You will achieve this if and only if you have the patience and you do the practice needed to finally persevere.
I will periodically add some more tips and helpful info to this thread. I would also gladly answer any questions you may have, either in this thread here or via PM.
Thank You! :-)
On another Forum a man that I have come to really respect his knowledge of Astral Projection, mentioned the term "Priming the Pump" to me. He did it in the "analogy" of preparing one's mind to Phase, in the act of Phasing. Phasing being a shift in consciousness from here to there with no actual "OBE" needed.
At first when I began reading his posts years ago I could swear he was a "Swami" or Jedi Master of some kind by the way he articulated his words. But like I said, I have come to respect him.
I am creating this thread to aid those that really wish there was some kind of simple technique to truly be able to see something for themselves.
For this technique I want you to give yourself a couple of weeks of at the least an hour a day. If you can't do that, you aren't serious about this to begin with. Everyone should be able to find at least a hour a day for "my time". No excuses.
I do have a warning though. Please don't try this or any Astral Projection technique if you are suffering from any Medical condition that causes mental instability, without the consent of your physician/Psychiatrist first.
This a very simple focus on the word "Focus". That's it. That is what we are going to use to prime the pump. Close your eyes and just begin mentally saying the word "Focus" slowly, once a breath and just enjoy the darkness before your closed eyes. Like many, you are likely going to lose focus on the word focus and your mind will stray. Don't bash yourself though. Just calmly return your focus back to the word focus. If it's easier for you, just know that it is written in that darkness before your eyes. You don't need to see it right now, just know it's there and will eventually show up.
After awhile it can get boring. So now we will start playing with the word Focus. We can mentally slow it down so it lasts the entire breathe. We can say it and wait to hear it on the echo. We can look for it. Be creative. Anything you do here will bring you deeper in your "Focus". Soon things will start to happen. You could experience one of the many "signposts", like "Hypnagogic Imagery, vibrations, etc..
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html
Now that you are used to this for a few days. We are going to change things up. Robert Monroe was the first to create the famous Focus levels that many of have read about. Hopefully you that are reading are new enough that you haven't read about them yet.
For the next part of the Focus technique, we will add a number behind the word Focus. We will use the numbers 10, 12, 15, 21, 22, 23. 24, 25, 26, 27, 34, 35, 42 and 49. The higher the number, the higher the level you will normally experience. It's not a good idea to start at the highest tough. Doing that would be quite the challenge. But hey, everyone's up for a good challenge one in awhile.
To get the full benefit of this experiment, do not go and look up the real meanings/destinations of those levels. For now, just observe and experience yourself. After the 2 or so weeks, you can go look up the actual Focus level meanings and compare your own notes.
Baby steps are needed if you are brand new to this practice. Just simply focusing on the word "Focus" will produce some kind of favorable result. At that point, stop what you are doing and return your focus back to this physical existence. Then take out your Journal and write down your results and findings. The next time you practice, you can push it further.
I found this technique myself while creating my "Doorway technique". I then modified it to a simple procedure for new members who were serious about learning. (You can find that thread/technique in the Stickies in this sub-forum as well.)
After a while I began focusing on a simple "office door" with the words Focus and the corresponding number I wished, imprinted on it. Once I opened that door, I had some kind of adventure. Many of the times the adventure had to do with something associated with Robert Monroe's actual meanings. Example: Retrievals.
Have fun with this. There is no race. This simple technique will give you a "sneak peek" of what could be if you decided to make this a "serious" practice in our life. Regardless of how far you want to go with this practice, you will still experience something completely out of your norm.
Thank You! :-)
In closing, here is a short video from the Robert Monroe the "Master" himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBOJEik1aI
Thank you, I might try this in the future.
Today, I want to talk about the importance of and give you some different simple techniques to aid you in mental preparedness, your own personal "Pavlov effect", for your daily practice session(s).
You have just returned home from a long day at work or school and your mind is on a hundred different things at once. You close your eyes and now those "hundred" things attack you all at once. I know what that's like. It's literally impossible to focus on one thing. Here is way to overcome that.
In the Gateway program, which I have used in the past, Robert Monroe uses a "box" that you open to rid yourself of all of your daily thoughts, concerns, worries, etc.. It works too. With your eyes closed he has you visualize a black box before you. You then open the box and put your thoughts, concerns, etc. into it, then you lock in tightly.
I begin each session with a simple mental statement that practitioners of Magick have used for many years now, "By my act of will", then I add "I release my focus over my physical body". I then manually unzip my Human suit. I go through the mental action of actually unzipping my "physical body" and feeling as it falls to the ground around me. This instantly puts me into the zone. Every concern I had, every negative thought, every worry fell when my physical shell fell around me. This is "mental conditioning" and is also a "ritual" of sorts. But you will see that things like this do speed your progress further ahead. I was shown this "mental unzipping" technique while in a Phase session myself. I saw it in a couple of different ways. One was when I was using a simple progressive relaxation technique focusing on my toes and feet at the time. I then saw that they were disappearing before my eyes. One by one I watched how each body part just seemed to dissolve away. Another was a funny experience, one involving a "Pac Man"/Nano bite like characters that was chomping my body away, lol. Both showed me the importance of "disassociating" myself from my physical body as quick as I could. The faster you can do that, the faster you will "shift" to another.
Another good practice before you attempt a session, is using some form of "progressive relaxation". You can be as quick and basic or slow and detailed as you wish. When I first began practicing, I used a 15 minute progressive relaxation focus. In time, I shortened it to 5 minutes, then down to 2 minutes.
William Buhlman states that he has a certain place he always attempts. This is another form of repetition and conscious ritual. In his case, it's a couch. The funny thing is, when he lies in the couch any other time, he can feel a shift beginning spontaneously. All this is due to his mental conditioning.
You will learn in time to have the ability to hold your focus on a single thing so strongly, that just the simple act of not moving and watching a TV program or reading a book will start the physical sensations (signposts) of a oncoming shift in consciousness.
So try it, create your own process, that you use before every session as simple or detailed as you wish to help you get "in the zone". You will find that this kind of "mental conditioning" will really pay off for you.
Thank You.
Done! :)
I just finished my afternoon Phase session and in it, I was taught how to teach even more. I was shown that a explanation was needed here for my entire "imagination/tactile stimulus" approach to my techniques here.
I post these techniques such as the Phantom Wiggle and all my other simple techniques like the Doorway here because I want your first experience to be a adventurous one. I want you to see the "beauty", to witness the awe and I know that you only have a very short window there, in the beginning that is, to see what you can see.
Yes, you can consciously shift so you can work on yourself at a higher level. But first, I think it's necessary to learn how to walk before you begin to run. My imaginative visual and tactile techniques will give you that sneak peek and I want that sneak peek to leave you wanting more.
My time for exploring higher knowledge and self work comes in my Lucid Dreams and actual spontaneous OBEs. I save my Phasing sessions for new adventures and exploring.
If there is a urgent or dire message that your higher self needs you to know at that moment, it will tell you or aid you. Just because your session began with a imaginary target, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. You can still be given any instructions that are deemed necessary.
I find that with the basic wait an hour, go through all the signposts and hurdles, climbing out of your body, then finding yourself normally in the Real Time Zone (RTZ), that it can be quite a bit on a first time experiencer. ...and yes, it's definitely a eye opener, but now is when you usually will confront your first fear test.
Those techniques work and work well. They are just a longer way to accomplish the same goal, then Phasing is. With Phasing you need a strong focused will, just like you do with any other "out of body" technique.
My techniques may start at the "imaginary" stage, but what they "morph" is entirely a different thing. They take on their own lives and pretty soon you are in a full blown scenario.
Yesterday I was corresponding with a friend and we got talking about techniques we used to access the other realms. I then remembered this technique, which when it worked, has always led me to a very cool and unique experience.
This Technique I will call "The Spaceship Slingshot". At the time my friend was mentioning "slingshot" techniques.
Like in the other techniques I have posted here, you want to do whatever mental preparation you use to get in "the zone". Whether that is progressive relaxation, affirmations, some kind of breathe control, unzipping your human suit. Do whatever it takes to get mentally and physically prepared and focused.
Now, that you are prepared, I want you to slowly mentally count from 10 down to 1.
When you hit 1, there is a Rocket before you blasting off. You don't need to see it yet, just know it's there. Repeat this process until you can get a some kind of visual of the Rocket in front of you.
Watch the Rocket shooting into the sky. It quickly becomes a dot in the sky. Now, pull/will yourself mentally up to it, so you are beside it again and watch how once again it flies upward disappearing out of sight. You don't want to ground the spaceship again and repeat the visual. Just begin with the visual of seeing the spaceship beside you again, wherever it is in the Cosmos. Repeat this process over and over. Hence the term "slingshot" that my friend used.
After awhile, you will notice a few things. First, that the visual is getting easier and easier to focus on upon each repeated cycle. You will also see that something has changed in the "dimensional view" that you were seeing in. The scene you are witnessing has taken on more "depth".
You will also notice upon each repeated cycle that the background has changed. It began with a Rocket basting off from a launch Pad. Next you saw it as it entered Space. The next time it was deeper space and so on. Pretty soon, you are witnessing something extraordinary. You haven't willingly changed the background yourself. It has just "morphed" into what it wanted you to see.
In essence, you have tricked yourself into having a extraordinary experience. I won't say here what I see or how far I go. I want you to see. I already have and continue to see it today.
I realize it is hard to hold your focus on one target for a lengthy amount of time, when you first begin practicing "conscious shifting". So, the fact that the Rocket is disappearing from your view so quickly, gives you a chance to re-orient your visual. When you lose the visual, bring it back.
One thing that really helps in this technique is to adopt a "total observer" mentality. No questions, just absorb what you are seeing. You can question it later. For now, relax, release, let go and just go and experience it! :-)
Hi Lumaza,
I've been lurking for +6 months and decided to join because I enjoy the conversations here (initially it was Frank Kepple comments/help regarding Monroe's Gateway wave series). Anyways, I started attempting lucid dreaming last August and have only had 3 very low level LDs and that is not good enough. After a few decades of autopilot I am trying to fix/improve things. Ive been improving aspects of my daily routine: reality checks, prospective memory training, meditation every night, positive thinking/beliefs, dream journaling. Which leads me to this discussion...
So I really like what you write (under both your new & old name) and I've read these 3 pages here and just want to be sure on some things. I think focus is another key aspect I need to improve on. You've given a lot of examples from page 1 - 3, but it seems on pg 3 it seems pretty specific for newbies (like myself), to put a few weeks effort into about 1 hr each night on thinking of the word "focus." So my interpretation was that of spending an hour in mediation and using the word "focus" sort of like a mantra? I've meditated on breath and on a mantra word before for about 20-30 min average sitting on couch, but last 3 days Ive been doing this with the word focus.
I mediate as soon as lights go out for family. Here is how it went so far:
- Started Tuesday and mediated with mantra "focus" about 40 min. Sort of floundered with how to incorporate the word and ended up using it on out breath.
- Wednesday switched to using focus on both in and out breathes and meditated (eyes closed entire time) almost exactly to the minute 1 hr. :O Focus was amazing in a way.
- Thursday kids drained me so started nodding off at 30 minutes, so finished the rest in bed listening to a law of attraction track. A few times I would get a flash of something in my view but as soon as eyes "look" it would go away. :/
Another thing you mentioned (page 1 maybe?) that I am attempting during any little breaks at my desk job is your suggestion of focusing on a 2d shape (sq, cir, tri). I have to say getting a clear image is harder than I thought. So I am doing this as little brain exercises during the day. Weird how complex images oh like Darth Vader I can see easier than a silly square lol. Is this acceptable as an exercise how I am doing it?
Hopefully I interpreted your comments correctly. :?
Hello and welcome to the Astral Pulse Yodad! :-)
I apologize for the late reply. I just returned from my show this weekend and during that time I take a break from modern technology.
Quote from: Yodad on June 09, 2017, 14:27:27
Hi Lumaza,
I've been lurking for +6 months and decided to join because I enjoy the conversations here (initially it was Frank Kepple comments/help regarding Monroe's Gateway wave series). Anyways, I started attempting lucid dreaming last August and have only had 3 very low level LDs and that is not good enough. After a few decades of autopilot I am trying to fix/improve things. Ive been improving aspects of my daily routine: reality checks, prospective memory training, meditation every night, positive thinking/beliefs, dream journaling. Which leads me to this discussion...
Your determination to succeed in this is really showing through. All of that "mental training" will pay off in the long run. Along with what you are already doing, I would add a "personal pep talk" once in while giving yourself permission to succeed. stating "why" you wish to have this success.
QuoteSo I really like what you write (under both your new & old name) and I've read these 3 pages here and just want to be sure on some things. I think focus is another key aspect I need to improve on. You've given a lot of examples from page 1 - 3, but it seems on pg 3 it seems pretty specific for newbies (like myself), to put a few weeks effort into about 1 hr each night on thinking of the word "focus." So my interpretation was that of spending an hour in mediation and using the word "focus" sort of like a mantra? I've meditated on breath and on a mantra word before for about 20-30 min average sitting on couch, but last 3 days Ive been doing this with the word focus.
Thank You for your kind words.
Focus is the key. Every one of my techniques involves training to strengthen your focus.
I targeted simple Geometric shapes because we see them in all aspects of our lives. Every shape I chose has many "associations" with some form of structures. They can "morph" quite easily too.
I created the focus on Focus technique, because not only was it a play on the process. Yes, it is a "mantra". I found it a great way to mentally state your current intent as well. It was easy to incorporate into a breathing pattern too. Remember that I am just giving you guidelines, kind of like a "blueprint". But it's not set in stone. You can "alter" this into anything you think might work better for yourself personally. After all, who knows you better then you?
QuoteI mediate as soon as lights go out for family. Here is how it went so far:
- Started Tuesday and mediated with mantra "focus" about 40 min. Sort of floundered with how to incorporate the word and ended up using it on out breath.
- Wednesday switched to using focus on both in and out breathes and meditated (eyes closed entire time) almost exactly to the minute 1 hr. :O Focus was amazing in a way.
- Thursday kids drained me so started nodding off at 30 minutes, so finished the rest in bed listening to a law of attraction track. A few times I would get a flash of something in my view but as soon as eyes "look" it would go away. :/
You are doing great! 8-)
You are in the beginning stages and are experiencing your first "signpost". This signpost was a very brief "flash" of something that you didn't "intend" on seeing. It startles you, because this is your first "proof" that something out of the ordinary really did happen. Your physical eyes then immediately honed in on it. This is where further practice will really help you. You will get so used to seeing these "flashes" and other images, that somewhere along the line, you will realize it is your "mind's eye", not your physical eyes that are viewing them.
I learned this through my ailment known as "Trigeminal Neuralgia". In the beginning of my aliment, when I closed my eyes and "focused" on something visual, my left eye nerve would begin to spasm. That soon led to all 5 of my left facial nerves spasming as well. It was very painful. If I wanted to continue my practice, I needed to "see" another way. This way was with my mind's eye. I could tell I was seeing with it, because there was no pain involved. I found this by just focusing on my brain and it's location for awhile. All of a sudden visuals began occurring, but no pain.
When you Dream or even day Dream, you aren't using your physical eyes at all. You are using your mind's eye. The "screen" seems to be higher than your regular physical screen is. It's hard to explain. But you will know when you are seeing through it. The visuals are kicked up a notch and are normally combined by a "hyper" sense of depth and awareness.
QuoteAnother thing you mentioned (page 1 maybe?) that I am attempting during any little breaks at my desk job is your suggestion of focusing on a 2d shape (sq, cir, tri). I have to say getting a clear image is harder than I thought. So I am doing this as little brain exercises during the day. Weird how complex images oh like Darth Vader I can see easier than a silly square lol. Is this acceptable as an exercise how I am doing it?
If you can't see the shapes at the beginning, just know they are there and they will show up.
Take a piece of paper and draw the shape you wish to see. Look at it for about 5 minutes, then close your eyes. Normally, this will cause a imprint of it in your visual now. It will likely disappear quickly. But now that you have seen it once, you could bring it back or you could just change your focus to something that you find easier to create, like Darth Vader's image, as you said above. I just picked the Geometric shapes because I found them pretty basic and easy to visualize. Darth Vader or any other visual would work. In time, it would begin to alter as well.
Once again, the entire practice is based on learning how to hold your focus on anything that is not your physical body. You are doing this to pass the time, while you undergo a "shift" in your consciousness.
It takes a while to succeed with this because there are so many obstacles in the way. The one biggest one being your "Human" conditioning. You need to "desensitize" yourself from it, so that the shift can occur.
I would stick with one target of focus for now. Either the simple focus on the word "Focus" or the visuals on the Geometric shapes, Darth Vader, etc. Don't pressure yourself. I have many ways to get there. I use whatever way feels right at the time.
Just wait till Darth Vader talks to you, lol. I'm sure that will be another "shock" moment that will knock you out of your focus. But after awhile, you will learn to expect the unexpected, go with the flow and "allow" things to just happen, without all of the mental interference.
While at my show last weekend I had a number of people ask me what kind of experiences should they "expect" to see. I told them to expect nothing. Lose the "expectations" and just go see what is "shown" to you. In other words, what you "need" to see.
An example of this: This afternoon I went for a relaxing bath/phase session. I exert a lot of energy during my shows, both physical and "other". So when I return home, I need to find a place of "solace" to recuperate. Mine is my healing Phase soak.
I began with a focus on just relaxing. At the moment that was my sole intent. After about 15 minutes of just melting away, I changed my intent to working on a new Dragon design. I am attempting to learn to the art of "wire wrapping". My project involves wire wrapping a Crystal in the center of a wire Dragon design, that I have. At this stage of the process the design is purely mental. Slowly but surely it is manifesting in the physical as a real thing. I have been accumulating the parts and teachings to put it all together.
Back to my session though. So, I am mentally working on my design and my work screen fades away. It is soon replaced by some kind of large white tube. The imagery gets more vivid and I see a man inside of the tube. I can now see it is some kind of MRI machine and this individual seems to be stuck in it. I can now hear the machine humming as well.
I go to the control board to shut it off, but my fingers go right through it. I then attempt to manually pull the man out, but he is really heavy and doesn't budge. That's odd to me because he doesn't look that heavy and upon further observation, he isn't pinned in there either.
The idea then comes to me that he "trapped". So, I needed a new plan of action. I then accessed his "life's review" by holding onto his ankle and I could see that he was definitely trapped. He had no freedom to begin with in his physical lifetime here. That posed a big problem because I couldn't beautiful create a scene for him to walk into, simply because he had nothing to compare it to.
Another thought than came across me saying "If you can't beat it, join it". So, I did. I climbed into the machine with him and he was out of there "lickety split", lol. It seemed his fear of Claustrophobia outweighed his fear of being mentally trapped. That still didn't make sense though, because his Claustrophobia should have kicked in when he realized he was in the tube/MRI machine to begin with. He also chose one form of entrapment over the other. Still he was trapped. Perhaps this had some kind of strong influential meaning for him, that I couldn't see. :| :?
This was a "Retrieval" of sorts. But I have a feeling this man was experiencing a real NDE at the time. My normal or usual Retrievals end up at a Cathedral based structure on some kind of Island paradise. But this one just faded to black and was done with.
At no time during my Phase session had I intended to do this. My intent to begin with was just to lie back and relax/heal myself. But this is what I mean by the scene taking on it's own life and morphing into something you need to see, some lesson you need to learn, some destination you need to be, etc. .
Today while perusing through some of Frank Kepple's old posts here on the Astral Pulse Forum, I came across this gem of advise. In it he spoke of accessing your "upper screen", which occurs when you move your awareness to the top of your head. The quicker you can do this, the faster your shift in consciousness will be. I do this fast because using the "bottom screen"/physical eyes for me causes pain due to my TN.
He also spoke of how focusing on a "single still image" can be boring and I agree. But it is great when you are first starting out and if your focused will is strong enough, the image won't stay "still" for long.
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I read quite a bit on this BBS about keeping a quiet mind and I always wondered exactly what people meant because, when I am preparing to project, my mind is far from empty.
After reading your post, Shayde, the thought occured to me that maybe beginners were getting the wrong idea thinking that their minds had to be completely void of anything prior to projection.
The beginning phase of projection is all about using your imagination.
Of course, what you have to be completely devoid of is surface thoughts of the kind that generally come across in a verbal way, in your mind. Like, if you read to yourself, there is an inner voice that reads the words to you. Those kinds of thoughts are a bar to projecting.
Igniting the projection reflex involves getting your focal point of awareness up to the top of your head. The place where it needs to be is where your imagination resides. Think about eating your favourite food. At the same time, try and sense *where* in your mind that imagining is happening. Because where that imagining is going on, is exactly where you need your focal point of awareness to be.
In other words, what you need to do is to step into the realms of your imagination, but do it in a controlled way.
I often feel that people don't realise just how close the Astral is to ordinary consciousness. I was quite surprised to find out just how close it is. The Astral actually begins fractionally beyond the border of your imagination, and there is a thin buffer-zone that separates the two. My theory is that, in completely enlightened incarnates, this buffer zone no-longer exists.
An effective way of getting your focal point of awareness to the right place, is through use of meta-physical imagery. One concept involves imagining you are stepping through a mental doorway. Another involves imagining climbing a rope. Others involve imagining symbols and entering through them, etc. Basically, it doesn't matter what you imagine provided it is stable enough. In the sense that you don't want to be flitting from image to image as this will dull your concentration. Then again, there may well be people for whom having multi-images works best.
The point is, you can basically use whatever imagery you like, provided it serves the purpose of getting your focal point of awareness to the place in your mind where your imagination resides.
One thing I found, though, is that if you try and imagine just one still image it can get rather boring. To get around this, you need to make the image do something fairly simple like turn around, or swing from side to side or whatever. Have just enough of a movement to keep it interesting, that's all. Otherwise you may start to indulge in the mental act of creative visualisation, rather than Astral projection.
As your focal point of awareness rises (it does so quite quickly) you will simply lose all sensation of the physical. So you don't have to pay any attention to the physical body accept to make sure it is comfortable and will remain so for the duration of your projection. Just take a few deep breaths, lie back and relax. Or sit back, whichever you prefer.
Yours,
Frank
Yesterday, while in a Phase session I found myself in a cool experience and in today's session I pondered it further.
I began with some mental counting. I then immediately switched over to a focus on my new Dragon design. I continued the mental counting as well. I worked on my Dragon design and then the screen faded.
When it faded back in I saw a girl beneath me. She was moving closer, than farther away, either, that or I was the yo-you there. She was about 12-14, red hair with 2 ponytails in it. She had her hands stretched above her, like she was reaching for me. I could swear she was on some kind of "trampoline", but I couldn't see anything below her.
I finally caught on and grabbed her hands, giving her a good yank and she released, into my hands, through my grip and arms and then kept on rising. But now she was no longer a girl, well at least a girl as she was before. Now, she was a "Angel". This is the first time I have ever seen a "Angel" in any of my experiences. I have seen many "Entities", but none in the form of a Angel before.
The skies then opened up and I saw a vortex/portal appearing. It was yellow and spinning slowly. She flew into it and I decided to give chase. I found myself in the "tunnels" of this portal veering from side to side, up and down, but I just kept with it. After awhile of this, I decided to abort and ended my practice session.
I have always enjoyed a "disassociation" focus using 6 points out of my body (in front of me, in back of me, to the left/right, overtop and underneath). I have mentioned that in threads here and other places as well. This afternoon while in my phase soak, I experienced the speed of warping forward once again. But it abruptly stopped and I found myself deep in the 3D void. This is when the questions and on some level "telepathy" began.
Could we actually create a "Blueprint" from a "directional" dissociative focus. We already have mental conditioning to directions. Example, up/Heaven, down/Hell You could even say side to side/left or right, would be "beside" ourselves". I would say we could use that one for more of a "real time", more actual OBE like experience. Forward could be the "future" and backwards could be the "past".
I have been reading some things from Albert Einstein recently and he says "The faster you move, the more time slows down".
A point of consciousness doesn't need a physical vessel, per se. Although a point of consciousness will still experience the Journey there, wherever there happens to be.
So we could use up, as the "higher experience", like working with your guides and higher self. Experiencing higher levels of evolution.
Down could be for the "Badlands" experiences. You might want to try that just to experience what is there. I'm sure the Demon Hunters/Zombie fans would love this area. Different strokes for different folks. Sometimes there is light shining in that darkness and sometimes "you" become that light.
Left/Right would be for "etheric" projections, real time OBEs.
Forward, could be your future or just transcending time and experiencing "the" future itself.
Lastly, back. This could be for working on your past or just intending to see "the" past itself.
You will find after practicing the 6 point focus for awhile that it takes no time at all to begin to feel motion. Whether that motion is coming in the form of rising, falling, warping (speed forward or backwards) or just a sway to one side or the other.
Here is a few links threads where I use the 6 point focus.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/cloud_9_and_beyond-t44871.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/w...rform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html
Try it. I think it would be a great experiment and we could use this thread here to share our findings.
Thank You! :)
Lumaza,
This has been a great thread with a lot of useful info and techniques to try. Your experience with the girl/Angel sounded awesome!
I have been trying a few things here such as the shapes and colours. Funny how something so simple can be so hard. The 6 point technique sounds very interesting as well. So many things to try, so little time to fit them all in. I will stick with one thing at a time though.
Hope to see a picture of your Dragon Design on here some time. :-)
Quote from: T-Man on June 24, 2017, 17:40:28
This has been a great thread with a lot of useful info and techniques to try. Your experience with the girl/Angel sounded awesome!
I have been trying a few things here such as the shapes and colours. Funny how something so simple can be so hard. The 6 point technique sounds very interesting as well. So many things to try, so little time to fit them all in. I will stick with one thing at a time though.
Thank You for your kind words and I hope something in my writing here was and could be helpful to you. :-)
I figured the "Angel" experience was some other form of "Retrieval" that I have not yet experienced.
The 6 pt focus is great because it creates a tactile focus to go along with the visual. People that find visualization difficult can use more of a tactile approach to things.
That's a good idea. Stick with one thing at a time.
I changed the topic heading here because I was hoping other experienced members here might get onboard with this as well. By other experienced people here sharing, it will show those that are new and reading the Doorway thread itself, how staying with this practice can really lead to some remarkable adventures and experiences.
Lumaza I think your directional idea is absolutely brilliant. Truth is we are physical and thinking in physical terms is so natural that finding ways to do that in the non-physical only makes sense. And as an added bonus much like video games the 'demon hunters' should find this thought process right in line with their hand-held controls.
For the more experienced, this is still - simply brilliant.
Quote from: Nameless on June 25, 2017, 04:13:27
Lumaza I think your directional idea is absolutely brilliant. Truth is we are physical and thinking in physical terms is so natural that finding ways to do that in the non-physical only makes sense. And as an added bonus much like video games the 'demon hunters' should find this thought process right in line with their hand-held controls.
For the more experienced, this is still - simply brilliant.
Thank You Nameless! :-)
I like to come at it from all angles. Like I said, I love experiencing and experimenting anew. I hear from people that you can't "map" the Astral. But has anyone really given it a honest effort, more like a group project?
This technique is more like mentally conditioning yourself than anything. It's like the way my daily soak has become. Just getting into the water already is mentally preparing myself for a successful experience. Daily repetition is the key!
This new way tends to merge a OBE with Phasing. I have always seen a OBE to be experiencing a "exit of sorts" and with this technique you actually feel motion akin to a exit. The visuals are quite vivid as well. Just like they are with Phasing.
Normally my OBEs begin black and white and very faint.
That's interesting how you compared it to a "joystick", but I can see why.
I'm with you on mapping. I do think it can be done we just have to stretch our terms and definitions. There have just been too many times when someone has said "I had a dream ..." and as I listened to their experience (dream or not) I know exactly the place or the 'people/entities' they speak of. And that is just casual conversations not having anything to do with AP or this 'art' at all.
So for me, I would say my conclusion except I haven't concluded anything yet, is that all this IS perfectly natural and we all already know how. Now the question is why and the concept is what to do with it.
What a super-duper thread! :-D
Quote from: Selski on June 25, 2017, 08:13:40
What a super-duper thread! :-D
Thank You! :-)
Please, if you have anything to add, share away!
I am hoping I can get some more "experienced" members more involved in some active experimentation again. I find that many of them have kind of "petered" out over the years. I think the way to get them back in, is to once again create that "new person passion" and enthusiasm that they/we all once experienced.
For those of you that wish to practice the simple Geometric Shape focus, I have recently found that a deck of cards named the "Magical Tattwa Cards", uses simple geometric shapes on a colored background."
You don't need buy the whole deck. Just do a google search on Magical Tattwa Cards "images". Pull up the picture you wish to use. Blow it and just simply focus/stare at it for about 10 minutes. Then close your eyes and the "imprint" of that chosen design will still be there.
This is akin to the "candle burning watching" technique that led me to my own first awesome OBE experience.
Here's a sample that I blew up for you.
http://www.northernway.org/school/eom/firesymbol.jpg
Here is a link to the candle burning technique as well. The guy unfortunately has added a lot of unnecessary commentary to it. Like the need for Chakra work and energy work and he has added his own personal philosophies. But the technique itself is sound. I have used it with great success.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3M-LuTRfcI
If you want to convince yourself how real this practice is, try this. I guarantee something out of the ordinary will occur. Give it a honest effort though. Put your entire focus on the candle and only the candle. It will definitely leave a imprint in the darkness behind your closed eyes. Hold the image as long as you can and when it fades, bring it back. When it starts to morph into something different, allow it to and let our curiosity bring you deeper.
Stay not in the precipice, with the dross of Matter, for there is a place for thy Image in a realm ever splendid..
(courtesy of the Chaldlaean Oracles)
Quote from: Nameless on June 25, 2017, 04:13:27
Lumaza I think your directional idea is absolutely brilliant. Truth is we are physical and thinking in physical terms is so natural that finding ways to do that in the non-physical only makes sense. And as an added bonus much like video games the 'demon hunters' should find this thought process right in line with their hand-held controls.
For the more experienced, this is still - simply brilliant.
I realized after my Phase/soak session today that although my reply to your post sufficed, it wasn't exactly what I was wishing to relay.
A quick share before I answer your reply.
My total focus today in my Phase session was get to the 3D darkness and just stay there the entire duration of the session. To do that I began with my mental intent to "release my focus over my physical body", then I just noticed the darkness before my eyes. But this time, I didn't go with anything that began to morph. I quickly aborted it and kept my full and undivided attention on the darkness.
There were many images that tried to "entice" me away, but I kept ignoring them and staying the course.
I must have been doing that for quite a while, because when I returned my focus to my physical body, I found the bath water had cooled considerably.
I have also found that the bath water/tub, whether it be with bubbles or not, creates that perfect "Calgon moment". Like "Calgon, take me away", lol That commercial from the 70's. 8-) It is a great way to learn disassociation from the body. MJ even bought me a Bath Pillow a couple of months ago. So staying in there a long amount of time is no problem. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVLzkTuVmrw
The bath water acts likes a "Float Tank" of sorts and many people report incredible experiences while in a Float Tank. Unfortunately they are very expensive to buy and even cost over $100.00 a hour to use, at some places.
On another note. I should have noticed this years ago when I was having my spontaneous adventures while just in the shower itself. It was trying to give me a "hint" and for some reason, I missed the message. :oops:
Now to the reply to your post.
We are biological machines. With our brains being the "interface", akin to a computer. We have been programmed all our lives. So why can't we use "programming" to our advantage in this practice as well?
I see why the Demon Hunters/Zombie crowd is so successful with projection. They are normally younger and have grown up on the "Sims" and other role playing games.
MJ's kids used to play that "Doom" shooting creature game and it made me nauseated just watching it. Thankfully the "Otherworlds" don't have such jagged and bad visuals. I got nauseated by the jagged motions of the scenes. So, I never really got into the role playing games. But I have had many adventures in some kind of "Cartoon" land.
Quote from: Lumaza on June 25, 2017, 16:47:22
Thank You! :-)
Please, if you have anything to add, share away!
I am hoping I can get some more "experienced" members more involved in some active experimentation again. I find that many of them have kind of "petered" out over the years. I think the way to get them back in, is to once again create that "new person passion" and enthusiasm that they/we all once experienced.
Agreed. :-)
I've got Monroe's Gateway Experience Wave I - Discovery CD and haven't listened to it in years. Also got a few of Dr Jeffrey Thompson's gamma/theta meditation CDs that someone gave me a while back. Whenever I regularly listen to these, I tend to go on little jaunts/adventures and your ideas of doorways and the like will give me something to focus on.
Am sure I'll be adding my experiences probably in another section (is there a meditation section?) so as not to clog up your thread. I've just ordered a CD walkman so I can lie in bed of an afternoon with my big Sony headphones on and drift away without disturbing anyone else in the house.
I'd be interested in joining future experiments at some point once I get back into the hang of regular daily adventures. :-D
Quote from: Selski on June 27, 2017, 04:01:15
I've got Monroe's Gateway Experience Wave I - Discovery CD and haven't listened to it in years. Also got a few of Dr Jeffrey Thompson's gamma/theta meditation CDs that someone gave me a while back. Whenever I regularly listen to these, I tend to go on little jaunts/adventures and your ideas of doorways and the like will give me something to focus on.
Excellent. These kinds of "re-fresher courses" are great. Taking a walk down memory lane always feels good. Sometimes that's what we need to once again "kickstart" everything into motion.
My big purchase in the beginning was a Program called "Explorations Beyond the Body" by Steve G. Jones. I know what many people think of him and I don't care. I got what I needed at the time from his info and yes it was costly (pricey), but I saw the actual ordering and paying of his program to be a deeper commitment to me personally. I knew myself and knew that I am very "frugal" when it comes to spending money. Materialism has never been a part of me. So, I knew what that purchase meant to me and that was a great aid in creating the patience, practice times and determination needed to be successful here. That and the fact that my first " conscious" experience was "AWESOME".
QuoteAm sure I'll be adding my experiences probably in another section (is there a meditation section?) so as not to clog up your thread. I've just ordered a CD walkman so I can lie in bed of an afternoon with my big Sony headphones on and drift away without disturbing anyone else in the house.
About 6 years back I bought a set of Bose noise cancelling headphones just for my Binaural Beats/Isochronic Tones and any other Astral related CDs. That was one of the best purchases I have made towards this practice. That and my "Laxman" light/sound machine. But unfortunately my Trigeminal Neuralgia does not permit my Laxman anymore. I used to have some great experiences while using it. But in the end, we tend to lose and kind of outgrow the "need" for those tools. I won't give up my Headphones or my earplugs, (for sleeping at night). I like those "inner voices" to come through loud and clear, lol! :-D
QuoteI'd be interested in joining future experiments at some point once I get back into the hang of regular daily adventures. :-D
When you are ready, just say the word. I am currently working on some interesting experiments that we could all try, once I see a interest shown by others here.
These are more based on "group" work. That is the only way to find out if something can be applicable in mass or not.
Those Demon hunters get groups together with the same focus in mind. Like I said, they really have really strong wills and great focus abilities. I'm not into the Demon hunting though. I would rather help with Retrievals. Although, many times in a Retrieval, you are entering into that person's or entity's personal hell.
My goal right now is to learn how to program Bob's main Focus level locales into some kind of "directionally" applied map. Whereas, a focus on one of the 6 pts, will immediately take you to one of those "programmed" destinations.
After awhile we could change the destination of a point to whatever new goal/focus we wished it to be. But we would doing this as a group of people. Not necessarily synchronized.
I can only write down what I experience. I don't have another person yet, that is attempting the same thing, to compare my findings with. That's why I say, "the more the merrier".
In the past, I received PMs here from people that had success with 6 pt. focus. I am also now instructing the 7 (yes, 7. I lost one more:( )people I have left that I have been helping, to do this as well. On top of that I have recently received some PMs here and some interest from people on other AP related Forums too. Add to that my "Guides" seems to be pushing me this way. So, I feel we are really on to something here.
There is likely some interest and curiosity coming from others here that are as of yet, still in the shadows.
Because of that, I wish to change my total focus to teaching the 6pt focus again. We will begin very basic.
First I want to reiterate this warning once again. Please, do not attempt this if you are suffering from any kind of "Clinical Mental Disorder".
The first thing you need to do is to get to point where you can feel a pull from the direction you are focusing on.
While in my daily Phase/soak session today, I played around with getting the "etheric tug o war" going. I found that some of the directions seemed to respond then others. Ex. a focus on front, then back, seemed to come stronger then left/right did. So, I stayed with just the simple up/down for a couple of minutes.
I then was kind of telepathically told to work on different ways to get the "ping ponging" action going strong. I then began "ping ponging" my focus back and forth quickly and that seemed to work, but not necessarily strong enough for me. So, I thought more about it and the idea came to add counting up numbers to do this. This worked great. The counting coordinated great with the ping pong focus.
So, to do this, just simply become aware of the point you are focusing on. Now go to the opposite direct. Ex. up/down. Ping pong a bit until you start to actually feel something. At first, your physical body will react to just the thought of your focus. Your brain/interface, will always send a signal to create that physical impulse. With further practice and repetition, you will learn how to shut that impulse off, while continuing your "etheric tactile" focus.
Now, add the "mental" counting. Every number coordinates to either direction. Ex. 1 up 2 down 3 up 4 down and so forth. If you slow your counting, you also strengthen the pulling sensation. But just start with counting regularly for now. We need to walk before we can run.
The thing I seem to be hearing from people is that they don't have the "time" to do this. This is not a lengthy time consuming practice. It's the repetition that creates the mental conditioning.
Take 2-5 minutes, 3 times a day, morning, noon and night. If you wake up to a alarm clock, use the "snooze" setting as your duration for a 2-5 minute practice session. At work, around noon, close your eyes and take 2-5 minutes to do some simple "etheric ping ponging" . Before you go to sleep at night, do 2-5 minutes of etheric ping ponging. There now you have 3 simple non time consuming sessions that anyone can do.
If you attempt a session while standing, make sure there is nothing dangerous in your immediate vicinity. This process can bring on a very strong feeling of vertigo.
This is a good start for anyone that wishes to attempt this. Just remember, it's the repetition. that is important here. Put an honest effort into this. You get out practice, what you put into it. If you are serious about this new quest, you will find success.
Practice this for this week week and next week I will add some more to instructions to take this deeper. Till then, just get used to the etheric tactile ping ponging/virtual tug o war.
I have been told that there is definitely"gold at the end of this Rainbow" and that this process is going to evolve into something awesome. Come along for the ride! :-)
Feel free to ask any questions you may have or share your experiences here.
Thank You! :-)
Quote from: Lumaza on June 27, 2017, 17:53:09
Excellent. These kinds of "re-fresher courses" are great. Taking a walk down memory lane always feels good. Sometimes that's what we need to once again "kickstart" everything into motion.
My big purchase in the beginning was a Program called "Explorations Beyond the Body" by Steve G. Jones. I know what many people think of him and I don't care. I got what I needed at the time from his info and yes it was costly (pricey), but I saw the actual ordering and paying of his program to be a deeper commitment to me personally. I knew myself and knew that I am very "frugal" when it comes to spending money. Materialism has never been a part of me. So, I knew what that purchase meant to me and that was a great aid in creating the patience, practice times and determination needed to be successful here. That and the fact that my first " conscious" experience was "AWESOME".
Yes, The Gateway Experience was a 'big' purchase for me - it wasn't cheap. But, like you say, it was telling myself that I was serious about 'all this'. Interestingly I've never had an OBE from the CDs, but I've had a lot of lovely experiences/experiments with imagination, including plenty of spacewalks - way cool. :-D
I haven't heard of Steve Jones - shall I look him up or not bother, lol.
Is your first experience here at the Pulse? I'd like to read it if you can find a link.
Quote from: Lumaza on June 27, 2017, 17:53:09About 6 years back I bought a set of Bose noise cancelling headphones just for my Binaural Beats/Isochronic Tones and any other Astral related CDs. That was one of the best purchases I have made towards this practice. That and my "Laxman" light/sound machine. But unfortunately my Trigeminal Neuralgia does not permit my Laxman anymore. I used to have some great experiences while using it. But in the end, we tend to lose and kind of outgrow the "need" for those tools. I won't give up my Headphones or my earplugs, (for sleeping at night). I like those "inner voices" to come through loud and clear, lol! :-D
I think my best purchase would be the earplugs. I use wax ones made by Quies and wear them every night (along with an eyemask). I've got a Really Old pair of headphones and may consider Bose if/when these bust. I'm reluctant to replace them if they still do the job. I also looked into light/sound machines back in the day but never got round to actually hitting 'buy'. If yours is sitting around gathering dust, chuck it my way! :wink: Your illness sounds horrendous (I've just looked it up) and must be problematic when practising...well, when living day-to-day also. Where's the hug emoticon? ((hug))
I'm going to have a go at mental ping-pong this week - sounds fun. :lol:
Quote from: Selski on June 29, 2017, 06:54:15
I haven't heard of Steve Jones - shall I look him up or not bother, lol.
Don't bother. His info was good when I needed it. You are wayyy past that. The only thing of his I still use is his Binaural Beat MP3 that came with the program. it is one of the best I have ever used. It's funny they gave me a duplicate program to give to someone that wanted to use it too. I tried to give it away free to my friends that showed a bit of interest. But no one wanted it. That pretty well showed me that there "interest", was just a kind way of "humoring me".
QuoteIs your first experience here at the Pulse? I'd like to read it if you can find a link.
This is one of my first under my old name Lionheart here. I had officially joined sometime in 2011. But because my name Lionheart is no longer valid here, it took me awhile of going back in the Astral Pulse "abyss" to find any of my earlier posts. I thought I had a message in the "Member's Forum" as well. But I couldn't find it. My post on Oct 9th 2012 pretty well explains my "NP" awakening.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/4_years_no_luck_something_wrong_with_me-t38470.0.html
QuoteI think my best purchase would be the earplugs. I use wax ones made by Quies and wear them every night (along with an eyemask). I've got a Really Old pair of headphones and may consider Bose if/when these bust. I'm reluctant to replace them if they still do the job. I also looked into light/sound machines back in the day but never got round to actually hitting 'buy'. If yours is sitting around gathering dust, chuck it my way! :wink: Your illness sounds horrendous (I've just looked it up) and must be problematic when practising...well, when living day-to-day also. Where's the hug emoticon? ((hug))
It's kind of strange preparing for bed like that. I do my nightly ritual/mental intents, put my Sleep Mask on, insert the earplugs and I am off. No interruptions, until MJ squirms, which she does often, lol.
My best LDs come when she has already gotten up out of bed to start the day. I go to sleep very late. Most nights around 2-4 am. I am a "night owl". I love the darkness, 3D or not! 8-)
It's funny how once in awhile the "ping pong" motion I am creating, all of a sudden becomes accompanied by the visual of a actual ball ping ponging back and forth. Sometimes with the table as well.
Your first experience sounds really intense. Yikes. :-o
Well, the mental ping-ponging worked ... albeit not in the way I was expecting (no surprises there then). I'll post it in the dreaming section. :-P
Quote from: Selski on June 30, 2017, 04:09:10
Your first experience sounds really intense. Yikes. :-o
Yes, that was a rather intense way of waking someone up! :roll: :-P
Quote... albeit not in the way I was expecting (no surprises there then).
It never is, lol! I don't "expect" anymore. I just experience! :-)
My first intended consciously aware experience came after using the "candle staring" technique.
I sat down and watched the flame for about 15 minutes. I then blew it out, closed my eyes and saw the imprint in my "screen" there. It faded after about 10 seconds. So I brought it back. That game of fade in/fade out went on for awhile until I noticed a vibration. There was also a strange sound like wind. It didn't take long until I felt I was in a actual Earthquake and the sound was so loud I could swear of Helicopter was landing on my roof, lol. I was hooked though! I couldn't wait to do it again! :-)
It was scary, but awesome at the same time.
This morning I awoke, used the bathroom then went back to bed. I laid down on my back, which I rarely do (I am a side and stomach sleeper). I then preformed a "mental ping-ponging" motion. targeting left and right. The ping ponging tactile feeling morphed into more of a full body rotation. I wanted to say here, that if your simple ping ponging tactile technique turns into any other kind of "tactile" feeling, go with that new feeling. Do not change it. Only start again with the ping ponging if you lose the feeling period.
I accompanied it with counting to 200. Once I hit 200, I turned onto my side to sleep some more.
Almost immediately I become aware of a strong warping forward. There was no climbing out of the body and I didn't feel any vibrations either. When my sight kicked in I saw I was flying into some kind of city. People were walking around and I went up to the first one that I saw there, a man and asked "Do you know where MJ is?". He said no. I thought about that and wondered why I asked that. :?
I then went around talking to and asking other people questions. Some answered, some didn't.
After awhile of checking out the City and talking to the locals there, I went into a Café/Coffee Shop, sat down and just observed everyone around me. A young lady, probably 18-20 years of age came up, sat beside me and began rubbing on me. I looked at her and asked "Why are you doing that". She looked at me and said "to help you become more aware". It definitely did that, lol. Before that my awareness seemed to be fading.
Sometimes when deep in a experience you will find that your awareness will fade quickly. That's because you have totally succumbed to or became a part of the scenario at hand. You need to keep a balance between knowing your asleep/consciously projecting right now or while "there", without totally becoming a part of scenario at hand. When you do learn to balance the 2 of them, you will find yourself in much longer experiences as well. At least consciously aware that is.
This was much different then my usual LDs. I knew right away it was a OBE. In my LDs, I become aware in the middle of a full blown scenario that is in full blossom. I also see it first from a 3rd person point of view. In this recent experience I was in 1st person mode all the way. The thing that makes me classify it as a OBE is that I became aware of a actual exit from my physical body. In LDs I don't. Mind you they are all still "non physical/local states of consciousness" though. That's my way of defining whether it was a OBE or not. LDs are more like Phase session. The difference being you are completely consciously aware in a Phase session from beginning to end, just like a OBE. But a Phase session for me is not "normally" accompanied by any actual "exit symptoms". Once in awhile I do get exit symptoms while Phasing though.
On another note. Recently a good friend of mine asked me why this is important to people and to me as well. I said because I have been shown that learning this will aid with coming changes. One of those changes being our/your own "final" transition from here to there (physical death).
When that time comes, while others stand in line asleep, you will be fully awake and aware! :wink:
If you are new to this Forum, try the 6 pt focus technique. I will guarantee that just the simple "ping ponging" of directions, which by the way can be done anytime almost anywhere, will indeed lead to some kind of experience for you. This doesn't take years of practice to achieve. Something will happen and maybe that initial sneak peek into something out of your current mindset with create enough curiosity to be asking for more.
Use a journal to log your progress. Journal after every session. That way, you can follow your progress with this practice in general.
Today I wish to focus more on the "enhancing" of the pull. But first I just wanted to add another thing that I found was important in this practice. That is time or place. Yes, using the same time schedule, which can be difficult because of life itself or using a place or special chair etc., will also help with the mental conditioning.
William Buhlman, a famous Astral Projection Author, states that he uses his couch for his practice and that his consciousness is so used to it, that sitting on it period anytime begins the "shifting" process itself.
A good friend of mine on another Forum, brought up the idea of her purchasing a "bean bag" chair just for this practice itself. Being the entire practice in general, not just the 6 pt focus.
When I was first new to this I had to learn lessons the hard way, as do most of us. I would hear you should do this or that and totally ignore it thinking it's unnecessary. One of those lessons occurred while ignoring the "never try to AP in bed". After my initial OBE that came following a "Candle burning" technique, instead of using a chair, I started practicing in bed. The problem wasn't me going to sleep while attempting the "Mind Awake/Body Asleep" focus, it was with now trying to go sleep in bed at all. Somehow, I ruined my inner programming that we all have that says "Bed is for sleeping". When I laid down to go sleep, I automatically began Phasing and sometimes it lasted for hours. I couldn't turn it off. So, be careful what you wish for, lol.
I did get passed that stage. It took finding a happy balance between the 2 of them. But it caused many sleepless nights just the same.
Getting back to the mind awake/body asleep technique. This is one of the most used techniques that is mentioned and still used today, by many of the famous Authors of Astral Projection. In it, you basically stay aware while allowing your body to fall asleep. This can be a very time consuming practice. When I first began using it, it took anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour and half to hit that mark. This 6 pt focus that I am sharing here, if anything, will consume all that time doing something fun and adventurous, instead of just staring into the darkness and waiting and waiting and waiting.
Now to the Enhancing.
To begin with we are going to work on some tricks to kick start the feeling of motion into gear.
This first part will serve two purposes. First, it will exercise and kind of loosen up your muscles, thus helping you to relax. The second thing it will help with, is making the last thing before you close your eyes a tactile sensation itself.
So, stand up. Give yourself about 6 feet clearing all around you. Now with your eyes open. Walk forward 3 feet, then backwards 6 feet. Walk forward 6 ft, then backwards 6 ft. Feel the sensation, ending back in the middle where you started again. Once in the middle (without turning your body), you are going to move 3 feet to the left and then 6 feet to the right, then 6 ft to the left, 6 ft right for 3 cycles, finally returning to the middle again.
Now do the same process with your eyes closed. When you are finished, open them and we go to step 2.
Put your hands on your hip and bend forward, then bend backwards for 3 cycles, finally ending straight up again. Now do the same with left and right, for 3 cycles. Lastly, reach up, extending your toes as high as you can, then crouch down as far as you can, for 3 cycles.
Repeat that with your eyes closed, then sit down, lay down whatever you prefer.
Now, if you actually did this entire exercise, you are confirming and committing on a deeper level your intent and your consciousness has received that message. That is what ritual is all about. A gauge of your intent. How bad do you want this?
Close your eyes and begin a bit of ping ponging of for a minute or two. Feel the tug o war. Feel the uniqueness of each direction.
We are going to slow the speed down on the ping ponging now and we are going to synchronize it with our breathing. The synchronizing with the breathing is very good to enhance the strength of the pull and overall tactile sensation of each direction.
Start with your focus on the up/down, a breathe in breath will be rising/up, a breathe down a falling/floating down feeling. Do this for 3 cycles. Next we move to the frontwards and backwards and do the same thing for 3 cycles. Breathe in, in this case is backwards. Breathe out is forwards. Next do it to left/right. I am left handed so I usually do breathe into the left, right is out. But that doesn't really matter here. You can choose whatever one feels comfortable to you. Slowing down the breath will enhance the tactile sensation.
By now the feeling of motion should be going strong. Now we go even further. This is where it gets fun.
We will begin with associating the direction with common things we already experience in this life.
Front, will be some kind of driving, flying simulation. You could use the visual of driving a vehicle. This is something common to most of today. See the road ahead and follow where it leads or fly overtop of the trees, waters, buildings, whatever you can visualize works. Now that "etheric" tactile sensation should be really good.
A Roller coaster ride is very good with the forward tactile focus as well. I find it generally harder to prolong though because a Rollercoaster ride is normally very short. But it is extremely intense. So does the visual of a spinning vortex or portal.
A friend of mind on another Forum said she had a hard time with the driving visual because she kept loosing her tactile focus to focusing more on the poles, trees and homes that she was passing by. I figure that's a good thing. It shows how deep her focus was to the scene she had created as it was. In that case I say, abort the 6 pt focus and follow where "this" new occurrence is leading you. After all, a focus outside of you physical body is what we are trying to achieve.
Other people have reported to me that the had a hard time with it also because they would getting "swayed" into something else. Not one of them said they had problems with the motion or visuals themselves. Their problems occurred while already visualizing itself.
When I first got into this practice I was met by a "Guide". That guide came in the form of my deceased brother in law. He taught me "depth perception" and basically how to navigate the "Otherworlds". He also taught me how important it was to learn to "passively observe" and to learn to "allow".
I would be attempting a Phase session and then all of a sudden a Horse or car, plane, rocket etc. would come into my visual screen, but I would always be behind it, watching it. Soon I would end riding it or in it, as of the car, plane. But for some reason my visuals began with some sort of "Pace Car" or vehicle. I don't know it this happens with others here too, but I experienced it myself.
Okay, back to the 6 pt enhancing.
So, forward was easy. Backwards, do everything from your forward simulation in reverse. Drive in reverse, fly in reverse, go through that spinning vortex backwards. I find it very intense and hard to hold a backwards focus. The tactile feeling is immediate though.
Next to up/down. We can use up as climbing, a balloon rising, Rocket simulation, flying, all kinds of things. Elevator ride, there is plenty or visuals that we mentally associate with almost every direction. As I said, backwards seems to be the challenge for me.
What goes up must come down. So for down we can use floating down to Earth from your up focus. Moving down the wall. Diving into the water. Going down on a Elevator. Once again this is very easy to associate with.
Now to side to side. The best ones I find for this is rolling waves. Swinging in a hammock is good too. Basically any kind of swinging effect would suffice, even a simple visual of a Pendulum swinging side to side to side.
Don't worry if you can't see these things or visualize them yet. Just know they are there and sooner then later they will be there.
You don't have to do the 6 points/direction every time. I personally like to stick with one direction for a entire session, sometimes many sessions, just to acclimate myself fully into associations with that direction itself.
If anytime during my attempts something else begins to occur or take shape, I fully allow the next thing to bloom and I immediately abort my initial 6 pt focus. That is our goal anyways. Like I said above, if anything, this 6 pt technique will totally consume your entire focus, thus giving time for the "shift" to occur itself. Many times you will just find yourself "there" and once there, it's time to explore your new surroundings.
Practice this for the next week and I will be back with more.
I was all set to post today a request for you (Lumaza) to describe in more detail this "ping ponging" in regards to the 6pt focus. I was a bit lost in how I was suppose to interpret my position and direction at each point - trying to visualize being in that new position. Instead I will just say thank you for the nice write up. ;) It is tricky trying to see myself in the new focus position. I think with your explanation of actually moving physically to the new position and remembering that viewpoint will give a good reference for a newbie.
Yodad, the ping ponging is a mental exercise. But it also creates a real tactile feeling. Although that tactical feeling is Etheric, at first it will still create a physical response. Example, Focus on your finger. Now focus on moving your "etheric" finger up or down. You will likely twitch or move your physical one as well. that is a automatic response/stimuli coming from your brain.
My exercise help you shut down that automatic physical response while still being able to feel movement, but now it is on a etheric level.
The ping ponging feeling occurs from the simple action of focusing on different points across from each other. This creates a etheric pull. Example. up/down, left/right or forward backward. Think of these points as surrounding your body, about a foot away. It doesn't matter where you are practicing this. In bed doesn't mean that by focusing on the point under you that you will find yourself on the floor. In the etheric, the floor isn't there. Just know that.
When I first started my practice I became aware of where I was. I would have a hard time because I would think a focus on under would put me under my bed, lol or a focus on the ceiling would leave me up there. But I soon got past that because it was the direction that was important, not the location. Example, when focusing on your moving your etheric finger, you may think, wait a second my hand is on the chair, how can I move it down. That would become a mental obstacle to you. But if you realized that chair wasn't there period, the obstacle is gone. So now it's easy to move your finger down, because it won't hit anything. Change your mindset, you change your reality.
When you begin bouncing your focus between 2 opposite directions it does create a "virtual" pull. Part 2 "enhancing" makes that pull stronger and more apparent.
I just finished my afternoon Phase session and it was "awesome". I will get to that in a bit.
Right now I want to say the message that I was told right of the bat was. "I am being Guided to doing this". I am being taught to teach you". Take that how you wish. I don't believe in coincidences, never have. I believe if you are reading this there is a good reason for that, just like the reason I am writing all of this is.
Last night I had 2 spontaneous OBEs. I label these OBEs because I actually had a "exit sign/symptom" (you can read more on Exit symptoms in this thread: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html
I went to sleep and made my mental affirmation to see what I need to see and learn what I need to learn, just like I do every night. Many times I will become Lucid in a Dream. This night though, I thought I was asleep, but then I felt a strong movement forward. This motion was of moving forward in front of my feet. Normally my spontaneous OBEs begin in full Sleep Paralysis, then I feel my ankles/legs touched and lifted. But this night there was only motion. Soon a small "portal" of some sort showed up and I was looking down a tunnel or pipe of some kind. The images at the end of the tunnel were very small. It was like viewing from the opposite side of a pair of Binoculars or Telescope. I wrote about it in a recent here too: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/quick_quotastral_relatedquot_question-t47103.0.html;msg367060#msg367060
After my first OBE, I soon felt motion again and found myself somewhere else again. Not much recall on this one though. I think there was a lesson to it though and that I will share in a minute.
So, back to today's Phase session. I laid back in the water and began some simple ping ponging. This is when the message came about being Guided. I listened and was also told that I need to get a bit more specific on body positions. I wasn't told in plain words, the messages come through more as very strong thoughts and impulses. They immediately consume my entire thought process. Once I have received one, I can continue back to what I was doing before, that being my "ping pong" directional focus.
I immediately noticed something that could confuse people. When standing, front and back is simply in front of you and behind you. So the motion moving forwards or backwards is easy to get. Up and down is now rising and falling, but you are rising above your head and falling below your feet. Right/left is simply to the left or to the right of you.
But, lying down, it will change and confuse you. Forward and backward is now in front of your feet and above your head. Up/down is still rising and falling, but now you are rising above your stomach and falling under it. Left/right stays the same. This is very important to say because it may cause you to "overthink" things.
Even though forward is in front of your feet, your accompanying visual is still the motion of moving forward. Example: racing forward on Rollercoaster.
In my Phase session today I explored the "Pace/Pilot car" scenario a bit more. I began with the forward/backwards. I found that for this session forward seemed to feel right. So I stayed with that. I messed around with a Rollercoaster visual, then some driving, using a "pace/pilot car" about 10 feet in front of me. For some reason I decided to change it to skiing. So I had a guy ski in front of me (pace car) and it was very cool. The snow was flying, it was beautiful. He was taking sharp curves and then all of a sudden he hit a "mogul". I felt the bump. He then hit another one and another one. He then hit a huge one that sent him flying. So I did too. That was awesome.
I then changed it over to a Motorcycle scenario. Again there was the speed, the curves etc., but this time he hit a actual ramp and once again, the flying occurred.
This immediately reminded me back to when I was new myself to conscious shifting. I was listening to a tape program by Steve G. Jones that used the mental visual and feel of moon walking, whereas there is 0 gravity. At first you begin with a simple step. Then another and another. but the step takes longer and you seem to move quite a bit further, because of the 0 gravity. Soon you take a bit of a leap and that feels great, so much so that you take a huge jump and find yourself floating or flying in that area. By now, if you stayed with the visual and in that scenario long enough, you have already encountered your conscious shift. Just don't think back to your physical body or your session will immediately cease. This is when you create a intent or go to your Happy Place and go explore.
My OBE last night helped me because I experienced the forward motion as being in front of my feet. When you visualize forward, you don't need to see your feet though, lol. I was just showed the importance in relaying this message to people.
Thank You! :-)
Lesson 3 today is based on "Charting".
By now, if you have put the effort into this, you should be able to just see a corresponding visual accompany the simple mental thought of each of the 6 pts.
For charting. Take a full blank piece of paper and line the names/directions of the six points evenly down the page. One under another. We want to separate them because we are going to be logging our mental destinations each day under each direction header. What we are looking for is mental associations that you frequent with just the thought of said direction. Examples, when I think of the right point, it is followed immediately with the image of a ship leaning to the right. But when I think of the left point, the accompanying visual seems to be of a Motorcycle leaning that way. Not everyday though. Because I am logging my results I can see that it is frequent enough, thus a pattern is created. These are all spontaneous mental associations though. During that session I didn't jump start the visual, only the motion of that direction.
So begin with some simple "ping ponging" for a minute or two. Then we are going to synchronize our breathing into the directional points. Example breathe in is up, breathe down is down and so on for each direction. Don't try to visualize anything. But if any mental associated imagery appears, remember it because that will be first Charted point.
Now slow down your breathing, draw it out for each point. This really intensifies the mental trigger and normally will aid I creating a visual, if you haven't already had one.
Do that for a week. It takes awhile to find continued patterns.
At the end of my session a couple of days ago I asked "Are you sure everyone is ready to see and experience this? The answer was fast and simple. Those that are reading this right now are ready to see it, that's why they are reading it now".
What was really cool was instead of it being just a mental message. A somewhat Humanoid shape actually showed came in to view as well. All I could see was the outline of whoever it was.
The next immediate visual that I had was that I was in the center of a room full of doors. There were probably hundreds of them there They were completely surrounding me. I then thought, cool, this is going to lead back to my initial "Doorway tech" that I started in the beginning of this thread. But instead of being a beginner step, this time around it's going to be much more adventurous. It's going to go much deeper. We are not only going to see where those doorways lead, we are going to actually program new destinations for them as well. This will in the end teach you to open your awareness completely to a new reality and new abilities that already lie within.
Just thought I would share that I was able to experience the vibration stage for the first time 2 days ago. I've been attempting the FILD technique with no success getting lucid. I went to bed usual time around 10pm and around 2-3am woke up and started tossing and turning trying to fall back asleep. I then decided to prop myself up a little higher with 2 pillows to make it feel less like I was lying down and within seconds I immediately went into vibrations. My heart rate increased a little but otherwise I tried to just let go and let it do whatever. I got a little disoriented because it felt as if my body was spinning a bit. Last thing I remember (I think) was hearing music like from a jack-in-the-box toy but not that song. Lasted probably less than a minute then faded away. I sort of expected images and maybe a dream to form but nothing really formed. :( I did a reality check and I was not in a dream. Very fun little experience. I tried to do it again last night but it did not happen.
Anyways, Lumaza, I am trying to get some np practice in during the day at work with a little 2-5 minute session but last few weeks have not been ideal so hopefully more typical routine will help going forward. With respect to 6 pt, I can put a focus on a point but it feels more like attention is put on that point instead of my actual viewpoint being at that spot. One day instead of focusing on the position, instead I tried to rather "feel" a sensation similar to moving in that direction like flying forward, or the feeling of diving down or trampaline going up. Other things that you've mentioned that do seem to feel a bit easier would be something like imagining or "feeling" my NP arms swinging as if I was trying to swim or do arm exercises. Actions seem easier then actually perceiving myself at a point next to me :roll:
I have been away from this Forum for awhile. I have been teaching and experiencing so much more these days.
First I want to say that my technique was getting a bit deep for people. Yes it worked, but it led to many experiences that the people doing it couldn't comprehend. So, I want to slow it down a bit and answer some FAQ's that I have received via email and PMs here and on other Forums.
Once you have been doing the directional focus for awhile, you will find that it takes about 5 minutes until you find that you art "primed" for your "travel" of sorts.
I have found from others that they have more favorable results using a focus of moving in reverse and also using the "Pace Car" visual.
A focus on moving in reverse is quite intense. You could look at it a the further in reverse that you go, the more you are moving away from your physical focus. It feels like that too. It gets extremely dark for awhile. You can feel the movement, but once in awhile, it may be joined with a visual of moving backwards down a hallway, vortex, tunnel and keeping with that focus will soon lead to "other".
The "Pace Car" visual can be as simple as watching a car, plane, rocket, horse, whatever you choose moving in front of you. Stay on their tale and soon you will feel the motion going along with the visual.
That leads to the first question. What do I do when I see something. Do I watch it, see through it, or just change my intent to something else?
My answer : All of the above. If you are "seeing" something, then you are having success already. If you stay with the visual it will morph in something anew. If you decide to see through it, something new will appear. If you want to change your intent to something completely different that you will experience that too.
At this point your focus on this physical realm is likely pretty well gone. You are at the point that "Hypnogogic Imagery" is appearing, which is a "signpost" that you are doing the right thing.
Next question. It keeps fading, what do I do then?
Answer: You will/bring it back into focus or just wait until something else appears.
Question of is it just my imagination? Answer: It begins as your imagination. Example, I start a simple focus on shooting a basketball into the darkness before my eyes.
I don't look for the basketball in my hands, because it's already there (thought=action). Pretty soon a hoop shows up. Then after awhile of just shooting the basketball over and over, I decide to do a "lay up". Now I feel the motion of that movement. I go back to just shooting the ball from the 3 pt line now and all of sudden a image returns the ball to me. Pretty soon there is game with a crowd to boot.
All I did was jump start the process by simple shooting a basketball into the dark. From there I had no expectations. What occurred was spontaneous. I just locked onto the scenario at hand and never thought about my physical body at all. In other words, I completely changed my focus from here to there. Soon the scene began to morph and I just stayed with it.
Back to is this being all imagination. I have had some incredible experiences with "Phasing", well before I began my "Doorway" technique here.
Years ago my better half (MJ) and I , were going to open a store in a mall at Christmas. We had a Kiosk or store in the same mall at Christmas for over 10 years now. But only for the Christmas Season, November/December.
We signed the contract for the store location, got the okay, then began working on our store design and what we would be selling there. MJ and I were both excited. We had a Kiosk the past couple of years and didn't like Kiosks anymore. A store was much better.
About a week later I sat down to do a Phase session. This is before they were "Phase/soak in the bathtub" sessions, like my previous ones in the posts above. In my Phase session I had seen us at a Kiosk selling a large stone and some weird glass paperweight. This made no sense because we were getting a store location, not a Kiosk in the middle of the hall. It was quite vivid though.
I found the stones to be Himalayan Salt Lamps and other weird glass thing to be handmade/blown glass Jellyfish.
I learned in the past to trust what I was seeing, so I secretly began to line up suppliers for these items. I informed MJ about my vision and she was not happy with this. Hence the "secretly" lining up suppliers. As the time to go to the mall and open the store quickly approached, I sold MJ on the idea of bringing these 2 items into our store, extra sales.
Two days before we were to go to our store to begin working on the layout, the mall called and told us they had made a terrible error. The store location was not in Minnesota, it was Michigan. General Growth Properties owns malls in other states, but for some reason, they us the same Mall name. They said all they could do for us is give us a Kiosk. MJ and I had spent quite awhile making Dragons and getting prepared for a store. Our Dragons don't fit in a Kiosk. But luckily Salt Lamps and Glass Jellyfish do. So it turned out okay. We took a very bad, very expensive error and made something positive out of it. MJ hated it. But we had to do something.
That whole story there explains how Phasing actually helped us out of a dire situation. We are just Ma and Pa and we can't take $10,000 dollar losses. Without the Salt Lamps and glass Jellyfish, we would have been out of luck and we would have taken quite a financial blow.
So you can see how learning this "Art" can really be beneficial to you. You can learn to heal. You can work on new projects. Learn new skills. There is so much that can be accomplished through "thought = action. But then one day you find "helpers" there or maybe you unknowingly begin to "channel", as I am now.
About 3 months back I was doing a Phase/soak session. In this one I saw I was creating beautiful "Wire wrap Trees". I am not a hands on Artist. I can't even draw good, lol. I am a visionary. The Dragons that we sell came from my mind, but MJ is the one that brings them to physical 3d nature. The process from my mind to her hands can sometimes take a few years to achieve.
So, I saw these copper wire wrap trees. They were gorgeous. Once I jumped out of the bath, I went online and began researching this process. Much of it I learned from watching videos. I wasn't just seeing the basic wire wrap trees. I was seeing something much more unique. They were mounted on crystals and were to be known as "Crystal Amplifiers". The idea was taking the energy of the crystals, with the copper as the conductor, along with your own intent, to make a very strong device or tool.
It seems I had opened some kind of "Akashic record" from a deceased "Wire Artist". It continues to this day. Some form of "Channeling".
I then went and bought some cheap crystal shards and began making some practice trees and pieces. Over 2 months I made 15 of them. Each one was based on the new vision during my daily Phase/soak sessions.
I soon ran out of supplies and MJ said if I wanted to pursue this further, I had to sell try to sell my trees at our next Renaissance Faire, which would be our last one for the year. We went there and I sold 14 of them. I was amazed, People saw my purpose by just looking at them. It was like they knew my intent. I told a few people that I created them to help them to focus their "positive" thoughts, wished and desire. It was a small show. I figured at best, I would sell one, maybe two of them. But 14, no way.
So, I made enough money there to accomplish my real visions. I found top notch quality, known as AAA Crystals. The man and his wife mine them at their mine in Arkansas. Great people.
I ordered from them "sight unseen", just by trust and was pleasantly rewarded for that trust. The Crystals are beautiful. The funny thing is, at the previous show I was at, there was a booth selling beautiful Crystals, but a voice inside of me said "Don't buy here". Now I can see why.
Here are 2 of my new trees/Crystal Amplifiers. The 3rd image is of my remaining piece from the last show. This was more Dragon related and not even on using copper. When I made my practice trees I used Aluminum wire, it was cheaper. In that design I used a "Fluorite" stone instead of Quartz Crystal. I had run out of Quartz.
The first photo is my "Peace Tree". I used over 180 feet of copper wire and leaves took about 8 hours to wrap. The trees are made by twisting a number of wire together to get a "tree" like look. The leaves on the trees are made by twisting tons of loops together to make a leaf life pattern and are very time consuming. The Crystal is beautiful. It is a 4" Crystal cluster of AAA quality. I felt guilty with the Crystals I had used in my practice trees. But they were only practice. Now was the real deal. Both pieces are about 8 inches wide by 8 inches tall. The Crystal clusters are 4 inches wide and are gorgeous.
The Peace Tree was to focus on Peace within. Sure it would be nice to have "Worldwide Peace". But as I have found, that starts within. You create that "Peace" within and others around you will soon feel it as well. The Peace symbol is in the middle and beautiful copper wire leaves of the tree are amplifying the "Peace" intent. There is more powerful than a strong focused will and intent.
The second tree I call a "Recovery Tree". This one took 170 feet of wire. But it doesn't have all the leaves that the other one did. I made it not necessarily to focus on the "recovery" itself. I made it more to amplify the "growth" that comes through the process of "recovery. It doesn't matter whether the recovery is physically related, mentally or spiritually. Growth is always a very important part of the recovery.
The design has part of the tree bent over, as in bent but not broken. Out of the bend comes a grows a healthy tree. But it is a different kind of tree. This one is "Bonsai" tree design. The Bonsai represents "Spirit" in Japan. What I was trying to show, was the "new growth" that was being experienced during the recovery process. The old portion of the tree, sick part was wilting away, while an entirely new healthy spirit was arising.
The other pictures have some of our customers wearing a "Dragon wearable", we call them "Dragnets", which is something I saw in a vision a few years back. We use rare earth magnets with a receiver to mount it on the person's clothing, hat, etc. They can them adorn their fridge, lampshade, curtain, etc. with the Dragnet. The wings of the Dragon are made of a good quality leather/lamb skin and are adjustable as well.
The Crystal Prisms and other Crystal work is sand etched, by hand by a good friend of ours in Oklahoma. The Sand Dragon, little red material Dragon is hand made by a good friend of ours in St. Paul, Minnesota.
The other Dragons, MJ makes. The big ones take quite awhile to make. The other pictures are our tent at the Renaissance Faires and basic lay out of the booth. MJ and I are standing right next to one of her biggest beautiful pieces. Her Dragons range from 10' - 6Ft. She hand sculpts, hand paints them all. Lastly is MJ working on one of them. She dry brushes each on of them. Dry brushing is a style of painting achieved by using layers of paint to create a overall look of depth to the Art.
http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/Lionheart78/slideshow/
The reason I am finally sharing all this with you is that I see people that come here and put a few hours, days or weeks into this practice, then drop it cold when they don't get favorable results or can't appease their expectations. I wanted to show you some of the possible rewards that can come along with all of the practice, patience and perseverance that it takes to not only succeed once or twice, but to actually make this a welcomed part of your daily life. I can show you how to get to that point, but what happens then is between you and "other".
At the moment I seem to have opened some kind of channel to some deceased "Wire Artist". Every time I work with the wire, I have all kinds of "happy incidents" occur. It's like the wire just knows where to go. Everyday I see new designs in my Phase/soaks and I really enjoy creating these Amplifiers. Years ago I became a "Invisible Helper" over "there", in the other realms. Now I can make a difference here as well.
Thank You for listening. I really enjoyed making this post. It feels right! :-)
The Crystal Amplifier I am currently working will be known as the "Tree of Love". I have some great ideas floating around in my head for that one. The first thing I do when I finish my daily Phase/soak is, I write down whatever I have been shown. There is so much to remember. Oh, and "trust" plays a very important part in the whole process.
Welcome back!
Those dragon designs are very cool. Too bad I'm european lol, but I like dragons too.
On projection well I think the root cause of fails is mostly coming from the fact that people treat this "life" as a religion, which is cool until an extent and people's enthusiam just wears off soon because they just don't have enough will power and aims, or just life purpose to experience that they are much more than their alter ego here and now. Everything is a belief system, therefore religion and people I guess have big expectations from that crapload which they tend to read through the web, what is the NP and what is it for etc. I guess a fair percentage of humans are only ready for experience the wider reality while they live their physical life and I admit it could be very hard when you (me) experience 4-5 non-physical experiences through your sleep only (not speaking about conscious projection yet) and keep your diary on track as meanwhile living your waking physical life. And I'm not speaking about minutes there, it is hours, long long hours and days, seemingly in physical measurement.
Projection attempts and practice is a very dedicated business and if I'm representing myself here and now I know that I'm not so good in conscious attempts because I'm under life stress, a bad family relationship and life situation - I just realized this after 2 years with help. So what I do is try to do whatever takes me on good mood and enjoy myself where and how I can in my daily life. If we have huge pressure on us personally in life, it can ruin the whole practice I guess with only a thought because that excrement goes on and on in the background in our mind. But meanwhile I extract just enough experiences through my sleep that I always have more questions than answers lol, and NP can be way more real than the physical plane. Well my focus improved but not enough strong I guess.
I won't write much here because I know too surely that people get on the chance and share their beliefs and viewpoints again and every thread goes on them now since a while, which won't help anybody.
Philidan. thank you for your reply and kind words! :-) I agree with what you say. You must be dedicated to this, that's if you wish it to become a regular part/occurrence in your life.
I feel the reason people are failing is because they are expecting everything yesterday. Today's World has become a place where everything must happen "now".
Last night on Coast to Coast AM, Eben Alexander and his partner Karen Newell were George's guests. Eben was talking about his NDE experience and what he learned through it and how it opened the door to his binaural beat program "Sacred Acoustics".
https://www.sacredacoustics.com/pages/our-story
I could tell he was having the same problem that all AP authors and teachers on non physical exploration do and that's that people expect results immediately or they file this as a bunch of garbage. He spoke of how repetition is a form of Brain Entrainment in itself and how important that is to the entire process.
Many people that have used my Doorway technique, have gotten back to me with some favorable response. The 7 people I was teaching before are all off on their own now. It is up to them whether or not they continue what they have been taught. As I have seen, my technique is just a guideline. The people I have taught used it to get to where they are. Then they tailored it to fit something they were more comfortable with. Like I said, the directional focus was only lengthy in the beginning while learning it. Now that that they have repeated it so many times, the disassociation process only takes about 5 minutes to do at the start of a session. It is already "entrained" into their minds. A simple thought on direction immediately creates results. it is immediately followed with either a visual or tactile sensation. Many times both.
I just found this great thread by Szaxx, a Moderator here. He reiterates the Importance of practice, practice, practice and where it leads to.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/to_the_door_perfecly-t36502.0.html
Lumaza,
I finally got to see your artwork. Wow! You and MJ are very talented. Those dragons are amazing and the crystals and trees are so cool! Wished I lived closer to come and see them in person. Personally, I think you guys should be starting a website and selling them online as well.
Back to the topic, I seem to be stuck. I can get to the point where I am seeing imagery but I either snap back to the physical or I fall asleep. Just not sure how to avoid those two scenarios. Other times I will feel rapid movement and for some reason I can't just go with it. Whenever I get the falling sensation my body jerks back to wakefulness. My last one happened a few nights ago as I was sitting on the sofa listening to a Hemi-Sync title. I felt very rapid movement backwards like the feeling you get if you were riding on a train and sitting so you were looking towards the caboose and watching the landscape go by in reverse. My body just seems to tense up and it's all over! :-(
Hello T-Man, thanks for the kind words! :-)
Reading your post, I see your first problem is you are practicing in bed/couch, lying down. For now, try to use a comfortable chair, like a Lazy Boy. All your life you have programmed your mind that bed is for sleep. Hence your going to sleep problem.
Snapping back to the physical shows the lack of really letting go. You came to a point in the session, whereas, you took a quick peek at what your physical body was doing. You may think you lost the whole session. But I only see those things as "speedbumps". If you are already relaxed, you can get right back into "depth" very quickly.
I have had times where a noise, itch or something has jolted me out of my focus. I just calmly fix the situation and return back to what I was doing.
Myself, my way is to create the proper atmosphere, mental focus, then I let back even further and just watch as thing begin to happen. I know when to join the scene because I am already there.
I should have added that to my FAQ's above because others have been asking me "when is the right time to enter the scene?". I always say you will know because you will already be "there".
Are you consciously focusing on a full body separation or are you using more of a Phasing/Noticing approach. That makes a big difference in the way I should further answer your questions. What's your technique?
I just finished my daily Phase/soak in the bathtub session. Before I did though, while reading a PDF of Astral Projection for about an hour, I had Paul Collier's music on in the background. He has some great tracks, today I listened to # 85 "Defragment Your Mind" and #54 "Earth". Both are unique in their own ways. My favorite ones though that really get me primed for exploration are back to back #45 and #46, which are "Facing the Unknown" and "Taken Up Into The Sky".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaqCTuUv5cw&list=PL48627FA5F1896833&index=45
He does have some good Binaural Beats in that playlist too. I enjoy Binaural Beats/Isochronic tones with a musical accompaniment, unlike the mono tones boring ones.
Back to my session. I jumped into my bath closed my eyes and began a very quick 6 pt focus. While focusing on forward and feeling like I was moving down a tunnel, the entire imagery quickly changed. I saw a bird in the distance. It got quite vivid really fast. He was flying towards me. He was brightly colored and I figured him to be a small parrot. He then veered to my left and kept flying towards me. Unknowingly, my left eye began to follow his flight. He kept wide to the left, which kind of forced me to strain my left eye. My left eye nerve is the starting point of my Trigeminal Neuralgia. So immediately my left eye nerve tweaked hard. The bird then actually said "Squack, you are still using your eyes, don't do that. I immediately realized the bird was right, but that the bird was also my guide/higher self, whatever label you want to use.
I had thought that the priming that Paul Collier's music had done was enough, but I was wrong. It took me about a minute of 6pt focus to think I was deep enough that I wasn't using my physical eyes. It's important to learn to use your "3rd eye/brow eye, mind's eye, whatever you wish to call it when you project.
Your guide/higher self is always there. Many times it comes through when you least expect it. Always be open to it though. Be aware of everything. Your higher self knows what's best for you. Take my Trigeminal Neuralgia for instance. It taught me Tibetan Dream Yoga and during a full blown attack, it forces me to close my eyes and relax. Although painful at times, it does have it's perks. I don't take pills for it anymore as well. I have learned to control it without those pills. Mind over matter.
Wow, you're alive Lumaza, cool lol. :-D Not sure how much you sold those trees for but I would buy one for sure...the first tree on the green crystal being my fav. Beautiful man.
Quote from: Yodad on October 19, 2017, 18:11:09
Wow, you're alive Lumaza, cool lol. :-D Not sure how much you sold those trees for but I would buy one for sure...the first tree on the green crystal being my fav. Beautiful man.
Thanks Yodad! :-) My first trees averaged about $45. My new trees took many hours and a lot of work and will likely be a bit over a $100. The Crystals alone cost me almost $20 each. The wire used about $10 wholesale, for the two of them. The rest is all labor and time.
Believe it or not, that Crystal is clear as day. It's not green at all. For some reason, the camera I was using decided it should be! :-P MJ liked the glow, so we kept those pictures.
Lumaza,
Thanks for your response. I don't typically use my bed for any practice sessions. On occasion I will lie down on the sofa and listen to a Hemi-sync title but this is usually when I'm tired and just want to relax. Maybe I shouldn't do that at all. When I do intend to practice I am usually sitting on the sofa and listening to my Hemi-Sync. I don't have a comfortable chair like a Lazy Boy recliner but it is on my 'To Buy List' for this exact purpose. Other than an OBE I had a couple of decades ago I have only experienced one full body separation OBE which happened a year ago and this happened while I was napping on the sofa. I was dreaming I was in the water and it felt like something was grabbing my leg. It was when I realized it was a pillow on the sofa that was touching my leg that I separated from my body. I have never experienced or shall I say been aware of sleep paralysis and this one time is the only time I have ever felt vibrations go thru my body. I know these aren't necessarily required to haven an OBE. I have never experienced LD's before until I came to this site last year. Since then I have experienced many of them. So, progress is being made.
As for the technique I use while practicing, I have been working on the Phasing/Noticing approach. I have read thru this thread multiple times trying different techniques. I am usually trying some sort of motion technique such as being on a swing, or paddling a canoe. Sometimes I try to imagine myself already out of the body. I will see my body sitting in a chair in the middle of the room and my awareness will be on the outside of the room say 15-20 feet from my body and I will start moving and circling my body in the chair. I will than try to speed that motion up. I have had varied success with the motion techniques. Like I said previously, I get to the imagery but either fall asleep or get snapped back to the Physical.
Lately, I have been trying to really open myself up to my community of guidance and to feel the connections to them as well as my intuition. Prior to this I had a Lucid Dream whereby I got to meet about 20 of them at a reception that they held for me. I was amazed at how many people were there. I got to talk to a couple of them but I was told that most did not want to interact with me because it would spoil things for me down the road. Your experience you had with the parrot telling you to stop using your eyes was similar to a very recent dream I had where I was told in my dream and I quote: "...is what shuts down your experiences!'. For the life of me I don't remember what was said. I guess I am not really listening to my guidance! LOL! It really isn't hard to fill in the blanks but if there is something in particular I wish I would figure it out.
I will keep at the techniques and I will really try to let go. If I hit those speed bumps like snapping back I will continue to just relax and head back from where I came. If I fall asleep than there's nothing wrong with getting a little extra zzz's!
T-man, the only problem I could see here is that you are attempting 2 different exit techniques at the same time.
Phasing in my view, is when you are in the act of "noticing". You are setting the stage by "disassociation" from the body. When I am viewing something like watching the "pace car" scenario for instance, I am following it, but not as a physical form. When I Phase, I always think of myself as a point of consciousness and that means there are absolutely no "barriers"
You seem to be focusing on a RTZ (real time zone) actual exit from the body. Which means you are still focused indirectly on your body.
Try using one or the other or now. You will lesson the confusion and be able to focus 100% on your chosen technique. I find if you are working on a more of a RTZ style of exit, begin by focusing on your breathing and feeling the expansion and retraction that comes with it. On every breathe magnify the feeling or energy wave of that act. Example inhale/expansion, exhale/retraction. You can get your body feeling pretty large while doing this and sometimes it will just lead to a traditional OBE exit. Stay focused on it throughout though. After you have "exited", you won't even realize your breathing anymore. You won't need it there. But have no fear, your body will automatically take over the job of breathing itself, just as it does each night when you go to sleep.
Meditation itself will improve your LDing abilities. Get yourself into a regular cycle of Phasing or having OBEs and you will find your ability to become lucid in your Dreams will improve exponentially. Even a failed Phase/OBE session has calmed your mind and opened your awareness that much further.
Lumaza,
Just for clarification I have been trying the phasing technique and my intent was not on the RTZ exit. I think I have just been confused in this thread. You have mentioned earlier in this thread about rowing a boat, swinging back and forth in a hammock, ping pong effect in your 6 pt focus, etc. I think these examples have confused me about the phasing technique. I will give up on my motion focus and will have to start over and go back to the basics.
Thanks for pointing out where I am going wrong with my techniques. :-)
Quote from: T-Man on October 20, 2017, 19:26:01
Lumaza,
Just for clarification I have been trying the phasing technique and my intent was not on the RTZ exit. I think I have just been confused in this thread. You have mentioned earlier in this thread about rowing a boat, swinging back and forth in a hammock, ping pong effect in your 6 pt focus, etc. I think these examples have confused me about the phasing technique. I will give up on my motion focus and will have to start over and go back to the basics.
Thanks for pointing out where I am going wrong with my techniques. :-)
T-Man, I came to that conclusion because of this portion of your exercise that you wrote on that former post. "Sometimes I try to imagine myself already out of the body. I will see my body sitting in a chair in the middle of the room and my awareness will be on the outside of the room say 15-20 feet from my body and I will start moving and circling my body in the chair. I will than try to speed that motion up. "
Moving away from the body 15-20 feet is well known thing for a traditional OBE. Szaxx talks about that in his "Blueprint" thread found here. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html
My rowing a boat, swinging, ping pong, etc, exercises. are based on motion. The accompanying visuals though begin as imaginative. They start that way, but soon begin to morph into new scenes, not your design or the scene disappears all together and you find yourself in some other place that you need to see.. At that point I stay with the visual and new scenario and see it for what it has to show. Many times you will find that you become part of the scenario itself.
When I first started practicing back in 2011, my focus was on more of a traditional OBE exit from the body. But after reading posts by Frank and others here, it quickly changed to Phasing/noticing.
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I made my Doorway technique to give you something to occupy your time and your mind with until you found yourself just "there". Wherever "there" happened to be. The motion of the exercise does help you to be able to sense more of "etheric form". You are not moving your physical body at all and yet you are feeling real tactile sensations. That "new you" is exactly what you are focused on, not the physical you, which in turn allows the shift in consciousness to occur.
Lumaza,
Thanks for all your feedback! I appreciate the time you spend responding to my posts. I will make some adjustments to my technique and keep on trying. I will head back to door #1. Was that the green door or the orange door? :lol:
I'll keep you posted if I manage to go further than I have.
Quote from: T-Man on October 21, 2017, 01:30:51
Lumaza,
Thanks for all your feedback! I appreciate the time you spend responding to my posts. I will make some adjustments to my technique and keep on trying. I will head back to door #1. Was that the green door or the orange door? :lol:
I'll keep you posted if I manage to go further than I have.
8-)
On Tuesday, November 14th/2017 Bruce Moen transitioned from this realm/physical to the non-physical. In other words, he died. He will be sorely missed. He will have no problems in his next duty on the "other side". He has been in training for quite a while now. He was a very "avid" experiencer. He spent a good portion of his life teaching others as well and was a big part of the Monroe Institute itself. He also wrote a number of books on Astral Projection. His specialty though was "Afterlife" communication and preparation. So, he will be a "natural" there.
http://ofmyownknowledge.com/2017/11/14/bruce-moen/
https://www.morrisnilsen.com/obituary/bruce-a-moen/
I never knew he was from Minnesota though. Bob Peterson is a Minnesotan as well, so am I.
He made this short video back in 2015 and that is why I am posting in the "Doorway" thread here. He always stressed and even built his techniques around the principle of imagination. Well, here is one of those "imagination" sessions, that actually included "physical", verifiable evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDjRJ5NA2jY
Here is a revised version of my Doorway technique. It's based on just the basics that I find important.
I and others have found that a simple and quick relaxing technique, (however you wish to achieve this), followed by a simple disassociation from the body exercise, then ending with a 6 pt directional motion based focus is a very powerful way to achieve the mental frequency needed for a conscious shift to commence.
For the last week now in my own Phase/soak sessions, I have been working on slowing the process of each individual step down further, so I can find helpful things in them to aid people attempting them for the first time.
The first step of the process "Relax" doesn't need much explanation. Robert Monroe's "Conversion Box" visual does very good for releasing the stress of the day and anything else that may be currently bothering you or on your mind at the moment.
Binaural Beats/Isochronic Tones is another great way to alleviate distractions. For Binaural Beats, I love anything from Paul Collier. You can search youtube for his free playlist. It's very good if you enjoy musical accompany with your Bin beats. For Iso Tones, I use anything from DJ Vishnu's Meditation Series. Once again, a name you can search on the web it interested.
Breathing exercises are another great way to relax. So is a quick "Progressive Relaxation" process. My dissociation step is more about targeting locations on the body then it is about relaxing the muscles.
Now to step 2 "Disassociation from the Physical body". We aren't using that for a actual OBE at the moment though. Mainly the focus is on targets on the etheric body.
I learned the importance of this early in my practice. I was doing a Phase session built on just noticing the darkness behind my closed eyes. All of a sudden a strong visual showed my physical body, laid out on some track and I heard the "Pac Man" gobble sound. Next thing I watched all these little Pac Man characters eat away my physical form. Once the whole body had been gobbled up, I felt different somehow. I felt completely liberated from my physical focus.
Another time, I was in a session and saw a outline chock form of my body. Once again teaching me disassociation. I then began starting my next sessions by manually and mentally unzipping my "Human suit". Once the physical body was gone a change in mindset occurred as well. I could now experience everything as a "point of consciousness" with no limitations. My "real time" actual conscious OBEs stopped as well. No longer was I just experiencing "physical" related scenarios, I was experiencing that we in a physical mindset seem to lack any way of describing.
I then used the Disassociation process in another way, which was moving my etheric body away from my physical one. We have a large Willow tree in our back yard approximately 150 feet from the house. I would sit at the computer, close my eyes and try to touch it. I would feel the movement over towards it, Then I would focus on the bark, how it felt. The more "senses" you use, the easier it is to actually separate from yourself.
Somewhere along the line I transitioned to a disassociative process that was based purely on etheric focus. I heard Whitney Strieber on a Radio show and he was explaining his process. I liked what he said. It took parts of what I had learned through Robert Bruce's "NEW" technique. But I don't brush or attempt to move the energy. My goal was to just target the etheric locations on the body. I found this to be the best technique yet to do that. At least the best in my own opinion.
Here is a simple little step by step in that Disassociation process. I will also add some helpful tips to it that I have been finding lately in my own practice of it. All you want to do is focus briefly on the location until you actually feel it/become aware of it.
Left Leg-toes, heel, calf, knee, thigh, hip, the whole leg, then nothing
Right Leg-toes, heel calf, knee, thigh, hip, whole leg, nothing
Left Arm-fingers, hand, elbow, upper arm, all, nothing
Right Arm-fingers, hand, elbow, upper arm, all, nothing
Back-lower, middle upper, all, nothing
Front-stomach, solar plexus, chest, all, nothing
Shoulders Neck, nothing
Head-chin, mouth, eye sockets, 3rd eye/forehead, hair, nothing. You are done.
Tip #1 would be, when you change your focus from one whole appendage to another, the last thought of "nothing", should have you already merging from that last focused location to the next one. This seems to help the "leaving behind of the other". Example, the left leg. You just got to the point where you are aware of the whole leg, now you use the mental command nothing and immediately merge to the next target in this case which is the right foot's toes.
When I focus on the cheeks, I always feel a simile. When I change my focus from my eye sockets to my 3rd eye, I encounter the first shift. This shift is very important because it is the first time in this process that your visuals have shifted from your awaking/physical eyes, to your "mind's eye". You need to learn in this practice to turn off those physical eyes. Otherwise you are just chasing visuals through the physical eyes and because of that, you are straining them.
Don't skip the focus on the hair. You will feel something.
Then immediately move onto step 3 "Thought"
Step 3 "Daydreaming/Losing your in thought, doesn't need much going into. Earlier you may have used the "Conversion Box" or some other technique to rid your "monkey mind". Now we are allowing any remaining monkey mind thinking back in. This will take you further away from your physical focus as well. Just keep your mind on that thought and that thought alone, whether that be your "Happy Place" or whatever you have chosen, perhaps something based on a hobby or yours or some other passion.
Step 4 we are going to change from the "sneak peek" to the 6 pt directional focus. Our 6 pts of focus are on "Forward, backwards, left, right, up and down. This focus alone can create some pretty extraordinary adventures. Like I have said before in these threads, "if you need to be diverted to something else, you will be". Don't fight it, Go with the flow.
There are so many ways to strengthen a directional focus. You could use breathing into the mental thought. You could draw out, as in lengthen the word as you are thinking of it. Example: FFFFFFFOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAARRRRRRDDDDDDDDD. With a strong focus on forward, you will either see some kind of mental associations with the direction, feel it, or both. If you are having problems with any sensing of motion or visuals, start pin balling or ping ponging your focus between the opposite directions. Example Left/Right. Just keep thinking left/right. Now speed that thought up. Pretty soon you will feel a actual etheric motion as your thoughts switch between the two directions. I very rarely have to do this. But once in awhile I do need to kick start the process. Another great way to kick start the process is to visualize something pertaining to your chosen directional focus. Example: I could use the visualization of moving forward in some form of vessel. My favorite being a Rollercoaster. In the past I have just maintained the Rollercoaster scenario for a entire session. I may start the visual via imagination. But I relinquish that control as fast as I can and just enjoy the ride, until it morphs into something else. A driving simulation is a great visual as well. It gets especially intense when you use the driving simulation for a "backwards" focus. See how long you can maintain that. I always have unique experiences with that one.
Explore each direction. Get used to the feeling that follow the mental command or thought. This is no race. Spend as much time as you wish on each step. Get used to the feeling. Pay attention to how your awareness is being altered. Especially pay attention to the darkness before your eyes. Has it change? Do you feel a new depth? I notice the darkness begins flat. But somewhere along the line, the darkness is showing dimension. This is where we want to be before we proceed to the last step, which is the actual targeting of the chosen Doorway. You are now in realm where thought = action. There is no need to see the basketball in your hand. You can just shoot it at the hoop in front of you. Because we have rid our physical mindset as well, there is no need to reach to a Door to open it. Just think of what may be inside and you are there.
Step 5, the brief sneak peek is for doubters like me. I used to doubt everything every step of the way. Early in my practice, I had problems when I found myself on the apex of a shift in consciousness. I would put 45 minutes of just noticing the darkness before my eyes. Exit symptoms would then begin and the next thing, it felt like my physical eyes were opening. This totally destroyed all my work. So, to rectify the problem I began using a sleep mask when I practiced. This proved to me that any light, any visuals I was experiencing were of a "NP" (non physical) nature. Every contention or block should I say that was put in front of me, I had to overcome.
I found that if I did the above steps above, that I was always deep enough, that a quick little sneak peek back art my physical body wouldn't hurt. That soon led into me developing the ability to hold a dual awareness when I wanted to. It also showed me the level of depth I had achieved.
If you find it troublesome, you can skip that entire process and move onto the chosen Doorway target. In this case now, being the "Basic Training" room.
I hope this helps people attempting this process further.
Thank You
I saw this post and it led me back to your doorway thread and a lot more details. Great inspiration 8-)
Quote from: Lumaza on February 13, 2018, 10:12:50
Phasing is a "conscious" shift from A to B. that is undergone by completely turning your focus away from A. How you do that is up to you. Once you do it, your entire focus will be on B, unless you have the ability to maintain a dual awareness and not have A bother you at all.
My Doorway program has been adapted to these steps.
My steps being
#1-Relax
#2-Etheric body awareness/Disassociation from the Physical Body
#3-Daydream, lose yourself in thought. Example: your "Happy Place"
#4-Very brief physical body "sneak peak"
#5-6 point directional focus. Motion
#6-Basic Training, Candle flame visual
#4 may seem unorthodox, but I have a reason for each step. I tried to eliminate the early"visual" aspect of the practice. Instead, by becoming proficient in this process, you will find that visuals are no problems anymore. My process doesn't use intended imagery until you are deep enough that visualizing becomes automatic. Which would be step 6. You will find though that each step will lead to "mental associations".
I have tested this and tweaked it according to results I personally found and those that I had using it in the past for the last couple of years now.
Quote from: Yodad on March 27, 2018, 03:39:02
I saw this post and it led me back to your doorway thread and a lot more details. Great inspiration 8-)
Thanks! I hope something there helps you and others here.
Like I said above the steps that I find that are important are # 1 Relax, #2 Disassociation and #3 Motion based 6 pt focus. The other steps are basically things that myself and others have reported had occurred during the Doorway practice.
For some reason, after the step #2, disassociation, the mind tends to want to wander. Hence why I give this time to go let it wander and lose yourself in thought.
The sneak peek, was basically something that was shown to me to prove that I was already deep enough and that I could move on to the "adventure" part of the experience, which in this case is opening Doorways/portals. It also taught me how to hold a focus based on dual awareness.
The candle flame visual was just a target that I could keep my focus on. The candle visual quickly morphed into a whole different scenario.
The thing with a exercise like this is you need to know when to abort the technique in general and "go with the flow". An example of this would be, I am doing the 6pt focus targeting the direction forward. I soon find weak visuals starting to show some kind of movement forward, akin to a roller coaster ride. I soon lose that visual. Do I bring it back? Not right now. The visual was so foggy and weak that if I bring it back I am creating the new image/scenario solely by consciously imagining it. Meaning, I am driving the scene. Now, if I was targeting the same direction and the scenario became vivid quickly and began taking on it's own life, I will lock onto that scenario and follow it where it wants to go. I will totally "allow" it to take shape.
If at any time a needed message needs to be directed towards me, it will instantly override my whole scenario. I know how people don't like this technique because it seems to omit "spiritualism". But I find if that is what you need to see, you will see it. My Doorway technique is there to occupy you brain while the natural shift occurs.
Sometimes you will find that everything just "clicks on all cylinders" and it's easy to achieve a strong NP focus. Other times it feels like a battle. Just like sometimes one of the directions in the 6pt directional focus seems to be stronger than the others. When that happens, go back to it. Ride it as long as you can. If your fighting it, stop, abort the session. There is always tomorrow! :wink: There's no use beating a dead Horse.
I just completed my daily Phase/soak session. I began as usual, easing into the water and lying back. I then did about a 2 minute progressive relaxation rundown.
Instead of moving into the next step, which is the focus on direction/motion, using a 6 pt directional focus, I focused on just a simple white line. To see it, I had to look through the darkness. As in It being on the other side, if you get my meaning.
I began with just the visual of the line lying horizontally, left to right, about 2 feet in front of me. Once I could get a good visual on it, I mentally turned to a vertical position, going straight up and down. I began moving the line all over the place. I started at the lower left hand corner, then worked up to the top left, over to right bottom and top right. Basically covering all the directions. The thing is, I didn't have to always view the line there, I could sense it as well. I knew it was there. So now to the mental trigger. I then put the line front to back over top of my head, about a foot above it. ...then I was off. That mental trigger put me right out of body, almost instantly, like a cannon.
Robert Monroe used lines in his techniques as well. He kept it really simple though. You saw it in front of you vertically, then tipped it up over your head. He found the "mental trigger" there as well. There is something to the putting your focus on your 3rd eye area or above your head that just immediately creates a impulse. This impulse may begin faded and hard to see. It might just come from a totally tactile way as well. It's almost like a switch has been turned on.
I guess in a way, you could see it a the transition from Focus 10 to Focus 12 that Robert and Frank spoke often about. Regardless, it works.
Here is that transition being described by Frank, when a member asks him if there is any difference between a Focus 10 ad Focus 12.
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Originally posted by napoleon:
Is there any difference between Focus 10 and Focus 12 ?
Yes, a distinct difference.
Focus 10 is where you have retreated from the physical about 85 to 90%. You still have an awareness that somewhere "back there" is a physical body. You are aware that you have one, but aren't really interested in it, and receiving next to no input from its physical senses. Your mind is awake and alert, but your focal point of consciousness is contained in what feels like a black 2-dimensional compartment somewhere about the centre of your head.
The primary difference between Focus 10 and Focus 12 is the 2D blackness becomes 3 dimensional. In other words, you get a sensation of an opening up of space, all around you. It's like if you suddenly found yourself in an unfamiliar room, where you were standing in the middle, and there was no light whatsoever. You wouldn't have any spatial awareness at all. All you'd see would be a 2-dimensional blackness before your eyes.
Now, say, someone very slowly began to turn on a light. There would come a point where you'd begin to see abstract shadows. Then, as the light got steadily brighter, the shadows would become more distinct and you'd begin to recognise basic shapes. This is what Focus 12 is like.
People perceive the state slightly differently, but the primary difference is the fact that the 2 dimensional blackness becomes 3 dimensional. Which gives you a distinct feeling of spatial awareness. You can't really see much at this stage, just indistinct shadows, or maybe whirls of foggy sort-of darkness. But, as I say, you cannot miss the *distinct* feeling of spatial awareness that comes about.
From Focus 12, it's like the light progressively gets brighter. Taking the room analogy a step further, as the light got slowly brighter, there would come a point where you'd recognise some object, previously perceived as an indistict shadow, as a chair (say). But you wouldn't know the colour of the fabric or the pattern (if any). As the light got brighter still, you'd start making out that there might be a pattern on the fabric, but you still wouldn't be able to see the colour. As the brightness increased, there would come a point where everything would come into view. This is Focus 21
Yours,
Frank"
Lastly, I wanted to add this reply given by a member here named Jeff Mash, years ago. The thread was based on a "Triangle Technique". I found very inspirational and true.
"A lot of beginners get discouraged because they try to project, and then when "nothing" happens, they feel like they're just wasting their time.
However, GreatOutdoors, you are realizing a very important point. Every time you practice projecting, and every exercise you do is only bringing you CLOSER to success. It may not SEEM like it, but you must believe it.
For example, you may lay down and after practicing a few OBE relaxation exercises, you begin to see some cool hypnogogic imagery. However, if that is all you see, then smile and know that you're getting better and better in developing your technique. I think too many people would discount the hypnogogic stuff and feel a sense of failure for not feeling vibrations, or separating from their body.
So yes, the dog barking you heard was a good thing. You may not have had a full blown OBE, but you are making contact with that part of your subconscious which is navigating you to the threshold of having a fully conscious OBE! Keep it up."
In other words, "don't give up". Every attempt you make gets you that much closer.
My computer is objecting, so forgive me...
I attempted the Monroe technique when I was 13; it was, as you described, a tech for drawing a line six feet out from my nose, then turning it upwards and backwards at a 45 degree angle, to a point about nine feet above my head...and he said to "feel" for it there...the tactile sense you mention. And sure enough, the second time I tried it, I got a response...enough of a response that I was shocked back to my physical body and the classical vibrations...which were so strong they scared the crap out of me; it felt like every atom in my body was shaking apart and breaking down. At age 13, this was a significant wake-up call. Lol.
I appreciate the added context on F10, F12 and F21 experience...that should help generally.
Third Eye and Crown Chakra and above...those are always good focus points...they only seem important in an intellectual sense until you get an experience that irrefutably places it there... then they become much more important. So many of us have already had experiences there.
Thanks for this Lumaza!
I am currently working on a program for a man I consider my Son. He recently had a life altering event occur. He broke his neck and now is paralyzed in areas. He will come back from it though. My current goal was to teach him how to "defer" his pain to other areas of his body.
I was in a Phase/soak session this afternoon and began trying. I wanted him to learn how to move his focus around his body. Once he became good at that, we would move it to areas "out of his body". He has never meditated before and was not open to any of this conversation in the past. Right now, he is open to everything.
So, I closed my eyes and laid back in the water and relaxed. About 5 minutes in, I began moving energy, I'm sure it was "Etheric" to different areas of my body. A idea then came to me to begin targeting areas of the bathroom. So, I attempted to see my sink, then my bathroom cabinets. I began targeting all different areas and one was our bathroom mirror. It is approximately 4 feet wide, by 2 1/2 feet tall. But, it takes up a lot of the bathroom viewing room. We also have about a 2 1/2 foot tall bathroom window in there. We don't have curtains on it, just like we don't have any curtains on any window in the home. We live in the country and enjoy the openness of it. We find it actually heightens the awareness to be able to see/view the outside and inside at the same time.
Back to my focus. I began targeting just the corners of the room. I wanted to see all angles. While sweeping along, every time I saw the mirror, I could see a developing scene in it. I ignored that though for now and kept targeting corners and cabinets and things. Then I went targeted the window and saw that I could project outside it. Once again I ignored that and kept pinballing my focus around the bathroom. Sometimes the places I was seeing felt like they were being seen from my current vantage point.
I then stopped and went back to just the mirror. There was swirls of colors, spiral vortexes, all kind of unique things. I allowed that focus to take me deeper and so it did.
I found that this "targeting" I was doing to be a very fast and easy to achieve method of NP focus.
When I was finished, I opened my eyes and saw my shower curtains were closed and my bathroom mirror was steamed over, unlike what my NP visions had portrayed. Everything began as imaginary targeting, but it didn't take long to morph anew.
Once my Son gets good at the deferring pain, I will teach him how to exit his body to find mental solace as well.
I hope this works for you. Try it. No, just don't try it, "do/achieve it".
I need to practice this deferring pain thing myself. I know I can do it I just need to remember to do it. Cool with the mirror, me thinks you might be in for a mind-blowing experience soon.
Hugs
I was using this type of technique before. When I found myself focusing on the painful areas of my body, the pain increased, so I decided to focus my attention and for fun try to make my lips bigger LOL. So I focused on my lips and I was trying to hold my focus on them throughout the day. I would feel tingling sensation there and at times I felt like they had botox in them, like getting bigger an harder. I It was funny though, so it worked for me. And I think they had gotten physically bigger, no joke haha. The idea also is that sometimes we try to heal certain areas and we focus on it, but at the same time we are acknowledging that there is something wrong and we reinforce that. Instead, we have to feel our body overall strong and think that we are extremely strong and healthy and move on with daily activities, keeping busy and entertained.
Quote from: Nameless on August 04, 2018, 20:40:43
I need to practice this deferring pain thing myself. I know I can do it I just need to remember to do it. Cool with the mirror, me thinks you might be in for a mind-blowing experience soon.
Hugs
My "disassociation" from the physical vessel technique is a great way to start. It aids to that kind of control and continued "brain entrainment".
Quote from: LightBeam on August 04, 2018, 22:23:18
I was using this type of technique before. When I found myself focusing on the painful areas of my body, the pain increased, so I decided to focus my attention and for fun try to make my lips bigger LOL. So I focused on my lips and I was trying to hold my focus on them throughout the day. I would feel tingling sensation there and at times I felt like they had botox in them, like getting bigger an harder. I It was funny though, so it worked for me. And I think they had gotten physically bigger, no joke haha. The idea also is that sometimes we try to heal certain areas and we focus on it, but at the same time we are acknowledging that there is something wrong and we reinforce that. Instead, we have to feel our body overall strong and think that we are extremely strong and healthy and move on with daily activities, keeping busy and entertained.
Hmm, I never thought of focusing on my "lips". But just like the other appendages, it an still be a target of focus. It's interesting that you got the actual sensation of growth and hardness. Do you think that was being felt "Etherically"?
Quote from: Lumaza on August 04, 2018, 23:39:57
Do you think that was being felt "Etherically"?
No, very physical. I wasn't doing this technique during meditation, just as I went about my day, fully awake. Try focusing on any part pf your body and you will start feeling sensations. Our cells respond to our thoughts, because our emotions trigger the nerve signals. It's very physiological.
About a month ago I began targeting a certain area in the NP. I begin lying in the water of my bathtub, closing my eyes, then doing some progressive relaxation for a few minutes. That is then followed by either my "disassociation" technique or just losing myself in thought, normally by working on some new Crystal Amplifier designs.
By now I am well primed and ready to explore. I have absolutely no sense of physical sensations and my consciousness is focused 100 % on the task at hand.
I then begin to focus on "the Park". Robert Monroe spoke of this area and I find it to be a great "walkthrough" technique. I don't rush it though. I begin by focusing on just a plain bridge. All I can see at this point is a very grainy wooden plank of the bridge. I keep my focus there until it becomes more vivid. Once I can take in more of the bridge, I begin to cross it.
The trick to this visualization thing is you need to know when to hold a image and when not to. You also need to learn to observe, but not "direct" the outcome. This means that if I see a flash of a motorcycle or something like that, I am not going to "force" that image to return. I will just await what's next. If the image of the motorcycle returns, I will "allow" the scene to further develop, but once again, I won't steer or direct it. What this does is removes the "expectation" from the equation.
I soon get to the other side and first I focus on just a small patch of grass in this new area. Slowly I begin looking up and taking in more of the scene. The park seems to change from time to time, But one thing that is usually present is a "park bench". I don't want to "frontload" anyone here, so I won't share what the park looks like to me. Like I said, it often changes, but the benches remain.
I usually wait and just take in more of the sights and sounds of this new area. Somewhere along the line, I find myself joined by another curious "soul". This new person/entity can take on any form. It's not always Human. But we chat with each other just the same. Many times by telepathy. Sometimes I feel I am hearing with ears as well.
I know many people have targeted this "Park" setting, in Robert's teachings. I know that people will and can perceive it totally different as well. But the "thought", the focus, the idea of the Park has given it strength and because of that, I have a feeling that many people can access this area.
So, come and join me in "the Park" sometime! See who else is there. From what I have seen, it is a very large park! :-) It seems to have everything and anything that a developing consciousness needs to see and experience.
I'd love to reach "The Park" one day. It is 'also' in Focus27, right?
Quote from: Volgerle on August 06, 2018, 23:07:57
I'd love to reach "The Park" one day. It is 'also' in Focus27, right?
Keep "targeting" it and some day it will happen. I find all this daily work to be a excellent form of "brain entrainment". But, I have had many "happy accidents" along the way. Reach for the stars, even if you hit the clouds, it's still progress. One day though, you will reach that
"Star".
I think it is in or is what would be known as Focus 27. I used to target my happy place, which to me was always a tropical Island paradise beach scenario. Earlier in my explorations, I used my "happy place" or should I say, I "found" that my happy place was some kind of training grounds.
One time while exploring this Island setting, I found that on the other side of the Island was what would be considered the Focus 27 locale. The White Cathedral like building was there as well. That is the place I have found myself returning to after a success Retrieval. Initially, I began targeting that tropical Island paradise after seeing the Astral Island thread years ago here. It is still one of my favorite places to "be".
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Quote from: Plume on August 10, 2018, 06:29:49
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In my last couple of daily Phase/soak sessions, I have perceived the Park in different ways.
A few days ago while targeting it, I found the bridge to be very rickety and run down. When I saw the Park, I saw that the area was different. It was the same Park, but it seemed like it lost it's grooming. Tall grass completely blocked out much of it. It looked like no one had attended this area for years. I saw the benches were still there though. They also looked run down and ragged.
So, I went to the task of "Caretaker" and began to clean it up. I knew for some reason that I had to use somewhat of a "physical ruleset" to make the changes. So, I began with a simple lawnmower and watched as other crews joined in the mass clean-up. It took awhile to do, but we got it back to the way I was used to seeing it. I figured this to be some kind of test and when I finally ended the session, I found that the water in my bath was bordering on luke warm. I must have been in that "projection" for over a hour. I enjoyed it though.
In today's session, I found the bridge to be the challenge. I began walking across it and found that the further I got, the weaker it got, until there was no boards at all and I felt like I was walking on air. I normally experience my Phase sessions as a simple point of consciousness with no need for a physical vessel. But for some reason, it's not that way when I target the "Park". Why? I have no idea. When I walk, I feel each step and the motion of walking as well. As a point of consciousness, the sense of movement is much more smooth and fluid.
Quote from: Lumaza on August 11, 2018, 08:13:11
In my last couple of daily Phase/soak sessions, I have perceived the Park in different ways.
A few days ago while targeting it, I found the bridge to be very rickety and run down. When I saw the Park, I saw that the area was different. It was the same Park, but it seemed like it lost it's grooming. Tall grass completely blocked out much of it. It looked like no one had attended this area for years. I saw the benches were still there though. They also looked run down and ragged.
So, I went to the task of "Caretaker" and began to clean it up. I knew for some reason that I had to use somewhat of a "physical ruleset" to make the changes. So, I began with a simple lawnmower and watched as other crews joined in the mass clean-up. It took awhile to do, but we got it back to the way I was used to seeing it. I figured this to be some kind of test and when I finally ended the session, I found that the water in my bath was bordering on luke warm. I must have been in that "projection" for over a hour. I enjoyed it though.
In today's session, I found the bridge to be the challenge. I began walking across it and found that the further I got, the weaker it got, until there was no boards at all and I felt like I was walking on air. I normally experience my Phase sessions as a simple point of consciousness with no need for a physical vessel. But for some reason, it's not that way when I target the "Park". Why? I have no idea. When I walk, I feel each step and the motion of walking as well. As a point of consciousness, the sense of movement is much more smooth and fluid.
Maybe those changes are reflections of your subconscious being recently touched by negative emotions, caused by events in your life.
Quote from: baro-san on August 12, 2018, 02:04:22
Maybe those changes are reflections of your subconscious being recently touched by negative emotions, caused by events in your life.
That could be. But though I was concerned, I still understand the reason for the recent calamity that hit our lives here. That understanding is what tames any negative emotions.
Since my targeting of this Park scenario seems to create some very vivid experiences lately, I wanted to share today's as well,
I began relaxing into the water for my Phase/soak session. I did a quick progressive relaxation tech, to relieve some nagging shoulder issues I had, then kind of lost myself in thought for a few minutes.
When I snapped out of that, I began to target the Park. Tis time, the bridge was a paved cement one. There were two lanes and a yellow road divider. On the right hand side was a "pedestrian" bridge crossing area. This area was screened/fenced in and there were a number of people walking in this area. They all seemed like "Zombies" though. It wasn't there actually physical look, it was the lack of emotion or any kind of facial response, conversation, etc.
It was a long walk. Once I finally got across the bridge, I saw a very vibrant full of life park scene. The people that were walking on the bridge were now involved in some kind of fun activity in this park. There was people throwing Frisbee's. a few enjoying a group volley with a volleyball. There was people swinging, chatting with others, happiness everywhere. Once in awhile, I saw a small group of people just materialize, like they had walked in through some kind of invisible Portal. They would then walk up to a person in the Park, talk with them, hugging etc. for a bit, then would turn around and walk back to the walkway and everyone in the party would then disappear into this invisible void again. I watched this for awhile and kind of understood it as the family members of a transitioned soul, coming for them.
There also seemed to be some kind of "Counsellors" or some kind of control team there. They were the ones sitting on the park benches and only got up when needed. I saw a few of the people that made it across the bridge, lose their mind, freak out and go into a panic. That's when the Counselors or what I saw as the "Recovery Team" move into action. I observed this for quite a while, then returned my focus back to my physical self and ended the session.
Today in the park, everyone I saw had a Human physical form. I didn't see any "Others", I like to call them, as in alien forms.
I have been questioned by people here via PMs, how I keep such a lock on and how I can keep a scene going for such a long period of time. Many people that experience Astral projections, tell how it is such a brief experience. My answer is always "Become a good observer". Just watch everything for now. You don't need to control everything all the time. Most of these areas aren't centered around just you. You also need to learn to control your fears, your ego, your lust and any other "vanities" you have. That's quite a load right there. At the moment though, you are just "there" observing.
:-) yes it's a lot to do just observe, I feel that it is a training on it own that really needs to be applied all day. Not always easy but you know you can be that observer if you actually observe how you feel and react when you are in a situation throughout the day. :roll: like I said not always easy, I fall often into the drama and just feel so frustrated, but I know it in those opportunities that I learn to become a better observer. Avoiding people is also not the best training even if I would prefer to be alone all the time. So I came to the conclusion that I need to go out more and be of this world for all in the name of training myself to be a better observer and less a drama queen :-D :roll: Jeez ! Where shoul I go first ....Walmart or Tim Horton for a nice coffee? 8-) or maybe at a mall with my mom to get a nice ride in a wheelchair and look at all the things we can buy but don't need :lol: actually I need something with kitchen relate things , my favorite store now that I am on a diet...go figure... just got a dehydrator and boy oh boy it's fun.
Tourloo
Quote from: Lumaza on August 12, 2018, 07:45:36
... I began relaxing into the water for my Phase/soak session. I did a quick progressive relaxation tech, to relieve some nagging shoulder issues I had, then kind of lost myself in thought for a few minutes. ...
I read today a paragraph that reminded me of your phase/soak method:
Itzhak Bentov was a mechanical engineer, inventor, author and mystic and explorer of cosmic consciousness.
He was able to combine his curious mind with a courageous soul to explore the unknown realms of cosmic consciousness with just wit and humor as his luggage. His plan was to publish some of his work as a comic strip instead of a cosmic trip! Bentov had two ways to prepare himself for his "trips," which were not drug-induced.
Initially, like Archimedes, he used the "wet method" of soaking in a bathtub full of hot water, going into a "twilight zone" to get flashes or ideas that he scribbled down on a notepad. Later he favored the "drier method" of meditation and relaxed concentration. He wrote:
"I could attain remote reality by simply visualizing myself to be there, and there I was..."
Quote from: baro-san on August 28, 2018, 05:21:18
I read today a paragraph that reminded me of your phase/soak method:
Itzhak Bentov was a mechanical engineer, inventor, author and mystic and explorer of cosmic consciousness.
He was able to combine his curious mind with a courageous soul to explore the unknown realms of cosmic consciousness with just wit and humor as his luggage. His plan was to publish some of his work as a comic strip instead of a cosmic trip! Bentov had two ways to prepare himself for his "trips," which were not drug-induced.
Initially, like Archimedes, he used the "wet method" of soaking in a bathtub full of hot water, going into a "twilight zone" to get flashes or ideas that he scribbled down on a notepad. Later he favored the "drier method" of meditation and relaxed concentration. He wrote:
"I could attain remote reality by simply visualizing myself to be there, and there I was..."
Thank you for the share Baro-san! 8-) :-)
I have only been back a few days, from my State Fair vendor gig. I did immediately attempt to get some info on "Itzhak". First I looked for your tube videos and found this one here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReZt1YcFehQ
Unfortunately, I was so tired, I only made it through about 15 mins of it before I found I had went to sleep. His part is very good. The lady after him, seems to be what lulled me to sleep. Her voice seems to be very relaxing, lol. Itzhak was hard to understand at first. So, I had to really focus on what he was saying. He likes to use graphs though. Those were interesting.
Two more unique experiences that occurred during my Phase/soak sessions. The first one was yesterday and I didn't write anything about that one while answering ScHMUSTIN's question about "Tug-o-wars".
I got into my tub of hot water, closed my eyes and kind of melted into it. I spent a few moments just enjoying the relaxation of it all. I then began my daily ritual, which is to do my healing modality focus. I use the Mantra "RA MA DA SA SA SAY SO HUNG". I mentally repeat it 3 times, then I will focus on whoever I wish to help. I have used many Mantras in the past, but for some reason, thins one seems to just resonate with me. You can hear more of this Mantra here. If you do a google search, you will find that indeed it is a very powerful Mantra that is used often in Eastern traditions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdeR_sQnI3A
I normally see the person as a chalk outline and upon closer inspection, can see different areas of concern highlighted by normally either a glowing orb or color. When I turned my focus to my Son, (he is really my Step son, but in my mind he is my Son), I saw him as is in his current situation. For some reason I see him etherically in his wheelchair. Today, I was shown that I shouldn't. I should view him standing, just like I view the others I attempt to aid, completely healthy again.
That whole process didn't take long, maybe 10 minutes max. I then just stared into the darkness and became aware of every bit of it. What I felt, what I saw, what I heard, etc.. All of a sudden a line showed up in my visual screen going straight across horizontal in front of me. I allowed this scene to progress and soon numbers were showing up as well. The number was 110 hrtz. I know that 110 hrtz is the Schuman resonance and that this visual had meaning. Another line soon showed up under the horizontal one, going the same way and soon a "dial" appeared. I could see that some form of a Radio was being created. The dial marker was currently on the 110 hrtz section. I then played with the dial, going up and down. I could see that "tuning" was the lesson here. I then repeatedly played with the dial mentally turning it up and down. I paid particular attention to what I was feeling at whatever the new setting was. What I could see, hear, how it felt different. I played with this for the entire session.
Afterwards I thought more about this and saw that there is ways I could heighten this experience. It would involve listening to different tones, from a MP3 or YouTube and getting used to what that frequency was. Then returning back to the "tuning" exercise and seeing if it still applied.
I could also see that the Schuman resonance was chosen here because it is the frequency of the Earth.
"Schumann resonances
The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere."
So, that was an interesting session. Definitely something worthy of exploring again. I do want to point out though that I did not intend to see this. I didn't consciously image it to appear. Like I said above, I had finished my healing modality, then I was just enjoying the darkness before my closed eyes. But, when it started to occur, I allow it all the freedom it needed and sat back and passively observed it all, without question. My questions came afterwards.
Now to today's session. Once again I started with lying back into the water, closing my eyes, then mentally doing my healing ritual. I then blanked my mind and enjoyed the peacefulness of the darkness before my eyes.
A thought then came to me about a conversation I had recently with a good friend here, where I mentioned the fact that I still enjoy a focus on a "Child's Spinning Top", akin to the one in the movie Inception. I loved that movie and began using the spinning top visual immediately after I saw it in the movie. So, I jump started the spinning top visual
The Spinning top soon began to morph and this time it was into a flame. I continued to passively observe this and I could swear I heard something either orally or telepathically say to use the Elements. I am no stranger to mental associations of the Elements. Fire being the flame, Water, normally a gently running brook or stream, Air, the sun or a golden sky and Earth being flowers, tall grass, etc.
So, I started mentally visualizing these Elements and as usual a visual soon appeared in my mental screen. Then something weird began happening. I would be seeing the flame of a firepit and all of a sudden a flower would be superimposed over the scene. I would be witnessing the flame, but with the flower as some kind of "overlay". I then changed the element and once again watched as a overlay appeared/ The coolest one was a flame with water merging with it. Just yesterday in a post I made here on another thread, I was speaking about "layers". Well, in this session I really got to see the real meaning of them. The scenes and overlays got even more vivid, which led to more amazement.
I have always stated that I love experimenting and exploring anew. I know many of you reading this right now feel that things like this are unnecessary. I find that experimenting and exploring anew makes keeps this practice always fresh. It also creates a real passion to push the enveloped and delve further.
Many people make this practice much harder then they need to. Have fun with it. Release all that stress you put on yourself and just go see what you can see. You will soon find that all this work and prep you have been working on will really pay off. My techniques here are personally "tweaks" I have made on other people's successful methods. I wanted to keep it as simple as could. I have always and still always hear people say they can't rid themselves of their "Monkey mind". If you can't beat it, join it. Use that Monkey mind to take you away from your physical focus. Techniques like this don't have to be lengthy. See it for what it worth. I use a number of different techniques to reach the same goal/destination and I am constantly being taught new ones to share with you as well.
I am going to add this reply with some new techniques to this Doorway thread. I really wanted to add it to the new "Astral Hotline" thread that EscapeVelocity created here, but it doesn't look like anyone is even using it or cares to. I know that once people do peruse this thread, so maybe they might find a answer that they are looking for.
First off I want to say a few things. The first being, I see new members come here, ask for help, get a reply, then totally ignore the reply and come back with the same problem that is hindering them again. Right now, I see it constantly here and that's a good reason that I haven't even logged on here for about a month now. That and the fact that the Astral Pulse Forum was offline for a week and half recently.
I see new members here constantly talking about this need to "get out of the body". They are looking at Astral Projection from a purely "physical mindset". A lot of this practice, just as life in general has to do with "common sense". So, common sense would tell me if I wish to have a "Etheric" experience also known as a true OBE, with all the bells and whistles, then I need to come at this from that point of view.
When I was new to projection, that's exactly what I did. I sat in a chair in my room and memorized everything around me. I memorized where the table in the room was, the couch was, the stairs the windows, the walls etc. I sat there with eyes completely open and I tried to be aware of everything around me. I then closed my eyes, did a quick progressive relaxation and began focusing on my breathing. I mentally pictured everything around me while I did this. After a few more breaths, I decided to use inhale for expanding and my exhale for retracting. At first it was just on the length of one left leg or arm, kind of like a "stretch Armstrong" thing. Soon I was expanding and retracting towards my walls, tables, couches, etc. I felt the expansion and retraction as well. After about 15 minutes of doing this, I heard a brief Astral Wind. Next, I felt mild vibrations. I mentally noted them, then moved on. Soon, I was seeing my entire room, first through the fog, but it got better quickly, through my closed eyelids. I then got up and moved around. Not my physical body, My Etheric one. I didn't question what was happening. Yes, it caught me off guard, but I was "all in" when I started down this path.
I find that there are people that don't quite understand what it is to "PASSIVELY OBSERVE" and ALLOW" things to occur. I see that here in many posts that I read on a constant basis. They are constantly getting hung up because something did occur. They had one or two "exit signs" and then lost their entire focus. Fear has a lot to do with that. But I also find that those people will always disagree with that. They say they weren't afraid of it at all. But I know better, because I have and do still experience many fear tests. Just last week, a very vivid, completely aware experience of mine got thwarted by a simple "Doorbell". Yes, that's right, you can laugh, but I became ultra aware and just as I did, I heard my house doorbell ring. I got up to see who was there. Then I kicked myself all the way back to bed. Obviously no one was there. I got duped again, lol. It happens.
Now that I got that off my chest, I want to get back to teaching here again. The last few weeks I have had some excellent experiences and have been taught a couple of different new techniques of focus to share with others here that wish to learn, during my own Phase soak sessions.
The first one, we will call "Is it OHM/OM or AUM?. I laid back in the water and did a quick progressive relaxation/disassociation technique, then I asked "What's next". I just stared into the darkness before my closed eyes and soon a thought came to mind. It was based on the question "is it OHM/OM or AUM"? I didn't start that thought, my mind was basically blank at that point, but now I entertained that question. At first I thought that people may answer according to their Spiritual beliefs. Different cultures have different beliefs and that that belief would likely taint their findings. So, I began my own little test. I focused on the word OHM and mentally repeated it over and over for awhile, then I changed it up the other spelling AUM. I did notice a difference, but I felt that I flawed the process. The first OHM, I had practiced for the first ten minutes or so, before moving on the next AUM for ten minutes or so. I found this flawed because after the first ten minutes, I am normally already focused away from the body, meaning that the next ten minutes would be twice a strong anyways.
I then aborted that OHM/AUM focus and enjoyed the peace and quite of the 3D zone I was now experiencing.
Day two, I got in the tub, did my progressive relation, closed my eyes, went to focus on the OHM test again, did one OHM, got a really strong sensation to readjust my eyes, ignored it and found that I was now being catapulted at a extremely high rate of speed through some kind of portal experience. I didn't see the portal at first. All I felt was the feeling of being moved upwards at a fantastical rate of speed. Blurred colors soon joined the tactile sensations. I was already "out". I had shifted that quickly. That has happened very quickly, but I get a symptom before it does. It seems like it has to do with my physical eye focus. When you first close your eyes, your physical eyes are focused on the immediately darkness before them. If you have been looking at a cell phone, computer screen or even a TV beforehand, there is a likelihood that you will maintain a bit of that image in your closed eyes screen as well. Normally the imprint is, just as I said, a imprint of the outline of whatever it was you were viewing or looking at. Many times that imprint will be a rectangle. This is why "Candle Staring" is such a great technique to have a "shift of consciousness" with. One the imprint disappears, you can either "will" it back or just enjoy the darkness until something new occurs. What I have found on a number of occasions with myself personally is that if I fight the urge to readjust my physical eyes, I will instantly shift. I will tell you one thing too, that urge is hard to fight. Sometimes it feels like my head is going to explode. But I take it as a test. The bodies test to see if I am still physically oriented to it. It can happen quite quickly too.
Day three, I got back to the OHM test. This time I used OHM on the first breathe, then immediately afterwards I did a breathe using the other AUM. I kept aware and mentally recorded the differences, if there was one. When I finally aborted the OHM test, I focusing on opening some Astral Doorways.
I know people here that are going to say, "what a stupid question". There isn't any difference, ya da yada yada. It doesn't matter if there is any difference at all. To attack this, would show me you don't understand the reason for the "exercise" in the first place. This whole exercise, was based on giving you a target to focus on while the shift in consciousness naturally occurred. The entire time you were focused on the "is it OHM or AUM", you were focused away from your physical body, long enough for the natural shift to occur. After your half hour/hour practice session, for some, you would already find yourself, if you wish to use the term, "out of the body". This next technique is based on the same concept.
We will call this one "Contemplating the Meaning of life" and Other things".
For this one, as usual I got into my bathtub of water, closed my eyes, did a quick progressive relaxation technique and then just got lost in though contemplating things. In this session, the "chosen" topic seemed to be Blind/Impaired vision people. I was curious if they could see actual forms in their Dreams. Just like we do with our eyes open. At my shows, I come across when many people with come kind of impairment. Some are blind, some deaf, but I always try to go the extra mile when I speak to them. I will often hold the item we are speaking about out to them, so they can touch it and I guess, get a "visual" picture of it. Now the questions started. But do they see it like us? Is it just a "imprint" that they see? Is their "Mind's Eye", blind/impaired as well? This whole question and answer period has now taken my so far away form my physical body focus, that I have already shifted. When I stop contemplating "life and other", I find that I am deep in the 3D zone and now can move on to whatever lies there next. Then saw a "Bridge" in front of me and I crossed it.
The following days, I used the same focus on losing myself in thought. Weird as it was, the "bridge" showed up again and again once I lost focus on the losing myself in thought portion of the session. You might add this to your technique as well. Bridge's carry a lot of "symbolism" and mental association. Crossing one can quickly lead to a very vivid lengthy NP experience.
So, when you are done "contemplating life", cross that bridge in front of you. If you can't see, just know it's there. You can walk across, fly across, drive across, float across, etc. I have even had times where I was seeing a Horse or something/someone crossing the bridge ahead of me. This felt more like a 3rd person viewing. But I still mentally followed them none the less. I won't say what I saw on the other side because I don't want to "front load" you. But there was always a adventure awaiting. One time it even led to a lengthy Retrieval.
Even though I am still curious to know the answer to those questions above, this wasn't about that topic. This was once again about somewhat "tricking" or should I say, ""letting your guard down", enough so that the shift in consciousness can naturally occur. Both techniques do just that. Don't take these as written in stone "Blueprints". Take the idea/technique and run with it. Modify it to your own likings.
Many Authors have spoke of the "physical tests" that the body gives while attempting mind awake/body asleep. They can come in the form of needing to swallow, needing to move because of discomfort, also known a the "roll over" prompt. "Some" of these prompts occur when the body is trying to figure whether you are still awake or not. If ever tried to fight sleep, you would know exactly what I mean. I always give in to the "swallow" prompt. It can bring on the sensation of choking and get you to hyperventilate. So, if my throat wants me to swallow, I will. But I now have learned the importance of fighting the "eye adjustment" prompt. I have also learned how to get through it. I will just focus on a cone/pyramid shaped white light above my head. For some reason, that almost instantly will change the visual aspect from my physical eyes to my "Mind's EYE". Once that happens, I find the shift has already occurred. This can happen almost instantly or at least very soon after you close your eyes to start "noticing". If this happens to you too, "see it through" and you will find that the shift has just occurred. It doesn't always have to take a lot of time for this to happen. Sometimes you are just ready right way. Always "take what it gives you".
I hope some of these tips will help you on your Journeys.
Safe Travels! :-)
Quote from: Lumaza on November 17, 2018, 04:43:42
I am going to add this reply with some new techniques to this Doorway thread. ...
I hope some of these tips will help you on your Journeys.
Safe Travels! :-)
Great post! Thanks for sharing.
Thank You Lumaza giving in the effort for this text wall. We both need to accept the fact that others simply don't have patience for this and they will rather seek out their way to practice any of these mind travel tools. I try to help people understand any of these consciousness stuffs on my private ways and found the same issue, as soon as others got their answers, they stop the whole thing. Or as soon as somebody asked a question, they don't even accept your answer. We tend to share what we have but it seems to me after years that we are all alone with our best tools in this and others are just passing by.
I was on Reddit too and I had the chance to reinforce my thoughts about others. I talked with 500% people under the posts or privately and actually a small percentage reached out for me directly whenever I could help. Almost all gave up after some weeks or a month even in my email list and I felt myself like I can't do anything for others. They consume my articles and that is far where they can go. I'm not all-knower and I already experienced many things, maybe I sound very straight in what I say or write but I tried with my site. My impression is above and that humanity is not ready for this what we share on the Pulse too. I tend to only just read or take some research nowadays here because the Pulse is just transformed into some kind of personal crying out thing and I try to stay away from it.
This site supposed to be something where we can learn this together, or from others what they have but it is mostly about sharing our own beliefs and I can't really follow that approach. I tried to do it privately and actually a bunch of people contacted me to learn from me, I still have some nice people in my email list but they simply turned back to their own life and I don't have so much power if nobody takes it seriously, so my way is my way. I'm suck in normal projection, I'm doing it via falling asleep and fighting myself up to Focus 3 (according to Frank's model) and experience that way. Many times personal daily life just ruins all and I need days to get back on track.
So I think our efforts to help others to learn what we have mostly from experiences are just not enough I guess for that amount of people and we can't change their mindset. Think about that, nobody should tell us also what to do, we can gather or get insights and "methods" or "truths" but we are also alone in this. Some people are natural from birth in AP or Phasing, some are in high awareness LD like me, others in etheric practice. And we just can't really tell others what to do. It bugs me also, I don't want to tell others what to do, not even in my articles but I tried to represent my knowledge in a religious belief free form where I could. What I saw over 15+ months that people are just reading articles and move on. Like they don't give damn about the whole thing. I can't count how many times I tried to make people realize what fear tests, nightmares, dreams, AP and others are, told them in details, on Reddit, Quora recently, they just don't pay attention and will accept the next belief which will resonate with them. I don't know how many times I solved peoples problems on Reddit. They didn't pay attention, didn't care, like a venting forum. People are just not ready, we should admit it. They are slowly learning even about normal mundane dream life. They can't even IMAGINE that the physical Universe and their body with reflection is not the end of the story. This is not an easy thing. I won't do my work forever and eventually I will close my site too later, I don't know when but seems to be pointless.
Well, but I gave hope many thankful people and knowledge and they are really glad to know me, I'm glad too. I hope one day these people will share these too to others. But we can't change millions and their thinking, I don't want to, just share what I have and I guess moving on with my private life.
Okay guys, this Topic is about Lumaza's Doorway Technique. Let's not ruin it.
Thanks
Hey Lumaza, the OHM/AUM test was really creative. I had never thought anything of the different spellings. I'll certainly back you up that bridges, paths, trails, roads, a cart, car or such usually takes me somewhere interesting as well. Also light bridges or lights in the sky. Those are usually a quick way to exit for sure.
And yes yes yes, distracting yourself from the task at hand is a great way to lose your attachment to the body. Kudos!
Thank You for all your replies here Baro-san, Philidan and Nameless! :-)
I apologize for the late reply, we had a Benefit for Nathan last weekend and the Family was the one that was organizing it. There was a lot of things to do there.
I have explored this "eye adjusting" thing a bit more lately. It seems to be more of a "defocusing" than it does a "refocusing". I have experienced it recently many times now right at the start of my Phase sessions. I will do my quick progressive relaxation, than another quick "healing modality" for people that I know that are currently in need of it. Then the impulse hits strongly to readjust my eyes. I work through it and the next thing I know, I have shifted.
While working through the ever so strong impulse, I instantly feel the sensation of "rising". There is a strong burst of pins and needles that accompanies it as well. But it is short lived because the next thing I know, the darkness in front of my closed eyes has changed. It has become vast. I know this area well. It's the 3d dark zone. I can get there now in about 10 minutes, probably faster if I dropped my "opening rituals".
I am going to continue to explore this new "phase" of my Phasing exercises, lol, so, I won't be working on new techniques for awhile, unless another "lesson" reveals itself to me first.
I also want to say Thank You to all of you who recently PMed me with your comments. I will get back to you soon.
Philidan, I have found that that is the "new normal" and we just have to get used to it. I have spoke to others that teach Meditation, Yoga, etc. and they have told me that they are having the same problems. If people don't see instant results, they lose interest and move onto the next thing. Then you have the people that see this practice as the "flavor of the day". It will interest until the next "flavor" comes around.
There are people though that are serious about this practice. Many of them like to lurk in the shadows here. That's okay though, they don't need to reply. If they want though, they are always welcome to use the PM option on this Forum. That way, they can keep their comments personal.
Nameless, there are many "vehicles" that you can use to cross "over"/exit. I experience "portals and vortexes" in many things. I finally gave in to Tornadoes and found that they are very useful to "switch the scene". We are always taught to fear them here in the physical and we should. So, that "carryover" was causing fear in the NP for me as well. Until that is, I experienced what lied beyond the Tornado. Then I saw that in the NP they are used as a form of a portal or vortex.
Lumaza, I'm finding it a bit difficult to follow precisely what you mean when you're talking about your eyes. What exactly does it mean to 'fight the urge to readjust'?
Do you mean that once you close your eyes, you must resist the urge to move them and stay focused on the darkness behind your eyes?
Sorry, I'm a bit lost! :-D
Quote from: octave on November 22, 2018, 01:40:46
Lumaza, I'm finding it a bit difficult to follow precisely what you mean when you're talking about your eyes. What exactly does it mean to 'fight the urge to readjust'?
Do you mean that once you close your eyes, you must resist the urge to move them and stay focused on the darkness behind your eyes?
Sorry, I'm a bit lost! :-D
It is really hard to explain.
I will be "noticing" the darkness before my eyes. Then I will have a overwhelming urge to readjust my eyes. It could be an urge to move them that I am fighting. All I know is the urge is very strong. I slowed the process down in the last few days to understand it more and it feels like I am turning my eye sight completely off. While fighting the urge, my hands and feet begin to tingle, like pins and needles and I get the sensation of rising. The next thing I know, I am in a vast empty darkness. The depth of that darkness has changed dramatically.
Yesterday I did a real fast couple of minute progressive relaxation exercise, then immediately the urge hit to readjust my vision, I did and immediately felt the shift.
In the past I have times when new things like this start to occur. I mentioned it to Tom Campbell years ago when I had a few of my instant shifts while in the shower. They were spontaneous though. I didn't attempt anything besides trying to get the soap out of my eyes then, lol.
Tom says that things like this come in "phases", pardon the pun there! :-D I am thoroughly enjoying this one now. :-) 8-)
Hm, maybe defocusing is the right word? I tend to practice it a lot. You defocus and watch a layer just backwards. We can call it our mind. But as soon there are some mental sceneries, we tend to ruin it with our eyes and we fall out. Frank actually had a battle with this lol. But I guess Lumaza you are a proficient god in this according to me haha.
Quote from: Lumaza on November 22, 2018, 15:56:02
Then I will have a overwhelming urge to readjust my eyes. It could be an urge to move them that I am fighting. All I know is the urge is very strong. I slowed the process down in the last few days to understand it more and it feels like I am turning my eye sight completely off. While fighting the urge, my hands and feet begin to tingle, like pins and needles and I get the sensation of rising. The next thing I know, I am in a vast empty darkness. The depth of that darkness has changed dramatically.
I feel reminded of the old Nick Newport Lucidology material. In this video he talks about the eye's micromovements to be avoided and also some eye exercises. Is it connected to your practice?
https://vimeo.com/5300101
Quote"Second Sleep Starter: Stop Eye Micromovements"
That wraps it up for sleep breathing. The second sleep starter is to stop eye micromovements.
During the day the eyes are searching for changes in motion. Because of this they make tiny micro movements all the time and at the end of they day they are still making these micro movements even though you may want to go to sleep.
If you close your eyes and try to keep them still you'll find that after about 30 seconds they are still twitching very slightly. It's not easy to totally relax the eyes. However if you can keep them at complete ease for several minutes the body will interpret that as a signal that the mind may have fallen asleep. In fact if you keep your eyes still your body will often fall asleep even if the rest of your muscles are fairly tense.
"Roll Eyes To Relax Them"
Before sleep, relax your eye muscles by rolling them around in wide circles in both directions several times and then letting them rest. After 3 or 4 nights of practicing this you'll be able to keep your eyes totally still and you'll fall asleep much faster.
Quote from: Phildan1 on November 22, 2018, 16:36:48
Hm, maybe defocusing is the right word? I tend to practice it a lot. You defocus and watch a layer just backwards. We can call it our mind. But as soon there are some mental sceneries, we tend to ruin it with our eyes and we fall out. Frank actually had a battle with this lol.
I guess "Defocusing" would be the right term then.
I had read about Frank's problem with this, in the past, in the "Frank's posts PDF" here on the Pulse. He says and I always restate that this is when it really important to just "passively observe". This is "much" easier said than done. With a lot of practice, you can entrain yourself to control your reactions to the "stimuli" that you are experiencing.
Quote from: Volgerle on November 22, 2018, 23:57:12
I feel reminded of the old Nick Newport Lucidology material. In this video he talks about the eye's micromovements to be avoided and also some eye exercises. Is it connected to your practice?
https://vimeo.com/5300101
What a welcome walk down "memory lane". :-) 8-)
Thank You for the share Volgerle. When I was new to this practice Nick's Lucidology material was one of the first things to really catch my eye.
I was coming at it from the approach of having a "OBE" in the real sense of the word. So Nick's info on the importance of the mind awake/body asleep and "triggers", was responsible for many of my early SP success. It's been quite the while since I saw that video, so it was a pleasure to once view it once again. I love rehashing old tech and teachings, especially ones that worked. 8-)
He may be dead on with what I am trying to explain. I am basically stopping all eye movement. The pins and needles in the hands and feet, the rising sensation, ,then the feeling of expanse immediately follows, but they are a result of my action or should I say "inaction", lol. Actually not necessarily follows. It's more like they get stronger the more I resist the urge to move my eyes in any direction. What follows is the realization that I am now experiencing a "shift in consciousness". The next task is to set an intent and explore what there is to know or see there.
I have been asked lately to further explain how I know I have actually "shifted". So, in the last 3 days I have been trying to slow down my Phasing to where I can identify and be aware of everything that occurs during it.
I just completed my daily Phase/soak session and once again I experienced the same thing. I got into the tub and did a quick progressive relaxation technique. That only lasted a few minutes. I then began focusing on just geometric, like I have been for the past 3 days. I then focused on different color schemes for those shapes. I had read about a similar technique before. I don't know where I read it, so I don't know who deserves the credit for it. I would visualize a red box. Then I would see a blue circle inside of it. I worked with this for a minutes and then it happened. A visual overlay, much more vivid then my imagined target appeared. It seemed to appear over top of the imagined vision, like there were two separate screens. I wanted to learn more about this, so I immediately stopped the session and opened my eyes, became aware of the physical again. Then I closed my eyes and went back to visualizing the colored geometric shapes again.
Somewhere along the line, a vivid overlay appeared again. Once again, I stopped what I was doing, opened my eyes and repeated the process again. Every time I did the vivid overlay or screen would appear. When I was getting near the end of my session and this repeating the initial steps of the Phasing process, I decided to focus completely on the new overlayed scenario. I stayed with that for awhile and then ended my session.
The 2 days previous to this, I experienced the same thing. I guess I never noticed the overlay thing. It is very subtle, so you really need to be aware. But, it seems to be a part of the process in some way shape or form. I found that that overlay seems to be a precursor of a successful shift. It seems to be the time when your focus on your physical eyes changes over to your "Mind's eye".
Hi Lumaza,
Thanks for all the interesting ideas lately.
Right now I'm just trying to get my routine sorted out, to eliminate any questions about what I should be doing during my routine so that all my focus can be about the experience instead. I still have some basic newbie things to sort out. I have a free Robert Monroe Wave session I listen to called "open exercise" where Monroe sets up the conversion box, breathing, and affirmations followed by a chunk of empty time to explore before returning to c1. It has a good base of things you suggest here. I sort of follow something similar to Frank's script. That explore time is where I will fit in your exercises. It's about 40 mins.
I've decided to do this before bed once things are quiet, but there are days when it just doesn't happen because Im too tired. I was doing a simple breathing mediation at this time of the night before bed, but I am thinking this practice is more beneficial. The only other time to attempt this would be an early wake up time when I finish a rem period of sleep (4-5am). Not sure if you have any comments, but I think at least practicing this routine over mediation before bed will be more beneficial until the routine is without any doubts or second guesses.
Regarding the eyes, there is a lot of switching happening between my physical eyes and trying to observe from the mind's eye/viewpoint. One thing that I remember Frank talking about was how he suggested the physical eyes should look up (maybe up as far as possible). Nobody else really mentions it though. If I am putting effort or attention towards making my eyes roll up, it seems like its putting additional focus on my physical eyes. So Im doing my routine and my viewpoint is struggling between my physical eyes and my minds eye, but then I start worrying about the direction of where my eyes should be looking. Lumaza, I couldn't find any real reference from you on direction of physical eyes, so my impression is to avoid thinking of the physical eyes all together, but I would like to clarify this. Does having the physical eyes directed up or towards the brow "third eye" area help? Is it warranted for a newbie?
Finally, you've mentioned your "quick progressive relaxation technique" but not much detail on what that entails? I know you've mentioned experiences where things like a pac man eats away your body, and you suggest things like breathing or unzipping of the body suite. However, what is a progressive relaxation technique?
Cheers.
I should add the "up and right" after Frank's thoughts : ) But I guess you shouldn't take it that seriously. Don't forget that he was just an individual who experimented with these on his own way in the footsteps of Monroe. I know his work in and out but we are not similar, who are practicing this. This is why maybe Lumaza's work will work for Lumaza plus a few people and Frank's work will work for people like him. Just guessing. We need to figure it out alone.
Some people swear that eyes should be left out from this practice and some can phase with staring or using them. I can't really decide who is right so the best thing is just find your own way. For me, staring with them or using them, nothing works. Only if I switch "backwards" behind them into the NP stream so to speak. And not always. But these are just my own experimentations, others are surely better at this than me.
Quote from: Lumaza on December 11, 2018, 22:32:14
I have been asked lately to further explain how I know I have actually "shifted".
I got into the tub
OMG..
I always felt crazy that my best woo woo work is whilst taking a bath..
Thank you so much for sharing..
With Love
Eelco
Quote from: Yodad on December 12, 2018, 17:41:36
Thanks for all the interesting ideas lately.
Your welcome my friend! :-)
QuoteRight now I'm just trying to get my routine sorted out, to eliminate any questions about what I should be doing during my routine so that all my focus can be about the experience instead. I still have some basic newbie things to sort out. I have a free Robert Monroe Wave session I listen to called "open exercise" where Monroe sets up the conversion box, breathing, and affirmations followed by a chunk of empty time to explore before returning to c1. It has a good base of things you suggest here. I sort of follow something similar to Frank's script. That explore time is where I will fit in your exercises. It's about 40 mins.
A few days ago I took a look back at the first Journal I had made based on my own experiences. The first technique I ever used, which ended up a success, was "Candle staring". I couldn't duplicate the same success using that the next time, so, I soon moved onto another method. This new method was Robert's Wave session. I could see that basically it was a "walkthrough"/guided meditative technique. Next I used Steve G. Jones "Moonwalking" technique. Then I moved onto Robert Bruce's new.
During that time I was listening to Tom Campbell's and William Buhlman's seminars and videos. So, basically I was bombarding myself with all kinds of info. So much so that I couldn't get anywhere. So, I began dissecting pros and cons from each of these techniques and devised my own.
Robert Monroe taught me the value of a "walkthrough". The candle staring taught me the importance of motion in a target. (I will talk more on this in a moment}. Steve Jones has a great Binaural Beat track that he created and I enjoyed using that. Robert Bruce's "NEW" taught me how to access my "etheric body". It taught me how to "defer" physical pain as well. Then there was Frank's teachings here, via his PDF. That taught me how to Phase. Tom Campbell taught me about fear and how to overcome it. He also taught me that the shift is just a thought away. We just need to get out of the way and allow it to occur.
Now that I had all the techniques, I needed to learn to hurdle the obstacles I was encountering.
1st obstacle: Eyes felt like they were opening just at the apex of a shift. I had vibrations, the Astral winds blowing, etheric motion and then my eyes would open and wreck it all. It could have been my "etheric/Astral" eyes opening. But whatever it was, I found it to be a major hinderance. I fixed it by using simple Blindfold. At first it was a cherry pit eye pad. But then I moved onto a real blindfold that purchased online.
Next obstacle was swallowing and breathing rhythm I would sit down to practice. I then closed my eyes to notice and then I had to swallow. That salivating problem was annoying. Next was the focus on breathing. How I fixed both of these was basically further practice and allowing myself to be immersed in my focus. This is also when I started to use progressive relaxation and disassociation techniques. Well, the disassociation technique was a result of my "pac man" experience, that you related to.
The next hurdle was chasing scenes. I would be noticing the darkness before my eyes, a visual would appear and I would get excited and chase it, using my physical eyes. This would cause all kinds of mental jumping around. This got fixed by a NP adventure I had with my deceased Brother-in law. He had died about 6 years previous, but at the time was not even slightly on my mind. In that episode, he taught me not only NP depth perception, but also the importance of PASSIVELY OBERVING with an air of curiosity.
One by one I had to handle all kinds of problems. The worst one though came through my Trigeminal Neuralgia. For a time, that blocked any success. I could no longer close my eyes and notice. My eye nerve would spam violently when I closed my eyes to focus. To beat that I needed to learn to bypass my physical eyes and go directly to my "Mind's eye". My Trigeminal Neuralgia also taught me Tibetan Dream Yoga.
There is one really important thing I wish to say though. The techniques used for a Etheric OBE and those of Phasing are completely different. I will explain why I say that. It's because Phasing is more of a mental process. Having a etheric OBE normally involves more of a physical focus. Very rarely have I ended up in a real time zone, meaning my current surroundings.
My Doorway technique and the Phasing techniques I have used are based on disassociation from a physical focus. I experience everything from a "point of view" focus. A Etheric OBE is based on "climbing out" of the body. That is still a physical focus in my books. You can't or shouldn't confuse the two of them.
QuoteI've decided to do this before bed once things are quiet, but there are days when it just doesn't happen because Im too tired. I was doing a simple breathing mediation at this time of the night before bed, but I am thinking this practice is more beneficial. The only other time to attempt this would be an early wake up time when I finish a rem period of sleep (4-5am). Not sure if you have any comments, but I think at least practicing this routine over mediation before bed will be more beneficial until the routine is without any doubts or second guessespretty
I find where there's a will you will always find a way. I like repetition. Routines are good!
QuoteRegarding the eyes, there is a lot of switching happening between my physical eyes and trying to observe from the mind's eye/viewpoint. One thing that I remember Frank talking about was how he suggested the physical eyes should look up (maybe up as far as possible). Nobody else really mentions it though. If I am putting effort or attention towards making my eyes roll up, it seems like its putting additional focus on my physical eyes. So Im doing my routine and my viewpoint is struggling between my physical eyes and my minds eye, but then I start worrying about the direction of where my eyes should be looking. Lumaza, I couldn't find any real reference from you on direction of physical eyes, so my impression is to avoid thinking of the physical eyes all together, but I would like to clarify this. Does having the physical eyes directed up or towards the brow "third eye" area help? Is it warranted for a newbie?
As I stated above. I learned a lot about the eyes. I experimented with everything. Up/down, side to side. In the end I found the best thing to do is to focus straight ahead into the darkness. But when you do, feel that darkness surround you. Become one with it. At this point any visual you produce is normally flat, like it's on some kind of blackboard in front of you. This is why I like the flame so much. A flame "flickers". That creates motion. An apple is an inadament object. At least as a visual, that is.
So, now you are staring into the darkness and nothing is happening, you are getting bored. Well, take your etheric hand and grab hold of the curtain in front of you and swing it open or shoot that basketball in your hands into the darkness in front of you. In other words, do something spontaneous. Don't look for the curtain or the ball in your hands, just know it's there. Be aware of the depth you experience now. If you wanted, you could go back to your visual of the apple or what ever your initial focus target was, to see how it has changed. It does not look like it's on a blackboard anymore. It now has dimension and depth to it.
QuoteFinally, you've mentioned your "quick progressive relaxation technique" but not much detail on what that entails? I know you've mentioned dxperiences where things like a pac man eats away your body, and you suggest things like breathing or unzipping of the body suite. However, what is a progressive relaxation technique?
Cheers.
My progressive relation technique begins with a focus on my big toe and gradually follows up until it is "above" my head. You target each part of the body one appendage or area at a time. To use my disassociation from the body focus, when you focus on a area, you mentally turn it off, until you end up above your head. It doesn't have to take a lot of time. I use it as part of my "ritual".
Here is what I have posted in the past showing my quick progressive relation/disassociative technique:
Here is a simple little step by step in that Disassociation process. I will also add some helpful tips to it that I have been finding lately in my own practice of it. All you want to do is focus briefly on the location until you actually feel it/become aware of it.
Left Leg-toes, heel, calf, knee, thigh, hip, the whole leg, then nothing
Right Leg-toes, heel calf, knee, thigh, hip, whole leg, nothing
Left Arm-fingers, hand, elbow, upper arm, all, nothing
Right Arm-fingers, hand, elbow, upper arm, all, nothing
Back-lower, middle upper, all, nothing
Front-stomach, solar plexus, chest, all, nothing
Shoulders Neck, nothing
Head-chin, mouth, eye sockets, 3rd eye/forehead, hair, nothing. You are done.
Quote from: catsquotl on December 12, 2018, 18:22:03
OMG..
I always felt crazy that my best woo woo work is whilst taking a bath..
Thank you so much for sharing..
With Love
Eelco
Yes, I found there is something "magickal" about water. The warmth of the water is perfect for just letting go and releasing your physical focus. Some day I want to try a "Float tank" too.
Quote from: Lumaza on December 12, 2018, 22:18:26
Yes, I found there is something "magickal" about water. The warmth of the water is perfect for just letting go and releasing your physical focus. Some day I want to try a "Float tank" too.
You should.
I was in such a tank once way before I knew anything about the astral.
Had the most vivid hypnocogic imigary i had, maybe even have, experienced ever.
In retrospect it could have definetly been a full immersive astral experience come to think of it..
With Love
Eelco
Quote from: catsquotl on December 13, 2018, 03:23:23
You should.
I was in such a tank once way before I knew anything about the astral.
Had the most vivid hypnocogic imigary i had, maybe even have, experienced ever.
In retrospect it could have definetly been a full immersive astral experience come to think of it..
With Love
Eelco
Thanks for the share! :-) It's on my "Bucket List"! :-D
Happy "belated" New Years to all! :-)
In the past few months I have been studying Hypnosis, in all it's forms and applications. A member here, who I greatly respect, named "Baro-san" will always reply to a person seeking help with Astral Projection, that all they need to do is to learn "Self Hypnosis" and they will have no problem achieving a completely aware shift in consciousness.
The one thing I really liked that I learned through my brief study of Hypnosis is that they use the word "try", when they expect failure and the word "do" when they expect success. I am going to say that again and I will put that in bold capitalized letters here, because I feel this is VERY IMPORTANT. A Hypnotist will use the word TRY, when they expect FAILURE and DO when they expect SUCCESS. An example of this comes when they are attempting to induce "Eye Catalepsy", which is a technique used commonly in Hypnosis, even "stage" Hypnotist use it. To do this, they will have a person first focus on a spot in the room, on their forehead, wherever. Then the subject will close their eyes and the Hypnotist will then have them relax their eyes, Once fully relaxed, the Hypnotist will then tell them something along the lines "that when I count down 3-1, you will "TRY" and open your eyes, but they will be locked shut. The more you "TRY" the harder it will be to open them. They will use the word "TRY" for every circumstance that they expect the subject to fail in during the entire Hypnotic process and session.
I emphasized that point on the word "try" because I always see people here at the Pulse and other places that continually post how they will try this or that. I also realize that omitting that word out of our speech and sentences, makes us sound like "Egotists". I have learned throughout my life that you either "do" or you "don't". To try something, means there is indeed a chance of failure. When I was younger I had sales training. This training was for "direct" sales, as in door to door sales. At the time, the people teaching you were basically "slave drivers". Door to door sales was and I guess still is very high pressure and the methods of the teachers were very ruthless as well. We made our projected "quotas" for the day in morning meeting. You either reached them at the end of the day or didn't. You never used the word "try". It was greatly frowned upon and would always end up with you getting chastised by a superior in the company.
A stage Hypnotist will have a number of little tests to deepen the hypnotic trance state. They will bring their subject in and out of the trance state will quick exercise, which in turn will deepen the trance state. They will get it so the subject is responding to their "suggestion" as quick as possible. They find that that in and out process nullifies the thinking mind and gets them right where they want to be, which is communicating with the sub conscious itself.
The Hypnotist will use "progressive relaxation" and an "emphasis" on special words. Some of the Hypnotist will even lower their voice when they say certain words because they have found that the subconscious seems to respond favorably to lower tones. The emphasized words are normally the "trigger" words. Everything they say to the subject is positive. Every word they use has meaning.
In my Doorway technique, I have also used the use of progressive relaxation. When I mentally state or affirm something that I wish to be heard at a deeper level, I will visualize that word or phrase in large letters. I use mental triggers in my simple focus on color and or geometric shapes. Many of the techniques used in "Hypnosis", self or other, are also used in Astral Projection itself. The more I learned about Hypnosis, the more I saw that this is what we have already been doing here. I was really shocked to see all the things that were shared in common with our practice in general. Mind you, a stage Hypnotist is performing for show, so they need fast results.
I just wanted to share that will others here. There were a number of great tips that I received in my study of Hypnosis. Possibly researching it will make you a better "conscious shifter" as well.
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For the next part I wanted to share with you some things I have been working on to deepen my own experiences. I have already shared throughout this entire Doorway thread, how to get to the "Void", the 3D dark zone. Soon there is going to be a fantastic thread written by one of our valued members here that explains exactly what this void is, that he accumulated from a number of acclaimed and some not so acclaimed "experiencers".
On to the deepening. I got into the water and began messing with some new things I learned from my study on Hypnosis. So, I layed back in my tub of hot water, closed my eyes, did my brief opening ritual, some progressive relaxation, a bit of visualization, then I stopped and opened my eyes. I then began over again. This time though, all I did was to close my eyes and notice the darkness around me. Notice how I said "around" instead of in front of me. At that point I was already experiencing depth in the darkness. Not fully where I wanted to be, so I opened my eyes, became aware of my real physical surroundings again, closed them and began noticing again. Once again, all the work and prep I had done earlier wasn't necessary now. I was already experiencing depth. This time it was even deeper then last time. So I stopped, opened my eyes and repeated the process again. Every time I did this, I noticed that no prep at all was needed. If anything, opening my eyes and focusing became the only difficulty. It was like I was kind of stuck in the zone.
At this point now visuals were aplenty. There was no need to visualize or jumpstart anything now. I saw what looked like a star in front of me. For some reason, instead of focusing on it, I focused "beyond" it. Every time a new visual would appear, I would try to look/focus "through"/beyond" it. This was bringing me to a level of depth that I have very rarely experienced. This is when I noticed/perceived, that I wasn't moving forward towards these scenes, like I do in my 6 pt directional focus. They/the objects or scene were moving towards me. The scene or objects would be very vivid at first. When I attempted to see "past them", the visual would become ghostly like a grey image and it would approach until it felt like it went through me. It was very bizarre and if anyone reading this wants to experience a new level of depth, you will find this technique to be a very unique one.
When I use my 6pt directional technique while in the 3d Void or when trying to reach the Void, I will feel the motion in whatever direction is focused on. Example: the focus on Forward, will normally have me feeling like I am moving forward, like on a Rollercoaster or some driving simulation. I will experience the accompanying visuals as well. For a Rollercoaster, I may see the tracks ahead and feel as the track swerve and turn. Focus on backwards, up, down, right, left, will have their corresponding visuals and motion feelings/responses as well.
With this focus though, There was no feeling of moving towards something. There was no feeling of motion at all, except for the motion of me being perfectly still, as everything came at me. This is a very unusual sensation and one that we are not naturally accustom to.
Well, that's it for this post for now. I really hate typing, lol! :-D
So much for your hate of typing, lol. Thank you for putting in the effort though. I had never noticed the 'try and do' with hypnotist but you are indeed right about that. I admire Baro-San very much for sticking to his guns. I've been rooting for his ideas to take hold as personally I find hypnotism very useful to ap.
Also looking forward to Volgerle's work.
Thanks for sticking with us.
Quote from: Lumaza on January 05, 2019, 05:02:30. When I was younger I had sales training. This training was for "direct" sales, as in door to door sales. At the time, the people teaching you were basically "slave drivers". Door to door sales was and I guess still is very high pressure and the methods of the teachers were very ruthless as well. We made our projected "quotas" for the day in morning meeting. You either reached them at the end of the day or didn't. You never used the word "try". It was greatly frowned upon and would always end up with you getting chastised by a superior in the company.
Reminds me of what I did for over 4 years but just in the office as a telephone sales agent instead of outside canvassing from door to door. Yet, it is practically the same, just on the phone, calling number after number (yes, it sucks!). Indeed then you are taught that you have to eliminate any softening, polite or subjunctive/conditional speech out of your language, such as 'could' 'would' 'might' 'maybe' 'perhaps' or similar. You always say 'this product helps you to...' or 'will help you...' but never 'maybe if you would try it then it could help you ...'. :lol:
Same with affirmations. Always do, never 'want' or 'intend to' or 'would like' or whatever. Also never 'ask' for it, just 'command' it or even better: state that you already have/are it. The best affirmation is thus always and still 'I am... now' (e.g. out-of-body-now). Or 'I do' instead of 'I'd like to do, I'd wish ...' or whatever.
Quote from: Lumaza on January 05, 2019, 05:02:30This is when I noticed/perceived, that I wasn't moving forward towards these scenes, like I do in my 6 pt directional focus. They/the objects or scene were moving towards me.
When I use my 6pt directional technique while in the 3d Void or when trying to reach the Void, I will feel the motion in whatever direction is focused on. Example: the focus on Forward, will normally have me feeling like I am moving forward, like on a Rollercoaster or some driving simulation. I will experience the accompanying visuals as well. For a Rollercoaster, I may see the tracks ahead and feel as the track swerve and turn. Focus on backwards, up, down, right, left, will have their corresponding visuals and motion feelings/responses as well.
With this focus though, There was no feeling of moving towards something. There was no feeling of motion at all, except for the motion of me being perfectly still, as everything came at me.
This is my typcial Void experience. That is why I also called the (Akashic) Void the Akashic
Screen sometimes. Yes, there is motion but you can always choose if you move or your surroundings come to you. It is a 3D and interactive screen for sure, but normally I do not move and the Void moves instead or the colours or pictures it shows me. It is maybe the focus I have which is normally not on myself or my body but on what is shown/presented to me. That is why the 'action' is on the other side and I am just putting out my intent or query and 'wait'.
One of the best examples is my card validation I did form the Void. First I saw the right card from afar. I demanded to see it from near to identify it. The card then 'floated' through the dark Void and moved towards me, not the other way round, and so I could read it. :-)
Quote from: Nameless on January 05, 2019, 15:02:42Also looking forward to Volgerle's work.
Soon, maybe tomorrow, Sunday is a good day, I'm now short of time again. Saturday night life waiting. :wink: :evil: :-D
Go Wild Volgerle! :evil: :-D
Quote from: Nameless on January 05, 2019, 15:02:42
So much for your hate of typing, lol. Thank you for putting in the effort though. I had never noticed the 'try and do' with hypnotist but you are indeed right about that. I admire Baro-San very much for sticking to his guns. I've been rooting for his ideas to take hold as personally I find hypnotism very useful to ap.
Your welcome Nameless! :-)
Like I said, I found there are already some things that are techniques and a actual Hypnotist's techniques have in common. Just looking at their basic induction programs is enough to show you that.
Quote from: Volgerle on January 05, 2019, 17:17:25
Reminds me of what I did for over 4 years but just in the office as a telephone sales agent instead of outside canvassing from door to door. Yet, it is practically the same, just on the phone, calling number after number (yes, it sucks!). Indeed then you are taught that you have to eliminate any softening, polite or subjunctive/conditional speech out of your language, such as 'could' 'would' 'might' 'maybe' 'perhaps' or similar. You always say 'this product helps you to...' or 'will help you...' but never 'maybe if you would try it then it could help you ...'. :lol:
Same with affirmations. Always do, never 'want' or 'intend to' or 'would like' or whatever. Also never 'ask' for it, just 'command' it or even better: state that you already have/are it.
We didn't have a script, per se. We were just highly motivated and told to go out and make a friend. Our boss actually won the formula and the rights to it in a "fight bet". He was a fight promoter himself, from Denmark. His "gift" was the gift of "motivation". But his ruthless, aggressive style came from what he learned and lived in the "fight game". He was very intelligent though and if you had good sales, you couldn't find a nicer guy. But if you missed your quotas he showed his Mr, Hyde side.
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The best affirmation is thus always and still 'I am... now' (e.g. out-of-body-now). Or 'I do' instead of 'I'd like to do, I'd wish ...' or whatever.
Yes you are correct. The use of a "past tense" mindset while creating affirmations is very powerful. To the subconscious it sounds more like a "command" then a request.
QuoteThis is my typcial Void experience. That is why I also called the (Akashic) Void the Akashic Screen sometimes. Yes, there is motion but you can always choose if you move or your surroundings come to you. It is a 3D and interactive screen for sure, but normally I do not move and the Void moves instead or the colours or pictures it shows me. It is maybe the focus I have which is normally not on myself or my body but on what is shown/presented to me. That is why the 'action' is on the other side and I am just putting out my intent or query and 'wait'.
One of the best examples is my card validation I did form the Void. First I saw the right card from afar. I demanded to see it from near to identify it. The card then 'floated' through the dark Void and moved towards me, not the other way round, and so I could read it. :-)
I am really looking forward to your post and new thread here on the Void. I enjoyed the way you integrated your screen into a set of blinds with a picture/scene on them, that gave you more or less of the picture, depending how much you opened or closed it.
In my thread here, I have stated often that a little "spontaneity" goes a long way there while attempting to access and also to deepen a shift in consciousness. Once in a while I will just mentally reach in front of me and open up the curtains. I don't need to look for the curtains. All I need to do is go through the mental action and know the curtain is already there.
In today's Phase/soak session I worked once again on depth and also deepening my experience.
I climbed into my tub of water, closed my eyes and worked through my Doorway steps. I started with a very brief progressive relaxation. Then moved to a bit of disassociation. Followed up with some quick 6 PT directional focus and now I was primed. I could sense a small amount of depth. It was a bit deeper then just a flat canvas. I then mentally shot the basketball in my hand into the darkness before my eyes. I didn't look for the basketball in my hands, I knew it was already there. So, thought = action was already in play.
My first attempt didn't' yield much in the visual sense. So, I repeated it a few more times. Now I could really sense depth. At first I could see the net that the ball was going into and soon I could see 5 nets and balls flying all over the place, lol. It was getting a bit much, so I aborted that focus and refocused on just the darkness itself.
What seems like a few minutes later, I saw a ball coming through the depth. It wasn't a basketball. It just looked like an ordinary round ball. It came right up to me and soon was in my hands. I felt it actually in my hands, which thought was strange at this part in my session. I could feel the weight of the ball. For some reason, on some level I got a prompt to roll it back into the darkness and just observe. This wasn't a verbal prompt, as in a voice that could be heard. Instead it was more of a telepathic voice giving a thought. So, I obliged.
I watched as the ball rolled out of my location and into the darkness. I then decided to follow it. I didn't question where it was going. All I did was observed it from a distance. Observing from a distance is akin to what I do during one of my "pace car" scenarios. (I speak quite a bit about my pace car visuals throughout my Doorway thread here). Basically what it is entails is focusing on a object in motion, normally kick started from my focus on the Forward direction in my 6 pt directional focus. Sometimes it could be a horse ahead of me or a Rollercoaster car, Rocket, all kinds of things can work as a pace car. I never purposely or should I say consciously create these. They just appear and when they do, I follow and observe them. At first I am normally in back of them, but then I get closer and closer until I am actually riding them, like the Horse or the Rollercoaster. That's when the shift is already a success and now I just enjoying what's next.
I don't want to "front load here", but it led to a really interesting adventure. It definitely created the depth I was looking for. But not only the depth, it also became the sole focus or should I say the new focus of that journey.
Exercises like this are easy to do. You just need to leave your analytical/thinking mindset behind for a minute and got just experience it all. You can start with any visual. A motion based one is usually the best if you wish to "follow" it into the NP. If or when the visual disappears/fades, reign it back in. If you don't like where it's going, abort and start over again. No harm, no foul. The only one "judging" you is "YOU".
My experience above kind of reminded me of something I experienced when I was first new to this practice. I seemed to have a few Guides that were very good on teaching me how to navigate my new NP surroundings. I was using the name "Lionheart" here on the Pulse at that time.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/anchored_in_the_astral-t37323.0.html
Allo Lumaza...:-D I truly enjoy reading your thread , one of the best, I hear more is coming :roll: :wink:
A bientot ...just passing by, got to go.
Quote from: Plume on January 10, 2019, 04:21:50
Allo Lumaza...:-D I truly enjoy reading your thread , one of the best, I hear more is coming :roll: :wink:
A bientot ...just passing by, got to go.
Thank you for your kind words Plume! :-) Sometimes I think I am just talking to myself here! :| :-o
I post all this here to teach others, but I am also looking for other people that share in these kind of experiencers and have a passion for experimenting anew. I figured a Forum based on Astral Projection would talk about just that "Astral Projection", but I was unfortunately sorely wrong. Still I come back here to teach, whomever wishes to learn.
Im reading your posts. :-D In fact I wanted to comment on your post the other day about hypnotism. I had never heard of how they utilize the word TRY as a failure. I've always enjoyed Star Wars and first thing I thought of while reading your post was a quote from Yoda, "Do or do not, there is no try" :-o How a movie character understand this and I didn't. :? lol Sadly, "trying" pretty much sums up 2018 for me. "Doing" will be the focus in 2019.
Quote from: Yodad on January 10, 2019, 16:55:04
Im reading your posts. :-D In fact I wanted to comment on your post the other day about hypnotism. I had never heard of how they utilize the word TRY as a failure. I've always enjoyed Star Wars and first thing I thought of while reading your post was a quote from Yoda, "Do or do not, there is no try" :-o How a movie character understand this and I didn't. :? lol Sadly, "trying" pretty much sums up 2018 for me. "Doing" will be the focus in 2019.
That Yoda character is one smart cookie! :-) 8-)
Here's to many successful "
do(s)" or better yet,
dids! :-) :-) :-)
Today's Phase soak session was another really bizarre, yet interesting one.
I got in my tub of water, closed my eyes, relaxed for a moment, just enjoying the warmth of the water (in Minnesota we try to soak up heat any way we can, lol. Winters are long here), then I did my Doorway steps and began just noticing the darkness before my eyes.
About 5 minutes later, (it's hard to judge time with your eyes closed), I began to sense movement forward. I wasn't consciously initiating this motion. It just began spontaneously, so, I went with the flow. At this point in my session, I have already dispatched of the need for physical form, I am just a point of consciousness. You can access that "form" though if it becomes necessary, as you will see later in my write up here.
The forward motion began to speed up, but once in a while, I passed some kind of brief light or marker. I kind of perceived it like what happens when driving down a dark highway at nighttime. There are mile markers and other things that you pass by that you aren't fully consciously aware of. After while, they feel like "blips".
The movement began to speed up, but the strange thing was, the "blips" (I will call them), began to slow down. Meaning the timing between intervals seemed to getting longer and longer. I stayed with this for a while, until I finally noticed that this I was at the "depth" that I wished to fulfill my intended goal.
My goal was to make initial contact with ..... Part of that contract was keeping some things quiet until instructed otherwise. Hence my not saying to whom I wished contact with.
So, I began mentally saying what I wished to say. I guess in some way, I was making some kind of "mental contract". But, I guess that wasn't enough because just then a piece of paper and pen revealed itself in front of me. That's when I put 2 + 2 together and realized that indeed some kind of "contract" was being formed. So, I began writing my part and when I was done, I signed it.
At this point I wondered how I was going to "send" message. My hands then began forming a paper airplane out of the contract and when it was made, picked it up and tossed it forward into the darkness. This was very strange, because my mindset was that of point of consciousness that didn't need "hands" or any form. When I was writing the contract, folding it into a airplane and sending it, I didn't feel any tactile sensation at all. It didn't even "feel" like me doing it. I was in "observer mode" at that point. I watched as the plane flew forward. I didn't follow it though. To do that would have likely jumpstarted a new adventure and I was content with this one already as it was. A small flash of light appeared in the center of the darkness, the plane entered it and both were gone.
I then returned my focus back to the just the darkness there, so I could work on some new Crystal Amplifier designs. I have some 1 inch - inch and half Quartz Crystal points that I want to incorporate into small Bonsai style tree designs. These will be the lowest priced pieces I have made yet. But I find that I really do need pieces of all different prices. I saw a new deign that I will make later tonight. If I can make what I saw, it should come out pretty good. Fingers crossed, lol! :-)
Now I just have to be aware in my LDs and my Phase sessions for an answer to my intent. I know it will come sooner or later. That's the way things seem to work there. You put your intent out and stay consciously aware for the answer or the result that follows.
Quote from: Lumaza on January 11, 2019, 03:00:18
That Yoda character is one smart cookie! :-) 8-)
Here's to many successful "do(s)" or better yet, dids! :-) :-) :-)
I was finally able to get some success with a set of lucid dreams the other night. Circumstances that aided my success seem a bit hilarious to me. I was feeling, shall we say, a bit full in the tummy from the weekend. Monday was a birthday for family member where I stuffed myself even more. So my stomach was working overtime during my normal bedtime and kept me from my typical deep sleep I must have. A couple hours into this uncomfortable light sleep I decide to do some
simple counting along with a mantra after every count of ten. I fell asleep at some point, but during a dream, this guy comes up and says "Maybe you're dreaming," and I did a nose pinch reality check and I was still breathing! Boom, lucid. I was sooooo fricken pumped in my dream I was practically yelling to the guy THANK YOU and gave him a huge high five! It didn't last long, but each time I woke up, I kept still and fell into another dream being lucid. I had maybe 4 total little lucids and they got stranger and stranger :-o wow! I was getting concerned I was forgetting earlier parts, so I stopped it all to write down what I could remember. :-)
To me its hilarious that it was being so full that night that it actually kept me from going into deep sleep like normal. LOL :? Not sure I want to replicate that scenario. Once I get lucid, I need to work on settling down and following my plan. I don't feel very conscious, so I still act out sort of like my dream self does (automatic). Onward with the
doing.
Lately have been using a fun little simple exercise on not only myself, but also on MJ's son, who had a tragic accident last year that has left him a Quadriplegic. We have been working for months now on waking up and rewiring his brain to nerve/muscle/tendon communication. He has been shocking his Doctors with how fast he has been recovering. He has gotten back limited movement in his fingers, which that in itself shows progress. He also has gotten back his upper body strength. Right now, some of his Doctors have been using him as a positive example for others in his condition.
So, back to the simple technique here. I use this on before we get into the physical therapy part of my visits. I am not a Doctor and know nothing about the muscles, nerves, etc. I just close my eyes and see what he needs at the time. Much of what we do is "energy work related".
Close your eyes and relax for a moment. Focus solely on the darkness before your closed eyes. Don't "strain" you eyes, just use a relaxed gaze, as you notice the darkness there. Do this for about 5 minutes.
Now, without looking up, I just want you to become aware of what is above you. You could also see it as looking at the top part of the dark screen you are looking at. Just become aware of it. Once again, totally relaxed. Now, become aware of what is below you. After that, become aware of what is to the left of you, then what is to the right. Don't move your eyes, Keep them in the same soft gaze that you have had on the darkness before your eyes for the entire exercise.
If an accompanying vision should appeal or you Have a tactile feeling, like raising, falling down, moving to the left or right, just be aware of it. When you feel like you are done, open your eyes and you will see that all the stress of the day has disappeared. You are now totally relaxed. You could also lock onto one of those visions or tactile feelings and see how far it will take you. It's up to you. Just keep it all simple. like they say "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID"! :-)
Quote from: Lumaza on April 27, 2019, 00:11:23
Just keep it all simple. like they say "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID"! :-)
This one seems appropriate for me!
I tried your simple method last evening. I sat on the sofa chair and closed my eyes (used a sleep mask as well to keep from distractions). Within a few minutes of staring ahead I was getting lots of imagery. My arms and legs were numb very quickly. I saw a fern above me on a shelf. I was moving thru a parkade when I was focusing on what was below. None of the imagery was very vivid in detail but it was certainly there. The refrigerator in the kitchen kicked in which startled me out of my focus. Once I was back in again my neighbour was home and could hear her slamming the door in the house next door. After that I had to stop as there were too many distractions. Something I need to work on by being able to ignore the outside distractions.
Sounds like you guys are making progress with MJ's son. That's great! :-)
Quote from: T-Man on April 27, 2019, 17:28:41
This one seems appropriate for me!
I tried your simple method last evening. I sat on the sofa chair and closed my eyes (used a sleep mask as well to keep from distractions). Within a few minutes of staring ahead I was getting lots of imagery. My arms and legs were numb very quickly. I saw a fern above me on a shelf. I was moving thru a parkade when I was focusing on what was below. None of the imagery was very vivid in detail but it was certainly there. The refrigerator in the kitchen kicked in which startled me out of my focus. Once I was back in again my neighbour was home and could hear her slamming the door in the house next door. After that I had to stop as there were too many distractions. Something I need to work on by being able to ignore the outside distractions.
Sounds like you guys are making progress with MJ's son. That's great! :-)
Awesome. Good job! :-) ...and yes, it is very simple to do and does not take a lot of time either. You can stop the focus whenever you feel you have had enough.
My suggestion to you would be to get a good pair of "earplugs". I use earplugs and a sleep mask when I sleep. During my Phase soak sessions, I use neither. A few times I have created distractions, such as a slow drip from a faucet, just to help me to work my way through them. After awhile, nothing really distracted me anymore and we live in the Country where there is a lot of hunting done. So, there can be some pretty loud distractions. If anything, I learned to enjoy them. Sometimes I just zone them out, other times I can still have a dual reality perspective. But I just become aware of them and then let them go.
I had learned a technique years ago that was great to not only to rid myself of distractions, but be able to just mentally acknowledge them, then stay the course. This technique had me thinking of my physical body as a piece of 'Swiss cheese", with all the holes in it. I just let any distracting sounds flow right through me. This technique is also used in meditation to rid oneself of "Monkey Mind". In that, you just allow the thoughts you have to permeate your body and go right though you.
This technique that I shared above about focus would also work to alleviate oneself of Monkey Mind. It still uses a very simple of my "Disassociation" technique that I have shared here in this thread in the past. It's just a water downed version of it. In the simple awareness technique above, you are just briefly becoming aware of directions, front, up, down, left and right. You could add backwards if you wish. I always find a focus on what is "behind" you, to jumpstart some very strange and interesting, not only scenarios, but also sensations to boot. You don't need to "engage" them and explore them further. But that option is always open to you! :wink:
This morning I awoke to use the bathroom. I then went back to bed. But before I fell asleep again, I did this very simple technique above once again.
Somewhere along the line I became aware of voices. It sounded like Nathan (MJ's son) and his grandson. I questioned that in my mind because Nathan, because of his wheelchair and condition, can not make it up to our home, without a good amount of assistance. He hasn't been here since his accident.
Little Noah then woke me up and said, "it's time to get up". I acknowledged his presence, then went back to sleep. But when I did, I began doing summersaults and all kinds of weird tumbles above my body. I felt myself rising and that's when the summersaults and acrobatics ensued.
Once again, I heard Nate and Noah talking. This time I just ignored it and then once again the tumbling ensued. I don't have much more conscious recall beyond that. I clicked out and woke up for real at 3:45 in the afternoon.
I came out of the bedroom and saw MJ sitting in her chair. I then asked her if Nate and Noah had come over earlier. As I expected, the answer was no.
Anyways, it was good to have a long sleep in. I haven't had one of those for a while, since I go work on Nate almost every week day. The only time I get now for sleep ins is on the weekends. That is the time I get to work on my Crystal Amplifier designs till the wee hours of morning now.
Edit
While today perusing through another Forum, called the "Roundtable Forum", I came across this video in a thread they had there.
The gentleman in it basically uses a method I have been using for years now, although he describes the reasons in a different way then I do for why a directional focus works so well. I never knew that there was actual "educated" alliances with technique. I just caught onto it myself years ago by visualizing motion, like simulating driving a car, etc. This came to me because I noticed that many times when I was just becoming aware in the NP, it was normally during some motion related event, like flying above a landscape, driving a car and one of the experience for some reason is "riding a Horse", which I don't do in real life here. As a child, I fell from a Horse. Haven't been back on one since that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kebLRelRBak
Lumaza,
Thanks for adding the link to the video you came across. It was helpful with another explanation of how the technique works. I will keep working on this as it is very simple to do. :-)
Quote from: T-Man on April 29, 2019, 02:28:36
Lumaza,
Thanks for adding the link to the video you came across. It was helpful with another explanation of how the technique works. I will keep working on this as it is very simple to do. :-)
Your Welcome! :-)
Today while using this simple practice in my own Phase session I found that when you gently gaze into the darkness before your eyes, pick a certain point to focus on and hold your focus there, even when you are becoming aware of the other directions. You will see that this will really intensify the experience.
Just pick a invisible dot in the middle of your "viewing screen". Hold your attention there. About 5 or 10 minutes into this gently gaze, slowly start to become aware of each directional point. Over/Under/Up/Down and if you want to really have some fun, Forward/Backwards. There is no rush. This is no race. Just be "AWARE". That's it. Don't question, don't actively "create" the narrative, Just simply be "AWARE" of it.
There is plenty of time to go deeper with this later.
Good Luck
Feel free to share and post your results here. I'm sure other Members and "Seekers" here would love to read them.
I have been using this simple technique for a few evenings now. The other night I was in my usual recliner chair with foot rest extended outwards. I had my sleep mask on and my headphones on just to help keep unwanted distractions from breaking my focus. I was doing well when out of the blue I felt the motion very quickly as I was using my feet to close the recliner chair...then I realized this was all in the NP. I was back in the physical now and my body was still in the reclined and relaxed position with feet outstretched. It sure didn't take long to slip my consciousness from physical to NP.
Other evenings I have tried and didn't seem able to get anywhere. Will keep working at it.
Quote from: T-Man on May 04, 2019, 17:41:37
I have been using this simple technique for a few evenings now. The other night I was in my usual recliner chair with foot rest extended outwards. I had my sleep mask on and my headphones on just to help keep unwanted distractions from breaking my focus. I was doing well when out of the blue I felt the motion very quickly as I was using my feet to close the recliner chair...then I realized this was all in the NP. I was back in the physical now and my body was still in the reclined and relaxed position with feet outstretched. It sure didn't take long to slip my consciousness from physical to NP.
Other evenings I have tried and didn't seem able to get anywhere. Will keep working at it.
I have times when I just lie back into the water, close my eyes, during my Phase session and find I am instantly "there". Then there are other times when it takes some time before things begin occurring. I haven't been able to pin point any method to that madness, lol.
That's why I just "go with the flow" now. Take what I get and work with it. You can have so many strange sensations that you don't know whether you are experiencing them physically or etherically. I always question them after the fact though. While in a Phase session I always strive to "stay the course".
Last night I watched a fantastic video on youtube called "Forbidden Knowledge Discoveries That Reveal the True Purpose of Ancient Temples". The entire video was 1:34:24 minutes long. I know that in this day and age, with the "Now generation", that sitting down to watch a lengthy video like that doesn't compute. Take it as watching a Movie then.
The video could have been called "Ancient Astral Projection" because that's exactly what was occurring in it. There are so many tips hidden in that video. So many things that we have talked about on the Astral Pulse Forum in one way or the other. Freddy Silva did a masterful job with his delivery of this Ancient knowledge. He explained many of the rituals found in the Ancient (Egyptian) Mystery School teachings.
He showed how many of these Ancient temples and sites were based on manipulation of frequency, as seen in the Hypogeums in Malta and other Ancient temples of the World. He showed how many of the Ancients were masters themselves when it came to Archaeoaccoustics and Archaeoastronomy.
At the 35 minute mark he showed how the some of these Temple designs were created as "fear tests" and as challenges in "humility and ego". Things that we in this practice must learn to control to further our own practice. Archeologists also found traces of "Narcotic concoctions" that would be used for what they was termed "Living resurrection rituals", aka OBEs/NDEs.
At around the 52 minute mark he spoke of "Metaphysical Defleshing", which we here know to be a "dissassociative focus" from our physical bodies.
Todays' naysayers say that the Ancient Temples were "burial sites" and yet, no bodies were found in them, although a treasure trove of Gold and others riches were. His question being "How many Grave robbers do you know that would take the body but leave the Gold and treasure behind untouched?" Good question. I would love to hear the answers to that one, lol!
He found evidence that the Ancients were very proficient in the Art of NDEs and OBEs, everywhere, in many different cultures. Amazingly those cultures being separated by thousands of miles and even oceans.
They didn't have the same "priorities" we have today. That's why it's so hard for modern many to understand all of this. Our World today is built on constant distractions. I speak to other Authors of Meditation/OBEs occasionally and listen to others in Radio interviews that are saying how hard it is to teach these days, simply because people expects that results "yesterday". They don't do the work because it takes too long.
Here's a link to this fantastic video. See for yourself, there are metaphors found for Ancient Astral Projection everywhere in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yWYSVEtBuo
For a few weeks now, I have been working on techniques quicken my process of attaining a good deep NP focus. I have dropped all my other steps and focused on just this one now.
I get into the water (my bathtub), to do my Phase session, I close my eyes and immediately focus on the darkness before them. I then become aware of the black blank screen before them. I begin by focusing on the center of the dark screen I see. I then become aware of directional pointers about 10 feet in front of me. I see these pointers as facing outwards from the directions of up/down/left and right or what you could call North/South/East and West. These pointers are at the outer limits of peripheral vision, pointing outwards.
At first, my eyes are fighting to follow my focus, but that soon changes. After a few minutes of strengthening these visuals, I will myself forward towards them, until I am in the center of the directional markers/pointers. They are still are still there though, it's just that now I have to focus totally on that particular direction to sense them, which in turn leads to a "etheric/tactile sensation. This is really hard to explain. But I am sure you know what I mean. At least those that have experienced the 3D dark zone, aka the Void.
During this process, my physical eyes will want to readjust and follow the chosen directions. I fight the urge and keep my focus on the center of the screen. After a few minutes I am well into the "depth" of the darkness and ready to create a intent for the session.
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I see that there are some new members here now that wish to learn to go deeper with this practice. Yesterday and today I took a walk down my own memory lane and kind of rehashed some of the things I did in the past when I was newer to this practice myself. One of them that for some reason I dropped was to focus on a sign in front of me that said "Training Grounds or Training Zone". At first it was very hard to visual, but after awhile just focusing on it and "knowing" it was there, was enough for it to finally manifest before me.
In many of my earlier experiences I constantly found myself in some kind of teaching or school setting. I was taught "depth perception". I was taught how to "passively observe", a kinds of lessons. Each of these lessons was beneficial and at times crucial to furthering my development in with this practice. Once I even found myself in a school room with other "beings". There was a blackboard in front of us and behind that blackboard was the Astral Plane. I had to pass what ever test I was given to be able to bypass the blackboard, leading to the Astral Worlds that lied beyond it. I wrote about this here years ago using my former name here "Lionheart". That account is now closed, which means my former profile can't be found. (If your interested though you could use the Forum search engine on the words "Astral School" to see what you can find)
Edit: I just found one of them in a search myself.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/astral_school-t34301.0.html
So just focusing on simple little wooden sign, whatever kind of sign you wish, a "Doorway", :wink:, with the words "Training Grounds or Zone", can open up to some very beneficial experiences. You have actually set "intent" as well. Make it as real as you can. See each letter clearly. See the material that it is written on. Once you have that visual vivid, you can become slowly pan your focus out and see what kind of scene there is to see.
Don't get discouraged if you can't see anything. Just know that sign is there and it will reveal itself. This is a great focus target. The deeper you focus on this, the further away your focus on your physical body will be.
This not only works good with new members and those that are new to Astral Travel. It also works for people that are experienced. A Training Zone or Training Ground is just what it says, but it doesn't necessarily say that you are on the "ground floor". Each level of development could contain it's own Training Ground. Sometimes doing simple focuses like this are enough to "refuel" or jumpstart your teaching again. The lack of "experienced Members" here at the Astral Pulse shows me that something is waning. Either it's a lack of passion or some kind of block that got in the way. Then again, it could be a "been there done that" thing and they have lost their interest all together. Don't ever get locked into the thinking that now you know all there is that is needed to know here and for that, you don't practice anymore. I believe and have been shown that once you think you 'know" it all and have the answers, the "teachings" themselves stop then and there.
Question regarding the technique: is it OK if I ask these questions mentally during the process? Like a mental dialogue? Tried it a few days ago, unfortunately I was awaken by someone but it went quite deep and I was actively asking about the doorway; as if the questions helped to get deeper. What do you think? Thanks in advance
I am answering for Lumaza because his computer is currently offline.
You can ask questions mentally during these sessions. It is an individual thing. For some people it works very well and they get immediate responses or results; for others, they may find that it disrupts their concentration a little too much. And it changes over time, depending on your development.
Don't be afraid to experiment.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 14, 2019, 05:01:42
I am answering for Lumaza because his computer is currently offline.
You can ask questions mentally during these sessions. It is an individual thing. For some people it works very well and they get immediate responses or results; for others, they may find that it disrupts their concentration a little too much. And it changes over time, depending on your development.
Don't be afraid to experiment.
Hi,
Thanks very much!I was curious if it's a total no go or could work, this is good news :)
I'll get back in case of any result. Also thank you for your answer regarding the music question in the other thread;
I guess these are grey areas that might work with some people. Cheers :)
I first started my Doorway thread years ago with a simple focus on Geometric shapes and colors. I used these because each seemed to create a accompanying visual, a "mental association" of sorts. I found that that actually tricked my mind into creating visuals. My intent began with a simple shape or color, but the object seemed to morph into something completely different and as it did, I passively observed it with a air of curiosity. This indeed consumed my entire focus, thus releasing my focus completely on my physical body.
This then evolved into more of a disassociation based practice, using means such as "unzipping the physical suit", energy work that focused on losing physical control and even a 6pt directional based focus. I used counting, Mantra, I basically explored all kinds of way to create a good deep NP focus. My real goal though was to assemble a strong team of Experiencers to do some collective explorations. To target some Doorways or Portals to see what we would find behind them. I realized that we would likely perceive things in a different fashion. But, at least we could see if it was possible to kind of find synchronicity in what we were viewing and experiencing. Unfortunately that idea crashed and burned. It's really hard for people to self motivate anymore. There are too may distraction in this day and time and those distractions are consuming everyone's focus. I should say, we are "allowing" those distractions to take our focus away. We do have a choice! :-o:|
In the last few weeks, I have hit across something completely different though. A new evolution of the practice that most of the times, puts me in a good deep NP in only a few minutes time. This new evolution occurred because of current talk we have been having here on the Pulse about what to do and not to do with our physical eyes while noticing the darkness behind them. I began doing all kinds of experiments with my eyes. Looking down, looking up, softening my gaze, strengthening my gaze and then it happened. I began noticing that every time I simply gazed into the darkness, that I would get s prompt to readjust my vision. This prompt would be so powerful at times that it felt like my head was going to explode. The more I fought the urge to readjust my vision, the stronger the sensation got to be. Then all of a sudden everything release and a wave of energy or something, it's hard to explain, passed over me, through me. When this wave had passed, it normally only lasted a few seconds, I would find that the darkness had a new depth to it. I was in the void.
I have used this technique every day now and I receive the same results. Every time it puts me deep in a good NP focus. I can then set my intent for that session.
I begin my Phase soak session by lying back in my bath water in the tub. I then do a quick healing Mantra I have used for a good year now. It is a simple one that goes like this. RA MA DA SA SA SAY SOH HUNG. This Mantra is ancient and was created to be used as Healing technique. I visualize what each syllable in the Mantra represents. For RA, I visualize the Sun, for MA a running water source, like a river of waterfall, DA, I see the land, represented normally by trees or flowers, SA is the Air, so with that one I visualize flight. I hold onto the flight visual all the way to the HUNG. The HUNG I visualize and actually feel as a explosion of light emanating from my core, kind of like fireworks. I do the Mantra and the visuals 3 times, then I allow my focus to drift into the darkness before my eyes. Very soon I will get that urge to readjust my vision. I will then fight it, the wave hits and I am "there".
I was recently describing this via PM to a good friend and fellow member here name Baro-san, that most of you here know of. He then sent me this reply. I thought it was spot on. The sensation I get when I am attempting to fight the urge seems just like a "overload". That's what makes it so intense and why I compare it to the sensation of my head exploding. I have felt this "Overload" sensation in the past. It normally occurs during the "Downloads" I have experienced. Some other members here have spoke of this "Download" phenomenon as well.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/the_download_aka_the_forbidden_dream-t44872.0.html
Here is what Baro-san had to say. He also gave me a fantastic example and explanation of this "Overload" phenomenon to go with his reply. As usual, I was every so grateful for his response. I really enjoy how he backs up everything he says here on the Pulse with some sort of example based on said topic. :-) 8-)
"Hi Lumaza,
The method you've discovered reminded me of the "Overload" technique used for trance induction.
I'm quoting bellow a description from John Grinder & Richard Bandler 's "Trance-Formations - Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Structure of Hypnosis" (1981)
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Overload
About twenty-five years ago, George Miller summarized a huge
amount of both human and animal perceptual research in his classic
paper 'The Magic Number 7 ± 2." Human beings have the capacity to
consciously attend to about seven "chunks" of information at one time,
Beyond that number, a person becomes overloaded and starts to make
mistakes. If I tell you a sequence of seven numbers, you can probably
hold that in consciousness without error. If I give you a sequence of
nine numbers, you will find it much more difficult to recall them
correctly, and will start to make mistakes. Each number is a "chunk" of
information. However, if you—or I —divide the nine digits into three
groups of three, you will be able to recall the nine numbers much more
easily. Now there are only three chunks of three digits each. By group-
ing information in larger chunks, it becomes possible to deal with more
information with the same 7 ± 2 chunks of conscious attention. You
can consciously attend to seven leaves, seven twigs, seven branches,
seven trees, or seven forests. How much you can attend to depends
upon the size of the chunk of information that you are dealing with.
Whatever chunk size you choose, when you are paying conscious
attention to 7 ± 2 chunks of information, anything else will not be
processed consciously. Anything beyond 7±2 chunks of information
becomes overload and will be processed unconsciously.
An example of this happened in another workshop. I asked for
someone who had a way of remembering names that worked exqui-
sitely. A woman named Carla had one, so 1 had her come up to the
front. Ann Teachworth was sitting in the audience, and I said to Carla
"Do you happen to know this woman over here?" and I pointed to
Ann. Carla said "No," When Carla was introduced to someone her
pupils dilated and she made an internal image of the person's name on
her forehead, Then every time she saw her again, her pupils would
dilate slightly and she would see the name written there on her fore-
head. That was the way she always knew someone's name, and it
worked very well. Since I know what she does, I know where in the
sequence of Carla's experience she will be unable to consciously
represent any additional input: when her attention is oriented inward
and all of her 7± 2 chunks of attention are occupied with visualizing
the person's name on her forehead.
I said to Carla "Look at the woman over there. Her name is
Ann . . ."I paused, saw her pupils dilate, and then said "Teachworth."
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She heard "Ann" and visually wrote it on Ann's forehead. Then I asked
her "What's that woman's name?" Her pupils dilated again and she said
"Ann." I said "Do you know what her last name is?" She said "No, you
didn't tell me." When your timing and your sensory experience are
refined enough that you know when a person's attention is inwardly
oriented and when it's not, you can introduce anything you want.
When someone is oriented inward, she will respond appropriately to
your suggestions because you bypass her conscious mind. There's no
way for her to filter or defend against such suggestions.
At that point I said "Her name is Ann Teachworth" and Carla said
"Oh! Now I remember." That was an elegant demonstration that
although she didn't have it available in conscious awareness because it
didn't go through her name-remembering process, it was there. She
recognized Ann's last name when she heard it, so it had been processed
and remembered unconsciously.
Whenever a person's conscious processing is overloaded, you can
pass information directly to the unconscious, and the person will
respond to that information. The easiest way to overload
someone's
attention is by having her pay attention to a complex internal
experience.
I used an overload technique the second time I ever officially
induced a trance. I'll demonstrate. Would you come up for a second,
Bill, and stand here?
"OK, would you close your eyes? Now what I would like you to do is
to softly, out loud, begin to count backwards from two hundred by
threes. And as you do that, I'm going to put my hands on your
shoulders and turn you around in circles. If at any point you discover it
is more comfortable for you to simply drop into a nice deep trance, do
so with the full realization that you are in good hands."
By doing this, I create an overload by occupying all of his representa-
tional systems. He's using visualization as a way of helping himself
count backwards. Auditorily he's saying the numbers to himself. I
disorient him kinesthetically by turning him in circles. He's now over-
loading himself with things to attend to, so I don't have to.
I could just as well have said "Now turn slowly in a circle." However,
if I turn him with my hands on his shoulders, I get a lot of tactile
feedback about when he's changing states and what kind of state he's
going into. I also give him something else to attend to kinesthetically:
the feeling of my hands on his shoulders.
To make sure that overload works, you make sure that all systems
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are engaged. If he's busy visualizing and counting off the numbers
while he's being disoriented kinesthetically, I can offer suggestions
which will go right past his consciousness into the unconscious. If I say
something that distracts him from the task, I will immediately know it,
because he's counting out loud. There's a built-in feedback mechanism
in this traditional method. If he stops counting, I know he's either
dropped into a deep trance, or he's shaken off the disorientation and is
consciously listening to the suggestions I am attempting to pass to the
unconscious. Then I'll either insist that he continue to count, or I'll
notice that he is in deep trance, stop fooling around, and go to work.
This is a really traditional trance induction, by the way. I read this
particular method in a book years ago, and having had no experience
of it, just followed the instructions as if I knew what I was doing. It was
only some years later that I figured out what the principle was, so that I
could generalize from that specific method to overloading someone in
a variety of ways. The way we teach in these workshops is designed to
do exactly the same thing, because we arc interested in passing most of
the messages to you at the unconscious level.
You can use any complicated task to occupy a person and distract
his consciousness while you disorient him. Then you offer a very direct,
immediate, and easy-to-follow instruction like "If at any point it is
easier for you to simply drop into a deep trance, then do so and enjoy it
with the full realization you are secure in your present position. . . ."
Here's another variation. I take Jack's hand here, and I want to
overload him. So I say "All you have to do is sit here comfortably. I'm
going to touch different fingers and your thumb, and I'm going to
name the one I'm touching. Your job is to simply decide whether I'm
doing this correctly or incorrectly."
Then I begin touching and labeling. "Forefinger, middle finger, ring
finger, little finger, thumb. Middle finger, forefinger, ring finger,
thumb." (He touches the little finger.)
Each time I "make a "mistake" he will do what he just did: his pupils
dilated and there was a hesitation in his breathing. He had to take some
time to compute. It took him longer to decide that I had made a
"mistake" than it took him to decide earlier that I was correct.
If I were to continue, I would gradually become more and more
"incorrect." Soon he would be overwhelmed by the complexity, and in
defense, he would go into a deep trance. At that point I would say "As I
touch your ring finger this time"—and I would touch the wrong
finger—"you are more relaxed." I would continue to overload, and go
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on to introduce additional suggestions about the specific kinds of overt
responses I want—those that indicate he is going into a trance.
I am giving the person input in all three channels simultaneously and
demanding that he make a judgement about whether the auditory
input matches the visual and kinesthetic input. He will soon give up,
and essentially say "OK, tell me what you want me to do."
Instead of overloading all representational systems, you can give the
person such a complex task in one or two systems that it occupies all of
his 7 ± 2 chunks of conscious attention. You can ask the person to
count backwards from a thousand by one-thirds, visualizing each one
of the fractions with a different color for the top of the fraction, the
bar, and the bottom of the fraction. Each successive fraction has to
have a new color for the bar and for each number. Then you can add
suggestions like "With each number you will go deeper." These are all
ways of manipulating a person in such a way that you are overloading
his input channels and thus his ability to make sense out of what you
are doing."
Am I right in thinking what this is? A breakthrough of possibly great significance?
A recognition of the essential technique used by shamans, teachers and gurus throughout the ages with their students?And with Lumaza's refinement of his personal techniques, an understanding of the how and why of finding a personal entrypoint to the NP, by arriving at the 3 Dimensional Void through use of an 'overload' technique which incorporates this 'rule of 7+/- 2'?
Awesome work guys!
This is a significant insight brought to us by Lumaza and Baro-San!
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on October 08, 2019, 01:57:46
Am I right in thinking what this is? A breakthrough of possibly great significance?
A recognition of the essential technique used by shamans, teachers and gurus throughout the ages with their students?And with Lumaza's refinement of his personal techniques, an understanding of the how and why of finding a personal entrypoint to the NP, by arriving at the 3 Dimensional Void through use of an 'overload' technique which incorporates this 'rule of 7+/- 2'?
Awesome work guys!
This is a significant insight brought to us by Lumaza and Baro-San!
Thanks EV! :-) I would say only time will tell now. We will see if other people adopt or at least experiment with this methodology. If someone does, I would love to hear their results, both good or bad.
I always say that we are "remembering" something that we knew many years ago. For some reason the ancient Egyptian civilization has some kind of resemblance for me. Lately I have been studying the "Toltec" as well, as in the "Toltec Secret", which is another form of Dream Yoga. I am fascinated by all of that info. I want to expand my mind and evolve in this practice as much as I can. A constant bombardment of info due to reading, listening to youtube videos and hearing Radio talk shows conversing on the subject seems to help with my own personal evolution here. I love donning my "Explorer's Cap" and expanding my reality! :-)
You can utilize the Void for whatever it is that you need in your live, whether that be personal growth or other! I find that that is where "creativity" itself is born and expands! Many Poets, Song Writers, Inventors and Authors period, would agree with that statement too 8-)
For the last week now, I have been experimenting with using visual imagery, such as my Mantra and going completely without it to see if I can totally drop the visualization part and just move into the readjustment of my eyes part of my new technique.
I have found that I must visualize something, even as simple as a Geometric shape to receive the readjustment prompt itself. That makes perfect sense though.
I tried just counting numbers in my head, using the same Mantra I used above, but this time without visualization and just simply focusing on the darkness ahead of my closed eyes. Neither of those gave me the prompt tp readjust my vision. At least they didn't as fast as visualizing did.
I then went back to using visualization with my Mantra and when I had finished a minute or so of that, once again the prompt was strong. That led to the overwhelming overload sensation that is so powerful it's really hard to maintain. This sensation is familiar to me. It seems to be the same sensation I feel at the apex of Sleep Paralysis, just before a "exit" occurs. It's a feeling like you are going to lose your mind, literally. It's really overpowering, but thankfully brief. Then I get the wave of energy, which feels like some kind of rush of adrenaline, some kind of body rush that flows through me, but once again, that is very brief as well.
Once this all passes, I see that the darkness before my eyes looks quite a bit different then it did when I began the session and that now I am experiencing more of a Etheric visual, a RTZ (Real Time Zone). The visuals first open up like I am viewing them through a tube, tunnel, or some long hallway, as in a distantance. The longer I hold my focus there, the more vivid and surround the scenario gets to be. This I have experienced in the past as well and I wrote about that, using my former name on this forum Lionheart. This tunnel vision viewing occurs only when I "don't" create any intended destination and just simply observe. One last thing too is I am not seeing this with my "physical eyes". I know that because I don't experience any movement there. This is all occurring using the "Mind's Eye".
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnel_vision-t44765.0.html
So it seems that instead of just Phasing into the NP plain and simple, this new technique is actually accompanied by " exit symptoms" and Astral "signposts" as well. Although they seem to be very brief and "watered down", they are still apparent.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html
I just finished my daily Phase soak session and have to say it was very unique. I had either made a new "friend" or reacquainted myself with a old one.
I laid back in my bath water and enjoyed the heat for a minute. I then closed my eyes and started my Healing Mantra with visualizations, as described above in my last post here. When I was done the Mantra, I turned my focus to my Crystal Amplifiers. I have created a new one that is a wall hanging. I was trying to see what the roots would look like and where to put the Quartz Crystals in them.
I worked on that new design for a while, then I noticed the silhouette of what looked like a square window behind my design. Soon a face showed in it. I immediately changed my focus over to that window and kind of "zoomed" in on it. Now I could see the "being" that was in the window, but only a faint outline of it. It seemed to be losing it's outline as well. It wasn't fading, but it seemed to be blotching in and out, kind of like what happens when a computer video freezes and stutters. That used to happen years ago with the old dial up format.
I then understand what was happening. Either "he", I will call him he for now, was either having a problem adjusting to my frequency or I was to his.
I kept my focus on him for a while. We were just looking at each other, kind of "observing". All of a sudden a scene popped in to my vision. This scene was one that I have seen often, It is was what I have called in the past, my "Happy Place". That being a very tranquil Island paradise beach scene. The scene soon changed over to the "Training Ground" that I have become familiar with in the past. One by one, many of my past NP destinations were occurring. They were kind of like rapid fire. A little here, just enough to see where I was and then a switch over to another destination.
It seemed this "being" was attempting to communicate with me by using pleasant destinations that I have enjoyed in the past. I guess this was his way of saying "Hello". At least I felt like that was what he was doing. I attempted to send him a message back, using a thought, but I don't know if he was familiar with our language. Actually I really doubted he was. I guess using visuals though is some kind of "Universal" language. But, he wasn't sharing any of his actual "thoughts" though. I even thought "penny for your thoughts", lol. But that was a no go, lol!
Anyways, I thought I would share that one here. It was definitely a unique adventure and took up about 2 hours of my real time to complete. By the time I had returned my focus to my physical water, my bathwater had become lukewarm.
I have had people here PM me in the past saying I have a lot of tips, but I don't seem to share my experiences here on this Forum. I usually answer because I don't want you to try and have my experiences. I want you to see what "you" need to see, just as I am seeing what "I' need to see.. I figured I would share this one though, since it was so unique! :-)
Thanks for listening! :-)
I wanted to share this fantastic analogy of the technique Phasing with all of you.
This is a excellent post made in the past by a member of the Pulse named "claudestino" describing Phasing itself.
"There are often people posting questions like "What is phasing ? how does it differ from regular OBE's ?"
I'm sure its been answered in plenty of posts beforehand; suffice to say its a term that Frank came up with to describe entering the astral gradually, with full control.
Anyway....here's a good analogy. Its been pretty hot here over the past few days, about 33-38c, the kind of weather where you enjoy having a cold shower.
Standing in the shower, the water was luke warm. I realised that if I turned it all the way down to 15c (cold) I'd have to jump out...so I thought, I'll turn the temperature down a degree or two, every couple of minutes. That way, I was becoming used to each stage of cold water, and it felt very comfortable. After a while I got all the way down to the coldest setting, and I didn't have the urge to jump out, because I'd become accustomed to the levels of temperature in between.
Likewise, phasing is a gradual process of entering the astral."
I have received PMs from members here questioning me on using my Bathtub while Phasing. A friend of mine and current member here Baro-san brought up the fact to me that "Archimedes" also found new inspirations while in the Bath.
I recently found a article that explains that concept in easy to understand terms. The other things I read were mostly using the "Olde English" vernacular.
https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/relaxation-non-doing-archimedes-d8ca959d-0b6?p=855b02b6f6f515f1e72cb2f0e3373ef4
I used the word "muscle" in the subheading here because it seems like it is just that. I am talking about our ability to lock on, hone in, key in, whatever words you want to use to describe the when we find ourselves in what many people like to call their "mini Dreams". I have seen that term used quite a bit here lately. This ability does act like a "muscle" because you can exercise it and it will definitely strengthen through your exercising of it.
We will begin here with a easy task. This will be an adventurous one as well. One of my favorite images or should I say motion based experiences that I enjoyed when I was new and still use it often today is the simulation of a "Rollercoaster ride". I would close my eyes, relax for a few minutes and when I could see the darkness clearly, I would draw/will myself forward into it. I would then begin mentally intend to experience a Rollercoaster ride. I would feel as my etheric body was moving forward into the darkness. But at this point in the experience, there was no visuals at all, except for the "flat screen" of darkness. I would feel as I came to a turn and my etheric body would actually feel like it turned too. Now, all of a sudden I could see the faint image of being on some kind of track. I would allow my curiosity to draw me further in and I would stick with the scenario at hand.
When I first begin the "simulation", I am the one that is initiating it. IN other words, I started the mental motion of moving forward. I even indirectly made the track appear. Where that track led though, I didn't intend on. I just allowed it the freedom to go where it wanted to. Many times the track would disappear or I would be setting myself up for some kind of "slingshot" or "cannonball" experience. Both of those entail the sensation of being thrust forward, sometimes at incredible speeds in the "otherwhere". Like I said though, I didn't necessarily "drive it" there. I just held on for the ride.
A Rollercoaster simulation is a great target. I find a simple "driving simulation" to be good as well. But a Rollercoaster ride always leads to a awesome experience. The sensation of feeling the curves and rolls. The high speed. Even the feeling in the pit of your stomach always make it a fun adventure here in the physical. It can get really bizarre in the "NP" if you allow it to.
Before I wrote this post here, I did a google search on the heading "1st person view Rollercoaster rides", so that I can give you some links that you can watch beforehand, just to "prime the pump".
I found the one called the "CANNIBAL' Rollercoaster to be very good. It begins in the darkness, akin to going through a dark tunnel. That's basically the way my visuals begin as well. Not always are they just there vivid as vivid can be. Most of them begin in that "flat" dark screen. But very soon they come to life.
See how long you can hold onto the visual. Post your experiences here as well. Lock and load, but remember to fasten your seatbelts because many times it can become a thrill ride.
For those that like to take more of a "Spiritual" approach, all I am doing here is teaching you how to get into the zone. what you do while you are there is up to you. Like I said above, many times my experiences will "leave the tracks" and go somewhere else. I won't fight it though. I am locked onto wherever it wants to go. The only time I change anything is early in the exercise and that's only if the whole visual or experience disappears. Then and only then will I will it back.
So, go watch a few of these videos. Get the feel again. Almost everyone has been on a thrill ride of some sort. Use that to your advantage. Remember what it felt like. If you can't, then use a simple "driving simulation. Start will just the simple thought/intent of moving forward and see where it leads.
Some of these videos have musical accompaniment. I preferred to just watch them I could do without the screaming, lol. But do what you wish. Post your results with this. I would love to hear where they led you.
Pick a few and watch them. It's best to watch them at night in total darkness, so your entire focus is on the screen and what you are seeing there. Then, close your eyes and "recreate" the experinece yourself. Just begin the motion and see where it leads you.
CANNIBAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=w3jOzv1SV_k&feature=emb_logo
Google search on "1st person view Rollercoaster rides".
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrCwHXVhD9eoBQAfRsPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=1st+person+view+roller+coaster&fr=-s&hspart=frontier&hsimp=yhs-frontier1#action=close&id=&vid=
One of my favorites that I posted here years ago. A great way to learn how to hold your focus in one area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxvb9pgkrvI&list=PL2RpAxWhbdxqDI-jyPdG5826X6Vgoktu0
That's it for now. Good Luck and Safe Travels! :-)
First I wanted to share this post on another site that one of our valued members here found. It has a lot in common with my initial Doorway technique. I thought his take on it was very good. After I post this, I want to share with you a Phase session adventure I had today that I found really fascinating.
Thanks to Baro-san for finding this.
"Talking about your Doorway technique ...
Somebody just posted a Doorway technique on another forum, and I thought to share it here:" Quoted by Baro-san.
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The Doorway - Leading to Wonderland
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A simple visualization technique for everyone in easy steps. I come with this myself some years ago, because I wasn't good with the mainstream visualization techniques all over internet, they were too complex for me. The most important part of this visualization is the door/doors which always lead you to mysterious wonderlands. I experienced some of my most interesting astral projections with this technique. It can be done anytime during the day, before sleep or with WBTB. I can't wait for you to post your experiences:-)
**Path-1) For beginners**
Step-1)lay in your most comfortable position, close your eyes and relax for a minute or two.
Step-2)Begin to visualize in little steps:
- An empty square room, preferable with no windows
- The colors and materials of walls, preferable one color for all walls
- The floor, preferable familiar material like wood or marble
- an illuminated room or a darker mysterious one
- The door with handle, color and material
For example: pink plastic door with metal handle; red metal door with plastic handle, brown wood door and etc...
Step-3)Place yourself in the center of the room looking directly at the door. Feel the floor with your bare feets, is it cold or wet or maybe a warm carpet; smell the air, is it smell like dust or parfume or perhaps on flowers, ground your self in the experience.
Step-4)Start walking toward the door, touch the handle, is it cold, hot or rusty, feel it.
Step-5)Open the door and enter
Now the moment you enter a whole new world will emerge all around you. Explore and enjoy your stay.
**Path-2) Intermediate**
Step-1)lay in your most comfortable position, close your eyes and relax for a minute or two.
Step-2)Begin to visualize in little steps:
- an empty endless hallway/corridor, preferable with doors at both sides
The floor, preferable familiar material like wood or marble or carpet
- an illuminated hallway or a darker scary one
- The doors with handle, color and material, For example: pink plastic doors with metal handle; red metal doors with plastic handle, brown wood doors and etc... or different types
Step-3)Place yourself in the center of the hallway looking directly at endless corridor. Feel the floor with your bare feets, is it cold or wet or maybe a warm carpet; smell the air, is it smell like dust or parfume or perhaps on flowers, ground your self in the experience.
Step-4)Start walking down the corridor, examine the doors on your left or right, choose one, touch the handle, is it cold, hot or rusty, feel it.
Step-5)Open the door and enter or just open the door and look around to see what is inside. Feel free to open as many doors as you can.
Now the moment you enter a whole new world will emerge all around you or you will find a mysterious room. Explore and enjoy your stay.
Now to today's adventure. I got into the my bath water and began just relaxing. It is really cold in Minnesota today. The North wind is blowing strong again. Wind chills of 45 below zero. Brrr. So, the hot water felt great.
I closed my eyes and did my Elemental Healing Modality and Mantra. After that I just noticed for a few minutes. Time spent in the water now about 10 minutes total.
I then began the mental motion of moving forward. Since it was still early in my session, my only visual at this point was the "flat" darkness before my eyes. So, the sensation of moving forward through some kind of dark cave fit the bill here. It didn't take long though for that to change.
A visual of moving through tall grass and into a forest then appeared. The speed began to build and it soon changed over to moving on water. As the speed increased the visuals seemed to get away from more of a physicals based reality and into some "other". I couldn't see the darkness anymore to judge what depth it was, but I didn't' need to at this point. I then seemed to have taken to the air, at first just soring higher and higher as the s[peed increased. Then it was like being shot out, which we know as the "slingshot" effect. Now I was moving at I guess would be known as warp speed.
All there was at this point was colors twirling and passing me by. I thought I saw a planet, but it went by so quick I couldn't tell what it was. The speed kept increasing and now everything was a blur. But I still held on to the experience.
We seemed to slow down a bit as we reached some destination. This area looked rocky, but not rocky like Earth. It was more like "blobs" of stone. I slowed down even more now and for the first time I saw some kind of sign of life. There was these "butterfly" looking things that we just kind of floating in front of me as I passed by. They were vibrant in their color, but I couldn't tell whether they were actually "solid" or not. they seemed to have some kind of "translucence" to them. Kind of like a "gel".
The motion forward once again began to speed up and I was off. This happened over and over again. There was so many things I saw. Too many to write down here. One of the places I found myself was a place like the Void, 3D darkness, but it seemed to be even deeper if that's possible. The weird thing is that for some that while in this area, I became "ultra aware" that there was no bottom, top or even sides there. It was really hard to explain. I have been in the 3D darkness often, almost every day. But I was never made aware so strongly of that fact before. This place seemed to "command" that I was aware of this fact. I was also ultra aware of "infinity". It was weird though because those didn't seem to be thoughts.
Another area I came to was in a void and it seemed like I was surrounded by "others". Yet I couldn't see them. I could feel them and I attempted to communicate with them. But no answer came to me there. I just knew they were there. I felt like I was in the middle of some kind of Coliseum or chamber.
I had to abort the adventure. I really wanted to stay in this. But I knew that I was rapidly losing my memory of what was occurring.
Never once did I see a Human or what "we" would consider a person. I did come across what I would call entities though. They weren't in Human form. They seemed to be just colors, translucent gels, ghostly apparitions and "feelings".
When I ended the session, my bath water had gone almost cold. I knew what time I had begun my Phase session and what time it was at the end of it. With the 10 minutes of prep at the beginning of my session, the total time for the session was 1 hour and 10 minutes. That was a long time to hold onto one scenario. There was no cut scenes, no fade in or outs. The visuals and colors were extremely vivid, surreal I would say at times. I have had rapid speed experiences before, but never anything as profound and eye opening as this. Like I said, the feeling and sensation of "Infinity" seemed to be what this was all about. I thoroughly enjoyed it though and thank whoever was responsible for it.
I wish I could describe it further. But it seems that once we get to areas like this, there are no "Human" words to describe what we see and feel.
Thank You for listening! :-)
Last night, while creating a new Crystal Amplifier design, I listened on my headphones to a radio talk show. That's usually the norm while doing my work. It's either a radio talk show or musical concert on youtube or both. This one was called "Midnight in the Desert" and the show is on their 3rd Host now since Art Bell passed on. The new Hosts name is Tim Weisberg. He is really likes the paranormal and ghosts, but once in a while that show will tackle the topic of OBEs/NDEs/LDs etc. The things that we here are interesting in.
The Guest of the show was Anthony Peake. In the past I have listened to some video interviews that had Anthony in them. He is complete and articulate in his research. He is not a Scientist in a specific field of study, like A Physicist, Biologist, Archeologist, etc. That means that he doesn't get "boxed in" to a certain study of research. That leaves him open to all avenues. Here on the Astral Pulse years ago, I made a thread on a conversation he had with Campbell. Those two were great together and both of them can take a good 20 minutes to answer a single question, so the discussion were quite drawn out.
Much of what he and Tom and basically what Anthony had talked about then went over my head. That's when Anthony was focused on his book "Cheating the Ferryman". I read it and like I said, much of it I didn't really understand. He goes so deep in his research. But last night, I got everything. That had to be the best radio interview I have ever heard or a close second nest to Albert Taylor's Albert was upbeat, positive and really inspiring to listen to. Anthony last night had me nodding my head in agreement so many times I felt like a "Bobblehead", lol. His conversation was so good and so deep that the Host of the show, Tim, barely said a thing, especially after the first hour was over. The Radio show went from 11pm -2 am my time here, so 3 hours. After the first hour, the only interruption by the Host was when they had to go to commercial. I have never really seen that happen before in any of the Radio interviews I have listened to with anyone.
Anthony has a new book out called "The Hidden Universe-An Investigation into Non Human Intelligences". So, he has been making the rounds lately on many shows around the World. He has been lecturing again in a tour as well.
In his current interview on Midnight in the Desert, he began with a history lesson going back to the Sumerian days. He spoke of how the concept of "duality' in consciousness can be found in every cultural teachings of the past and still today, whether Shamanism, Buddhism, etc.
He then began talking about "Plato's Allegory of the Caves". Today I spent a lot of time researching that as well. If you aren't familiar with it, here is link to give you info pertaining to it. You will find that it has been re-dissected by many people, Psychologists, Archeologists, etc.
https://www.philosophyzer.com/the-allegory-of-the-cave-by-plato-summary-and-meaning/
I saw something completely different though. Anthony talked about how our Optic path (physical eyes) and "Mind's eye", he used the term "Pineal Gland", both crossed, but there seemed to be a short "pause" between the two of them. He talked quite a bit about how this seemed to relate to OBEs/NDEs/Astral Travel and Lucid Dreams. Yes he had labels for everything, but he did say that they all end at the same place, per se.
I got this quote from another website and thought it was a great explanation of the real meaning of the "Allegory of the Cave".
"The path to enlightenment is painful and arduous, says Plato, and requires that we make four stages in our development.
1. Imprisonment in the cave (the imaginary world)
2. Release from chains (the real, sensual world)
3. Ascent out of the cave (the world of ideas)
4. The way back to help our fellows "
This came from this website here:
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-allegory-of-the-cave-120330
Anthony is a researcher, but not necessarily as "Experiencer" He has had a few OBE related things in his years, but he isn't like William Buhlman, Tom Campbell and the others. He isn't a regular practitioner of OBEs/Astral Travel/LDs etc. He is a researcher and a very thorough one at that.
Because of the fact that Anthony isn't a practitioner he couldn't see another explanation of Plato's quote. He couldn't see how Plato's allegory connects with the void experience as well.
Lately I have been having quite a few "Cave" like experiences, I even wrote about it in this new thread here:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_pulse_island/back_to_astral_island-t47872.0.html
When you close your eyes to have a OBE or phase, you are first met with a flat darkness. After you have fully relaxed and are letting go, the darkness begins to take on a new depth. As you delve deeper into the "Cave", you begin to see brief flashes of things appearing on the Cave walls. Similar to a Cave painting. The deeper you get into the cave, the more visuals are appearing, until finally a full blown scenario is right there and you are in it. What happened here is at first your Optic pathway (physical eyes) are your major focus. As you go deeper into your focus, there seems to be a "pause". this could also be where the "click out" occurs. Next you find that your new focus has moved into the your Mind's eye pathway and you are experiencing a whole new reality.
Plato's Cave can be seen as a description of the whole process of non physical exploration by any means or vehicle in general. You go from being a "prisoner", as of living only this physical focus, to getting a "sneak peek"/glimpse of something else, which leads you to venturing outside of the cave and finding a whole new reality. Then lastly returning back to the Cave to teach and aid others here.
Definitely food for thought. But it's also a great way to understand what this whole practice here is all about.
Here is link to his new book:
https://www.anthonypeake.com/product/the-hidden-universe-an-investigation-into-non-human-intelligences/
If you can go back and listen to that radio interview I think you would really enjoy it. Here is a link to that station's website:
http://midnightinthedesert.com/
There are also great video interviews of Anthony's on youtube. I used the title "Anthony Peake 2020 interviews"!
Thank you for listening.
Lumaza,
I checked out the radio stations website regarding the radio interview you mention. Looks like you can only listen to previous shows if you are a monthly subscriber. I did go and watch a couple videos of Anthony Peake regarding the pineal gland and the Lucia 3 light machine on Youtube. Have you tried this machine? I remember you talking about a light machine from a previous thread but can't remember if this was it. Anyways, he seems like an interesting man. I was hoping his new book 'The Hidden Universe' was available on Audible.com but looks like it's not out yet. I did however put a couple of his books in my audio queue that were available in Canada. I will give them a try. If his new book doesn't show up in audio version than I will buy the paperback version but will give it some time.
Quote from: T-Man on March 09, 2020, 01:03:17
Lumaza,
I checked out the radio stations website regarding the radio interview you mention. Looks like you can only listen to previous shows if you are a monthly subscriber. I did go and watch a couple videos of Anthony Peake regarding the pineal gland and the Lucia 3 light machine on Youtube. Have you tried this machine? I remember you talking about a light machine from a previous thread but can't remember if this was it. Anyways, he seems like an interesting man. I was hoping his new book 'The Hidden Universe' was available on Audible.com but looks like it's not out yet. I did however put a couple of his books in my audio queue that were available in Canada. I will give them a try. If his new book doesn't show up in audio version than I will buy the paperback version but will give it some time.
I saw that too. You have to pay to hear that interview. It is definitely worth the price though and Radio shows need to get a revenue, other than just Advertisers, as well.
Anthony mentioned in the interview that he had a OBE like experience about 3 and half minutes into his viewing of the "white light" of the Lucia. I haven't used the Lucia yet. There are only a few places in the US here to have a session with it. I own the Laxman light/sound machine, but I haven't used it since my bout and current diagnosis with Trigeminal Neuralgia. I even wear glasses that have a FL 41 tint to them. It forces you to see the world through "rose colored" lenses, lol.
I will tell you one thing, I am totally convinced that light/sound machines create a release of DMT from your pineal gland. They do it quite quickly as well. I found my Laxman to be great "training wheels". I am a huge proponent of the Laxman. I am not on all of the light/sound machines out there though. I found some of them can be dangerous. The "flickering" lights aren't for everyone. If you ever get to use a light/sound machine, make sure you start the program at a weaker light intensity. Then gradually work you way up. Even the "default" setting on a machine can be too strong. I am saying this from experience, so definitely heed my warning.
I listened to a few other recent interviews of Anthony's over on youtube. But haven't found any of them to be nearly as good as his one with Tim on Midnight in the Desert. Possibly that was because Tim, the Host, gave Anthony the floor uninterrupted for much of the interview. It was like Anthony was giving a 3 hour summary on all the books he has written and all of his knowledge on the topic at hand he has found combined. I wish there was a way to record it and share it with people here that wished to here it. As I have seen, youtube does have many radio show interviews, but they seem to have a certain "time limit" before they are released. I know that's the way it works with Coast to Coast AM and Fade to Black with Jimmy Church.
Many times when I log onto the Astral Pulse Forums if I don't have a post to make, I will go to the section of the Forum called "Users Online". There I will see what people are reading right now themselves. Many times I come across a hidden gem, kind of blast from the past. 3 Days ago I found another great one. It was a thread created by a member of ours from the past named Todd421757. This one was based on a technique that he had for achieving a successful OBE, in the true sense of the words "Out of Body Experience". I found it was definitely made for more of a "etheric", RTZ (real time zone) experience. Here is a link to that thread:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/a_very_easy_obe_technique_that_needs_some_fine_tuning-t38413.0.html
I posted in it as well, under my former name here "Lionheart" and in the past, I found success with the technique as well. I can't remember for the life of me though why I stopped using it. Possibly it was because, as many of here already know, we are challenged to keep coming up with something new.
For the past 3 nights now, I went back to using that technique and had 100% success with it every time. Actually I had 3 separate instances in the 3rd night after I became aware that the onset of SP (sleep paralysis) was occurring. One of the 3 times got aborted due to my little puppy sleeping on my legs. I was just about to "exit" and he began twitching around. The other 2 times were a success, Upon the failed attempt, I moved my puppy up to a position just between MJ and I, so his movements wouldn't be an interruption.
The first 2 nights, I had full separation, after SP as well.
I began with just focusing on the area at the end of my feet. I focused on that area being about a foot beyond my outstretched legs and feet. I then began counting from 1-20 and back down to 1 again in cycles. Once in awhile I omitted one of the numbers as I mentally counted. I did that for about 10 minutes, until I finally clicked out. I didn't think at the time that I had lost consciousness, but I must have. When I clicked back in, I felt a actual "click" and then the warm sensation began. It first started as a warm wave, very calm. The "Astral winds" then began to blow. I don't know how else to explain those. It sounds like wind. As usual the waves of energy began pulsing back and forth down my body and back up again and once the waves and sounds got in "sync", I felt my legs rising and I was soon out. All 3 nights, the first thing I could see is that I was in my room or a replica of my room. Then there was an incredible movement forward, akin to being shot out of a cannon and I was somewhere else.
In my Phase soak session today, I thought more about that experience, but I also thought abut this whole Doorway thread in general. Much of this thread has been written like people already understand the concept of focusing on something outside of the body. I should have started even more basic that. I should have started with people just closing there eyes and becoming aware of 4 points of direction around them. No motion needed. Just simple awareness. If motion did accompany the thought of the direction, the better for you. Then you could just go with the flow and see where that motion led you.
Why I liked Todd's technique so much is the simplicity. All you had to do was to focus on a point outside of your body as you naturally fell asleep. There was no mental motion forward. No color or geometric shapes involved. I found it really easy to focus on the spot 1 foot from the end of my feet. I even felt like I was being stretched while doing that. The counting was just something extra to keep my mind busy while I fell asleep.
Currently it seems that many of us do have time on our hands, due to the current circumstances in the World. That gives us a great opportunity to experience something outside of our physical existence. For the more experienced people, it's kind of a walk down memory lane. Kind of like "re-hashing" something we once knew.
Thanks for reminding us of this very simple yet effective technique. It comes down to holding our focus away from the body while falling asleep. I will switch from my own technique to this one for a while and report if it works for me.
Quote from: LightBeam on March 25, 2020, 15:37:46
Thanks for reminding us of this very simple yet effective technique. It comes down to holding our focus away from the body while falling asleep. I will switch from my own technique to this one for a while and report if it works for me.
A good practice is getting used to these "directional points" during the day as well. Just close your eyes for a few minutes and lock into a direction. Become aware of it. Feel it or feel the "pull" from it When I do that, mental associations almost immediately follow the thought of said direction. Many times that will lead to a experience/adventure and now you have successfully Phased. It can be that easy once you learn to "allow" it to!
I personally like the option to pinpoint 6 directions, as I have said many times throughout this thread. That gives me 5 other choices, if the first one doesn't "feel" right! :-)
I am using my Doorway thread here to post my most recent experience here. My Doorway technique has led me to be able to really hone in on certain focus targets.
About a week ago I read a thread on another Forum that was focusing on Worldwide Mediations, as a collective. In this one, they were using the focus target of a "Rainbow Bridge" that linked our physical Earth here to what the New Age Community calls the "New Earth" I didn't share in their group meditations. I only do collective work with people here that I am familiar with. Still, I liked the target and decided to use it in my Phase sessions.
You can find out more about this at this link here. The picture pertaining to the focus is the second post on that thread. I made one post myself there years ago, but found it wasn't the site I wanted to correspond on. I do peruse it often though.
https://www.transients.info/roundtable/threads/worldwide-shift-meditation-29-may-ongoing.7796/
Each Phase session focused on this "Rainbow Bridge" and has led me to becoming aware of all kinds of things there. The first thing I noticed was that the distance/length of the bridge seemed to change from day to day. It was almost like it was "waxing and waning" according to the emotional temperature of Humanity here in our physical realm.
There seem to be no structures at all there. It is plush and full of life like Earth. There are beautiful waterfalls, forests, landscapes, etc., but no buildings of any kind. They could be underground though. My experiences took place on the ground. I didn't really explore what may lie beneath it.
When I go there, I am a single point of consciousness. Yet I find the energy there to be amazing. The area is more "Crystaline" then Earth here is. The Crystals are above ground there though, not underground like they are here.
I have seen beings. They have a somewhat human shape/form, but are beings of light. Today I saw a few animals pass by me. They seemed to be similar to what we would call a dear. But they weren't exactly alike.
The Beings of Light there noticed me. I felt I was allowed to view what I was. They did trail me though, likely based on curiosity though.
During my second Phase session there last week, I did have a interruption though. Someone was messing with me there. I was deep in a good NP focus and all of a sudden I heard a door open and someone, (I thought it might be one of our daughter in-laws), called out to MJ in a frantic voice. I immediate returned to my physical focus with the thought, oh no, we don't need more chaos. Enough is enough. After I got out of the tub I went to MJ and asked what's up. She looked at me with a confused look and said "what do you mean". No body had come over at all. She also said the girls would have said "Mom", not Mary Jo. So, doh, I was duped by the NP. Oh well, it happens.
I used the last part of today's session to briefly focus on Utah's "Skinwalker Ranch". I had read about happenings there years ago and have been enthralled by the show "The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch", that was on the History Channel. I watched a few episodes that I missed on Youtube there. So, if you wish, you can go to youtube and check it out. The premise of the show is logging the strange phenomenon and happenings that were occurring there. SPOILER ALERT. In last night's finale the scientists all came to the conclusion based on all of their evidence that the phenomenon there should be called "it". As in a intelligence at work. They also see through their research that it seems like the "it" is communicating with them. It's doing it in a way they don't understand though.
Back to my Phase session. I focused on the area. Put myself in the pasture area, then focused upwards. I was soon spiraling rather violently out of control. The vertigo sensation was too much for me and I had to abort. There is definitely something there. I don't think I will do that again though! I'll leave it up to the pros! :-)
I shared this all with you because I constantly hear people saying that they want to read about other peoples actual NP Journeys. I rarely share because #1 I am too lazy to write them in my log and also here! :-D #2 I want people to have their own experiences. I will do anything in my power to help them get to the "Doorway", but what they find there is for them to find. What they learn is for them to learn. It is a personal Journey. I have attempted collective experimentation in the past, but that seems to lose it's interest quite quickly!
Thank you for listening! :-)
I am not going to update my experiences with this "New Earth" scenario every day here in this thread here. It has left me with many unanswered questions as the "other realms" seem to do.
After each experience I am left pondering and attempt to understand it all. Some things I see there make sense.
I still use my opening "healing Mantra/modality" after I have relaxed in the hot water of the tub for a few minutes. Then I go right into focusing on this Rainbow Bridge. The fact that I keep ending up at the same destination with no visualizing of this actual planet like experience shows me that I was meant to see it and that there is a reason behind it. What that reason is, I don't have a clue. Each time I ask a question while in this scenario I am immediately transferred over to a different part of this planet. It seems like for now "observation" is the only thing allowed.
There seems to be some kind of rules there, some do's and don'ts. I am learning more about them quickly, lol.
In many of my other planet like adventures, even while viewing our planet here, I do "flybys". I can cover a lot of ground from the air. I view things from a point of consciousness, so fly bys are simple to maneuver. On this planet I can't though. I have attempted it many times and each time I get the same result. I find myself in the 3D darkness again for a brief time. It's kind of like getting trained! :| I can though cover a lot of ground from the ground level. there I seem to be able to move at a great pace . I seem to "glide". Another thing that is weird is my 360 degree vision is shut off as well. If I want to see something in a direction, I feel I am turning that way. Normally while in point consciousness mode, I can see all around just by a simple intent. There is no need to turn to look at all. So yes, it does seem there is some kind of "ruleset" here.
I can swear this place is being "Terraformed'. There seems to be two Suns. One in the East and one in the West. The purpose of two Suns I would see could give the plant life and land maximum growth. I can't feel a temperature there or even tell what kind of gravity there is. The skies are a beautiful golden color. The colors everywhere I see are extremely strong and vivid. I would say that whatever "vessel" is used for new souls to incarnate into, would have to have their eyes adjusted to be able to live in this environment.
I said above that it seemed like this place was being terraformed. Look at "Hydroponic growth". The lighting has to be perfect. The conditions just right for maximum yield. I am seeing this here. Although there is waterways and waterfalls, etc., I don't see any clouds at all. This doesn't make sense to me. Waterfalls, lakes and rivers create water vapor, thus forming clouds. Yet there are no clouds to be seen here.
Now to the "Light Beings" that seem to be responsible for setting up this new School. I have never seen them move or even nod, make a motion, etc. One, sometimes more of them seem to be just observing me as I am them. Any questions I have are answered by relocation to another spot on the planet. They have a Human like body form. They are bright white, yet have a shape of legs, arms and definitely a head. The head is thinner and taller than ours is. The top of there head seems to shimmer upwards akin to that of the dancing of a flame.
I still call this "New Earth". But this isn't the 4D/5D place that the New Agers speak about. This a very physical place. It is definitely a 3D reality. The only way I could see any of us getting there is to have our bodies die here on this Earth and then opt to reincarnate in this next "School".
I am going to maintain my focus on this area everyday in my Phase soak sessions. I will stick with it for as long as I can. It has definitely got my attention. 8-) :-)
Quote from: Lumaza on June 04, 2020, 23:17:42
This a very physical place. It is definitely a 3D reality. The only way I could see any of us getting there is to have our bodies die here on this Earth and then opt to reincarnate in this next "School".
Or with a spaceship if this place is within our physical cosmos :) I think you are eager for our Earth to reach the next evolutionary level and have stumbled in to this planet. Do you a sense that they are more evolved than we are, and they are probably already in college, while we are still in junior high lol. If you keep visiting there perhaps you can be shown examples on how can we reach these levels.
Quote from: LightBeam on June 05, 2020, 02:40:01
Or with a spaceship if this place is within our physical cosmos :)
Like I said above, in our "current form", we wouldn't be able to inhabit this World. We or the World itself would have to go through some kind of "alteration" to be able to dwell there.
QuoteI think you are eager for our Earth to reach the next evolutionary level and have stumbled in to this planet. Do you a sense that they are more evolved than we are, and they are probably already in college, while we are still in junior high lol. If you keep visiting there perhaps you can be shown examples on how can we reach these levels.
I sense that these Beings of Light have been creating "Earths" like this for a while now. They are much more evolved then we are. I feel that they are learning through their own experiences as "Builders", how to fine tune their creations. We tend to learn "on the go", they seem to too!
After another successful journey to this place, (that makes 7 days in a row now), I was just left contemplating in the peaceful quiet of the 3D dark zone, aka "the Void".
I had so many questions about this new place, like "could this be this Earth here after man has for some reason has become extinct, due to a number of circumstances that could occur, like disease, disaster, our own failings, etc."?
I watched a great Documentary years ago called "Life After People'. The premise of the Documentary was to show how all we have created a built would turn back to dust and once again be consumed by the nature and wildlife that we stole it from. The first time period was 10 days after man. Then they began to leap into years and years later. Their opinions and conclusions came via Architects, Archeologists, Climatologists and basically Scientific knowledge itself. It basically showed that nearly all evidence of our civilization would disappear. There would still be a few "Artifacts" left over. We all see how the Pyramids have incredible longevity. I would hope all of our "Nuclear waste" has been neutralized by then! :roll:
It's really hard to judge the size of anything there. Viewing it from the a point of consciousness doesn't really give me anything to compare it to. Everything could larger or even smaller than it currently is on this planet at the moment.
I have seen a lot of nature, like trees, plants, grass, etc. and a like I said some form of animal. I have also seen waterfalls and vast bodies of water. Whether they are Oceans or lakes is hard to tell. I still can't do Flybys. I'm sure these animals have a purpose though, just like all animals here and the past extinct ones did. I have always believed that the Dinosaurs were utilized for the "fertilization" that they created. When that was no longer needed, neither were they and they became extinct. I believe that every animal suits a purpose here, even those pesky Mosquitoes, lol!
Human ego believes that all this was created just for us but they are sorely mistaken. You see this play out all the time when we make our decisions.
Now to the Beings of Light. They look eerily familiar to what the Russian Cosmonauts witnessed in space aboard their Space Station back in 1984.
Here's a link to that:
https://www.techeblog.com/mind-blowing-story-of-russian-cosmonauts-who-saw-angels-in-space/
I was trying to find something to compare their appearance with and this was the closest I could get. When the Cosmonauts told of their experience with what they saw, it was immediately ridiculed as a Hallucination caused by fatigue from being in space so long or it could have been a brief change in their Oxygen. Even the fact that all of them saw the same thing was explained away as a shared Hallucination, which the Scientists and Researchers said is something that supposedly does occur.
I didn't see any wings on these Beings. But I haven't seen them fly or even move period. They do have a glowing luminescence to them though. Their arms and legs appear to be "spindly" They just seem to be there observing me as I am observing them. I can't even have a blinking contest with them to see who blinks first, lol! :-D They don't have any facial features at all, that I can see. I did attempt today to "filter" my own visual perception of this place. I used a red visual filter in a lame attempt to get a "infra red" kind of appearance. I then changed it to green and lastly blue. Like I said I love exploring and learning new things! :-)
On last thing that is kind off topic. Today I am incredibly sluggish due to a night full of LDs. I can't remember what the premise of these experiences were. I do know though that they seem to have been continuations experiences, akin to "Lifer" experiences I had in the past. I call a "Lifer" a night full of LDs where you get brief little click ins and outs. When you return or click back in, you find that everything has "aged", including yourself.
Have you ever had this happen to you? When you awaken in the morning totally exhausted and drained from a night filled with LDs? Do you believe consciousness itself ever sleeps? I believe there is good reason that most of us never remember our Dreams or even experience LDs. It's because the "mind" itself does need a period of inactivity and rest. This drowsiness I have today isn't the drowsiness you just feel upon awaking in the morning as normal. It feels more like being totally "burned out" and depleted!
Quote from: Lumaza on June 06, 2020, 00:17:36
Have you ever had this happen to you? When you awaken in the morning totally exhausted and drained from a night filled with LDs? Do you believe consciousness itself ever sleeps? I believe there is good reason that most of us never remember our Dreams or even experience LDs. It's because the "mind" itself does need a period of inactivity and rest. This drowsiness I have today isn't the drowsiness you just feel upon awaking in the morning as normal. It feels more like being totally "burned out" and depleted!
I'm actually the opposite. I feel very energized/excited during the day after LDs/APs even long and intense ones. As far as consciousness sleeping, I don't know. I have experienced many times, peaceful environments, where I just observe the stillness and it felt very relaxing and rejuvenating. I think tiredness is an attribute to physical vehicles. I have experienced many times the same thing over and over with my physical body and state of mind. When I eat whatever, the typical American diet, I feel tired, fatigued, urge to take naps, waking up drowsy. When I eat less carbs and definitely gluten free and very little dairy, lots of vegetables, I only need 5 hours of sleep. I wake up very early in the morning and as soon as I open my eyes I am totally awake, fresh and ready to go. No fatigue, no tiredness at all. I even have more APs when I watch what I eat, which is most of the time. I only fall off the wagon around holidays and I really feel the difference including significant decrease in LDs and APs. So, I think our physical bodies impose many limitations and we cant even imagine what would be like to never have have the need to sleep.
Quote from: LightBeam on June 06, 2020, 02:04:54
I'm actually the opposite. I feel very energized/excited during the day after LDs/APs even long and intense ones. As far as consciousness sleeping, I don't know. I have experienced many times, peaceful environments, where I just observe the stillness and it felt very relaxing and rejuvenating. I think tiredness is an attribute to physical vehicles. I have experienced many times the same thing over and over with my physical body and state of mind. When I eat whatever, the typical American diet, I feel tired, fatigued, urge to take naps, waking up drowsy. When I eat less carbs and definitely gluten free and very little dairy, lots of vegetables, I only need 5 hours of sleep. I wake up very early in the morning and as soon as I open my eyes I am totally awake, fresh and ready to go. No fatigue, no tiredness at all. I even have more APs when I watch what I eat, which is most of the time. I only fall off the wagon around holidays and I really feel the difference including significant decrease in LDs and APs. So, I think our physical bodies impose many limitations and we cant even imagine what would be like to never have have the need to sleep.
Don't get me wrong I too awaken revitalized and energized after having LDs. It's these "Lifer" episodes that seem so taxing.
Where it comes to proper diet, I didn't eat anything any heavier than the previous days. MJ and I eat quite healthy. We always have a good daily intake of our fruit and veggies. We watch our carb intake as well. So in this case I can rule that out.
Quote from: Lumaza on June 06, 2020, 02:20:37
Don't get me wrong I too awaken revitalized and energized after having LDs. It's these "Lifer" episodes that seem so taxing.
Where it comes to proper diet, I didn't eat anything any heavier than the previous days. MJ and I eat quitter healthy. We always have a good daily intake of our fruit and veggies. We watch our carb intake as well. So in this case I can rule that out.
Ah, then this is a special case :) I don't know why would it cause this. Try asking for energizing next time to see if this command will change anything.
By the way, I have seen these Life after People shows. Very interesting, but kind of depressing. If people die off, there is no other way of having another reasoning type of creature by natural evolution. It has to be external interference and planting new types of humans here on Earth. Hopefully a notch up by intellect and moral values.
I am in agreement with LB along certain lines here: Maybe while still incarnated within Physical Reality we are subject to various and sometimes debilitating conditions when recovering from Non Physical experiences. The causes can be diet, available energy (energy work), translation difficulties or simply the condition of being based in PR while undergoing the likely taxing NPR experiences such as the "Lifer" experiences Lu describes. Simply put, the NPR can wear us out at certain times.
In my experience diet, lifestyle and energy availability are definite factors...intent or "need" can often overcome these obstacles, but not always, nor without our noticing the energy expenditure.
Just a couple ideas
Quote from: LightBeam on June 06, 2020, 02:25:18
If people die off, there is no other way of having another reasoning type of creature by natural evolution. It has to be external interference and planting new types of humans here on Earth. Hopefully a notch up by intellect and moral values.
Humanity that we see today was not the result of "natural" evolution. We were let's say "manufactured". According to what Dr. Michio Kaku believes, we have been "dumbed down" through the years. :-(
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on June 06, 2020, 03:45:12
In my experience diet, lifestyle and energy availability are definite factors...intent or "need" can often overcome these obstacles, but not always, nor without our noticing the energy expenditure.
I agree. Although we want to "control" everything on some level, some things seem beyond our control. Sometimes we just have to take our medicine and like it!
Quote from: Lumaza on June 06, 2020, 03:47:05
Humanity that we see today was not the result of "natural" evolution. We were let's say "manufactured". According to what Dr. Michio Kaku believes, we have been "dumbed down" through the years. :-(
I tend to believe that as well. But it makes you think how did the first larger species ever in our physical universe came to be. I understand microbes have the conditions of water, air and other elements and can spring to existence quicker, but I think natural evolution does exist within the physical world. Adaptation, environment changes changes the attributes of different species. It's interesting to think how exactly manifestation from the NP happens to the physical. Something I do not entirely understand.
Quote from: LightBeam on June 06, 2020, 03:53:21
I tend to believe that as well. But it makes you think how did the first larger species ever in our physical universe came to be.
I would say they were "manufactured" as well. As I have seen and am still seeing our Earth isn't the only School that "they" created. Trial and error would have taught the ones in charge what works and what doesn't. Each classification of animals has shown us that they do serve a purpose. That definitely includes our underwater/Aquatic friends! :-)
Here is a great technique that was shared by one of a member here back in 2012 named "BlueHalcyon". He comes at the targeting of "Doorways" in a completely different and innovative way! 8-) There are many different paths to achieve the same or similar results. People just need to find the way that works for them. Remember though, techniques like this are just "Blueprints". That doesn't mean they are set in stone.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_staircase_visualization-t37806.0.htm
I'm a little late in responding to the latest posts here on this thread but do have a couple of observations.
To Reply 193 Have you noticed two suns in the sky lately? There have been reports and while no one can say it is 2 suns what they are saying is that it looks like it and I've seen it myself. The sun is also moving north and doing so rather rapidly. This might be normal but I don't think to this degree.
To Reply 196 I have experienced that complete exhaustion after a night of continuous LDs with mental input. It's a tired like you just can't explain. It's very different to ones that leave you energized and eager.
I'm not sure that we have specifically been dumbed down so much as we have degraded in physical body and programming over time. Perhaps that is one of the conundrums of creation. To us it's like creating the perpetual motion machine, maybe 'they' haven't got it right yet either.
Love a stone staircase :-)
Quote from: Nameless on June 08, 2020, 03:29:17
I'm a little late in responding to the latest posts here on this thread but do have a couple of observations.
To Reply 193 Have you noticed two suns in the sky lately? There have been reports and while no one can say it is 2 suns what they are saying is that it looks like it and I've seen it myself. The sun is also moving north and doing so rather rapidly. This might be normal but I don't think to this degree.
That's interesting Nameless! I have never seen this, but I have heard from others in the past that mention this a well. You can find a few youtube videos that speak of this too. I know the Sun is currently in a powerful Solar minimum.
QuoteTo Reply 196 I have experienced that complete exhaustion after a night of continuous LDs with mental input. It's a tired like you just can't explain. It's very different to ones that leave you energized and eager.
I had a feeling that someone else here would know what I meant. You described it perfectly!
QuoteI'm not sure that we have specifically been dumbed down so much as we have degraded in physical body and programming over time. Perhaps that is one of the conundrums of creation. To us it's like creating the perpetual motion machine, maybe 'they' haven't got it right yet either.
I see it like many right now seem to have "Blinders" on.
QuoteLove a stone staircase :-)
Indeed! :-) 8-)
So a quick update. I guess I am supposed to continue posting about this here, so I shall! :-)
A few days ago I saw the first structure I have seen yet there. It seemed to be oval or circular in shape. I could see some kind of "compartments". But the closer I got to it, the more it faded away. A "Ship" of some sort, perhaps! :
In today's experience I arrived at a area of darkness that was on this planet. Even the Light Beings seemed to have lost their "shimmer". I could actually make out more of their form now. They have 4 spindly fingers on each hand. Normally they are so bright it's hard to see detail.
I then went into some kind of mental telepathic back and forth. This was more pertaining to why a area of darkness was necessary. It all goes back to the need for "balance". I stayed in this conversation for quite a while.
I still have the intent to view this planet from above, but for some reason that is not allowed! :? I want to see it from space as well, to see if their may be any "structure", such as a Dyson Sphere or something.
My visual always begin the same. I visualize our Earth from above. After I get a good focus, I become aware of a spiraling Rainbow protruding from the Earth. I then focus on "riding" it to wherever it leads. The next thing I know, I am on this new Earth like planet, being viewed by my new friends there. I soon find myself gliding through the many beautiful landscapes that are there. But like I said, today I landed in some dark area. I don't know if it was at night or if somehow this part of the planet hadn't been "developed" yet. :? :? :? ...more questions! :? :? :?
Today was another successful Phase session to that "New Earth". I wish I was told some name for it.
I began with my healing Mantra work and then immediately began visualizing our Earth from the view of space. Shortly after that the rainbow bridge began to faintly appear and I rode it to wherever it to the other planet. Once again, I do not intend to see anything. I just ride/glide along the rainbow bridge until I spontaneously show up somewhere. For some reason that "somewhere" keeps leading to the same place.
Once there, I see the landscape, foliage, etc. and there is the Light Being.
My focus immediately goes to the Being. I stare at where I think it's eyes would be and I sense peace, tranquility and calmness. The thought comes into my mind that they too likely had to go through periods of strife and hardship during their own evolution. As usual, before I could even get the whole thought out and "answer" was incoming already. That answer being that in their current form/vessel, no they hadn't encountered that. But, in the consciousness as a whole there is a record of it. Likely meaning what we call the "Akashic record".
From what I have seen from them so far, they are devoid of "emotions". I guess that makes sense because emotions could lead to "bias". They are set on their task and are "passionate" about it.
It's funny because above I spoke of how they interrupt my thoughts before I even have a chance to finish them. I too am guilty of that. People that know me and have spoke with me, even from the Pulse here know that I have the habit of interjecting before they have finished their own comments. I am aware of that and have been changing it. It's funny though because now when they talk to me, they kind of expect my interjecting and seem to take my silence as "disinterest" in the conversation at had, lol! :-D
I found that I did interject in the past because of #1 I am a very passionate person. My passion shows in everything I do. #2, I fear that by not blurting out my thought, that I will "forget" it! My memory doesn't seem to be what it used to be. So I apologize to those that I have done this to in the past here.
Back to the new friends there. Yes, I have never sensed any emotion from them. By just staring at this Being, I can see that "he, (I will call him he, I don't feel like saying "it"), seems to be as "etheric" as he is physical. Kind of like ghostly at time and solid at other times. While focused on his lack of emotion, I was reminded of Scientology and how they work to achieve that as well. One of their "exercises", is berating a person repeatedly for a period of time until it no longer bothers them. It's kind of funny though, I worked for a company owned by one of the "higher ups" in Scientology (he has now since passed on). In a conversation we had, he asked if I was willing to become a Scientologist. I said no. During a conversation with him a few years into my being in his employ, he told me that all the money and teachings he had received to move up the ranks, when he finally got to the top, he was told "God is a Alien". I looked at him and laughed and said I could have told you that when I was just a kid, lol, and that would have saved him a whole bunch of time and money. He looked back at me and didn't say anything. As I was leaving the room, he said just remember, I will buy you a Volkswagen, not a Porsche. I didn't have a clue what that meant until later in my employ.
We were all on the road working shows as pitchman. At that time, the "Pitchman" code seemed to be, the first $20 goes for lunch, the next $20 goes for dinner and then you take a bit more for nightly entertainment. Now, I finally understood what the Boss has said. They were all stealing and all the owners of the companies knew it. That seemed to be overlooked by the production the person had made. I remember one time when a great Pitchman was fired from another company due to his severe Cocaine abuse. He kept getting busted for it as well. The very next day, my Boss hired him. I questioned that decision and he said, look at he production he brings. I said look at the trouble he causes. He then said again, look at he production he brings. I knew right then and there what was really up. My time with the company ended a few years later when I arrived a shows, set up, then had my product arrive a few days later or when I went to what I was told was a "new" show, just to find out that I was doing damage control because of the last crew of ours that was there. I knew what the company was like, but I also was confident in my abilities and knew that I could control what was happening my own destiny. They may have been a bunch of "screw ups", but I knew I wasn't. I enjoyed the work and the atmosphere.
It was strange how all that mental conversation all of a sudden occurred just by looking in the eyes or the area of where the eyes of this
Being would have been.
Today's Phase soak began as usual. I got into the bathtub. Got comfortable. Closed my eyes and did my healing Mantra . I then made the intent to see the "spinning top toy" that I often use as a imaged focus target. I replied to another member here today about this target of focus that I often used. So, I decided to use it today.
Like usual the spinning top began to fade in and out. At first being just the outline of the top and soon moving into a full visual. At least enough that i could see it spinning. Then it began morphing into different things in what seemed like 5 second intervals. I stayed aware and went through at least 20 new morphed targets. It was like "Morph-a-mania", lol. Some of the things were extremely vivid, others took on more of a ghostly appearance.
The thought then came to my mind about how we see "ghosts" here in the physical. Sometimes you see a outline, other times it's a vivid human form with clothes and all. That made me think about how we might be visually appearing in other dimensions as well when we have APs/OBEs, even LDs.
That thought immediately triggered some kind of teaching on levels of awareness. There are so many. At first you may see a outline or very fuzzy, fading in and out form. Then the visual gets stronger and now you can make out more the target. The target then seems to become second nature to a actual environment that is beginning to come into view. Next it moves into a full scene. The next levels of awareness are hard to describe. They are extremely vivid, but your "viewing screen" seems to have changed into "sensurround"/360 degree vision. You no longer need to turn your head to see, everything is just there. When the visual became vivid for the first time, you likely experienced your Peripheral vision" widening as well. When everything goes into sensurround mode, it is so surreal and extremely hard to maintain the state you find yourself. This doesn't happen to me all the time, but when it does, I can normally only hold it for a few minutes before I have to abort. It seems like it gets so strong that it puts my mind into "tilt". It's akin to when you get a strong "download" and it's so overpowering that it forces a "click out".
I haven't read any threads here that talked about that aspect of Phasing. After experiencing it I can see why though. Words fail you when you go to explain it.
I posted here today because the "Morph-a-mania thing was so bizarre. It was really hard to hold my focus on just passively observing it all. I knew the second part though, the part about "levels of awareness" was meant to be a teaching moment, so I am here sharing it with you all now.
I miss having a bathtub so much. ( nice )
Quote from: omcasey on July 02, 2020, 03:21:24
I miss having a bathtub so much. ( nice )
Mine is a 5ft standard one that you find in older homes. I am 6'2, but I make it work, lol! :-)
Thankfully you can buy air pillows and cushioned back mats, otherwise getting comfortable and staying comfortable for in it for lengthy periods of time would be pout of the question. I still have to readjust once in awhile, but then I just return my focus back to where it was. I find it very easy to re-attain that focus once again. I do also find that afterwards that I have to give some time to reacclimate myself once again to my physical body. That shows me that there is indeed a noticeable change in mental frequency/brainwaves occurring during my sessions.
GeeZ Lumaza, that's HUGE, LOL, compared to mine. Standard trailer issue circa 1960s (I think). Or maybe as far back as the dinosaurs.
This post is so overdue. I have been wanting to make it for months now, but for some reason something would happen and show me the time wasn't right at that moment.
I sub-titled this "Awareness and Observation" because that is exactly what we are going to "do". We are going to utilize our awareness as we observe. Yes, we are not going to "try", we are either going to do or not do. It's that simple. For more on the difference between the two, read this thread I created here. I know it's hard to to take the word "try" out of our usage. Many times it is the right word for your sentence. The thing is, we are going into this with a positive attitude and absolutes. Being aware of your own use of the word "try" and changing it to something more positive and absolute will help you in any of your endeavors in life in general.
If you do read that thread, please pay particular attention to the post near the bottom of the thread where I give "Thanks" to Xanth and all of the active Moderators that are still here today. I also want to say Thank You to the Moderators that came before them. Without them, we wouldn't have such a great Forum or any Forum here today to come to, period! :-) They don't hear this enough and they should! :-)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/quottryquot_over_quotdoquot-t47794.0.html
Now that we have that out of the way, we can move on to the "Awareness and Observation" part of my post.
What we are going to do is very easy. It can be used by new members to get a "feel" for what it's like to have a non physical/altered state of being experience. For those more experienced, it makes a great launching pad for very quick shifts. If I were a new member and serious about learning more about this practice in general, I would invest in or acquire a book that you can use as a Journal to log and go back to when you wish to review/view your progress.
When I do what I call my Phase soaks, which is Phasing while lying in bathwater in my tub or even when I close my eyes to go to sleep at night, I say in my mind "By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body". The term "By my act of will" has been used in Magick for years now. I have studied Magick and Hypnotism for many years now. Both of them are very similar in this practice here. By mentally stating that I have already started the mental disengagement or disassociation process from my physical body.
As a teen. I thought that Magick would instantly create what I wished to have manifest immediately upon request. Yes, I was young and foolish, lol! I studied all the disciplines. I studied the work of the past famous Magickians of all times. I came to see after years though that Magick was "focused will and intent" itself. It's the same as Prayer and this practice that we do here. Any action, mundane or magical that helps fulfill one's "True Will" is Magick. Both work on a principle theologians call ex opere operantis, or "by the work of the person working," meaning that a person's preparation and other measures of "fitness" or "skill" will affect the outcome. Why all the talk on "Magick"? It's because of the use of ritual. The use of chants/Mantras, Sigils/symbols and the like. I have found that that is where the true Magick lies. The "Energy signatures" that are being utilized time and time again. Some dating back to the times of the Ancients!
I have found that those things, the Mantras/mental chants, Sigils and symbolism are also found in our practice here. Look at the Monroe Institute and others like it. They are involved in group work sessions and because of that they use the same non-physical meeting locations, the same Binaural Beats/Hemi-Sync, the same mental prep. The Monroe uses a large Crystal for it's NP meeting area. Many meditations use the use of giant Crystal to "get in sync" as well. Fancy that! Just as many Magick users will use the same Sigil, that has it's own meaning or chant the same words that have been uttered by Magick users for ages. It's almost like a "energy signature" has been created. I too use a Mantra at the start of my sessions, I will talk about that a bit later. Why all the ritual? Because it has in the past and still does continue to work.
So now onto this very simple technique. What do you need to do? Sit down/lie down, whatever is more comfortable for you. Take a few breaths and relax for a moment, open eyes of not. Just take a few minutes and relax.
Now close your eyes and just notice the darkness before your eyes. You are now a "Observer". What does it look like? Is it completely dark? Is it grainy or grey? Likely if you are doing this in a lit room or near a window, you will have some kind of light, although dim, still being seen through your closed eyes. If you wish it dark, use a "Blindfold" of some kind. I sleep every night with a Sleep Mask on because I want the darkness black as it can be.
So, now you are just noticing the darkness there. What do you hear? What do you feel? Mentally note this and still just observe. Now, look up at the left hand corner of the darkness. After a few seconds there, switch over to the right side corner, then go down to the lower left and lastly the right. At this point your eyes are chasing these locations. That's okay. That will change in time. Repeat this for a few minutes. Don't strain your eyes. Just look over in those direction. After a few cycles of this, return your focus back to the center of your screen and just look at the darkness there. What does it look like" Can you describe it? What do you hear? What do you feel? Be aware of all those things. Mentally note them and move on.
We are now still focusing directly straight in front of us. Now without moving your physical eyes to look, I want you to be aware of your upper left, upper right, lower left and lower right corners of your visual screen. Don't look at them. It's time to just be aware. The physical eyes aren't needed for that. After a few cycles, return your focus back to the center of your screen. Just be aware of it. What do you see? Has the darkness changed at all? Is it still the same flat dark screen or is there now a sense of depth? What do you hear? What do you feel? Do this for a few cycles and either abort for the day or you can move onto the next step. The next step involves adding a sense of motion to the exercise. But if you are new, you already have seen enough for now. Baby steps!
For those that want to move on, we are now just being aware of the darkness in front of us. See it as a dark cave or hallway. Now we want to very slowly put a mental intent to move forward into the darkness. I do want to say that there is a difference between you moving into it and it moving towards you. When you move into it you still have a sense of control. When it moves towards you, it can get very intense quite quickly. I wouldn't suggest that for those of you that are new to this practice.
So now we have engaged a mental focus of the movement forward. Once again, the mental noting. What do you see? What do you hear? What do you feel? Are you sensing the etheric tactile feeling of moving forward? Be aware of any visuals that appear here. Your only intent right now is to mentally move forward into the depth before your closed eyes. At this point you may experience a visual that you didn't intend of creating. People that are new to this practice will likely chase that first visual with their physical eyes. That's okay though, no harm no foul. It takes awhile to learn enough control over your mind while practicing Astral Projection.
Now go adventure. You have a choice, you can engage your focus/lock onto the first visual that appears. That experience will likely be short lived though. I mentally note it and observe it with a air of curiosity, but then I move on. Sometimes though the visual is incredibly detailed right away and I can join the scene at hand.
That's it. That's all it takes. Do this often. Get used to the many depths and layers of darkness or light sometimes. It doesn't always have to be dark. Many times it's a swirling vortex/tunnel of color. Make it a welcome part of your own "Ritual"! :-)
Now to the section of my Mantra and why it was chosen for me. It was prefect fit for my mindset as well. Those of you that know me here know that MJ and I have been Merchants at Renaissance Faires for years now. Our "claim to fame" there comes from the beautiful Dragon Sculptures that MJ, my beloved, has been creating for years now. We call them Elemental Dragons and I have a special Scroll that accompanies each Dragon. That's why the Mantra I use is so powerful. It has been used for many people for years now. Many people use it in the intent of "Healing". I use it in the same way as well. For healing those that will "accept" it. I have found that many people don't or won't accept it. That somehow they are being blocked on some level, even though in their physical mindset they are fighting tooth and nail to survive.
So here it is. It is based on the Elements and Sprit within as well. What so special about the Elements, Air, Earth, Fire and Water. Well, they are our "lifeforce" here in this reality. Everything revolves around them.
The Mantra uses the syllables "RA, MA, DA, SA, SA, SAY, SOH, HUNG".
You can listen to being sung beautifully at this link here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OGjZST8aRc&feature=emb_logo
I use a accompanying visual to go with each individual syllable. For RA, I see a flame, some kind of fire or the Sun. MA, has to do with some kind of flowing water visual. DA, represents the Earth. Trees, flowers, land etc. For SA SA SAY and SOH, I see a sky. It can be blue sky, cloudy sky, even a dark sky at night. For HUNG, I feel a burst of energy flowing outwards from my being, dispersing my Healing intent to those that need it. Many times the visuals will just appear as "mental associations" of each symbol's meaning. I just observe as they do.
I mentally repeat this Mantra 3 times. By the time I am finished this Mantra I am already experiencing a change in the depth of the darkness behind my closed eyes. Because of the brief visuals that accompany each syllable, i have already lost all of my focus on my physical body. Wish is what we want and strive for. That's when the shift is free to occur. Lastly, when I am finished my Mantra, I go back to another term that is used in Magick and that is "With harm to none and only Peace and Harmony in the Multi-Verse, so mote it be, so it is done". I then move onto my next intended or chosen destination/focus for that session.
Love the link, beautiful voice for beautiful images.
Just want to back up what you are saying here. I do use eye magic, I reckon we can call it that. It works. And would like to re-iterate your mild warning about moving into the visual or bringing it to you. Definitely if you are new move into your visual as bringing it to yourself can result in some pretty intense episodes.
Quote from: Nameless on January 20, 2021, 23:32:05
Love the link, beautiful voice for beautiful images.
She does have that "Angel-like" quality to her. I used to listen to that before I did my Phase session. Now I have it memorized! :-)
QuoteJust want to back up what you are saying here. I do use eye magic, I reckon we can call it that. It works. And would like to re-iterate your mild warning about moving into the visual or bringing it to you. Definitely if you are new move into your visual as bringing it to yourself can result in some pretty intense episodes.
Eye magic, interesting name for it. It fits though! 8-)
Once you are locked onto the new scene, it can get quite intense. I have had many very unique adventures. One time, I was moving quickly into the cave. Ahead of me I could see a fork in the path. But instead of going either left or right, I kept going straight through the rocks in the middle. That was during a lesson where I was being taught that i no longer had "constraints". Another time I moving through the cave like tunnel and it filled up with water, I spent the rest of that experience in a underwater adventure.
For those of you that have a hard time initiating the forward moving mental focus, i have a few tips. First off, "remember" what it's like when you are on a Rollercoaster ride or even driving itself. Don't visualize it, "remember" it. Why I say remember it is because memory is related to the Mind's eye. Believe it or not, your memory is ever lasting. You just need to learn how to access it all. You can go back many lives if that's your intent to.
Second, you can also use a "pace car" if needed. Meaning, instead of being inside of the Rollercoaster car, you are watching it from a close proximity behind it. You still will experience the motion, just not as intense.
Third tip. Start slow. Even when you are first targeting a direction, top left corner, etc., during the awareness portion of the initial process. This isn't a race. No one is "grading" you. This entire exercise is to teach you how to learn to move your awareness and then to hold it focused on one scenario to see it through. It is also to make you aware period of the state of mind/mental frequency that you now find yourself in.
It has been quite a while since I updated this thread. Not that I haven't wanted to. But for some reason the timing didn't quite seem right. I have maintained my daily soak Phase almost every single day. I missed a couple of them due to life happening.
Lately, well, for about the past year, many of the Radio show interviews and interesting topics around have cycled around the talk of "consciousness". Even in the current UFO vernacular, where "They" come from is beginning to shift to more of a "portal/consciousness travelling" talk. In June, the Gov't is supposed to be releasing some kind of report on what the Gov't really knows about ET's. Don't get your hopes up, I won't. I know there are a a lot of things they won't reveal. But it seems like some in the Gov't believe that these Beings seem to be crossing dimensions to get here. Well, I have news for you, two can play at that game. We can do that too. We just have to "remember" how to do it again. That's where all the techniques on Astral Projection/Lucid Dreaming/OBEs/Phasing/Remote Viewing, whatever your fancy is, all those techniques have the same goal and come into play. That goal is being to achieve some form of non local state of consciousness. We just need to learn to hone down and target particular areas, portals, dimensions and or locations. Not once though. It's not like having a very brief experience and then it's gone forever. We need to learn how to make it more of a stable environment to us. To find some kind of "anchor" that gives us "repeatability".
I never did realize that their were other sources and factions that were indeed interested in this "repeatability" concept until recently when a good friend that is very knowledgeable in this field of study confirmed it for me. I had just seen after countless Phase soak sessions of my own and how many Doorways that i have opened, that it was really difficult to find those Doorways again. It seemed every Phase session led to some new experience instead of learning more about the previous experience from the day before. Even places like my "Happy Place" that I had frequented so many times for years now has become unattainable. New experiences have taken over and filled that void. The old ways seem to have served their purpose and now a new environment or "layer" seems to have taken over. This layer seems to be so much deeper. It feels like it actually leading to somewhere, something that I have never experienced as of yet.
I use the work "layer" above for the people that are still in the mindset that all of this is in the head or the brain. Even if you don't subscribe to the Astral idea, doing things like my Doorway technique and many other techniques will lead you to what you could only describe as layer of your self. Kind of like you are moving in towards your own personal "psyche".
Lately I have been studying up on Archaeoaccoustics. From Wiki:
"Archaeoacoustics is the use of acoustical study as a methodological approach within the field of archaeology. Archaeoacoustics examines the acoustics of archaeological sites and artifacts. It is an interdisciplinary field that includes archaeology, ethnomusicology, acoustics and digital modelling, and is part of the wider field of music archaeology, with a particular interest in prehistoric music."
it all makes perfect sense to me. The fact that they built their "Temples" to resonate at certain Frequencies shows just how advanced our Ancient Ancestors really were. They knew the benefits of frequency and sound. Recently I heard a interview with a Ancient Egypt Historian named David Elkington that was fascinating. They have been experimenting with sound and the sacred sites like the Pyramid at Giza. In their experiment they took a device/speaker into the Pyramid, then they set a Membrane up so they could watch it's interaction with certain frequencies of sound. They used a Membrane instead of using water crystals, like Dr. Emoto did in his own experiments with sound a vibration of water. So, they put the Membrane on top of the speaker and started the Schuman frequency. To their amazement, the sand design on the Membrane began to change into the appearance of Hieroglyphics. They did that same experiment at a known Archaeoaccoustic site there and now the sand design changed to the appearance of a Celtic symbol. For some reason, the designs seemed to be some how "linked" to that area. Irish/Celtic, Egypt/Hieroglyphics. You have to hear him describe it for himself. I heard the initial interview on Coast to Coast AM. The problem is their youtube channel won't play new videos interviews. You normally have to wait about 3 months until it comes on there. The Coast site makes you pay for repeats too. But, I did find a video interview that David was on and just happened to be by the same host from Coast to Coast Am. It was on his own show though. But it almost the same as the Coast AM version. So, for those that wish to hear it, enjoy! :-)
http://conspiracy-unlimited.libsyn.com/558-the-ancient-language-of-sacred-sound
Why did I tell you all of that stuff? I told you it because I wanted to show you that "consciousness" has become an "acceptable" hot topic. In the coming months, it will even become hotter and get more people interested and we know the more people that notice it, the more people will begin searching for conversations and even ways to achieve a non local state of consciousness for themselves. Hopefully that will lead to their own "sneak peek" and we will see where it goes from there. But it will also enlist a whole gambit of serious practitioners.
The most important thing I see in Phasing is that you must learn to disassociate your focus from your physical being. Throughout my thread here, I have shared a number of ways to that. Lately though, I have been working in my own experiences in "targeting " areas for "repeatability". In other words, creating a mental "anchor" that seems to bring me back again. In this field of practice, we hear often abut the Focus levels, the other dimensions, the "layers", the levels, as described by Kurt Leland. Each one seems to a semblance to the other. That most likely has to deal with perception. Robert Monroe was the Focus levels. Frank Kepple then cut those levels down to 4 primary levels. Kurt Leland has 7 levels. The Buddhists have their own levels too. Each one of these people/cultures sees it their own way, but when push comes to shove, it's all the same.
The thing is, each time you have people accessing these areas, another "energy signature" gets left there. My Mantra that I use during my Phase soak is ancient. Many of the Mantras used today are ancient. They all have energy signatures. So many people have used the same ones that the words take on a energy of sorts. How do I know my Mantra is doing anything? I know because it makes me feel good inside when I use it. It makes me happy. That in itself shows it's worth! :-) The same goes with the Monroe Gateway tapes and the programs the Monroe Institute uses. Every time someone use one of Robert's "Walkthroughs", the energy signature of that target becomes enhanced even more.
A few days ago, during a Phase soak session of my own, I came across a lit Doorway and entered it. I had no intent other then going through the door to see what was on the other side. There I saw a bridge in the distance. This bridge seemed to be made of cobblestone and for some reason, during this portion of the experience I had to be somewhat "physical" to advance over it. Normally I will experience the "Otherwhere", as Kurt calls it, from a simple point of consciousness, devoid of any physical attributes. That removes any limitations. Learning how to do that has become very valuable in my explorations in the NPRs.
I crossed the bridge, feeling the bridge under my feet as I was walking over it. When I came to the end of the bridge I could see a park. There was a slide, a swing set, little sand box area, beautifully landscaped and on the outer limits was a path. It was like a black tar path. Along the side of the path was park benches. I was thinking, "this seems familiar". But at this moment, I wanted to learn more about it. So, I began walking along the path. But what was weird was no matter how far I got down the path, when I looked back at the park, it was exactly the same as it was when I first saw it. The slide, the swings, the sand box, all in the same place, even though I had walked down the path. So, I decided to walk further. Once again, I turned back and saw the exact same park scene as before. This perplexed me. I then thought I would challenge this and the the thought of flying above it became a thought = action almost immediately. I looked down and once again saw the same park scene, even from the air. I began getting dizzy then and had to abort the session all together.
For the last I have wanted to update this thread but like I said it just didn't seem like the right time. For the past week in many of my Phase soak sessions, other than the one above, I have been working in the NPR in more of mental zone. That's the void area that is perfectly quiet and all you can hear are your thoughts. It's the area that you can work on Creativity, Spirituality and also contemplate things. My sessions seemed to be more on helping me help you with the teaching moments I receive. Once again, it was on techniques to make this practice easier for you to achieve. Still, I can't do it for you though.
When you close your eyes, what do you see? Darkness yes. Sometimes a imprint of the last thing your focus was on. This could be a computer screen, television, all kinds of things. These imprints are very brief. You can prolong them if you wish to though. Still with your eyes closed, you in a few moments, you may see a brief flash of light. This is cause by the Neurons in the brain still firing signals. 3-5 minutes eyes still closed, you are either asleep, lol, or starting to see very faint shapes in the darkness in front of you. You may start feeling a slight body vibration as well. You are becoming more in tune with your body and it's functions now. You have closed down your visual sense and now it's almost all tactile. If you had used a disassociation technique beforehand, you would be perfectly primed to go further. But that tactile hold seems to be thinking otherwise and can now start fighting back for it's control. This may come in the form of itch or pang. There's all kinds of ways for the body to fight back.
As your focus stays on the darkness a brief image may present itself. These are normally very faint and are there and gone in a flash. If you wanted to, you could keep your focus totally on that flash and see where tit leads to. But at this moment, it's better to just let it go and await the next one or the next occurrence. This next occurrence may come in the form of a image that seems to present itself a bit clearer. Demand "Clarity now" and see where that goes. What happened? Did it disappear? or did you lock on and hone right in on it? If you did lock on, see where it leads you. Don't go back to the starting point until it fades away again. One thing you will notice though is that if it did fade away again, when you go back to noticing the darkness, now a new depth seems to be felt. It's like you are solely in the middle of the darkness. You can feel all around as well.
This is when It is time to begin experimenting. Try rolling a ball in front of you and follow it into the darkness there. Don't look for the ball, it's already in your hands. The ball can be a metaphor. You can see it as moving your focus inside of you or to another level of self. You are crossing the veil Create a intent and be off or you could start targeting Doorways.
Back in 2012, under the name of Lionheart I created this thread here. The thread started after a Phase session I had back then and taught me quite a bit about navigating the NPRs that I found myself in.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/anchored_in_the_astral-t37323.0.html
The "anchor" didn't have to be a physical thing. It could be seen as "metaphorical" too. It could be a mental anchor, a strong intent. Nonetheless, it's a anchor that we can learn to use to access and hone in on certain "Doorways" and portals. Many of my own Phase soak experiences lead to hallways. These hallways are filled with Doorways. For awhile, I was actually targeting, setting my anchor, on certain Doorways. I numbered them based on possible energy signatures that may have been left there. I used titles like Focus 27 or any of the other Focus areas. I used simple things like "Beach". I did all kinds of things. I wanted to keep it all like "KISS", keep it simple stupid". All I did was target the door. What I found inside those Doors wasn't exactly what the door was supposed to signify. I allowed what was going to happen to happen. I didn't have expectations, just total curiosity. The deeper I got into this Doorway focus, the more I learned that this formula works and can be accessed by others. The only problem was, as I soon learned, other people seemed uninterested in joining this Journey. I have created other threads here that were basically nudges in this general direction, yet they even failed.
So, if you are seriously interested in taking this further or have a desire to learn more about it, I will answer what I can to help you. Once in awhile, it's good to see someone else show the initiative to further this discussion. I think I have gone as far as I can here in this thread. All the techniques to get you there are here n this thread and many of the Stickies found here on the Astral Pulse Forums. The "Doorways" are ready to be opened! :-)
Thank You! :-)
hey Lumaza, thank you for bringing this thread to my attention and all your detailed effort!
i am excited for the upcoming months, a collective probing consciousness! :-)
Lumaza, thank you very much for your endeavour, for breaking down the process of phasing for us, presenting it as simply as humanly possible! :)
Thank you for all this wonderful information, Lumaza! The idea of an anchor/repeatable experience is pretty fundamental in shamanism, and I've been struggling to get any consistency in my AP experiences and what (or, who!) I encounter there. This is a timely reminder for me on things I have so much work to do on!
Quote from: Lumaza on May 13, 2021, 18:18:07
The old ways seem to have served their purpose and now a new environment or "layer" seems to have taken over. This layer seems to be so much deeper. It feels like it actually leading to somewhere, something that I have never experienced as of yet.
I use the work "layer" above for the people that are still in the mindset that all of this is in the head or the brain. Even if you don't subscribe to the Astral idea, doing things like my Doorway technique and many other techniques will lead you to what you could only describe as layer of your self. Kind of like you are moving in towards your own personal "psyche".
I believe that even with our physical vehicle imposed limitations, it is possible with practice and intent to make the keyhole through which we currently see the world a little bigger. The door will never be fully open until we are bound to a physical vehicle, and the results of our practices are evident that our physical characters with their chosen personalities strongly influence the experiences. And that's why detachment form the physical reality during sessions, like you mentioned, Lu, is essential for success. The layers to me represent all aspects of the spirit that exist simultaneously in endless layers of the multiverse. We are not separate from them, but while boxed in walls of matter we have the illusion that we are separate. The sum of all existing layers of ourselves in the multiverse = one's spirit. We only perceive one tiny speck of our true selves. And that's why during NP experiences we are taken all over to take a look at different aspects of our spirit. From our point of view we want to have full control and navigate freely and receive what we want, but the complexity of our existence is so vast that it is truly incomprehensible. There are endless possibilities and probabilities and endless lessons. Repetition may be hard to achieve the way we envision it but definitely not impossible. All we can do is keep practicing and testing out different techniques. In any case, to me this is a truly enjoyable research. The only repetition I have experiences so far during APs is reliving my childhood, but a lot more exciting knowing how I got there, and with full awareness of timelessness. The very realization that there is truly timelessness in the multiverse and you can focus on something that holds extreme happiness over and over and over with no time limit is truly exhilarating. It just cant be described with words, because you realize that these happy moments exist forever and you can experience them forever if you want to and they are never lost. Because here is the physical we have a happy moment but in the back of our mind we fear that it will end eventually, which it does. However, many people are not aware that this is NEVER lost from a multiverse perspective. However, one needs to be free of the physicals boundaries to experience the timelessness of the happy moments. And even now, being in physical form, but thinking abut these happy APs, I KNOW that everything exists and it hasn't gone anywhere. I can focus whenever I want and stay as long as I want to. That KNOWING gives me great comfort going about my life and helps me live in the moment, to not be sad when things change and we seem to loose something or someone precious, or even never achieving what we desire here. Even if we don't achieve something in this probable life, we have achieved it in another, so basically we have everything if we look at the sum of all layers. And we can focus and live through it in the NP. Or even draw positive energy just by mentally connecting to the self of ours that has achieved it in some probable reality. I don't know if that makes sense, but this is how I perceive my multi self.
A really insightful reply LB! What makes Lu's thread such a treasure for people to continually learn from, is also some of the comments it generates. I wonder that he has more to offer and continue taking this line of thought into ongoing and expanding areas of NP exploration...gee, I wonder...Lol.
Before I continue down this path, I wish to use this post to respond to all of the replies that i received since my last post.
Thank You Tides, Nofarewell and Grumpy for your kind words.
Lightbeam, you got pretty deep in your reply, but that's what i wanted to hear. I want to open up conversations on those "layers". But first I wanted to help people get to the same page that we are currently on. That means going back to where it all started.
Those "happy moments" you speak of make you come back for more. Many people that have had NDE's or experienced other non local states of consciousness return back with those "happy moments" and it will normally have a profound effect on them. In the most positive ways though. They don't fear death anymore and because of that they can "live". Your statement "That KNOWING gives me great comfort going about my life and helps me live in the moment, to not be sad when things change and we seem to loose something or someone precious, or even never achieving what we desire here." shows that that is true. Your mindset seems to be altered.
EV, you said "A really insightful reply LB! What makes Lu's thread such a treasure for people to continually learn from, is also some of the comments it generates. " I agree 100% with both points there. Lightbeam's reply was very insightful and I always enjoy the fantastic comments by our fellow Members that are generated not only in this thread, but on the Astral Pulse Forums in general.
i was going to add a whole new lengthy post here last night. But then I logged in and saw all these great replies, plus I talked to a very good friend that really made me ponder things again. So, I shall make that post tonight. Just as you are saying "gee, I wonder, lol". Well you wondered right. I keep saying I didn't want to write a book. I really don't like typing, lol. But when I finally gave in and updated my post above, some kind of "flood gates" of info/downloads began pouring in to me. I will share that info later in my post tonight.
Thank you for all of your replies! :-)
Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the water, lol! For those of you that don't understand my meaning there, I call my Phase sessions, "Phase soak sessions" because when I do them, I cram my body into my bathtub while quickly releasing my focus over my physical being.
I thought I was done posting in this thread for awhile, but the NP teachers seem to have a way to bring you back.
A few days back, I got into my tub, did my healing Mantra ritual and began just enjoying "being". But that didn't last for long. A ghostly image of apple appeared before my closed eyes. As fast as it appeared, it disappeared again, but then came back again even more vivid. Now I could see a colored, in this case red, outline of the apple. Once again it disappeared, then came back even stronger again. This really ramped my curiosity. Then the telepathic thought/question entered my mind, "did you see the bruise"? I thought, wow, where did that come from, but soon the apple revealed itself again and yes, there was a bruise on it. Now I could see though that a background was becoming evident. This appearing and disappearing went on for a while until I was in a full blown scenario. I then heard another telepathic thought that said, "this here is what you need to teach". "You need to help people understand more" and that much of what we teach seems to be taken for granted, in the sense that there is a expectation that everyone is on the same page. Which we are not.
When the session was done, I wrote a bunch of footnotes down so I wouldn't forget. I also pondered what was said. Lastly I was told just before the session ended that "I was once new to this practice as well". Now I understood the message.
My first OBEs were of the spontaneous Sleep Paralysis nature. I remember having times in my life where I thought I was just having a Dam, yet it seemed so real, as in, right in my physical bedroom. Then I had a 3 day OBEathon that left a impression. Not only on my mind, but a physical one as well. For some reason I had woken the 3rd morning with my right eye swollen almost shut. Then there were the 3 months of inner vibrations. That all led me to this Forum and practice here.
I became a sponge, trying to soak up all the info on the subject that I could. I soon came across a "Candle string" video on youtube and that night, I had my first fully conscious OBE. Even though my physical body was reclining in my chair, my "etheric body" seemed to be up and exploring my home.
After my first experience I kind of forgot what go me my first success. For some reason, I moved right in Phasing. I say for some reason, it must have had something to do with Frank Kepple's fantastic PDF sticky that can be found here on the Pulse. I read the entire thing. I wanted to learn everything I could.
So, I ventured into noticing. I put on a long track Binaural Beat video, reclined in my Recliner and began what is known as "Noticing". I soon found that Noticing was boring, lol. I would sit in my chair for an hour to an hour and half just looking at the darkness there. I always read you are supposed to lose your focus on your physical body as well. Well I soon found that that is way easier to say than it is to do. The more I attempted to leave my physical focus, the more I focused on my physical body, lol. I was constantly in a one step forward two steps back cycle. I never realized that there were so many ways for you to keep physically focused while having your eyes shut. Everything interrupted me. Sometimes it was a itch. Other times a problem with excess saliva and the need to swallow all the time. Then it got to the point where I could even feel my skin and that was a hinderance.
It was hard to stay focused on "unfocusing", lol. I have read watch videos that showed many techniques to acquire a good non local state of consciousness. Not one of them though explained the things that would hinder or completely kill any success you were going to have. They just said, close your eyes and notice the darkness that you see there. Await for things to appear and so on. On the OBE side of things, they the books and videos said to wait until your body is vibrating, then climb out of it. That's fine and dandy for a person that has practiced for while, but for someone new to this, it didn't necessarily go into how to handle the hinderances of this practice.
I then realized it was time to find another way. So, when I sat in my Recliner to do a session, I first kind of memorized my immediate location. Where the walls were. The staircase, the kitchen, etc. I then closed my eyes and began visually reproducing what I had seen. For some reason, I then began pinballing my focus back and forth between my wall, the kitchen, stairs, doorway, basically everything in my vicinity. Then it happened, I was "out". No bells, no whistles, no saliva problem, itching, none of that. I was so busy focusing and pinballing my focus that I didn't even notice the shift was occurring. I say "out" because like many others, I still had a purely "physical body mindset". That soon changed though. That change came after a NP Mentor, in the form of my deceased Brother-in-law Charlie taught me some valuable NP things like depth perception and overall navigation in the NP realms. That soon enabled my ability or should I said led to me learning how to experience the NPR as purely a point of consciousness. That means that I would not experience any limitations at all. That was really useful while speeding in the side of a mountain, bracing for impact and having nothing bad happen. I just kept going through it.
I talk about "priming the pump" quite a bit. You can do it any way you wish to. When you are new, it's better to learn how to project from a similar spot, like the same chair, the same couch, etc. Do not attempt in bed. You sleep in your bed. Your mind knows that when you lie down, it's to go to sleep. That's why we have people here constantly saying, they started to notice and then fell asleep.
Now I am going to say something that you might think is bizarre, but stay with me here. If you are serious in learning how to "consciously shift", not just once to as a joyride, but are serious in "repeatability", like Lightbeam and I talked about above then you need to create a Astral Port" or "mode" of sorts. I am using the word port as it's used in a computer port. A input. You already have a mode to sleep and mode to be awake. We are going to add another to that. What do you do before you go to sleep? People will normally undress, brush their teeth, then close your eyes and go to sleep. How many years have you been doing that? Quite a few. Because of your nightly "ritual", your mind is already preparing for sleep before your head even hit the pillow. Now your "sleep mode" is engaged.
Then you wake up in the morning and what do you do? You get out of bed, use the bathroom, make a coffee, breakfast, etc, things that are showing that you are physically awake. Your 'brain waves" are responding to this too. You are fully in "awake mode".
So, for continued success in this practice, you need to somehow create your Astral mode or port. Something that you choose to do as preparation for your Phase session. Mine is the use of my bathtub and my Mantra. The time of my session plays into it as well. Before I even close my eyes to Phase a mental preparation of sorts has already started the Phasing process in motion. That's why it doesn't take the hour/hour and half that it used to. Now, it can be just a few minutes and I either feel the shift approaching or have already shifted. That mental prep has payed off in spades!
I started this Doorway thread because I wanted people to have something "proactive" to do while they awaited the shift to occur. Through the years that I posted in it, I have added all kinds of tips to it.
My goal in creating this new post here was to go more into the explanation behind the techniques that I use here. I stated earlier in this post how my first success came after a "candle staring" technique" I had used. Throughout this entire Forum I have constantly mentioned that. Very rarely do I hear a response on it though. It is a very good success and why did it work? I will say it in one word "imprint". It left something for me to focus on. Remember how I talked earlier here in this post about sitting for hours "noticing" the darkness before my closed eyes while fighting off every physical distraction my body could muster. Well, while using the imprint of the candle as a focus immediately after I closed my eyes there was no distractions at all. I didn't need to imagine anything either. All I had to was close my eyes and that visual imprint was there. How many times have you got into a good movie at night with the lights off, then closed your eyes afterwards and a "imprint" of the framing of your TV is still there. It works with a computer screen as well. You didn't have to do anything. It was just there. But, it soon faded. That imprint was a great focus mechanism if you would have stayed with it. The only thing is, a imprint like a TV or computer screen can be very transparent. Whereas a candle flame, you see in full color. It's much easier to bring it back again.
I liked the thought of the imprint and that led me to creating things that I could "image/imagine" that I could bring back again and again. First I used a apple and simple geometric shapes. Then I messed around with colors. I noticed that geometric shapes were great. They seemed to create their own "automatic suggestions". In that I mean those shapes all had tons of mental associations attached to them. Soon I found that those simple shapes would morph into something new. As they were morphing, they were taking on "motion" as well. That showed me how valuable the use of a moving target would be. So, I began experimenting with a simple "Yo-Yo' imagery. Soon I changed to throwing Frisbees, shooting hoops" and one that became a real favorite of mine, a "child's toy top". I saw that focus being used in the movie "Inception" and found it a great morphing target.
At first when the focus targets began to morph, it was just a ghostly/outlined image. Next a background began to occur and soon a full blown scenario was there in front of me. It was amazing how quickly it grew. All of this beginning with a simple focus on a focal target of my choice.
You noticed how I haven't mentioned anything about a physical body in the last paragraphs above. That is because at the moment when I am locked in, to me, it is just "being". There is no physical body at that moment in time.
There are countless areas or should I say "layers" that you can experience there. Not all of them are based on a Human like physical focus. You can find yourself in areas of just pure thought and contemplation. You can find yourself in areas of darkness where your thoughts don't feel like yours anymore. That's a hard one to explain. But I know there are people here that understand what I just said.
It took me years to find my "niche". I used techniques from other people until I could finally create something personal. Recently I was talking to a friend and I mentioned that people can visualize, it's just they can't always visualize on demand. I said look at memory. When we remember a brief image normally accompanies said memory. He said, that's not necessarily true. When he remembers something, he senses the emotional feeling more than viewing a image. That's why I said above "find your niche". Take bits and pieces from other techniques and use them to create a personal plan. Experiment. Are you more "visual" or "tactile" focused? Find your strengths and weaknesses here. Everyone perceives things in a their own way. Our minds have their own ways of mentally associating" with things. Take a bird. Close your eyes and visualize a bird. Some people may choose a Eagle, others a Blue Bird, still others a Humming bird, etc.. Each one is a bird, but we chose the first one that came to mind. You see what I mean?
Once you can get into a good NP focus, we can move onto exploring and opening some of the many "doorways" that await us. I chose "Doorway" for the name of this thread because of what Doorways represent. Every time you pass through a doorway there is a new reality/visual waiting on the other side. Example of this. Pass through your bedroom door, you are now in the hallway. The hallway is not the bedroom and looks different. keep gong down the hall, now you walk into the kitchen. You may have had to enter that through a doorway/separation and it too looks different then bedroom or even the hall. Now leave the kitchen and go outside. Once you pass through that door everything has really changed. In a way, every doorway brought you to a new reality. That happens in the NPRs as well.
Okay, that's it for now. I think my fingers are going to fall off, lol! :-D Feel free to ask questions or share your views, even if it's to say "you are Batsht crazy Man! :-)
Good stuff Lumaza!
Ah yes the excess saliva and the need to swallow, that was a big hurdle to overcome in the beginning for me. I guess it's like the 'don't think of a pink elephant' and all you can think about is a pink elephant LOL.
Tried the noticing thing too, but that lead to my eyes moving and focusing every time something would appear, and as you say it gets boring quick.
What works best for me now is "going to sleep" but staying awake. I mean when I go to bed I'm not focusing on looking at the back of the eyelids or focusing on the eyes at all, I'm just somewhere in my head/mind's eye drifting away. So I (try to) recreate that state while keeping a little focus on staying conscious, so far it's the most efficient way I've found and gets me to the hypnagogic imagery the fastest. Still struggling with actually phasing though, but it feels like I'm getting close :-)
You're definitely not Bat$hit crazy!! Appreciate all you've said in this thread.
You're so right that creating a "port" for "astral mode" can be very important and helpful. You're describing making a ritual, so I'd like to share some things I've learned through my shamanism courses, picking a few that I think are relevant.
1) The Container - you start by creating a sacred space that will "contain" the practice, demarcate that here and now we are doing this special thing, i.e., it's "time", and keep you surrounded by good energy. You can do something to bless or clear the room/area if you want, you can incorporate special/sacred objects, you can do an invocation, calling in helping spirits - like Lumaza says, his container is the bath, his mantra, and the time of day. You may want to use crystals, a specific place (like a recliner) you may want to listen to certain music (even just before you start, to signal to you we're in "sacred" mode now!), "wake up" the space and its energies using a rattle, drumming, clapping, etc, create an altar with power objects, etc. Basically, how do you carve out/demarcate THIS special place and THIS special time? Imagine creating that space means surrounding your "area" with good energy on all sides, above and below you - bluish white, or gold, or whatever color works for you. What do you need to do to create that? Any of the above things could do that for you. Objects to represent the elements, the directions, a simple invocation and acknowledgement of your "workspace" -Whatever works for you.
2) Intention - clearly stating the goal or purpose of what you're doing. Can be very general/open-ended or specific.
Afterwards, 3) Grounding - after you come back, it can help to engage in a grounding practice - I remember that time that Lumaza said he got out of the bath too quickly and hadn't really "grounded" yet and got dizzy! This can also include acknowledgment of and commitment to what you've learned/received on your journey/projection, and writing out everything can be a good way to integrate/ground/acknowledge.
4) Dispersing - this is closing the ritual and the space. You dissolve the container you've created that you built at the beginning of the ritual. This may involve thanking your spirit guides, saying goodbye for now, bowing in the 4 directions to express gratitude, and in general dispersing the energies you've called in and created during your process.
The "after effects of images" suggestion is interesting - one way to create that for yourself without starting at a candle (not sure if that's good for the retinas!) is to take a white sheet of computer paper, and then cut a smaller square of black construction paper and glue/tape that in the center. So you have something of high contrast - black on white - or you can do the reverse, white on black! Stare at that for a while and you'll see the reverse image when you close your eyes. That is, if you do black on white, the image you see when you close your eyes will be the opposite: instead of dark on light, it will be light on dark. No bigs, that's just how our brains work, but the high contrast and strong shape are shoe-ins to make this happen. (I see after effects of things all the time without staring at them for long because I just have visual disturbances as part of my chronic illness, so I'm usually trying to *not* see those things! haha LOL)
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 17, 2021, 08:07:49
Good stuff Lumaza!
Ah yes the excess saliva and the need to swallow, that was a big hurdle to overcome in the beginning for me. I guess it's like the 'don't think of a pink elephant' and all you can think about is a pink elephant LOL.
Ah, the Pink Elephant, don't get me started on that, lol! :-D Just kidding! Thanks for the reply! :-)
QuoteTried the noticing thing too, but that lead to my eyes moving and focusing every time something would appear, and as you say it gets boring quick.
At first it's the same as trying not to focus on the Pink Elephant. The more you focus on not moving your eyes, the more they move. This gets better in time too. You start to see that the physical eyes, as we know them, aren't necessary there. You open up to the entire scene, even getting into a 360% view of it all. When that happens if feels like some kind of profound expanse just occurred.
QuoteWhat works best for me now is "going to sleep" but staying awake. I mean when I go to bed I'm not focusing on looking at the back of the eyelids or focusing on the eyes at all, I'm just somewhere in my head/mind's eye drifting away. So I (try to) recreate that state while keeping a little focus on staying conscious, so far it's the most efficient way I've found and gets me to the hypnagogic imagery the fastest. Still struggling with actually phasing though, but it feels like I'm getting close :-)
The problem I had with this is I stayed awake many nights because every time I closed my eyes, even to go to sleep, noticing would kick in whether I liked it or not. I couldn't turn it off. Sometimes you just want to go to sleep like normal. I had to learn to rewire that. Once I had made my own Astral port or mode that didn't happen again.
It sounds like it works for you though, so you have found your "niche"! :-) Now is the time to "perfect" it, as much as you can that is. But don't be surprised if you find that you are forced to find a new way. For some reason that seems to be part of the teachings. Just when you get comfortable with a certain technique you find yourself blocked and have to find a way around that block, that's if you you want to continue down this path.
Quote from: GrumpyRabbit on May 17, 2021, 12:04:09
You're definitely not Bat$hit crazy!! Appreciate all you've said in this thread.
You're so right that creating a "port" for "astral mode" can be very important and helpful. You're describing making a ritual, so I'd like to share some things I've learned through my shamanism courses, picking a few that I think are relevant.
1) The Container - you start by creating a sacred space that will "contain" the practice, demarcate that here and now we are doing this special thing, i.e., it's "time", and keep you surrounded by good energy. You can do something to bless or clear the room/area if you want, you can incorporate special/sacred objects, you can do an invocation, calling in helping spirits - like Lumaza says, his container is the bath, his mantra, and the time of day. You may want to use crystals, a specific place (like a recliner) you may want to listen to certain music (even just before you start, to signal to you we're in "sacred" mode now!), "wake up" the space and its energies using a rattle, drumming, clapping, etc, create an altar with power objects, etc. Basically, how do you carve out/demarcate THIS special place and THIS special time? Imagine creating that space means surrounding your "area" with good energy on all sides, above and below you - bluish white, or gold, or whatever color works for you. What do you need to do to create that? Any of the above things could do that for you. Objects to represent the elements, the directions, a simple invocation and acknowledgement of your "workspace" -Whatever works for you.
2) Intention - clearly stating the goal or purpose of what you're doing. Can be very general/open-ended or specific.
Afterwards, 3) Grounding - after you come back, it can help to engage in a grounding practice - I remember that time that Lumaza said he got out of the bath too quickly and hadn't really "grounded" yet and got dizzy! This can also include acknowledgment of and commitment to what you've learned/received on your journey/projection, and writing out everything can be a good way to integrate/ground/acknowledge.
4) Dispersing - this is closing the ritual and the space. You dissolve the container you've created that you built at the beginning of the ritual. This may involve thanking your spirit guides, saying goodbye for now, bowing in the 4 directions to express gratitude, and in general dispersing the energies you've called in and created during your process.
The "after effects of images" suggestion is interesting - one way to create that for yourself without starting at a candle (not sure if that's good for the retinas!) is to take a white sheet of computer paper, and then cut a smaller square of black construction paper and glue/tape that in the center. So you have something of high contrast - black on white - or you can do the reverse, white on black! Stare at that for a while and you'll see the reverse image when you close your eyes. That is, if you do black on white, the image you see when you close your eyes will be the opposite: instead of dark on light, it will be light on dark. No bigs, that's just how our brains work, but the high contrast and strong shape are shoe-ins to make this happen. (I see after effects of things all the time without staring at them for long because I just have visual disturbances as part of my chronic illness, so I'm usually trying to *not* see those things! haha LOL)
Thank you for the share Grumpy. You have saved me from some typing, lol! I like your idea of the "Container". Robert Monroe used a box that you used to store all your pressing thoughts in so you would be "clear" to proceed. He called it a "Conversion Box".
Setting a intent is very important. Even mentally stating to be shown what you need to see and taught what you need to learn, then observing, is a intent.
Grounding definitely is important as well. It takes you awhile to get into a good NP state of being. You should spend some time walking yourself back as well. There is definitely a brain wave altering going on here. When we Dream and are in REM sleep there is a release of DMT from the Pineal Gland. I have a very strong feeling that during Phasing, there is a release of DMT as well.
Earlier in my own work, I did look into this "imprint/after effect" thing and began playing around with mental imagery mixing geometric shapes with colors. Example: A red square with a yellow triangle in it. After a while, I could change those mental images on the go or just observe as they morphed into whatever they wished to next. That's where "Mandalas" can be useful. They seem to have a habit of "rotating" or "spiraling" when I focus on them.
I had frequented a few websites that spoke of all these kind of "mind tricks". I found there is a number of focus targets that actually have residual effects. Like for instance, slowly mentally running through the Alphabet and seeing how each letter had it's own mental association to go with it. That technique really helped when I was having problems visualizing. I would kind of "trick" the visual into appearing.
One of the things I continue to harp on is the importance I have found in introducing "motion" into your focus target. That is really what gets the ball rolling, literally and metaphorically!
One last thing. When I close my eyes and see/notice that darkness, I always view it as a dark hallway or cave like structure and what do you do when you come to the entrance to a cave or hallway? You proceed forward into it. That's another one of the many "tricks" that you can use to Phase. Like I always say, "change your mindset, changes your reality! :-)
This is great stuff you got here Lu and so happy to see others chipping in which only takes it up a notch. :-)
I love the thought of creating a port (apport/a portal) <-- see how all those words come together?
Words are magic in and of themselves. I don't know if this is taught in other traditions but it is taught in the Holy Bible.
I agree heavily that it is important (very important) to create a ritual. I see this is done in all the traditional schools of thought again including the Bible. Just as you said Lu with brushing your teeth or hair or whatever in prep for going to bed to sleep. The ritual sets you up for success.
On the visuals I have found the very best way (for me at least) is to find out what my eyes want to do on their own and go with that. I find my eyes (eyeballs that is) naturally tend to drift downwards and slightly to the left as my body relaxes. So once my eyes have settled into their own most natural relaxed state I let them stay there. I know some say look upward toward the third eye, that actually makes my eyes hurt a great deal so then not only am I trying to focus I'm also trying to ignore the discomfort so I find it best to go with whatever positioning my eyes choose.
As far as all those bodily distractions I find it best to just do what I need to do and with as little fuss as possible. If I itch I scratch, if I sneeze I wipe, bathroom no problem, I just get up and go without creating more disturbance than necessary. It's easier doing this as it allows you to fall right back into where you need to be if you aren't constantly fighting your own body.
Intent, well someone is always listening and whether you know it or not it is possible that you have not given the correct permissions to the right beings for them to just reach into your brain and know your thoughts. So... stating your intent out loud as well with your inner voice is just good strategy.
But first and foremost always always always let it be known that you will only accept guidance from your highest intuition (God/guides/masters - whoever) with your best interest at heart. The last thing you want is to be led around the mulberry bush by a jokester or someone who absolutely cannot do anything for you. In short be careful WHO you give authority to. (That's a discussion for a different thread).
Quote from: Nameless on May 17, 2021, 22:35:08
On the visuals I have found the very best way (for me at least) is to find out what my eyes want to do on their own and go with that. I find my eyes (eyeballs that is) naturally tend to drift downwards and slightly to the left as my body relaxes. So once my eyes have settled into their own most natural relaxed state I let them stay there. I know some say look upward toward the third eye, that actually makes my eyes hurt a great deal so then not only am I trying to focus I'm also trying to ignore the discomfort so I find it best to go with whatever positioning my eyes choose.
A few days ago, while in a Phase soak session, a few minutes after I did my Healing Mantra and began to just "notice", I felt my physical eyes actually sink down. I have not experienced that sensation so strongly in the past. I was very apparent this time. It was like they just fell down and "clunked". That's how "heavy" it felt.
QuoteAs far as all those bodily distractions I find it best to just do what I need to do and with as little fuss as possible. If I itch I scratch, if I sneeze I wipe, bathroom no problem, I just get up and go without creating more disturbance than necessary. It's easier doing this as it allows you to fall right back into where you need to be if you aren't constantly fighting your own body.
Ditto. Nowadays, I fix whatever issue it is and stay the course! It's really a miniscule interruption and if you don't think it will hinder your progress, it won't! :-)
QuoteBut first and foremost always always always let it be known that you will only accept guidance from your highest intuition (God/guides/masters - whoever) with your best interest at heart. The last thing you want is to be led around the mulberry bush by a jokester or someone who absolutely cannot do anything for you. In short be careful WHO you give authority to. (That's a discussion for a different thread).
I trust quite a bit. But, if the info doesn't "feel" right, I don't listen to it. I need to know that even a seemingly negative action, will still have positive results. Example of this" Directing "tough Love" when you know it's for the better good of the person, group and or situation involved. Sometimes you have to step in. This is very apparent in "Retrievals". You do what is necessary to help, but you can not make the decision for the Soul at hand.
Today's Phase soak session seemed to once again focus on the "physical eyes" and their direction
The session began the same with me mentally stating "By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body". I use the exact opener every single night when I go to sleep. At bedtime though, I also mentally affirm that I am consciously aware in my "sleep", knowing I am "asleep". I used to use the word Dream. I still use that here on this Forum, but I am not convinced that all that we experience in our nocturnal sleep is all just a Dream or should I say "in the head". I believe, as I have been shown, that the beginning stages are in the head. As you get deeper though, that seems to change.
Next, I went into my mental stated Healing Mantra, then just began noticing. First I noticed I noticed that I was "looking". I could feel my physical eyes still moving around. I then went into the mental zone and began thinking about the eyes a bit further. Next thing I knew, I wasn't looking anymore. Now I was experiencing the "expanse". That seems to be the best way to describe it. It seems like your vision has not only taken on a new depth, but also a expanse as well. At that point there is no longer to "look" any further. Right now, there are no physical eyes.
Then the NP tutoring began. A few people have asked me, "when I get the "tutoring", is it spoken? How does it come through? What I see, is that it begins with "observing". I would just be observing the expansive darkness and then thoughts not created by me would begin to appear. I say not created by me because at the time, the only thing I am focused on is observing. At that time, I can ask mentally questions and many times the questions begin to be answered before I can fully get them out. I guess the only way to explain it is saying that they are "Telepathic in nature".
So, back to the tutoring session, I am shown that what I said earlier in this thread about "memory" having it's own location was true and that if someone wants to experience the expanse, that they can do this simple exercise.
Close your eyes, Do what ever opening ritual that you do, whether that be a brief progressive relaxation exercise or whatever you do to "prime your pump" for a few minutes to unwind. Now just be aware of the darkness before your closed eyes. Are you looking and chasing it? At this point you normally would be.
Now I want to put all of your focus into thinking back to what you did last Monday. Start with when you woke up in the morning and what you did during the day. At least what you can remember. Use whatever method of remembering is normal to you. You can remember the visual, you can remember the emotion, even the tactile feel of it. Normally when i remember back I will see a visual representation of the experience. So much so that I may see me in 3rd person view there as well. Once you have worked through Monday, go to Tuesday and continue all the way to Friday. Do not take any breaks between the days or events. Do not put your focus back on your physical body. Stay the course here.
As soon as you hit Friday, slowly become aware again of the darkness before your eyes. Has it changed? Is there depth or expanse to it? If there is, you are well on your way to achieving a shift in consciousness while fully aware of it. You may feel some kind of "system overload" approaching. I used to call it the "exploding head syndrome". It is extremely intense, but very brief. Once you get through that, you are ready to move down the hall or Cave in front of you and open some Doorways,. They are everywhere upon that path. I experience that weird system overload often in my Phase sessions. It makes me think that I crossed some kind of "veil" or "border point". That's at least the way I personally perceive it. With you, it may be something completely different. But you will "know" when it happens.
When I was shown this technique today, as I finished up on the focus of Friday, I felt that my physical eyes were turned upwards and to the right. I take it that that is what happens when we utilize the memory compartment of our brain. I was then aware as they slowly fell until they were looking or had dropped downwards and that's when all that was left was a expanded field of semi-darkness right in front of me. There seemed to be a glowing wall of white ahead There is way to tell if you are "there". Once you become aware of this expanded field of darkness or as I see many times, not so dark area, you can slowly shift your awareness to the left/right/front/back/up or down. Find what direction seems to respond to what are doing and go explore it.
Do this for a few days and report back with your findings. I am sure this will create more questions. Everything I experience in the NPR creates more questions! :?
Lumaza, this is what's yelling at me right now and I am grateful you are persistent with your guidance!
"By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body."
That is beautiful! I hope I can do the same. :-)
"system overload" 👍 there's the phrase I was looking for to describe my visual "white outs" that had me clicking out or "waking up" for months before finally getting past it. Just out of curiosity, do you also experience a series of small "overloads" leading up to the "big one" ?
Quote from: tides2dust on May 20, 2021, 00:52:25
Lumaza, this is what's yelling at me right now and I am grateful you are persistent with your guidance!
"By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body."
That is beautiful! I hope I can do the same. :-)
It's so simple, But it does work. If you are having problems visualizing, use William Buhlman's command of "Clarity now". That works in Phasing as well! That command shows strong intent! :-)
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 20, 2021, 01:37:16
Just out of curiosity, do you also experience a series of small "overloads" leading up to the "big one" ?
While in my Phase soak session that "overload" goes from 0 - 60 in about 10 seconds. The only time it is a series of smaller overloads is if I interrupt the process or have to abort because of the intensity. Then it's like a game of cat and mouse, where I seem to be "teetering" on the borderline.
Just curious Bob, what do you experience after you have that "system overload"? I ask that because you sound like you are ready to learn more about the Doorways that await you there. If that is the case, we can proceed with that conversation here.
Last night I logged in here to the Astral Pulse Forums and went right to the "User's online" section of the Forum to get some good reading material. You will always find some Member or Guest reading some of the many interesting threads of the past here. This Guest was looking at book review of Robert Peterson's. I haven't been to Robert's website for years, so I clicked on the link and it led me to Robert's book reviews of all the many books on OBEs, Astral Projections and Lucid Dreaming he has reviewed through the years. Robert's view has always been that they are all separate entities. That's the way he perceives it and that's fine. Everyone is allowed to have and form their own opinion.
There I came across a new book by a couple of fun loving, like-minded, good natured ladies named Barbara Mango and Lynn Miller. Robert gave their book a 4/5 and had a great write-up review on it. You can find that review at Robert's website here:
https://obeoutlook.blogspot.com/2021/04/convergence.html
After I read the review, I did what I normally do and I googled the book and the names of the Authors. I came across their website, but was looking for video interviews with them, which is what many Authors do these days. Sure enough I came across a recent Podcast they did a few days ago. The quality of the Podcast was not the best and the Host was kind of "awkward" in his attempts at jocularity. But you could see he had a good heart and also good intuition because the two ladies, Barbara and Lynn, really knocked it out of the park. I nodded in agreement so much that today my neck is stiff, lol! :-D Here is a link to that interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av--t-coNG8&t=17s
It seems their book is more targeted at the more skeptical Professionals, like the Medical and Psychiatric communities. It is not based on "application" or "technique". It's not a "how to" book. It's based on research that has been done on the the subjects at hand. They delve into OBEs, Astral Projection, Spontaneous Healing, NDEs, UAPs, formerly known as UFOs and what I thought was fascinating, the talk of the "Anamalously Sensitive Person". The ASPs as they call it are people like us here on the this Forum that share the same traits, per se.
Here is a link to their website as well. I do not know these ladies personally, neither am I getting paid to say anything here. I just thought they deserved the kudos and respect for such a well done job.
https://www.extraordinaryexperiences.org/
Now that I am done with that, it's on to today's Phase session. I did what I do, my daily rituals and primed the pump then moved onto just noticing. I did not use any visuals at all. My sole intent was to "observe" the process at hand. I did not put my focus on my eyes. But I found that just looking into the darkness and noticing actually had me more aware of my eyes then I wanted to be. At this point I seemed to still be "looking". I then felt my eyes drooping lower, but then a blink of light occurred (hypnagogic imagery) and my eyes went back to chasing it again. This happened a few more times, then I aborted the session for a few minutes. After about 5 minutes of just looking at the tiled wall of the bathtub area I close my eyes and restarted the session. This time I used imagery. I began with a simple "Yo-Yo". Just watching it go up and down. Soon I changed to tossing a Frisbee. After about the 3rd toss, I found myself on a beautiful beach loaded with people. The water was that beautiful Aqua color and the beach sand solid white. The people or "Beings" seemed to be of a "cartoon kind of look". They weren't fully cartoon, like Technicolor. They seemed to be somewhere in between. They were having a great time on the beach though. They were playing all kinds of games. I then started being more aware of the my surroundings, like a 360 degree point of view. I did that to ground myself there, since I felt my awareness fading. I stayed with this scenario as long as I could and when I returned back to my physical focus I found myself somewhat "energized" by the entire experience.
What did I learn during this? I learned that I am still not a fan of just "noticing" the darkness itself. I need to fire things up to get things going. While firing things up, the natural shift is occurring. I also noticed more about that eye thing. I had a few times where my physical eyes and my "Mind's eye" seemed to be split. I could sense both of them at the same time. It was very strange and as usual, hard to describe.
Quote from: Lumaza on May 20, 2021, 18:51:55
Just curious Bob, what do you experience after you have that "system overload"? I ask that because you sound like you are ready to learn more about the Doorways that await you there. If that is the case, we can proceed with that conversation here.
So far I've only gotten past the "overload" 2 times. The first time (the one in my journal) lead to a calm silent blackness. The second time I didn't "go" anywhere but saw a golden yellow blob/field floating around in the dark like the wax mixture inside a lava lamp, at times it covered the entire field of view.
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 21, 2021, 22:25:27
So far I've only gotten past the "overload" 2 times. The first time (the one in my journal) lead to a calm silent blackness. The second time I didn't "go" anywhere but saw a golden yellow blob/field floating around in the dark like the wax mixture inside a lava lamp, at times it covered the entire field of view.
To me, both of those seem like invites to explore further. You had a number of options there, a couple of them being, stay where you were and bask in that calm silent darkness or move forward into it and see where that would lead. I mentioned above that I see that darkness as a Cave/Cavern/Hallway that is waiting to be explored. As I slowly move forward into it, I see little blips of light along the "walls". I then have a choice to move back and explore that little blip or continue to move forward and await a full blown scenario to appear. It may seem like this is time consuming, but it really isn't. A full blown scenario can reveal itself at any moment. The trick then is to allow your curiosity to drive you further into, while not totally losing your consciousness and falling asleep. I do that by keeping in the back of my mind what I am doing here. I know that I am Phasing or LDing at the time, but I keep that thought way in the back of my mind. To become too aware of that fact, seems to end the experience then and there. I have purposely aborted a experience because it was getting too deep with a lot of moving parts and I knew that I would likely lose my memory recall of it. So, I stopped so I could return and log what I had seen, learned or experienced. It really is a balancing act of sorts.
One trick I have used to keep that memory is to build a mental compartment of sorts. This is a place that I number and put the events or teachings of the experience in so that I bring that recall back with me and access it after my Phase session. This compartment seems to be just another one of the many Doorways that can be accessed there. Examples of this. While in a experience I halt it for a minute and visualize a door/room with the number, let's say, #78 written on it. While back in the physical and wanting to mentally revive that memory, I close my eyes and access that Doorway. I was taught that little trick in the NPR a few years back.
Thanks for the insides Lu!
Both times was something completely new to me, so got a little too excited and that ended it. But hopefully I'll get to explore it more once I get accustomed to it.
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 23, 2021, 03:20:16
Thanks for the insides Lu!
Both times was something completely new to me, so got a little too excited and that ended it. But hopefully I'll get to explore it more once I get accustomed to it.
Your welcome! :-)
That's a perfectly normal response and will get better in time. It's easy to get too excited. But don't do the Cardinal sin in this practice which is to mentally narrate, especially when things get going good. That will always lead to a quick end to your session then and there. The thought "here we go", I have found is a no no, lol! :-)
Just now I was perusing the "Users Online" section of the Forum and came across this interesting discussion in this thread here. It is pertinent to the discussions and my basis for my Doorway thread here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/imagination_vs_astral_thoughts-t1999.0.html
I really liked the post by Jeff Mash where he shares this quote by Frank Kepple "Basically, there is a fine, THIN line between your imagination and the astral realm". I find this to be oh so true! :-)
For the last while now I have been experiencing lessons on how to slow the process of non local states of consciousness down to almost a crawl.
I have said often in this thread how I will sometimes utilize a focus on 6 directions. Those being left/right, up/down and frontwards/backwards. Today in my Phase soak, I was shown a technique that would convince even the strongest of the skeptics of AP and it was a very simple thing to do. So I shall share that with you here. It doesn't matter whether you consider yourself a "Newbie" or the highest of Experiencers. Both alike will get "something" out of this.
Either do this or don't. Don't give it a "good ole ho-hum try". If you do it, put a honest effort into it. See it through. Be serious about it. Especially if you are a skeptic. Prove it to yourself. We can talk about this stuff here until we are blue in the face. Nothing beats personal experience. Don't question it during it. Question it later. Observe it now. Don't complicate it!
So there is a bit of prep before we start. If you are doing this in the middle of the day, with it being light inside your room, with everyday noise around, then we need to handle that first. The way we do that is we find ways to stop the distractions. Headphones or Earplugs for the sound and some kind of Blindfold for the light. We want to be able to hold our focus with very limited if no interruptions. So handle that first.
Now, we are going to lay down on our back and stretch our arms and legs out "spread Eagle" like. Do not stretch until it hurts. Be comfortable in it.
If you have a blindfold, skip this step here. If not, your eyes should still be open. Look down at your hands and legs. See the position they are in. Why is this important? Because this technique is solely about "Etheric body motion". I want you to know, without a shadow of a doubt, that your physical body is in the exact position it currently is in, which is spread Eagle, laying on your back. When you close your eyes to do this, the 6 pts of direction will be to the right or left of you, the up/down will be over your head and under your feet, the forward and backward, will be the movement/motion of forward or backward. I explained that because while lying on a bed, it's it can get confusing. We want to experience those 6 directions, like we would if we were standing. The problem is, it is very likely that doing this experiment while standing or sitting in a chair could lead to actually falling to the ground. I have done it all 3 ways, so it is possible, but very difficult to do.
Close your eyes and relax for a minute. Take a few deep breaths if that helps. I have a hard time concentrating on my breathing while relaxing. It normally leads me to more of a hyper-ventilating then anything. But that's me. So take a few moments to relax. Just notice the darkness that is right before your closed eyes.
Now I want you to very slowly. put your entire focus on your right hand side of you, almost like you are turning or veering to the right. You may actually feel your nerve impulses spiking to create a actual right turn of the body. Hold your focus there for a few minutes. You don't need to visualize anything. But if a visual accompanies that mental thought, more the better.
After a few minutes, slowly move your focus from your right side to your left. Be aware as your focus moves in a arc like fashion from the right to the left side. There is no race here.
Next, you are going to focus on the two directions up and down. Put your down as low as you can. We want to have the sensation here of a downwards motion. That can be the feeling of shrinking, plummeting, some kind of downward motion. Now hold it there for a few minutes. Then slowly move your focus upwards until you get as high as you can put it. Here we want to feel raising of some kind. It can be stretching, growing, basically any kind of upwards motion will do. Hold it there, then release and we are going to move to front and back.
Put your focus completely on the darkness in front of you. Draw your focus forward into it. You know the feeling. You walk forward and backwards many times a day. Once you feel the motion forward, reverse it and go backwards. I find backwards to lead to some really extraordinary experiences.
One or more of those directions seemed to be easier to attain than the others. You can go back and revisit them if you wish.
After a few times of doing this, start to play around with the directions. Start at the right side and quickly change your focus to you left or start with down and go up or vice versa. Feel the pull. Feel the etheric motions of those directions. Remember, your physical body is spread eagle, totally grounded on the bed. Every motion you are "feeling" is etheric in nature. After awhile you can watch as your awareness moves slowly from right to left. That's a experience in itself.
It took me longer to write all of this, then it does to actually perform it, lol. It may look like a lengthy process, but it really isn't. It will introduce you to the wonderful World of etheric body motion though.
I just completed my daily soak and saw some things that I needed to edit from my post above.
Mainly it comes to the focus of the forward and backwards mental motion. Years ago when I began using this technique of the 6pt directional focus, I was like many of you here. I was still in a 100% physical mindset. That means like you, I was aware of my breathing, aware of any sensation/exit symptom that occurred. I was aware of everything. Too much to tell you the truth. Because of my physical mindset, that played over to the way I experienced the NPR as well. Examples of this, when I moved forward, I still needed to do it step after step. I moved the way we physically do. Then I was taught how to disassociate my physical focus almost immediately and now movement there is just a simple thought or mental command away. Like everything else in this practice, this didn't happen over night. It took a lot of trial and error to do.
The most important part of the directional focus, I feel to be, is the forward and backwards motions. When you peer into that darkness, you can mentally step right into. But if you need, do it slowly. Move your "etheric legs". Watch as they move if that helps you. When utilizing a focus on certain directions, you may have visuals that accompany those directions as well. They will likely be short lived, like blips of visuals, fade in and outs. So don't let that catch you by surprise. These are the "mental associations" to that certain direction that seem to be engrained in us. For some reason, when I focus on my left side and mentally veer that way, I am met with the visual of a ship that is leaning to the left, due to a large wave. When I focus on my right side, I see a Motorbike veering around a corner of a racetrack. So yes, the direction you are focused on may produce a visual as well. Sometimes the visual will be really vivid and you are off. If this happens, stay the course. at this point there is no need to continue focusing on other directions. The "shift" has already occurred.
Now, back to the frontwards and backwards focus. Like I said, you can mentally walk into the darkness there. You can also create a Rollercoaster or Driving simulation. Many times when I do this, a "Pace Car", like you see at a Racing event, seems to appear. It can be a car, a plane, a rocket, motorcycle, even a "Horse". I found the Horse one odd. But for some reason it seems to show up quite a bit. Lately I have been viewing the darkness as a tunnel/hallway or cave. I will then engage the mental motion of moving forward into it or moving backwards away from it. I was shown this years ago in my own lesson.
Years ago in one of my own experiences, I was mentally moving through the cave at a good pace. Ahead of me was a split in the cave tunnels. The problem was, I wasn't veering, I was still moving forward and moving right at a wall that was in the middle of the fork in the tunnels. I braced for impact. But none came. Now I was going right through the cave, like barreling through the stone. What did that teach me? TRUST. It taught me not to freak out because there was nothing there that could hurt me. After that, a simple focus on movement into the tunnel or cave became a hurtling through the Multi-verse at warp speed scenario. It was and still is "surreal".
I find the strangest experiences happen when I lock onto the mental movement of going backwards. I can feel myself moving backwards, but the visuals, because my focus is now in back of me, seems to be spiraling forward. It's really weird. That one can very easily "overpower" and overload your senses, leading to the early aborting of your session.
Learning to "navigate" the NPR is very important. You need to learn the lay of the land there. But once again, my words can only go so far. You need to experience it to find out for yourself.
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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."
Albert Einstein
"Imagination is the beginning of creation. You imagine what you desire, you will what you imagine and at last you create what you will."
George Bernard Shaw
"Everything you can imagine is real."
Pablo Picasso
"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things that escape those who dream only at night."
Edgar Allan Poe
All these great men of history knew the importance of a creative imagination. Creative imagination leads to Astral Projection. You may start by simply imagining a scenario, but then somewhere along the line something happens that wasn't in your planned "script". The scene starts to take on a life of it's own and now you sit back and watch at first as your passive curiosity draws you deeper in. Pretty soon it's just a "real" as it is here in this physical reality.
This exercise is meant to bring you to this point. It is simple, but if you are serious you will find positive results with it. I know how many people say they can't visualize. That is why I have started with the basics of visualization, then as you get deeper into this "walk through" of sorts, you will find that it gets easier and easier to do. At first the visuals are hard to maintain. The tendency is to drift off onto some other day to day thoughts. But this goes away with practice. As they say "Practice makes perfect"!
I titled this the Doorway because that is the targeted object at hand. It is important in this exercise to take a few minutes to visualize (or try as you may) anything that you see in CAPITALIZED BOLD lettering. Example: If I ask is the doorway STANDARD SHAPED? You would automatically visualize a standard (rectangular) shaped door. You would then give yourself a few moments to visualize the door, before moving on to the next question.
This is not race. Take your time. Before we start I want you to make sure you are in a comfortable chair, not necessarily a bed, because I don't want you to fall asleep. Make sure your clothing is non constrictive. If it's too light in the room use a blindfold. If it's to loud where you are use some foam earplugs or noise cancelling earphones. Basically I want you to handle all your possible interruptions before they actually become interruptions.
I want you to just close your eyes and take a few minutes to relax. You can do this through a breathing technique, progressive relaxation, whatever makes you comfortable.
Now just notice the darkness in front of your closed eyelids for a about 5 minutes. Don't worry about "monkey mind" we will handle that soon.
You are in a dark hallway. There is a doorway about 10ft in front of you. You don't need to see it right now, just know it's there.
Is the doorway a STANDARD SHAPE?
Is the doorway ROUND?
Is the doorway OVAL?
Is the doorway LARGE?
Is the doorway SMALL?
Is the doorway GLOWING?
Is the doorway RED, like a FLAME or a APPLE? (You could use any other examples that you want to see the color red.
The same with the other colors as well.)
Is the doorway ORANGE, like an ORANGE?
Is the doorway YELLOW, like a BANANA?
Is the doorway GREEN, like the flowing GRASS in a field?
Is the doorway BLUE, like a beautiful CLEAR SKY in the day?
Is the doorway INDIGO, like the DEEP OCEAN?
Is the doorway VIOLET, like the glow of a BLACK LIGHT?
Lastly is the doorway WHITE, like the SNOW, the CLOUDS or even just a BRIGHT LIGHT?
Where does the doorway lead?
Does the doorway lead to the PAST? Now you are going to reminisce or as they say you are going to take a brief walk down memory lane. You are going to think back to a emotional time in your past. Was it the Prom? Was it your Child's birth? Maybe it's just something that you wish you had the chance to go back and do over again. Don't rush this process. Go back to the past and see this again. Emotional thoughts are very powerful thoughts and for that reason alone are easier to bring back up again.
Does the doorway lead to the PRESENT? What did you do today? Did you go out and visit friends? Did friends visit you? Did you just stay at home and watch TV? Relive something from the day. Make it as simple or complexed as you wish.
Does the doorway lead to the FUTURE? This is when you visualize what you wish to accomplish further in your life. See yourself achieve a major goal. Watch as your future kids are born. See yourself receiving that promotion at work.
Now, walk towards and through that doorway. WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE?
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If at any time during this exercise the visuals begin taking on a life of their own, allow your curiosity to draw you deeper. Stay with the scene. Passively observe it and allow it to progress. The more it progresses the deeper you find yourself in the scenario and further away you are from your physical focus. This entire exercise is built just to help you to escape your focus on "this" reality.
I have chosen these specific questions for a purpose. First the shapes are simple and one of the first things people are taught in visualization skills are to see basic shapes. The colors I chose because not only are they the colors that correspond to the "Chakras", but they are also the colors of a Rainbow. I know not everyone subscribes to the Chakra theories and techniques, but these colors are seen everywhere in everyday life. I chose white because of its cleanly divine meaning.
The Past, Present and Future questions are there because all three of these will give a person a chance to "lose themselves" in these visualizations. Many times when I attempt this exercise I don't even make it to the final set of questions.
I have other questions I ask myself when I do this exercise, like for instance is the doorway a CAVE OPENING, or does it have SALOON DOORS, like the old Westerns? Is it a BEADED DOORWAY? You get the idea. Have fun with it. Every question you ask leads to another intended scenario.
Please reply with any questions or comments you may have on this. The whole exercise was to show you the importance of imagination. Many times, it's your imagination that leads you to the "Astral proper"!
Good stuff, Lumaza. I see you are more of visualization type like me, even our techniques look alike. How I even got mixed in this thread, is it some kind of destiny, look at reply N:184 :-D
That was you? What was the site it was on again? Was it a "Reddit" post? What was the response from others there? A friend shared the link with me, but I can't seem to find that email or PM right now.
Quote from: Lumaza on July 03, 2021, 21:56:53
That was you? What was the site it was on again? Was it a "Reddit" post? What was the response from others there? A friend shared the link with me, but I can't seem to find that email or PM right now.
Yeah, it is from my Reddit profile, it is a refined edition from previous versions which I posted on lucid dreaming forums. Reddit users usually doesn't come back to tell if they experienced anything, because of that there is not much of feedback, everything is lost in infinity scrolling.
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Maybe I sound silly, but do you mean ground yourself? How do I ground myself?
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Grounding in the moment as I mentioned in my post mean that you must use your senses:
-smell the air
-feel the floor under your feets
-what is the room temperature
-what noise floor produce when you walk on it
It's not only about visual part, as many of senses you can bring, the more your focus will increase, but there are not absolute requirement for successful entry, they are just gonna increase your chances.
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Projected a few times
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Is this meant to be done as a visualization before you project or once you are in the experience?
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Before of course, the door will lead you to the astral plane.
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Projected a few times
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Interesting! Is the color / composition of the room door meant to lead you in a particular way, or just pique your imagination?
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I would say yes, but that is part of the mystery so I will remain silent. I only will say, this technique can lead to a hybrid state, half here - half there, so don't be surprised if happen.
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How many minutes after laying down should we do this? Do we have to be in the vibrational stage or do we just imagine it all the time and just try until it works?
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You need to do this when you are relaxed enough, vibrations are not important.
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Oh I see. I have another question. Do I just pop up in the room after I open up the door?
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No you must ground yourself in the room and then open the door, you don't need to imagine what is behind the door, beyond her can be everything - another room, a landscape, the cosmic space or even an empty space.
Quote from: Alex77 on July 03, 2021, 22:36:10
Reddit users usually doesn't come back to tell if they experienced anything, because of that there is not much of feedback, everything is lost in infinity scrolling.
Unfortunately, neither do people that come to this Forum. It helps in the further development of techniques like these if you can get some input or feedback. Positive or negative, it's still input and it's still helpful.
Quote from: Lumaza on July 03, 2021, 23:25:39
Unfortunately, neither do people that come to this Forum. It helps in the further development of techniques like these if you can get some input or feedback. Positive or negative, it's still input and it's still helpful.
Yes, I posted many techniques across forums, but without feedback I can't progress any further, forums are just too inactive these days, so I just gave up. Also I have physical illness on my spine which prevents me from using a PC, even if I want to make more comments/posts I just can't from my Phone alone, these days my fingers are getting numb from browsing only from my phone, so I'm trying to limit my time on internet.
I have a new(old) technique from my childhood(5 years old) time, which I just remember it some months ago, she was producing all of my NP experiences back then. I will try to post it, when arms hurt less. But there is something ominous about this tech, I didn't invent it, it was given to me in a dream from someone. I was having experiences back then which I couldn't reproduce now with any of the techniques I used through the years, but the moment I used her again, I got to the same place as back then, which lead me to believe that all techniques all there are leading to non-physical, but not all are leading to the same type of experience.
Today, being July 4th, I didn't plan on doing a Phase soak. I figured we would have visitors. MJ's sister came over and MJ and her started playing cards. So, I took that opportunity to do a Phase soak. It was a very unique "teaching moment".
First I will share the technique I was shown, so you can do it yourself it you are interested in it. After I share the technique, i will share how that technique appeared. I had planned on doing a very short Phase soak session, as not to bottle up the bathroom from others here using it. But that intent didn't come to fruition. It turned into a very lengthy session with lots of "moving pieces".
First you want to spend a few moments with whatever it is you do to "prime the pump". Whether that be "progressive relaxation", a ritual/Mantra. Whatever it is that gets you ready to shift. Then proceed to just noticing the darkness before your closed eyes.
There is a X in front of you. You might not see it right now, but it's there. This X has now split the darkness into 4 equal triangles. Put your focus, at this point, allow your eyes to chase the directions, unless you are already "there". So, start with the right side and focus on it, look at it. Immediately move to the bottom triangle, then to the left and finally to the top. Begin cycling through those directions. It doesn't matter if you can see the section. Just focus on the direction. Your focus should be spiraling around. Here is where it gets good. My only intent for this session was to just relax and "be".
So while doing just that. The outline of a giant X appeared. It was kind of ghostly at first. Next I saw that there was imagery appearing in each one of the sections of the X. If you make a giant X, you will see 4 equal sections. Well, in each section there appeared to be a somewhat vivid scene. When I put my focus on the separate section, the "triangle" disappeared and now I was in that scene. What I found was 4 different scenarios. Each was based on some kind of "physical" environment. Then all of sudden, my focus zoomed back to the giant X visual and now, there was one scene that was divided into the 4 sections. As if you put a puzzle together. Then the scene seemed to move out from the center, like it was separated again, yet only by a few miles or so. That was really strange.
The technique shown though was very simple. Getting your focus to move in a spiral will lead to some very interesting sensations and also visual to boot.
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Alex you said how you have health issues. I do too. You will that that is something that is shared by many of the, what they call the "!% ers", that seem to be fluent with forms of "non-local states of consciousness". I have Degenerative Disc Disc and Trigeminal Neuralgia. Our "ailments" make us good "Observes". Why, because we have to sit back and watch the others around us in activities. That makes us aware on a different level. Our ailments also give us the chance and time to practice, almost daily. So, there are benefits, although they come at the price of pain. Many of the 1%ers are empaths at well. Our pain makes us aware how others hurt too. We seem to "feel" more, if that is possible.
Another question for you Alex. Do you experience the "head rush/exploding head syndrome"? If so, how early into the experience do you get it? Recently, I have been getting it almost immediately after I do my Mantra/Healing Modality". Although intense, it subsides very quickly. Then I see the shift has occurred.
Quote from: Lumaza on July 04, 2021, 17:46:00
Another question for you Alex. Do you experience the "head rush/exploding head syndrome"? If so, how early into the experience do you get it? Recently, I have been getting it almost immediately after I do my Mantra/Healing Modality". Although intense, it subsides very quickly. Then I see the shift has occurred.
If you mean by head exploding syndrome this:
QuoteIndividuals with exploding head syndrome hear or experience loud imagined noises as they are falling asleep or waking up, have a strong, often frightened emotional reaction to the sound, and do not report significant pain; around 10% of people also experience visual disturbances like perceiving visual static, lightning, or flashes of light.
I only experience such thing twice and I think is connected to stress/anxiety or ear dysfunction. I don't think you to seek it, maybe is going to pass by itself after some time. I'm getting more often a "Hypnic jerk" which causing me some insomnia.
I have a method that shift is so swift, that is almost scary, I will try to post it today or tomorrow. I think it have the potential to become the fastest phasing method available.
This is the best I can describe it. It seems like the most intense overload of all the senses at the same time. I call it the "exploding head" because it seems to apex at the head. It's like you have no control whatsoever over yourself. It starts as a low pulsing sensation. More in the eyes than anything. Then your focus seems to change. It's like you are no longer using your eyes at all. When it's finished, you are left in a "expanse". You can't even sense having eyes anymore. Everything just seems to be there. You are dead in the center of some kind of vivid scenario. Sometimes though, you are left in a expanse of either just total darkness or intense light. It's so hard to explain. We don't seem to have words to define it. Once you experience it and see it through, you know exactly what I am talking about. Many report it. but they also report aborting it when it comes on. My curiosity helped me see through though. Now it can happen very quickly, It's like the price we need to pay to cross the veil. If your fear stops you, you never get to reap the rewards for your courage. This only occurs with me during my Phase soak sessions. It is much different then a Sleep Paralysis experience.
I am interested in hearing your "quick shift" method. You can either share it here or make a new thread of your own to share it. :-)
A tip for everyone who is using this technique, try to change the door with a window instead, everything else remains the same, but the experience can change dramatically.
Quote from: Alex77 on July 07, 2021, 18:39:01
A tip for everyone who is using this technique, try to change the door with a window instead, everything else remains the same, but the experience can change dramatically.
You could say the same thing about targeting a "mirror" as well. I chose a doorway because it leads to a automatic mental association of a portal of sorts. In other words, it is more of a mental "metaphor" for a "entrance". Doorways, just like windows, lead to changes in scenery.
My initial technique that I wrote in the opener years ago here leads to a lot of "mental associations". Those mental associations help people that say that they have problems "visualizing" on demand. My technique kind of "tricks" the mind into co-operating. Thus leading to a loss in physical focus. I have tweaked the technique quite a bit through the years. You will see that "evolution" if you read this entire thread.
You will find that all of the stickies in this Sub-Forum here can be very useful. Many of them contain "walkthroughs" of sorts.
I was talking with a good Friend, who is also a member here on the Pulse last night. We were talking about the Focus levels and how people perceive them in different ways. Our talk segued into a talk on the benefits of Robert Bruce's "NEW", which stands for "New Energy Ways". In today's Phase soak, that seemed to become the focus of my session. I was aware as I moved through each of my perception of the Focus levels.
I titled this "MY Perception", because that is exactly what it is. It's the way I see it. My perception comes as the result of using my Binaural Beats/Isochronic Tones and mostly my Doorway technique for years now. Throw in a bit of Robert Bruce's NEW and you have a winning ticket.
A bit about Robert Bruce's NEW technique. I don't really see eye to eye with Robert on his continual talk about "Negs". I just haven't experienced it myself. But I can't say they don't exist though. He isn't the only one that talks about that phenomenon. I will say though, Robert's NEW is one of the best things in this practice that I have ever come upon. I learned it years ago and still utilize it today. Today I use it more for "deferring pain". When my back, shoulders, neck, etc. is hurting, I just focus on my toes and begin moving/cycling etheric energy back and forth between my toes. For a new person though, experiencing "etheric energy" will be all you need to prove there is something real here, even to the most doubting Thomas out there.
Robert has a new NEW program. This one is called version #2 and can be found at this link here. Like I said, I am a huge proponent on the NEW technique. Once you feel the sensation of brushing energy up and down your body, you are sold on it. Using just that and "locking on" to that focus will lead to a shift in consciousness. But many times it will be more of a "Etheric Astral" event. What we call the RTZ or real time zone.
http://innerworlddesigns.com/circle/book12/pdf/Robert%20Bruce%20-%20New%20Energy%20Ways.pdf
Now back to my focus levels. They are very simple. I experience them a result of using he mindset that the darkness in front of me is some kind of "entrance". Whether that be a tunnel, cave, hallway, etc..
The first one, Focus 1 would be, you close your eyes and see a flat black screen in front of you, like it is framed. You can liken to it to being in a tunnel or cave that has walls. The flatness of the blackness in front of you subsides and that leads you into the next Focus level.
Focus two is when you are now becoming aware of the darkness around you. At this point, you are aware of depth. Now you can will yourself down the cave or tunnel in front of you.
The next level, Focus 3 is the "deepening". This is the result of moving down that tunnel or cave. Now you are a simple point of consciousness. You don't have to turn to see what's beside or even behind you. All you need to do is to focus on that direction and you can see. At his point, you have 360 degree vision. The focus on what is behind you can get confusing. Especially if you initiate a mental motion into it. You will be seeing it like it is coming from in front of you, yet feel as you are moving backwards.
Focus 4 is when we get so deep that we have hit a level that is hard to describe. This is the level of "being" in areas of pure color. This is the area where we receive the "downloads" that we have talked about here on this Forum. I made a thread here years ago on just that subject. You can find that thread at this link here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/the_download_aka_the_forbidden_dream-t44872.0.html
Szaxx had this to say about it "No form, massive amounts of data?
You've connected with the source my friend."
You can move through these layers or levels very quickly. Sometimes so quick you are shocked and actually miss your cue. You are already "there", yet you are still using whatever technique you use, oblivious to that fact. The "overdoing it" will result in a failed effort.
Those Focus levels are likely the result of changes in the frequency of brain waves. You could see Focus 1, as the Alpha state. Focus 2 Delta, Focus 3 Theta and lastly Focus 4, almost a Gamma, which is the deepest you can go. It is very difficult to hold a Focus 4 for even a few seconds. We don't have the proper words to describe what that is like.
For the last week now, in my Phase soak sessions I have had repeated examples and adventures with "mental NPR motion". The reason I like Robert's NEW so much is that it is very easy way to sample motion that is not of our own physical bodies/vessel Earth based nature. In other words we are still receiving a form of physical input. But it's our "etheric body" that is sensing it. In Robert's case, it's the movement of "etheric energy". It's hard to explain. It's one of those things you have to experience for yourself.
In one such experience, three days ago, I began my session as normal with a couple minutes of focusing on my Healing Modality Mantra. When I was done that, I just looked into, was aware of the darkness before my closed eyes. I was aware of the flat bordered screen that was in front of me. Then a circle appeared in the distance. I locked onto it and saw it was a apple. I would guess at that point a "mental association" kicked in and made the circle into a apple. It was at a distance though and I couldn't see it that good, so I kind of "magnified" the image. Then a teaching moment kicked in. I didn't magnify anything. I drew myself closer to it or it moved towards me. Our eyes don't have a telescopic or even a microscopic ability. What had occurred was some kind of mental movement.
I use mental motion often. If I could choose one thing that would person learn to navigate the NPR, it would be to learn to utilize motion in your focus. There are people here on the Pulse that already do that. Whether that motion is due to a Hammock moving back and forth, jumping on a trampoline, watching a simple yo-yo going up and down, My mental motion seems to kick in when I am noticing the darkness before my closed eyes, with the mindset that the darkness is a tunnel, hallway, cave etc., something that one can enter.
The magnifying a object thing is a way to trick your mind into gear. You can start with the simple focus of a object in front of you. It will be kind of ghostly at this point and may disappear all together. When that happens, bring it back. I would start with a simple geometric shape and allow your "mental association" to the shape create a object. Now once you can hold it stable, magnify it, so you can see details on the object. If it's a ball, what kind do you see? Is there any writing on it? Allow your curiosity the freedom to investigate it. When it disappears, bring it back. If it begins to morph anew though, allow it the freedom and go with the flow. Unbeknownst to you, you are learning mental NPR movement. From here you do the same with the darkness in front of your closed eyes. Go into it. Investigate, explore it. There is always something awaiting you ahead.
Now to some cool experiences I had recently via my Phase soak session. I always begin my sessions with my Healing modality Mantra. So, I don't have to include that all the time anymore here in my descriptions of my adventures.
I am noticing/aware of the darkness before my eyes. A motion forward starts to occur without my intent. It starts slow but soon takes on a wild ride. The words of the song by the band 38 Special "Hold on Loosely, but don't let go" are going through my mind. It feels like I am on a Rollercoaster of some kind and periodically a car, like a rail car appears in front of me. This goes back to the "Pace Car" scenarios that I often happen across. This ride is getting quite wild and now it's more like entering and going through visual spinning portals, wormholes, vortexes, some of color, some just of intense light. The thing is, I have no control over it. it seems, at the moment that I am not allowed to stay in one area or another. It seems the only control I have is to stay and hold on or abort it and end the session. I found that odd. But I also saw there is a lesson in this and if I had control over it, I wouldn't have seen what it was I was to see. I had to abort. It got to be much. It seemed to be a test to see how far I would go. When things began to spiral out of control, I had to end the session. It was incredibly awesome though.
Yesterday I had another cool adventure. I began my session as normal, then moved onto the noticing the flat darkness that soon took on depth. Then I started to feel movement forward. A visual soon accompanied the motion and I found myself moving forward very quickly with the visual of seeing everything behind me. That was really strange and the same "ride", with the backwards visuals continued through the entire length of the session, until I finally ended the session.
While in the NPR, I don't need appendages. Part of my opening ritual is a affirmation that "By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body". From then on, I am a simple point of consciousness, with no limitations.
Some years ago I posted this on another forum which looks like your zooming:
QuoteIn recent months I developed strange ability(if I can call it like that). In very relaxed state, just after wake up from sleep without trying any lucid dream techniques. With closed eyes I see images or more like scenes, it's hard to explain. They are very vivid and most of the time, they are moving. I'm not trying to imagine or visualize anything, they just appear random. The ability I'm talking about is in fact "zooming". I can zoom on every detail on the scene, the feeling is like my eyes or vision are moving around.
For example:
I see a street full of moving people and cars, a newspaper shop, living buildings (all normal stuff of a street). Now I can zoom at whatever element I get my eyes on. My line of vision is not limited to straight-line. I see that something is moving on the 2nd floor window in opposite building and I'm starting to zoom, my vision is moving slowly through people and cars to the direction of the window(I have two modes:slow zoom, fast zoom 2x,4x,6x). I see a man face, he is moving in the kitchen. I zoom more and now I'm in the room, can look around if I wish. He sat at the table and start reading a newspaper, I get curious about the newspaper and zoom more. Now I can see the articles, but I can't recognize the language. I only saw the date which is roughly five years from now! My focus suddenly collapse and my vision become blank.
I experimented a lot with it, latter on I even developed a technique based on it.
Quote from: Alex77 on August 09, 2021, 19:34:36
Some years ago I posted this on another forum which looks like your zooming:
I experimented a lot with it, latter on I even developed a technique based on it.
Alex, we seem to be caught in some kind of "Hundredth Monkey effect". Before you get excited that I referred to you as a monkey. I referred to myself as that as well. I did it to explain my meaning. Here are a few quotes based on the Hundred Monkey effect:
"Hundredth Monkey is a beautiful metaphor for a phenomena that is being increasingly proven scientifically. It is like the tipping point when just one more person having an awareness could close the loop or complete the blueprint for this knowledge. After that, everyone can tab into the collective conscious to download the data."
and
"The hundredth monkey effect is a hypothetical phenomenon in which a new behavior or idea is spread rapidly by unexplained means from one group to all related groups once a critical number of members of one group exhibit the new behavior or acknowledge the new idea. The behavior was said to propagate even to groups that are physically separated and have no apparent means of communicating with each other."
I have been looking for others that experience things like I do. Throughout my life, I found a few here and there. I found some here in past and present Members of the Pulse.
One of those people that I did find that mirrors some of my own experiences is the famed Author "Whitley Strieber". I heard him in a Radio interview years ago and when I did, I almost spit my coffee out. He was explaining the exact same phenomenon that had been occurring with basically all of my life, starting as a young child. In it, I would feel something at my feet. I would then feel my legs rising and the next thing I know, I am being dragged out of a window or a wall. At my home here now when it happens, I am always dragged down our hallway and out our patio window. I have never seen who it was that was dragging me though. Whitley said he does and he says it's ETs.
Once I had the basics of Phasing down years ago I somehow started coming across a school of sorts. This teaching seemed to be based on what I teach here to people that are reading this read here today, the "Doorway technique". This teaching seemed to come as a result of "downloads" of information that were shared with me in my sessions. I haven't invented the wheel. Alex, neither have you. We both seem to have come across the same "collective link" though. Many others have as well. It's just we haven't all "congealed" yet. Meaning , we haven't all came together so as to form a whole or produce a result as of yet.
William Henry, who is well known for his part on the show Ancient Aliens always says "Mankind is a species with Amnesia". This is true. But, the memories, the knowledge do return to those that seek it. That's what is happening to the "collective consciousness" still today. We are remembering how to create that wheel again. Alex, you, I and many others have tapped into something incredible. I know we can go so much further with it. But for some reason, very few people seem to want to go that extra mile. Om Casey, a member of this Forum here has gone that extra mile. The only problem is she is still searching for the "Monkey's" (I use that term solely in a description to my above conversation), just as I am still doing today. She is building programs to utilize a conscious collective grouping. But it's really hard to find those "diamonds in the rough"!
All the knowledge of who we are and what extraordinary things we can do are accessed in the Akashic records. We just need to remember where to look to find it there! :-)
Quote from: Lumaza on August 11, 2021, 00:30:00
Alex, we seem to be caught in some kind of "Hundredth Monkey effect". Before you get excited that I referred to you as a monkey. I referred to myself as that as well. I did it to explain my meaning. Here are a few quotes based on the Hundred Monkey effect:
"Hundredth Monkey is a beautiful metaphor for a phenomena that is being increasingly proven scientifically. It is like the tipping point when just one more person having an awareness could close the loop or complete the blueprint for this knowledge. After that, everyone can tab into the collective conscious to download the data."
and
"The hundredth monkey effect is a hypothetical phenomenon in which a new behavior or idea is spread rapidly by unexplained means from one group to all related groups once a critical number of members of one group exhibit the new behavior or acknowledge the new idea. The behavior was said to propagate even to groups that are physically separated and have no apparent means of communicating with each other."
I have been looking for others that experience things like I do. Throughout my life, I found a few here and there. I found some here in past and present Members of the Pulse.
I also found(not invented) others beside zooming, scrolling(intention of seeing part of the image outside of the visible frame), rotation(intention of seeing something from impossible angle), motion(intention of seeing image moving on its own) - like play/pause from video player, Grabbing (when an image becomes more stable, intentionally grab it with mind hands and pick it up, there is a chance that I will be pulled in).
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One of those people that I did find that mirrors some of my own experiences is the famed Author "Whitley Strieber". I heard him in a Radio interview years ago and when I did, I almost spit my coffee out.
This also happened to me one time. :-D
QuoteHe was explaining the exact same phenomenon that had been occurring with basically all of my life, starting as a young child. In it, I would feel something at my feet. I would then feel my legs rising and the next thing I know, I am being dragged out of a window or a wall. At my home here now when it happens, I am always dragged down our hallway and out our patio window. I have never seen who it was that was dragging me though. Whitley said he does and he says it's ETs.
I think people look at the wrong direction when they say ETs.
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Once I had the basics of Phasing down years ago I somehow started coming across a school of sorts. This teaching seemed to be based on what I teach here to people that are reading this read here today, the "Doorway technique". This teaching seemed to come as a result of "downloads" of information that were shared with me in my sessions. I haven't invented the wheel. Alex, neither have you. We both seem to have come across the same "collective link" though. Many others have as well.
I never said that I have invented the wheel, I use terms like found and developed, the same goes for Newton, he didn't invent the gravity, he found it. Telekinesis exist right now, so if tomorrow I develop telekinesis that won't mean I invented her.
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All the knowledge of who we are and what extraordinary things we can do are accessed in the Akashic records. We just need to remember where to look to find it there! :-)
I don't think you can find everything on that *place, some information can only be found on higher planes. When you are saying "of who we are" are you referring to human beings?
Quote from: Alex77 on August 11, 2021, 18:49:47
I also found(not invented) others beside zooming, scrolling(intention of seeing part of the image outside of the visible frame), rotation(intention of seeing something from impossible angle), motion(intention of seeing image moving on its own) - like play/pause from video player, Grabbing (when an image becomes more stable, intentionally grab it with mind hands and pick it up, there is a chance that I will be pulled in).
Ditto! I experience the same thing. See what happens when you let your defenses down? You can actually have civilized conversations with others that are ready and willing to listen.
QuoteI think people look at the wrong direction when they say ETs.
One person's ET is another person's Angel or Demon. It's all in the perception! :wink:
QuoteI never said that I have invented the wheel, I use terms like found and developed, the same goes for Newton, he didn't invent the gravity, he found it. Telekinesis exist right now, so if tomorrow I develop telekinesis that won't mean I invented her.
I came to that conclusion because the way your words seem to imply "ownership". Read through your posts here and you will see what I mean.
QuoteI don't think you can find everything on that *place, some information can only be found on higher planes.
Lol, that is the "higher planes"! :-)
QuoteWhen you are saying "of who we are" are you referring to human beings?
I mean we the "Spiritual Beings", that have chosen to incarnate here in these "vessels" of ours, to have a "Human" experience.
In another recent thread here, there is a discussion about how to turn those "grainy faded images" that we first get, into a full-blown and vivid scenario. You can read more on that discussion in this thread here:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/cant_see_images_anymore_lost_ability_please_give_me_your_opinions-t48194.0.html;msg377047#new
I am re-posting that quote from Frank Kepple here because it describes the visual aspect that my Doorway thread was created to achieve.
"The visuals you imagine at first are used mainly as a gateway to Focus 10. At which point the natural Phasing process is kick-started. Here you switch from perceiving visuals generated as part of an imaginary rundown, to perceiving visuals which begin being played to you as part of the Phasing process.
The visuals tend to have a kind of thread which you simply follow. As such they do have the effect of being a kind of gateway to further focus levels. But the key difference is the visuals are actually being played to you, as opposed to you generating them.
I've mentioned before about how followers of the Moen-school Focussed Attention methods are taught to make contact with former loved-ones who are resident in an area they call the Afterlife. They do this by first imagining talking to them about some topic they would normally have done, and in a similar situation to which they would have been while Physical.
Next they are taught to be on the lookout for anything that comes about that is not on their imaginary script. If they perceive something to that effect, they follow along the thread of it and see where it leads.
The visual rundown example I gave in the monster thread follows along similar lines. Where you first choose some kind of metaphysical imagery to suit your tastes. Not something too simple else your mental focus will dissipate and you'll lose all realisation of Self as your body goes to sleep. But not something so complex and detailed you begin to engage in an act of creative visualisation. Which tends to prevent the body from falling asleep.
Doing this you start to get instances where suddenly you think, hang on a minute, I never imagined that! Which tends to have the unfortunate effect of zapping you out of it, at first."
That quote came from this thread that Frank had made in the past here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/focusing_inward_and_visualizing-t4192.0.html
Hmm, who would have thought "progressive relaxation" combined with a bit of "creative visualization" would lead one to fall asleep in 2 minutes. :-o :roll: :-D Now, if one could only keep their awareness during that time, then they could ..................................................................................... and we would have a real story here. Perhaps Tik Tok and the Military should teach that too, lol! :-)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tiktok-sleep-hack-developed-military-002805070.html
Quote from: Lumaza on January 27, 2022, 13:54:13
Hmm, who would have thought "progressive relaxation" combined with a bit of "creative visualization" would lead one to fall asleep in 2 minutes. :-o :roll: :-D Now, if one could only keep their awareness, then they could ..................................................................................... and we would have a real story here. Perhaps Tik Tok and the Military should teach that too, lol! :-)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tiktok-sleep-hack-developed-military-002805070.html
I have actually tried the progressive relaxation starting from your toes and relaxing each muscle one by one all the way to the top of your head. You feel like you will float away. However, the technique from this guy, if he only added one more detail - to imagine swaying on the canoe or hammock, this added motion will have people waking up in Sleep Paralysis and freaking out haha, if they don't know what is SP.
Following the "Canoe Rundown" theme, if the swaying doesn't result in an exit, then just continue the visualization and imagine laying down in the canoe and going backward off a hundred foot waterfall...that might elicit an exit or even a Phasing, lol.
My first "consciously aware" experience came as the result of the "imprint' left in my mind's eye while "candle staring". My next years of successful experiences came through a progressive relaxation process, which soon led to "hypnagogic imagery". That imagery soon took on a life of its own.
Many people tend to think that the process of "progressive relaxation" has to be long and drawn out. It doesn't take long at all. Actually, it takes longer to write the steps down then it does to cycle through the entire progression process, lol! :-)
...and like Lightbeam and EV said, add some "motion" to your focal target or creative imagery and you have a winning combination! :-)
I cant' say I have practised progressive relaxation regularly much myself. But I myself never really get to that relaxed feeling u get in a good sleep right when waking up.
If I am in a conscious state(and aware of my body) I am almost always pretty tense. I have tried to do progressive relaxation. But I just can't seem to reach deeper relaxation with conscious effort..?
It just makes me feel less relaxed if anything :O Any suggestions?
Quote from: Sammie on January 29, 2022, 16:37:14
I cant' say I have practised progressive relaxation regularly much myself.
There's your answer right there!
I cant' say I have practised progressive relaxation regularly much myself. What does that say to you? Practice, practice, practice.
You don't need to use the progressive relaxation technique. There are tons of other techniques that you can experiment with. Some are based on utilizing your other senses. The progressive relaxation tech is made to make you, well. as it says, "relaxed"! :wink:
It's pretty hard to lose your physical body focus when your focus is locked onto your physical body's sensations. In other words. you need to find a way to relieve and release that physical tension, otherwise, you won't find much success with Astral Projection period. Your physical body will in turn inhibit your ability to release, simply, because you will stay locked on it or should I say "to it". Astral projection has to do with the ability of one to be able to release their physical focus long enough that they may experience another or "elsewhere". How you achieve that is up to you.
Quote from: Lumaza on August 17, 2015, 07:20:15
Everything you can imagine is real."
Pablo Picasso
...so true !
Quote from: Lumaza on August 17, 2015, 07:20:15Where does the doorway lead?
I use blank rectangular cards to connect astral shapes. They're like little doors. If i built a microcosm on the table in the kitchen, i place such a card connected to the proper plane of that microcosm. Then, on the table in my living room i have another microcosm and do the same.
So... they lead to another universe.
Nice stick! The techniques are definitely recommended.
Good day.
Thanks for your reply. I think I will try focusing in on "elsewhere" rather than relaxation. As I feel that would probably help me let go of the physical more easily
It's been quite a while since I posted here in this thread. If there is anyone out there that is using the Doorway technique and or does their own Phase sessions, I have a new target of focus for you.
For a while now, I have been focusing on a book that is in front of me. I close my eyes, do my Phase routine, then I immediately focus on the book that is in the darkness before my closed eyes. I don't image a book. At first, it is just the darkness, but I "know" the book is there and pretty soon it will appear. The pages aren't to be read though. Instead, they are to be "felt", as in, they are to consume your focus into them. Almost every time I have done this now, a very vivid encounter occurred. Those adventures, were of all different kinds. Most of them have begun with a kind of spiraling experience. Almost all of the experiences had some kind of "mental motion" attached to them, leading to "portals" of a kinds, in different shapes and sizes.
I just did a session per your instructions and after 5 minutes focusing on the space outside my body, I saw as a visual the Miky Way spinning. I also felt the spinning sensation, like the galaxy was sucking me in. Maybe because I am in the Miky Way galaxy at present, I just felt its energy movement. But there was a star shining much brighter on the opposite side of where I/Earth was positioned. I don't know the map of the constellations and I don't know what start system there may be in that location, but it was drawing my attention to it by pulsing with its light.
Quote from: LightBeam on May 08, 2023, 18:26:45
I just did a session per your instructions and after 5 minutes focusing on the space outside my body, I saw as a visual the Miky Way spinning. I also felt the spinning sensation, like the galaxy was sucking me in. Maybe because I am in the Miky Way galaxy at present, I just felt its energy movement. But there was a star shining much brighter on the opposite side of where I/Earth was positioned. I don't know the map of the constellations and I don't know what start system there may be in that location, but it was drawing my attention to it by pulsing with its light.
For some reason, that focus target seems to be a unique "trigger". Many of my experiences have begun from that "star field" that you spoke of. I would then mentally move towards the brightest light/star and see what there is to see. It's weird how the expectations of a open book in front of me can morph into a completely different scenario so quickly. There have been times that I do actually see a huge open ancient looking book in front of me. I then motion towards it. Once in a while I can see some kind of symbols or "cuneiform" on the pages. But then the morphing occurs and a whole different scenario opens up. I have never seen any actual "words", as in one of our many languages on the pages. Just symbols! The pages are old. The pages are akin to a kind of scroll paper. I guess it could be "papyrus". Could this be the "Akashic Records"? I'm sure they would come in all different shapes and forms.
great experiences, Lu! I will go further next time.
Interesting. I might give the ancient book method a try one time. I'm fascinated by the Akashic Records and would love to 'read' them.
Quote from: Volgerle on May 09, 2023, 14:24:22
Interesting. I might give the ancient book method a try one time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SNAluOj6U&t=3s
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: Lumaza on May 09, 2023, 21:36:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SNAluOj6U&t=3s
:-D :-D :-D
Darn, you caught me. :wink: