The Astral Pulse

p.s. sorry if this topic offends anyone - it isn't suppose to be raunchy.  I think that it is a topic of legitimate concern.

Well I dunno how much energy masterbation takes out of you but I dont care, it feels good.

Arn't Incubi supposed to feed on babys energy or something and arn't sucubi supposed to be bad witches that drain you of energy.
Never really had any experience with them so cant help you.

Hi Lily,

I realize this is a legitimate question because sexual problems of all sorts arise on account of the its huge influence on humans and the distortions that have occured because of ignorance and misuse.

I would highly recommend that you read John Baines' The Science of Love (available thru Amazon.com) which is the Hermetic viewpoint of what love really is and what love is not (according to the common misconceptions and distortions in the world today). It is a very involved subject and not for the faint-hearted.  It can be quite an eye-opener and makes you realize that you must take responsiblity not only for your actions but also your thoughts.

Basically, during masturbation magnetic energy is lost, whereas with a partner, magnetic energy is exchanged and renewed.   Apart from the loss of energy, there is also the question of the thought forms that are created while fantasising during masturbation.  These magnetic or energetic thought forms can come back to haunt you as the incubus and succubus that you mention which will attach themselves to you and influence you during your sleep to create erotic dreams to stimulate you to orgasm and discharge your magnetic energy so that they can feed.  Total abstinence from sex can also cause a build-up of energy that will attract these creatures if you do not have a partner to discharge these energies (strange way of saying "making love" huh?), so you will have to find a way of sublimating sex with creativity and action (painting/music  sports/exercise ot etc).

Please read Robert's online article about resisting the negative forces in your life to get a good idea about what to do to prevent attachment of any kind of "neg" that you may have attracted to you.  Naturally, you must control your thoughts and prevent yourself from indulging in any kind of sexual fantasy that may feed these thought forms you have created, so they will starve and be forced to leave.  

Again, I recommend that you order Baines' book, because education on the subject is the only real solution to prevention of these kinds of problems.

Julia

I've recently been having a bunch of dreams in which I have lots of orgasms. These aren't otherwise sexual dreams though, in the dream, I'll just be running through the woods, orgasming away (for some reason that's really funny right now). My guess is that it's either a buid up of sexual energy, since I have a girlfriend that I don't get to spend much time with, or it could be the succubi. If it is them, I don't really feel the need to get rid of them. I've only had about 4 of these dreams, they felt good, and my health has only improved, of anything. Perhaps if they got more attached they would have a stronger detrimental affect (sexual addiction, poor health, etc..), but I don't see a problem with an occasional visit.  Ben

"Everybody does it and if they say they don't, then they are lying".  This is something you have doubtlessly heard in your life at some point and it is false.  Obviously this is something that is usually more of an issue for men than women...

The bottom line is that there are those people who do not partake in this activity...they are usually people who try to avoid negativity in all it's forms (thoughts, actions, etc.)  I agree with Julia in regards to the total loss of energy (physical and emotional)- while on the other hand with a partner there is an exchange of sorts.

I also recommend reading Robert's article on the subject of avoiding negativity on the homepage.  

-Dan

Hi Lily
  Incubi and sucubi do not happen because of masturbation. Incubi normally attack women. Sucubi attack men. In the old legends they say that they can cause emotions and feelings so intense that it causes a lot of problems. The difference between thought forms and these negs are that the incubi and sucubi are constant after they attach. They never stop and it hurts the victim. I have heard it described as being continously raped and crawled upon. Every case I have dealt with has never been caused by the victim yet.
  Nita

I'd have to say again, as I did when someone mentioned Tantra:
Sexuality release life energy--that energy's most likely intended to facilitate the creation of a new life--make sense?  The energy goes to the woman....still making sense?
Of course, in masturbation, it's simply lost---but it would be anyhow, if you had a partner.  If you're female, it increases your life-energy level, the moreso if you have a partner--but if you don't use that for anything, then it's simply going to dissipate over a relatively short period of time.  If a female masturbates--same thing, their energy level goes up, but not as much as if they had a partner.

However, that's life energy--the energy of the soul, as it were.  It's the very heavy, solid-seeming energy that some martial artists use.

Psi energy on the other hand--the energy that makes up the bulk of the aura--is lighter-seeming, and appears to be associated with nervous system activity.
So, if you listen to active music, get up and move around, have sex, masturbate, get mad, get really happy, etc etc.....
Your psi-energy levels will increase, regardless of your gender.

Keep in mind that people are designed to do these things--a guy's not going to lose so much life-energy from sex that he's incapacitated, unless he's REALLY overdoing it.  Yes, it takes something out of him, no matter if he has a partner or not.  But that's his stress, from being male.  For females, the stress comes in preganancy and child-rearing, and that may possibly take just as much or more out of a female than the cumulative amount a male loses from sex.  I suppose that depends on how many children a female has, if any.  However, females are built slightly tougher than males, when it comes to withstanding stress, pain, and demands on their body.

I do wonder if all of this may have something to do with why men generally have slightly shorter lifespans than women.

This also explains why many people after sex feel both tired and full of energy at the same time--one type of energy goes down, the other up.

Whether or not you're going to worry about any of this at all depends on what you're trying to do.

Certainly that energy could be channeled to some specific purpose.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

G'day Folks!

First, for the record, I'd like to say that I did experiment with masturbation once in high school; but I didn't inhale!

Ahem....on a more serious note.....

This is a more complex matter than it might appear on the surface.  

Incubus and Sucubus are technically the same entity, although some may develop sexual preferences in their feeding habits. An incubus entity is technically demonic, but at the lowest end of the scale. In my experience they have more animalistic intelligence, but they are of course quite powerful in their way.

Some confusing is obvious regarding Negs and sexuality, because of the gross lack of accurate information regarding these matters. All Negs will at times use sex and/or fear to crack open and control victims.  So, telling an incubus from any other type of Neg is very difficult.  Some Negs can also be called sexual predators and deviants that delight in sexually tormenting people for its own sake.

I have seen a couple of Incubus entities firsthand, and had my description independently confirmed by others.  Incubus are actually quite beautiful and not scary in the slightest.  They look like a cellular organism, a bit like an ameoba.  If seen with astral sight, or clairvoyantly, while manifesting close to the physical dimension in real time, their true form looks to be about 18 inches to 3 feet long, oval, and they seem to be made of clear jelly. Inside they sparkle with hundreds of tiny multicoloured motes of light.  At one end is an internal structure that  looks a bit like a red daisy. This seems to be the rear end.  It pulses with a thick red glow when it moves.  Its movements are fast and jerky, much like other astral wildlife when observed with astral sight.

Incubus type entities usually attack quickly and strongly, and their victims are usually but not always asleep.  Their method of attack seems to depend on the experience of the incubus, and on the weaknesses of the victim.  Sometimes they will attack while a person is asleep, sometimes when they are awake but relaxed.  With the first type of attack, incubus latch onto the genital energy centre directly and cause a powerful forced type of orgasm very quickly.  The second type of attack involves telepathically, hypnotically broadcast sexual dreams and illusions, plus genital centre stimulation.  If a person is awake, or wakes up during the attack, the incubus will often create the illusion of a beautiful human body on top of the victim, carrying out various sexual acts.  The end result is always the same, a far more intense orgasm than the victim would normally have.  This is due to the direct genital chakra stimulation.

It seems to me that the more powerful and experienced an incubus is, the less stealty and illusion they depend upon.  A powerful incubus will just fly into a person's room, latch onto his/her genital centre and force them to have an intense orgasm, often in seconds. It will then fly away and will often not return.  

Some incubus, the more powerful versions, are like free roaming opportunistic sexual predators, taking what they need when they feel like it.  But some will form attachments and even 'relationships' with humans. I have experienced a number of incubus attacks myself over the years, and consulted with many people who have experienced the same.  I also once had the opportunity to observe an incubus attack on a woman.  

Most incubus attacks involve some degree of physical paralysis, even full waking paralysis, being caused, especially if the victim awakes during the attack.

The basic symptoms of an incubus attack vary a bit, and are different for male and female victims, but are much like astral sex. For females, they generally involve an intense, sudden and deep penetration of the whole genital area, up into the stomach.  For males especially, an intense, deep sucking sensation is often felt. But the above types of attack can be experienced by either sex.  Either type results in sudden, urgent need for sexual release. This usually happens quicker with female victims.  Efforts to fight this will usually result in various levels of paralysis.  This type of paralysis feels like all the energy has been sucked from your body and you don't have the energy to move, and your body feels very heavy and weak.  During most incubus attacks, male and female victims will also feel a heavy weight on their chests, as if a heavy person were sitting on them, and they will have difficulty breathing.

It takes a great deal of strength to break such an attack.  But the same basic technique of concentrating on moving a single big toe, as with breaking normal waking paralysis, is the best way to break it.

Some people will form relationships with incubus and become addicted to them.  When this happens, they actually call the incubus to them whenever they want sex.  Incubus caused orgasm is more powerful than the normal human version, so its understandable how addiction occurs.
With a relationship, the incubus will usually create a very solid form indeed, often with a beautiful face that can be seen. In this case, the willing victim will often be fully awake during encounters.

The above is quite common and has been known about for many hundreds of years.  Such incubus are often called 'Demon Lovers'.  I have known a number of people to have such relationships.

Although I have never seen this result in death, it is said that incubus addiction can cause illness and eventually death.  Most people I have known with this kind of 'relationship' problem have had severe health problems that seem to come with it, and these get progressively worse if the relationship continues.

I have known men and women in their 70's and even their 80's to experience full blown incubus attacks.

As you can see, this is not a simple matter.  And it must be kept in mind that most Negs will use sex against victims at some time or other, so its very hard to tell 'which' entity is involved in cases of Neg influence and attack.  

However, as Nita suggests, it is quite likely that incubus type entities are involved with magical/psychic attacks, as incubus are technically demonic and thus can be bound and sent to attack people, just like most demons.

In my experience, masturbation and the fantasies involved do not involve incubus type entities.  True incubus entities are not that subtle and generally take what they want directly. They have no need to coerce their victims to masturbate and fantasise. This last is usually related to the Neg attachment and conditioning process. In this case, often starting in early childhood, fantasies (often involving core images) are telepathically and hypnotically implanted.  I have known 5yo children from good homes to have adult sexual fantasies, with there being no exposure to pornography or adult sexuality. These core image fantasies are then Neg reinforced in puberty when children discover masturbation.  Negs reinforce their implanted fantasies by providing intense, direct genital centre stimulation when these are entertained. They discourage all other more natural fantasies by broadcasting depressing feelings and anxiety, etc.  Its not hard to work out what happens in the long term.  

The above involves simple reward and punishment, which as we all know is a very effective psychological conditioning device. As you might imagine, this type of conditioning can have more than a little to do with the development a person's sexual preferences later in life, and even with a person's sexual orientation.


Food for thought, aye......


Take care, Robert.

ps, all the above is dealt with more thoroughly and clearly in PPSD.

Hi Robert
  You really have a way with words and put it so much better than I did in describing what happens. I have noticed that there is always a pattern with the incubus or sucubus where they are sent by another person. It doesn't mean they are trying to curse someone. I have noticed that when a person is being lusted after or has rejected someone that they exist almost as a thought form at first and then grow stronger and stronger.
  A lot of times it happens with a relationship ending or any other matter where a partner focus's on the other one exclusively. A certain amount of wanting them to be humiliated or other patterns of thought are involved in this. The thoughts are almost visible involving rejection, anger or other negative emotions. It seems to draw these creatures where they make it happen to the other person.
  I have met a couple of people with demon lovers as they are called that enjoyed them. It seemed a different mental setup than the normal incubus or sucubus interaction because it wasn't painful to the victim.
  Nita

Robert, is there any way I may have some portion of that for my Parazoology web site?   Complete and accurate descriptions of spirit entities (you even had the actual "appearance", which so few do!) is very hard to come by.
The site is meant to be an ongoing listing of spirits with an attempt at classifying them.  I'd hoped that it will be easier for people to pass on information on what things are and how to deal with them if there was some sort of central reference.
It'll be impossible to get everything, but just keeping the idea going I think will be valuable in the long run.
My primary problem so far has been that I'm not really clairvoyant.  I can give some approximations of an entity's actual appearance, but not its typical projected appearance in most cases.
You have a very highly detailed and complete description of a specific "species" of entity--I'd love to add it to the database, however small it may be currently.  Full credit given of course, if you'd allow me to do that.

(The url is http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wingedwolf/Parazoology/index.html
Keep in mind, though, that I lost a huge number of graphics in a server crash, and haven't yet managed to re-create them all, or get the site completely straightened out--I'm working on it all, slowly.  I have had to do this with all my sites, and I put the Guild site at top priority, with my home page second).


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

G'day Winged Wolf!

Yes, please feel free to quote this on your site.

Please use the new domain of www.astralpulse.com in the reference.  If you want a book reference, use "Bruce, Robert, Practical Psychic Self-Defense, Hampton Roads, VA, 2002"

I'll also send you a pic of the incubus entity, that an artist, Paul Carrick, did for me.  If you use the pic, please make sure you include Paul's name under it.

I should learn how to sketch, re I've seen lots and lots of entities over the years, including angels and demons, deities and masters and etc.


Take care, Robert.

Enormous thanks for that!  And the picture is absolutely gorgeous, too.  :)

I do have a question, though I'm not sure whether you'll be able to answer it or not.  I've been trying to classify entities partially by energy types as well as behavior.  If you would happen to know what energy type or types this particularly entity is comprised of, it'd be a big help.
Identified types are:  Psi (the bulk of the human aura, an EM-like energy that seems associated with nervous system activity, fairly "light" and volatile.)
Life ("soul-stuff"...often used by martial artists, a very heavy, dense, and extremely stable energy type).
Faith (a normally short-lived energy that seems to be generated in the brain, associated with probability alteration, somewhat EM-related).
Veil (Stuff from "elsewhere"...oily, persistant, and highly mutagenic)
Collective Unconscious (broken down psi and faith energy-- becomes this when it's sitting around)
Quantum (three types, but they're hard to distinguish.  Used mainly by ceremonial magickians)
Earth (energy from the planet's field, ley lines, etc).

Angels, demons, and fae are usually comprised of a Life/Faith mix, for example.
If you're not sure, no problem--I realize that few people make these distinctions, or ever thought to pay attention to them.  An entity's behavior is usually a lot more important than what it's made of or where it came from.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

Thanks everyone for your input!  I am now certain that I have had a visit or two in the past.  I never had paralysis but I definatly felt penetration...thats when I knew that I wasn't alone.  Yikes...sn incubi - not exactly what I am looking for in a partner!  Happy travels!

I can also recall having a similar experience. It was almost like being suffocated( not breath but you'll know what I mean ), when trying to get rid of the darn thing.

My understanding of masturbation/sex is as follows. Sexual activity, whether with a partner or alone, causes the body to make chemicals and raise energy, particularly in the sub-navel and root chakras. This energy/chemical holistic state is said to be one of the most powerful healing resources known to humans, and Tantra says that this state prolonged enough brings higher levels of consciousness. In males, ejaculation shuts the chemical state down and purges the energy. In females, simply enough orgasms will cause this shutdown. When a male and female partner represent the Yin and the Yang in the sexual activity, the following is said to happen: higher levels of consciousness and energy can be attained than when alone, and this purging of energy becomes an exchange between the partners. When alone, Tantra and Dianism still work, but not as effectively as when done with a partner of the opposite sex.

Tantra has been practiced for thousands of years, and many Tantrics think the benefits are worth a lifetime of effort. There is plenty of information available online and in books.

I don't know how this relates to astral wildlife, as I mostly focus on the physical plane where I currently reside, I meaning the human named Andy. For now I'll lead a life on this plane which incorporates PPSD (when I get the book) and let my higher self be concerned with the other planes. Of course, when I succeed in a conscious exit projection, that will change and I will of course have to be concerned with Astral matters. I'd be interested to hear what Roberts thoughts on Tantra/Dianism are, if any.

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In the natural world nothing goes to waste. You have jackals, flies, vultures, bacteria, etc. If energy is being released, I wouldn't be surprised there are just as many or more creatures in the astral willing to scavange.

Succubi sound more predatory.

Overall, I have misgivings about the general mindset that masturbation is a negative act. I doubt this is true. All great apes do it. That's not exactly an excuse to offer when you get caught as a kid (I guess it depends on your parents), but it is something to think about.

As long as there has been history, it seems there have been those to prey upon sex, twisting and subverting it to empower themselves, or at least sound empowered. I for one don't give much credence to those who would say masturbation is shaking the devil's hand, or something along those lines.

I'll offer my own experiences for the group, despite the embarrassing facts because others might benefit. I've been addicted to pornography in the past, primarily via internet, but tapes/mags as well. From my experiences (and this was years back, i've since learned from my mistakes) it starts simple enough when real world physical closeness is lacking, and the visual, visceral lure of ANY sexual fantasy is readily available. The images/fantasies HOOK into the male mind much deeper and insatiably than the female mind (must be our hardwiring for spreading the seed) and the addiction takes root. From there, one finds himself thinking about sex constantly, and sexual arousal is very easy, repeatable, and unavoidable, even when one WANTS to avoid it. Female faces, genitalia, sounds, etc, become a fascination, and the proliferation of the internet allows the thoughtforms of pretty much everyone on the planet to project to a central source. This is extremely gratifying at first because it allows for fantasy fulfillment that the majority of society will never actually experience, particularly shy, withdrawn individuals who are not comfortable with the opposite (or even the same) sex. If one has ever cruised a porn site, the options are STAGGERING, i mean, really offensive in the number of sexual options for every orifice, race, color, breast size, toys, animal, etc. In fact, the amount of sexual options is so large that people who are THE MOST addicted find themselves locked to the computer, unable to tear themselves away from the influx of images.

This is addiction not unlike the craving provided by drugs/alcohol, and the two are often there at the same time. If there were a way to measure the amount of men and boys jacking off to the internet while drunk or stoned, you would be flabbergasted (and disgusted probably).

Negs weave themselves among this global abuse/misuse of sex. I truly believe that the hive mind of human sexual reality and thought projection has been inundated with energy-draining demons. I've not seen them, but i've felt them, and they lure men in (mostly men) and keep them on a short chain of mental, physical and spiritual addiction. Well, mental and physical anyway, and the SPIRIT suffers greatly, believe me.

The internet has many wonderful aspects in that it has brought the greatest insitutions of Earthly creativity, science, metaphysics and human resources into a medium that can be shared. On the downside, every human affliction, weakness, fear, pain, and inner demon is in the same place, only a few clicks away.

I am greatful for my experiences in the years since given my time to reflect and learn from the past. It was a hellacious period, and i am offering this to others who i know are going through the same problems. Even worse, i was an adult at the time, and i can imagine the number of young, adolescent boys who are just beginning their addictions. Sometimes the only way to learn is through the cathartic process of experience. One must know the Lows before one can know the Heights.

You must know the Absence of God before one can appreciate the Oneness.

Just my take.

narfellus

Sex is what you make of it. Moderation with wine, moderation with food, moderation with sex.

Yup. Moderation in all things. That little quip has more applications to life than most people realize. Hell, i'm pretty sure jerking off in moderation is okay, so long as you're not trying to store up energy for later use.

I do believe that regular masterbation is definately a wasteful activity...but isn't it also 'necessary' to be done (if not in a sexual relationship with another)?

Like when someone doesn't release sexual energies for weeks, the build-up becomes very apparent and sometimes tense. Dreams are filled with erotica and in the morning it is one of the main things on the (male) mind. I'm speaking of 20-year old male archetype.

So should it still be done, for health, or should it be ignored altogether? The recommendations on this subject have been of mixed-responses, contrary to each other at times.

You heard right runlola.

Arousal through just thinking about an erotic-situation, looking at a picture, watching a video. It's triggered pretty easily.

It is a very complex subject. Sexuality is a god-given gift to be enjoyed in moderation, like good food or exercise. I don't know what is WRONG persay about masturbation, if anything. Men are very visual and easily project images through the third eye to stimulate themselves. Most have to do this to achieve even minimal excitement, but a casual glance from a stranger can trigger it too.

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It seems the thought-forms you create while masturbating is the real issue. Thoughts are powerful & during such intense sexual energy, I would think even more powerful. You may be affecting someone or creating some porn in the astral that feeds the collective sexshop. Depending on your visualizations you could make a fetish even more powerful? Or attract a deviant spirit that feeds more of those thoughts in your head at the wrong times? Can you make your sexual fantasies pure of thought? I heard guys are very visual & have to think about something or look at something during the "exercise"

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This is where it gets tricky. Yes, i think fantasizing creates energy, and this energy in turn is sent out into the void where it resides on the astral, just like everything else. Sexual energy and thoughts are very potent, and large concentations tend to attract etheric beings that feed on them. The L.A. porn scene, for example, is filled with sexual addicts who are used and discarded by a machine-like system. The sex there is mechanical itself, and is accentuated, or even numbed, by heavy drug use (which allows stronger negs to reside).

I wouldn't worry about attracting deviant spirits unless one overindulged in sexual fantasy to the point that it became unbalancing. Gluttonous eating would be just as bad. Ceaseless gossip would be bad too in another aspect.

There is obviously a lot i don't know about it, although i have the pieces to the puzzle in front of me.

I was reading recently, i forgot where, that one theory about the craziness that often plagues superstars is due in part to the global fixation on them. Imagine MILLIONS of men and women focusing, fantasizing, and masturbating to the image of a single person. That's a lot of energy pumped to one place, to one person, and i'm sure it can have detrimental effects. American society is geared to make people more "important" than others, and it has strange results in their psyches sometimes, i'm sure of it.

Lastly, as Blackbox just referred to, NOT masturbating for a long time results in a build of unreleased energy. Undesired celibacy is not good thing i don't think. If nothing else, not knowing how your body works or keeping it "tuned up" can result in the "use it or lose it" syndrome.

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It is a very complex subject. Sexuality is a god-given gift to be enjoyed in moderation,  

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And there was me thinking it was all about ensuring genetic diversity, asexual reproduction having produced too many runts in the litter :)
Of course Creationists may hold a different view and I do keep this door slightly ajar just in case the Universe was created 10 minutes ago [:o)]

Now if you want to discuss gifts, one that would get a high ranking from me is the function of defecation, I suspect that having to regurgitate would be a somewhat odious experience :)

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This is where it gets tricky. Yes, i think fantasizing creates energy, and this energy in turn is sent out into the void where it resides on the astral, just like everything else. Sexual energy and thoughts are very potent, and large concentations tend to attract etheric beings that feed on them. The L.A. porn scene, for example, is filled with sexual addicts who are used and discarded by a machine-like system. The sex there is mechanical itself, and is accentuated, or even numbed, by heavy drug use (which allows stronger negs to reside).

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Crowley made an interesting comment, paraphased 'every act is a magical act'. I too think that we need to be aware that our thoughts and actions can have a greater than expected result.

Hmmm... I had my first (and last I hope) incubus experience last night.

But I think it 'checked me out' a couple of weeks back - I was staying at a friend's house and I had drunk alcohol for the first time in ages, both probably contributing factors?
Anyway, that morning I woke up to the sensation of being kissed...
(I was in bed alone.)
This was actually very pleasant but I was a bit wary of it and kind of mentally withdrew from it and I heard a woman's voice say 'Don't stop!' but I pulled away and then felt an energetic sensation going for my head, which triggered a kind of instinctive reaction for me to focus attention there and push it away if you get what I mean.
Then I woke up fully.
I thought about this for some days afterwards, thinking I wouldn't mind if that happened again...  but it did occur to me that this might be some form of neg.

Anyway a couple of weeks passed and last night I had a very peculiar dream...  I don't remember it all, but I think I was examining a number of strange objects.  One of them was a weird looking doll, but as I examined it, I noticed the skin was real as I touched it, then the doll's beady little eyes sprang to life, they were quite malevolent and the dolls arms got larger and spread out as if to wrap around me.  The next thing I remember was the sound of a woman groaning etc. as if she was having sex and then I woke up in sleep paralysis.

Anyway there was this black shape on top of me.  It looked like it had big horns, but that may have been a shadow on the ceiling above it's head.  I could feel slight pressure on my chest, and this (very male) voice said 'You have given me your soul.'
To which I replied 'No I ****ing haven't **** off you ****.'
Undeterred by this, the shape leant forward towards me, and I could see what looked like white vapour coming from my throat area towards it's head for a couple of seconds.  Then it disappeared as I broke the SP.

Between the first and the second experience I read PSD, and I seem to remember something about how examining objects in dreams or projections can trigger things like this.  But I didn't get the arousal that seem to be the hallmark of these things.  Trust my luck to get an incubus that's crap in bed. [:D]

I've had sleep paralysis so often now, that I was able to keep my composure through this.  But if this happened to someone out of the blue I can see it would be absolutely terrifying.

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Trust my luck to get an incubus that's crap in bed. [:D]

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LOL! Thanks for the chuckle.

egh, i 've always known that I have a man's brain when speaking of sexuality (I'm a woman btw). It's not fun anymore and I fight it as much as possible, and for the first time in years I feel ashamed for all the astral orgies that i take part in. It's amazing how strong the sexual energy is and how easily you can get fooled by it. ..hmm;(
Narfellus, how did you quit??

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egh, i 've always known that I have a man's brain when speaking of sexuality (I'm a woman btw). It's not fun anymore and I fight it as much as possible, and for the first time in years I feel ashamed for all the astral orgies that i take part in. It's amazing how strong the sexual energy is and how easily you can get fooled by it. ..hmm;( Narfellus, how did you quit??

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Good question. I think any addiction takes a long time to ultimately break, and even then one must keep constant vigilance or backslide into it. I've never taken place in an astral orgy (consciously) or a real orgy for that matter, although i have seen and fantasized to hundreds of them (and dreamed of others). The problem with Lust as a sin (and a karmic lesson) is when the spiritual aspect is removed and there is only the physical left. What happens is that the mind/spirit gets hooked into thinking that the body is the only source of pleasure, but this source ultimately fails you, leaving a huge vacuum of depression and self loathing that the negs rapidly leech onto and increase the damage.

It is a very interesting system that God has set up to create a training ground for the spirit, laying down difficult obstacles so that we can find the tools to overcome them and strengthen the spirit.

What helped me was growing and focusing on spiritual problems, and asking for help. Another way to think about it is this: your sexual thoughtforms are really astral predators that are leeching your energy away. This is energy is VITALLY important for you! And if some 2 dimensional s**tbag is using it all up, it is seriously hampering your growth.

It's all about moderation. Sex and intimacy in a loving, caring environment (and this could maybe still happen in a careful group environment with knowledgable persons) is healthy, as is feeding your body healthy food, getting plenty of exercise and sunlight and regular prayer/communion/meditation.

In the end i was tired of being controlled by thoughts that were not my own. I was not the person i wanted to be. I knew that something inside my head was controlling my bodily functions, and i had to pull myself away from it. i'm sort of in a sexual nadir in EVERY way right now, but it will pass, and the balance will return. Look at it as a growing lesson, and envision yourself learning the lesson, rather than failing, dying, and having to learn it all again.

Hello Everyone
  I stated before on this thread that it is not the masturbation that causes incubi or sucubi. The thought forms create them. It is also created when someone else purposely sends their fantasties to the one they are dreaming about. It makes it rough on both of them and the Incubi and sucubi will bounce inbetween the people.
  If you do feel you are being bothered by an incubi or sucubi do the self exorcism in Robert Bruces book PPSD. You should then not masturbate period for at least a month or more. The reason for this is you will attract the energies again.
        Nita

Does anyone know how much masturbation drains energy?  Also, has anyone had experiences w/ Incubi and the like?  What can you do to stop them from using you for your energy?  Thanks for sharing!

Just this night I had this feeling that somebody is 'intensely' thinking about me. I had a warm, uncomfortable and rough feeling between my legs and quite some urge to dissipate some energy. When I realized that this could not be to my highest good I plugged in my earplugs and gave the neg 4 hours of Beethoven, Mozart and Vivaldi. Only after a few minutes the burning between my legs, the urge and threatening images in my mind had vanished.
Even if it was my imagination that created it, playing classical music lifted it from me.
I had more attacks like these in recent times but since I let the radio play classical music in the room I do not use together within my sleeping room I don't have that strong and lasting attacks. Perhaps I am distributing 'vibrational harmony' into the air, that is poisionous to all negativity?

Greetings

EEEAK!!!!

no kidding, I can't believe this is up here...Just last night I had the worst dream ever!!!!

I've been having a lot of wierd ones, as I am pregnant and probably working out my worries as i sleep, but I was so disturbed by this one, and these are the 2 main subjects!!!!

I was holding someone else's baby...very nice, then it wanted to nurse, but it wasn't my baby...so I felt strange allowing it, but it insisted..

it started out all cute and warm and sweet, but it turned into this creature with teath that threatened to bite if i tried to stop it. then as I was there helpless with this disgusting thing on me, another adult creature climbed up the side of the bed and started to touch me all over with these creapy skinny long boney fingers and pointy nails. I was so glad to wake up...

it was horrible. Why on earth would i dream something so nasty???

But the names incubus and succubus were the first 2 words I thought of as I woke up.    very veryy creapy, i hated it. A.

so glad it was just a dream...

What helped me in such situations (and I had quite some in the past) was to burn chillies and let the room fill with its vicious smoke. Rubbing your feet with lavender oil will help too. Also, you can try to play soft classical music in your sleeping room. Either when you are asleep (you can use earplugs for an undisturbed sleep) or at least when you are not in the room you normally sleep in. Burning some strong incense sticks before going to sleep could help too.
What I found most effective is sleeping with earplugs whilst playing soft classical music. Take Beethoven or Mozart sonatas or anything else that is to your favor. I bet it won't be to 'theirs'  :twisted:

G'day!

In my opinion, the only reasonable explanation for such a dream would be that it is possible this dream was telepathically projected into your mind during sleep, to create a core image. Because of this possibility, it would be advisable to target this with the core image removal method, just in case.

If you do this, do it in full daylight hours, as this will be less creepy.

If you dont' have my book, PPSD, core image removal instructions are given in my articles section of my website.

Note, I am not saying that anything bad is happening here. My suggestion is 'just in case'. As you have no other symptoms of psychic interference, some core image work should solve things. This is also healthy action, psychologically speaking, eg, doing something positive to remove disturbing thoughts, dreams, worries, etc.  


Take care, Robert.

Quote from: sstonevenussEEEAK!!!!

no kidding, I can't believe this is up here...Just last night I had the worst dream ever!!!!

I've been having a lot of wierd ones, as I am pregnant and probably working out my worries as i sleep, but I was so disturbed by this one, and these are the 2 main subjects!!!!

I was holding someone else's baby...very nice, then it wanted to nurse, but it wasn't my baby...so I felt strange allowing it, but it insisted..

it started out all cute and warm and sweet, but it turned into this creature with teath that threatened to bite if i tried to stop it. then as I was there helpless with this disgusting thing on me, another adult creature climbed up the side of the bed and started to touch me all over with these creapy skinny long boney fingers and pointy nails. I was so glad to wake up...

it was horrible. Why on earth would i dream something so nasty???

But the names incubus and succubus were the first 2 words I thought of as I woke up.    very veryy creapy, i hated it. A.

so glad it was just a dream...

Mr. Bruce do you think it is possible for incubus to love?

I have been intimately involved with one probably since childhood but only became aware of him in 1998. I think it came from some ancient ruins that my ex-step father was exploring. I spent much of my childhood playing in these ancient gardens on the east coast of the US. That is the first place that I encountered astral beings.

A year ago when I first entered this forum as The Bard I came here trying to figure out what my astral friendly was. I do not feel like he drains my energy. I have more energy now just by leaving a toxic marriage and discovering that being without a spouse isn't so bad.

I do have photos in which he has shown up. Here is one that was taken at night on the 4th of July 2003. I was huddled in the dark in a blanket. He showed up in the photo but I am hidden in the shadows.


(http://www.sitefights.com/community/art/fairydragonsbard/incubi.jpg)

Sex entities are good at projecting thoughts, emotions, desires and images of what they think you want. And they love to take your energy. But they don't love the way we do, in my opinion. They are like insects.

Quote from: boydsterSex entities are good at projecting thoughts, emotions, desires and images of what they think you want. And they love to take your energy. But they don't love the way we do, in my opinion. They are like insects.

The same could be said about us. We suck up this living planets resources like a bunch of insects. We even swarm in cities like ants in ant hills.

My astral friend has been kinder to me than any people I have ever known. When there is trouble afoot he warns me. When danger is near he lets me know. I do not feel drained from him. I have felt comforted during times of grief. Some people have been more of a drain on my energy like my toxic family or my ex-spouse. I think people misunderstand the astral world. Just because we can access it doesn't mean we know everything about it. Everything isn't just in black and white.

Then it must be some other kind of entity, and not a incubus. Have you never seen it while APing ? It will answer you i think.

I agree with boydster nevertheless, my encounters with negs (which have thanks to God calmed down since a few months ago) have always shown me predator entities that were only interested in sending fear and sucking energy, and had a very bad feeling attached to them.

My daughter has seen it around me and describes it to me. I mostly feel its presence but whoever it is and whatever it is, it is not lacking of intelligence. My daughter says, "Mom that pink thing is around you again." When I feel his presence. She says sometimes she sees him as a orb or a small person.

An orb once led me to a stone hut at the ruins my ex-step father explored. When I described it to a writer I met named Anne Ross she called it a Will-o-wisp. I met her when I was 14. She was from Scotland and had befriended my step father over the stone ruins we found.

My health problems aren't caused by this being. I have had breathing problems since I was born. My mom smoked when she was pregnant with me. Now that I have a c-pap machine my breathing has been getting better. The surgery I need is caused by a doctors mistake from when she accidentally killed my infant son 5 years ago. The incision by my belly became a hernia. My weight gain was caused by depression over grief. Since the depression has subsided my weight is declining at a slow but healthy rate. I don't blame my bad luck on negatives, I blame it on the human condition. My problems have made me the resilient person I am. I have had a hard life but it has shaped me into an incredibly strong person.

When I got hit by a car this being softened my landing so that I didn't break any bones. When I almost died during a severe sleep apnea attack this being threw me back into my body and got me breathing again.

I have not been intimate with it lately but it still checks in on me and comforts me when I am sad. It does claim to be deeply in love with me and has learned to communicate with me. When it is around me it flashes a tiny diamond speck of light for me to notice things. It tried to warn me that my baby was still alive in me when the doctor thought he miscarried. I regret not listening to this beings warnings. At that point I thought my astral friend was some kind of delusion.

Robert Bruce's description of an incubus does remind me of one of the times my daughter described what she saw of this being once. Are all incubus negative? I think to categorize all these beings that way is like a form of prejudice. Their personalities may differ as much as humans. I meet positive and negative people all the time. Some are smarter than others. the same goes for animals too. Some of my cats have been smarter than some humans I know. As I said before "Not everything is black and white."

In my dreams he takes on the shape of a man. I have never astral projected without his help and only in my sleep. He takes me places. He once took me to see Jupiter in 1999.

Hey Runlola,

Trinity is definitely you!! Would ya stick with her for a while?

You were spooking me out with some of those other babes....

That is an interesting story about your incubus, Archnea. It does sound like you heavy karmic attributes in this life, but as you said, it has definitely made you a stronger person. As i know little about succubi i can't really give you any advice, although having sex with them regularly, from what i understand, only weakens your vitality. Then again, i'm not convinced that it is truly a succubus, maybe something more advanced.

Whatever my astral friend Saul is he keeps things interesting. I have more vitality than I did when I was with my husband. I can't say I desire a new spouse anytime soon. I have enough to deal with in my day to day stuff with my children and with trying to start a business. I love my alone time. It inspires my creative energy. Thanks for the advice. I will keep these things in mind but I do not see Saul as a lesser being. He is an equal, intelligent, and has been a friend to me.

That's what perplexes me. Is the sex demon, smart, strong, old enough to protray itself as a friend, with an ulterior motive, or is it TRULY an astral friend, an old acquaintence, a companion from long ago? The possibilites are quite lengthy. But if you feel safe for the moment Archnea, and don't feel threatened by the being, then i suppose trust your gut feeling.

Robert Bruce said somewhere that Angels and Demons are from the same 'species', so to speak, simply dark vs. light entities of the same type and same relative power.  Possibly this entity is a light type similar to a succubus in power and appearance?

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I have seen a couple of Incubus entities firsthand, and had my description independently confirmed by others. Incubus are actually quite beautiful and not scary in the slightest. They look like a cellular organism, a bit like an ameoba. If seen with astral sight, or clairvoyantly, while manifesting close to the physical dimension in real time, their true form looks to be about 18 inches to 3 feet long, oval, and they seem to be made of clear jelly. Inside they sparkle with hundreds of tiny multicoloured motes of light. At one end is an internal structure that looks a bit like a red daisy. This seems to be the rear end. It pulses with a thick red glow when it moves. Its movements are fast and jerky, much like other astral wildlife when observed with astral sight.

I masturbized extra to call sukubi.I noticed the description is similar yours.Only my astral form I ve seen was
in a royal blue electrfic color.

Quotesparkle with hundreds of tiny multicoloured motes of light

I learn how they work.
By knowing their bit-words I can stop them or experience them.I think both sides are learning of each other, if both enteties are in balanced state.

Weaker ones just send core images telepathically to the front lobe.I clear out my front lobe and I meet lot of beautiful women.
The most stronger are not core images, but music/sound loops.I draw my attention to the front lobes or 3 eye
to crack them down.

Last time I met a tiny astral life form.It was like a fly, it sit on my face some time.I am sitting quite and just observe this forms. In the fact s.e.x.= subtile energy exchange.
It is very effective combine tacticle sensation with visions during sex on astral.For my own I always had positive vibes from as I went trough this phase.-

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I was reading recently, i forgot where, that one theory about the craziness that often plagues superstars is due in part to the global fixation on them. Imagine MILLIONS of men and women focusing, fantasizing, and masturbating to the image of a single person. That's a lot of energy pumped to one place, to one person, and i'm sure it can have detrimental effects. American society is geared to make people more "important" than others, and it has strange results in their psyches sometimes, i'm sure of it.

This would occupie the artist, if this artist is a high degree demon.Another way of pay the bill.

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This was actually very pleasant but I was a bit wary of it and kind of mentally withdrew from it and I heard a woman's voice say 'Don't stop!' but I pulled away and then felt an energetic sensation going for my head, which triggered a kind of instinctive reaction for me to focus attention there and push it away if you get what I mean.

Music creates its own kingdom on astral. Check out this track:  ATB - "Don't stop"

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What helped me was growing and focusing on spiritual problems, and asking for help. Another way to think about it is this: your sexual thoughtforms are really astral predators that are leeching your energy away. This is energy is VITALLY important for you! And if some 2 dimensional s**tbag is using it all up, it is seriously hampering your growth.

Now think for what use your VITALLY.I this not definetly of being used in some way?

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t makes it rough on both of them and the Incubi and sucubi will bounce inbetween the people.

The easier way would be to face the fears and meet this person.I am still watching at puzzles, cause you know
if you sleep with a woman you sleep with ALL men, she has slept with.

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Even if it was my imagination that created it, playing classical music lifted it from me.
I had more attacks like these in recent times but since I let the radio play classical music in the room I do not use together within my sleeping room I don't have that strong and lasting attacks. Perhaps I am distributing 'vibrational harmony' into the air, that is poisionous to all negativity?

Air and water are mediums.Vibrations shifts into your brain.

QuoteNote, I am not saying that anything bad is happening here. My suggestion is 'just in case'. As you have no other symptoms of psychic interference, some core image work should solve things. This is also healthy action, psychologically speaking, eg, doing something positive to remove disturbing thoughts, dreams, worries, etc.

I experienced positive source by removing them so far.But what to do if no dream is present.Is not in such case was removed the environment in which ones mind can develop?

Wow... umm... I guess I can understand the negative aspects of the Incubus type demon... but being a virgin... summoning a strong Succubus (especially one I could see while awake) would be sweet. Are they tangible? Do they appear like humans or do they sometimes add horns?

good question ...


The differences are rtz creatures look very etherical like (near physical) and core images(i ve seen before) look like RV pictures or projected TV screens.Indeed i see more people with RV as  on RTZ.But if they are on RTZ you can talk to them.
i just was paralyzed only one time by a human on RTZ, he had a look of a transparent water zombie.
Maybe this was me, as my conscious was uploaded to physical again (and the shelter left.. astral larve??). :-?

Last time I can do an accidental projection. I realize point A awareness into space and a point B awareness.If i concentrate on both i can project in between (middle), I had a moment I levitated ca. 10 cm above out of  body,but somehow i get rejected again to physical if i get fully aware of where i am.
Have questions about horns..what meaning  can they have?Angelic/demonic creatures apperar with horns.
Is that something like our chakra system or what?

Horns are phallic symbols.

 I see this topic being viewed again and again here. I see how important it is to some of you coming here for the first time looking for answers.

When I first began to learn this practice of Aping/Phasing, I learned more about myself in general as well.

I would just get into the Non Physical proper and then a sexual thought would come to mind and the next thing I know, I am in a hot tub with 3 gorgeous babes or I would be enjoying my "safe zone", known as my tranquil beach setting and all of a sudden I would see I am next to an incredibly beautiful and sexy lady. This in turn would tend to set the theme of this session, per say. This would happen again and again until I started to reign in the mindset.

When I first began to awaken in my Dreams or in Sleep Paralysis period, I would become aware and the next thing I know, my loins have taken over and it's into some kind of sexual overtone adventure.

I know I am not the only one this has happened to, because you all keep coming back here. I'm likely the only one that wishes to state this publicly, here on this Forum at the moment though.

I have been hearing more and more stories of this awaking being pinned down by some kind of Succubus or Inccubus. All these stories state that someone were sleeping and awoken to find themselves unable to move. In most they were being pinned down by some sort of Demonic apparition, but then the Demon had unconsented/force sex on them.

To me that sounded like they awoke in Sleep Paralysis, fear set in (as does with most people unknowingly in this case), then all of a sudden it turned into a sexual encounter.
Here is a great link on Sleep Paralysis, written by a Moderator here named Bedeekin. It tells you what Sleep Paralysis is and how it's experienced.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

What  I have learned by becoming more aware of my surroundings/feelings/happenings while in SP or being in a AP/Phase is that you must learn to handle your ego, lust and any other vanities you may have.  The Non Physical is a place where you will learn to do just that. Many times you will be forced to learn that. You will learn that it is a place to "leave them all at the door", that's if you want to proceed and experience the real Marvels to be found there.

I'm sure this isn't the answer you were looking for. But it has become my truth! It's far more exciting/thrilling, to think it's a Inccubus/Succubus. It tends to sell more tickets at the box office as well.  :wink:

Thank You for listening!  :-)

Quote from: Lionheart on September 14, 2013, 00:01:10
I see this topic being viewed again and again here. I see how important it is to some of you coming here for the first time looking for answers.

When I first began to learn this practice of Aping/Phasing, I learned more about myself in general as well.

I would just get into the Non Physical proper and then a sexual thought would come to mind and the next thing I know, I am in a hot tub with 3 gorgeous babes or I would be enjoying my "safe zone", known as my tranquil beach setting and all of a sudden I would see I am next to an incredibly beautiful and sexy lady. This in turn would tend to set the theme of this session, per say. This would happen again and again until I started to reign in the mindset.

When I first began to awaken in my Dreams or in Sleep Paralysis period, I would become aware and the next thing I know, my loins have taken over and it's into some kind of sexual overtone adventure.

I know I am not the only one this has happened to, because you all keep coming back here. I'm likely the only one that wishes to state this publicly, here on this Forum at the moment though.

I have been hearing more and more stories of this awaking being pinned down by some kind of Succubus or Inccubus. All these stories state that someone were sleeping and awoken to find themselves unable to move. In most they were being pinned down by some sort of Demonic apparition, but then the Demon had unconsented/force sex on them.

To me that sounded like they awoke in Sleep Paralysis, fear set in (as does with most people unknowingly in this case), then all of a sudden it turned into a sexual encounter.
Here is a great link on Sleep Paralysis, written by a Moderator here named Bedeekin. It tells you what Sleep Paralysis is and how it's experienced.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

What  I have learned by becoming more aware of my surroundings/feelings/happenings while in SP or being in a AP/Phase is that you must learn to handle your ego, lust and any other vanities you may have.  The Non Physical is a place where you will learn to do just that. Many times you will be forced to learn that. You will learn that it is a place to "leave them all at the door", that's if you want to proceed and experience the real Marvels to be found there.

I'm sure this isn't the answer you were looking for. But it has become my truth! It's far more exciting/thrilling, to think it's a Inccubus/Succubus. It tends to sell more tickets at the box office as well.  :wink:

Thank You for listening!  :-)

This is a frustrating problem for me too.  9 times out of 10 if I meet a man in the NPR there is instant temptation and it escalates so quickly it's impossible to break away.  It's fun and enjoyable and everything but that's not what I'm in the NPR for.  I'm there for spiritual growth and to experience the mysteries, not to nurture an addiction.  Also I feel I'm being shown just how depraved I've become.  For instance (sorry to be so gross) once I had sex with a headless man.  There was blood oozing from his neck.  In the moment I didn't even care!  My sexual energy was too high and I was a slave to it.  I'm really not sure if there are demonic forces involved or not but I want to kick this habit!

Quote from: soarin12 on September 14, 2013, 18:39:42
This is a frustrating problem for me too.  9 times out of 10 if I meet a man in the NPR there is instant temptation and it escalates so quickly it's impossible to break away.  It's fun and enjoyable and everything but that's not what I'm in the NPR for.  I'm there for spiritual growth and to experience the mysteries, not to nurture an addiction.  Also I feel I'm being shown just how depraved I've become.  For instance (sorry to be so gross) once I had sex with a headless man.  There was blood oozing from his neck.  In the moment I didn't even care!  My sexual energy was too high and I was a slave to it.  I'm really not sure if there are demonic forces involved or not but I want to kick this habit!

Thank You for sharing and your honesty Soarin!  :-)

 I found it strange that my earlier NPR visits ended up with a focus on the Sex, because I am not a very sexually active person in real life. I should probably keep that quiet, lol. But, we are speaking truths here!  :-)

 But, I did find that I had to work through it and I came out the better for it. I did it by getting to the NPR, then when something of a lustful nature appeared, I said no, this is not why I came here. Becoming aware of it and stopping it, taught me how to control more than just that in the NPR. It taught me control over my actual intentions. So, I don't take it as a bad thing. Just another experience that ended with a lesson learned!  :wink:

Thanks, Lionheart.  That's very helpful.  It's encouraging to know you were able to work through it.  Actually, it's encouraging to know someone who WANTED to work through it!!  :)

This is actually a catch 22 for most men.

There is no better mental rundown for man to do than to imagine a sexual fantasy. We are pros at this and we skip very little details in our scenarios.

The drawback is that it leaves us with a very physical "problem" and this usually keeps us grounded in the physical if you catch my drift. :lol:

While we are focused and connected to a physical body, its biological specifications will provoke some emotions and thoughts, that otherwise would not occur if we are in pure spirit. Our sub consciousness is polluted so to speak, with many beliefs and emotions related to our current reality perception and characteristics. In our genes as humans there are certain things encoded that no one can escape or avoid, including emotions triggered by hormones (sexuality). They do carry over upon immediate transfer or orientation from physical to astral experiences. Those emotions and thoughts, however can be eliminated by affirmations before falling asleep and if you are intending to project. In the beginning of my practice, I was experiencing these as well, and not because I am a lust driven person lol, in the contrary, but I recognized that our human nature's characteristics will show up automatically in our astral experiences if we don't consciously control them. And I found that setting goals and doing affirmations override such spontaneous astral episodes. If you wish to experience them every once I  a while, nothing wrong with this. But it is a waste of opportunities to learn something valuable, then to obsess with physical like urges. Maybe for men is harder to reprogram their thinking, since chemistry wise they are more sexually driven. From a women's perspective, we value intimacy in a higher level, so for most women their fantasy is having sex with the person they love. For men I guess they can have sex with anyone they find attractive just for the physical pleasure. But again, this is not who we are in a higher level, so we are in a way "victims" of our biological bodies' functions. But the more inner wisdom and knowledge you receive, you find  that other things start occupying your mind more, and negative human characteristics such as ego, fears, false beliefs, etc. start to diminish.

Excellent post providing insight into a sensitive issue.
From this, one of the most oppressive actions a guy could do to damage a developing relationship is to be arrogant and self righteous. This bears no respect to whoever is actually correct. The action itself is like a gun to head with a feather trigger.
This ego is built in as said already and one of the things so hard to control. It can affect you in the NP too. The main problem is your thoughts are available to whomever the entity is your thinking of.
Using labels, the higher planes or far nicer places will be out of reach for those who cannot or should I say refuse to deal with this physical world pheromone triggered mindset.
It works for both sexes too.
Imagine for one min (in the physical) that the person who you see can read every thought you have made towards them. (you have absolutely no idea of this)
How many friends would you have and whats the likelihood of making new ones?
Correct this if necessary and you'll get far in excess on your experiences.
It's worse as you get older. The' I've got a chance' turns to 'yeah, look at him/her'.
This creates an internal anger and damages the self respect you have for yourself and others.
Thoughts