Yes, the article mentioned by Person gives an excellent description of how contemporary science is approaching a better understanding of the greater, "higher" reality. We should understand, however, that the hologram is only a metaphor to describe certain aspects of higher reality, particularly the fact that each part contains information of the whole to which it belongs. Other aspects of higher reality are not represented by the hologram. I have discussed this subject in my book "Understanding the Grand Design" which is mentioned below.
Greetings!
Jo Wolf
www.quantum-metaphysics.com
I had already read that article and it was one of those mind-expanding WOW moments.
It is possible to get a clearer, more accurate view by connecting the Holographic Universe theory with the ideas of a 4 dimensional space-time continuum (Einstein) and the ethereal plane. The WOW moment I had was the realization that the Ethereal plane Is the 4th dimencion.
This combined theory satisfies both science (quantum physics and superstrings) and metaphysics/spiritualism (out of body experiences). It has an additional (big) advantage of keeping the overall concept/theory very simple. That conservation of theories is important, especially to scientists.
The transcendant nature of the Holographic Universe, the 4th dimension of the space-time continuum and the 4th dimensional ethereal/etheric plane is described differently because of the differences in perception and points of view which gave rise to those varying theories. When looked at individually most of the theories seem to be contradictory and exclusive. Yet when all theories are viewed together it becomes clear that they use different words and terms to describe the identical plane/dimension/phenomena.
A very interesting theory that explains a lot previously unexplained. I think its more likely than normal science's explanation.
I have been researching this amazing theory for several years now. I believe I may have actually experienced part of the "implicate order" as described in the holograpgic theory. I few years back I had taken some LSD and then smoked some weed. I felt so wierd, it was very, very intense and I thought I might lose control. I felt a strong pressure between my eyebrows and thought it was "brain damage" (this was before I knew of the third eye). Anyway, I was sitting in my room trying to calm down, focusing on my breath, it wasn't working, it seemed like it was getting more intense, I sat back in my chair, looked over at another chair next to me, when suddely the chair "flickered" a few times and was suddenly made up entirely of colored, bending, interference patterns! (still in the shape of the chair)Right away it flickered again and was normal.
This same type of thing happened another time when I was on psilocybin. I was outside and I smoked some weed, felt incredibly sick, puked for 10 minutes. I got really twitchy and kept yawning over and over again, even though I wasn't tired. My eyes were closed when I was puking and I noticed the interferrence patterns again. I opened my eyes and saw more overlaped over my field of vision in the darkness. At the time I didn't know they were interference patterns, I later found out because I was looking one of those holograms you can buy at the mall. When I would turn the hologram so that I couldn't see the 3-D image I would see the these little squiggly lines which I later found out were interference patterns. (which is how holograms are made)[:O]
The interference patterns I saw looked like this: (only more tightly coiled and constantly bending and moving)
(http://texturegarden.com/samples/texture/qn3.jpg)
(http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/gen_images/bridge_light269x191.gif)
So nobody is familiar with these patterns??
This topic was also written in the latest issue of "Scientific American" which stated that the Holographic Universe, which was discovered through black holes, is a universe where matter and energy were incidental. It said that the Universe is actually made with information inprinted onto a two dimensional surface. Therefore, we percieve ourselves in a three dimensional world when this is not the case. The information is stored in "bits" the size of four Planck units. This theory also arises the issue of superstring theory and makes it obsolete saying that there is something even more basic. They also said that black holes were created when too much information was gathered in one place and the surface area could not support the amount of information, therefore, creating a gravity distortion and a finally a black hole.
P.S. We've been down graded fellas', to the second dimension, and we were so close to getting to the fourth.
Thats a load of bullcrap. Its not a 2d surface projecting a 3d volume because the observable physical universe is 4 dimensional. Time is in fact a dimension that can be measured in distance.
Maybe time is just an illusion too? I mean, just because something can be measured does not disprove this aspect of the theory. Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean?
This is a thought that I speculated on recently and is not a well thought out theory or concept. Anyway perhaps reality only exists in geometrical-algebraic dimensions. That would be 1, 2, 4, and 8 dimensions.
One dimension is linear algebra (a line).
Two dimesnions is complex algebra and a plane.
Four dimensions is quartenonic (sp) algebra and is the 4 D space-time contnuum Holographic Universe. This would be the ethereal (etheric) plane.
Eight dimension is octonian algebra. This would be the current concept of 'higher planes and dimensions and would be the astral plane.
In other words we do exist on the 2nd and 4th dimensions simultaneously. The 3rd dimension is a holographic representation of the information that our minds perceive. ([?]) [:)]
I think the fact that it explains so many "paranormal" events sugests that it IS a well thought out theory. I have read many books on it and, like I said above, I believe I have experienced it.
ellie is SO brilluint
GTP, other theories explain paranormal events as well, perhaps even better. The metaphor of the holograph is helpful but does not explain all aspects of higher reality. I believe that the Holistic Logic of Quantum Metaphysics does, as explained in my book "Understanding the Grand Design: Spiritual Reality's Inner Logic".
GTP "Maybe time is just an illusion too?"
I agree. Thats why I said "OBSERVABLE physical universe". Most things we observe physically are very distorted.
Hi JoWo !
I'll have to give your book a read at some point, as like you, I don't think the holographic theory properly explains all aspects of higher reality.
But I disagree with your point that the theory is meant only as a metaphor. As I understand it, the holographic theory says that the universe we perceive is a result of different waves of energy interacting and creating interference, just as the ripples in a pond meld together. This is very consistent with the features of a hologram.
Intriguingly, it is also very similar to the picture of "higher reality" described by Carlos Castaneda in "the art of dreaming". In the book, Don Juan says that each person is just energy, and each person has an "assemblage point" - this is the home of perception. Typically, humans have their assemblage point fixed in one position during their waking lives, and as such they share the same reality, because they are all perceiving the same energy that passes through the assemblage point. Some individuals are able to move their assemblage point, to allow different energy to pass through it. This gives them an alternate reality to perceive.
At the same time, the energy from the individual interacts with whatever that person is perceiving - hence our concept of "subjectivity".
best wishes
Mark
Hello Mark,
thanks for your comments. As I understand it, no holographic universe theory exists in the strict sense of the term. In other words, scientists have not come up with a scientific theory based on the holograph metaphor. As far as I know, there is only a general comparison of quantum phenomena with certain aspects of the hologram, mainly its capability to reproduce images of a whole scene from only parts of the hologram. This means that the whole scene is imbedded in each individual part of the hologram.
This is indeed representative of universal reality, because the "nonlocal" whole of the universe is immanent in each part. Immanent means inside but transcendent, like your soul is inside in but transcendent of yourself.
Now, to clarify what I said before, or at least what I meant to say, the hologram is only a metaphor, yet I agree with most ideas expressed loosely under what is called "holographic theory". These ideas never came together as a coherent scientific theory and the apparent paradoxes of quantum physics are still not fully understood.
Instead of the word "theory", I prefer "paradigm", which Ken Wilber used in his book, "The Holographic Paradigm and Other Paradoxes". Wilber is one of the foremost living philosophers. In the mid-80s, he coordinated contributions from many recognized experts, and here is his conclusion about the holographic paradigm, in his own words:
"It is a bad model, but I'm not sure it's even a good metaphor. The holographic paradigm is a good metaphor for pantheism . . ., but not for the reality described by the perennial philosophy".
Wilber's perennial philosophy is a consensus-type unification of world religions and philosophies. It just so happens that quantum metaphysics as described in my book comes independently to the same conclusions, using "Holistic Logic" supported by quantum phenomena and relativity theory. It also agrees with Carlos Castaneda.
Greetings!
Jo
science re-discovered and re-named something vedic philosophy has taught for thousands of years? You don't say! :P
Yes, Tab, but most scientists do not yet accept this viewpoint. As Max Planck, who initiated quantum physics, said:
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
Jo.
cheers JoWo !! I agree that "paradigm" is a much better word.
any other reading that you recommend ?
kind regards,
Mark
Thank you, Mark. Re. other reading (other than my own book [:)]), here are some that I like:
Discussions of modern physics:
John Gribbin, "In Search of Schroedinger's Cat, Schroedinger's Kittens."
Amit Goswami's books, for instance, "The Self-Aware Universe."
About multi-dimensional/spiritual communication:
Jon Klimo, "Channeling, Investigation on Receiving Information From Paranormal Sources."
Discussion of multi-dimensional reality (channeled):
Jane Roberts, "The Nature of Personal Reality" and other Seth books.
About spiritual Awakening (channeled):
Tom & Linda Carpenter, "Dialogue on Awakening, Communion With Jesus."
Bartholomew / Mary-Margaret Moore, "I Come as a Brother, A Remembrance of Illusions."
About enlightened living (channeled):
Neale D. Walsch, "Conversations With God, an uncommon dialogue." Others.
I have listed more channeled books because they describe the higher reality that I experienced better than scientifically based books. The key is to change one's point of view. Science is still based on the assumption that everything is based on physical reality, whereas all reality is based on the "Whole", that is the transcendent union of all that is. It is possible to understand the relationship between the 'whole' and its 'parts', whereupon everything falls in place beautifully – at least is did for me.
Best wishes!
Jo.
"The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light." -from the website that was posted
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Can't energy travel faster than the speed of light? I'm probably wrong but if you were to take a pencil and push it on the desk, both ends would move at the same time. If you had a -really- long pencil, one that is a light-minute long, would both ends not move at the same time or would it take a minute for the kenetic energy between the atoms to reach the opposite end? I'm just puzzeling this in my head and would like to know what you guys think about it. By the way, I'm not talking about what it would look like, if the pencil would seemingly expand or contract, but what would physically happen.
Lines, the light-minute long pencil (when pushed on 1 end) would take a minute before its other end moves any.
If you look at any fact you say to contradict the paradigm it can ultimately be connected back into the paradigm.
Does anyone else ehre think that when you close your eyes those trippy patterns of light have anything to do with this topic? I think they can be, considering the limitlessness.
Let me suggest this theory. That all the dimensions are interonnected, and without one the other wouldn't exsist. To me this is implied, but was it mentioned? *shrugs* just a thought. Dimensions can quite possibley be the order (as in order to chaos, not numbered in order) in which the information is processed from the whole giant spectrum of info that can possibley sprout from the 1st dimension. perhaps in order to understand any higher dimensions we have to move backward and realized the 1st dimension.
Here is my theory about dimensions:
They are a structure within some other structure. For every physical object or region of curved space that anybody or anything has ever paid any attention to, a "node" (arbitrary name) exists. Any node can be connected to many other nodes. Nodes have no position because they dont exist in a dimensional space. Nodes are usually connected to adjacent (from our view) nodes, but can be connected to any node (quantum entanglement). In (almost) flat empty space, they are connected in a grid shape. It takes a constant amount of time for something (like a photon) to get from one node to any node it is connected to, the speed of light. Time is where 1 group of nodes (the present) connectects mostly to an other group (the immediate future). Each "time" mostly connects to the next time. Nodes can connect to the past, future, astral, or different timeline. If they connect to the past (for example) the future would change. The future must change which could change the connection of the node in the future that connects to a past node. This causes the timeline to change many times. If each change is smaller than the last change, it will converge to a single timeline. If it doesnt, I dont know which of these will happen: the future-past node cant exist, or a new local (partial) timeline is created.
Edit: I forgot the most important part:
Nodes are connected (or created?) to what our spirits think about. I dont know most of the physics of these connections.
The holographic universe idea seems a good addition to our mental picture of reality. Like all ideas, it isn't an absolute. Sometimes I feel we are like the blind men and the elephant, each touching a part of the whole and theorizing on what we can grasp. You, my friends, are like a light in the darkness so I can see a bit more.
John
sweet I love arguing about this stuff,
that vedic philosphy where we're just like antennas swimming in a sea of frequencys, and these freequencys form into nodes, and create interference patterns
fractal infinite interference patterns,
everything is one and one is everything,
its really messed up shite, plus taoism, where the "light" ki settle above to form the heavens and the "dark" heavy ki is physicall structure,
everything is in crazy layers, its like a big oozing mass of infinite possibilities, that is somehow controled by another order of infinite to become coallesced into some pre-defined, constinually defined, always defined structure, like how crystals form
we pick up the "differences" of the patterns in our head, but we only select certain frequencys,
i think our brain is the only computer capable of calculating infinite,
i think we percieve our world as it is, because it is simplistic, and provides a comfort,
plus sacred geometry? the fibonacci (SP?) numbers, prime numbers,
so much to contemplate so little time
I read a article about the theory...(I found it on this site:-)) but this articles only describes what the theory can explain. But tell me...what part of this very interesting theory explains the spiritual?
A long time ago someone in India (i think) said: "Everything is light" People have tryed to understand this but were unable to untill now. Now we can say, yea that guy was right everything is light, everything is a hologram. But this is not totaly true. Everything is light not becouse it is a big hologram but becouse it is made of energy. Matter which we precive is a condens and very packed form of energy which we can see and feel as our monitor, keybord, mouse and other objects. Scientists have discovered that everything on a quantom level is energy and so they proved that everything is light (and light is energy which we can see). Another theory from my favorite school of spiritual development (Huna) states that everything is interconcected with infinite number of aka threds (little spiritual ropes that conect everything to everything else) This would agree with the hologram theory, everything is a part of one big universe. Our universe is like the Earth itself. By observing what is around us we will easyly understand the very essenc of our existance. We, people and other "physical things are like the peeps of mountains. We look aroud and see that everything is seperate. We do not look down becouse we are unable to and so we do not see other parts of our existance, we only see that we are all seperate. To look down we need to do much work and even then we will feel the reality for what it is. We will not see nor will we clearly feel it with our sences. We will first see it with our minds and then faintly feel it with our spirits. Then under the peaks, Huna (and other schools) teaches that there is a perfect reflection of the "physical" world. A perfect reflection, that means that there is a helthy, undamaged image of everybody and every object. This "underpeek" is like the whole image that every part of the hologram contains but unfortunatly sometimes the "peak" hologram sometimes degrades (this part also allows us to understand how instant healings happen, the physical image is compared in some whay to the phantom blueprint and then it is instantly corected, IF there is enough evergy)
Under that leyer of reality are deeper ones which we can't precive too much becouse as the "peeks" of reality we can't look down.
Underneath it all is the core image, the master hologram which was described in "The Holographic Universe" theory. This is not GOD, althe some may think it is. Just like the hot core of Earth sustains the whole surface of the planet in the state as we see it now, so does the master-hologram sestain the whole reality. Acording to some schools it is the will of the ultimate GOD that susteins the whole universe in existance and all the rules that govern it. This would also explain why the ancient kahunas believed that one can't reach the ultimate GOD, but insted one needs to comunicate with his higher self (a part of his own spirit which is a step bove us, or a step below if we look at it from the peek theory point of view.
But anyway. The hologram theory and all others are just that theorys, their efectivnes will be the mesure of their truth. These theories cant change the very essence of the universe becouse there is an unobjectiv reality, but becouse everyone is an individual we can not see this unobjectiv reality, we can only see the objectiv reality becouse WE look at it, and it is put threw our own mental filters befere we observ it.
"The Holographic Universe" can only give us a diferent perspective on the universe which allows us to bring our objectiv image of the universe closer to the unobjectiv universe which exists beyond ourselvs. The more perspectivs we have the better we understand what is going on and so we can make better choices and be more effectiv.
Many people have come to this conlusion (by means similar or diferent from my own) and they concluded that individuality is an illision. There is nothing that is more wrong then that. INDIVIDUALITY is NOT an illusion, it is as real, or even more then the physical plin of existance. It is like assuming that one is a part of the sea becouse one is swimming in it.
If something that I wrote is a little hard to understand please tell me I will be happy to explain if I can.
Hello Adkha,
The 'holographic universe' is not an established scientific theory but an attempt to coordinate modern scientific results into some unified thought system. Please read my second post on the 1st page (21 June 03) and my last post, 1st page (06 Aug. 03). In the holographic paradigm the connection with the spiritual is only implied without an actual explanation. For a direct connection between modern science and spiritual reality, please check out the following website.
Hello zaicer,
Many explanations of cosmic reality are possible, depending on one's point of view, and your description is a good one for you and others who have a similar mindset. I would only like to expand on your last paragraph because it could lead to misunderstanding.
Whenever we make a statement about reality, we must define our point of view because reality appears differently from different viewpoints. When you say, zaicer, that "INDIVIDUALITY is NOT an illusion", you speak from the viewpoint of an individual. For us individuals, the entire cosmos is a collection of "individual' items, such as people, stars, atoms, and mosquitoes. However, the 'master-hologram' has no divisions and therefore no individuals at its level of existence. Therefore, a person who is Awakened to ultimate reality will say that individuality is an illusion. Both statements are correct from their different points of view.
Jo.
there are 3 dimensions to the physical universe, x, y and z. some will claim that time is the 4th dimension but no one can agree on this.
A very worthwhile read. Basically a scientific explanation of how the physical universe is an illusion.
http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html
I recently read somewhere that some physicists think that our universe is 5 dimensional. XYZ and the 4th material dimension comes into play when you approach the edge of our universe. Instead of hitting a "wall" you simply keep on going and come out on the other side of it, and 5th time dimension.
I'm pretty sure this theory is the theory that most scientists subscribe too in their modern day understanding of the universe. in that book i keep mentioning by Barbara Brennan, a physicist who worked for NASA for 5 years, she gives an overview of the modern view of reality that science holds at present, starting with Newtonian building blocks and continuing on through the most recent discoveries. It's absolutely fabulous. I think the main point she stressed with the theory is just that ever piece is the whole, like a hologram, each part contains all parts. Anyway...this is me recommending the book again. "hands of light" Barbara Brennan...very highly suggested!
no disrespect intended to any attempts to describe anything with words. i understand the desire to have another person comprehend and perhaps agree, in words, to a proposed idea. honestly though i think we exist and that is enough. since i am a piece of existence i know how matter is, time is and so on, because i am it, but i might not be able to have an agreement with another person about it. this is a simple idea but still the string theory is supposedly simple too (ive only read a little).of course all is one and yet many. four tires (four distinct items) are part of one car (one unit). the wording of it can make them seem very different. also by looking at the tires (tread size, rim size, tread depth, tire construction) you can tell many things about the car(what kind of car, how much the car has driven on those tires, where it has been driven, and were it was made). the task seems to be coming up with the right words to describe it to another person(s) and have them agree with you. who's with me!!!!joking but still i think a streamlined theory with relatively simple metaphors until proper units of measurement are found is a great way to advance in descriptions of being....or you could just be since we seem to be quite adept at traveling and manipulating different parts of existence
It's interesting to see how science starts to come closer to the spiritual teachings. It reminds me of one channeled material in which it stated something along these lines:
"..and when the scientists dig deep enough to the quantum physics, then they will find god staring back at them under their microscope"
The holografic universe article reminded me of this, because it said that even the tiniest parts are just miniatyre versions of the whole.
The channeled article also stated that all roads lead back to god, so it really doesn't matter if you are a scientist or a mystic. It's just a different perspective of the same thing. I myself like the mystic way more, because there you can experience things firsthand and you don't have to buy a gigantic telescope or install a particle accelerator to your living room..
ive had ideas about existence being somewhat circular as a graph, as in the largest large is the smallest small, like if a galaxy is also a single particle, like 0 and 360, smallest and largest. snake eating its own tail etc. its all real and connected. like spiritual teachings are for the body and mind to navigate with, and science for machines, for us to use, all connected.
Recently an article was published in a special edition of Scientific American magazine that talks about some more amazing ideas emerging from the field of physics. Have you guys heard about them? What is fascinating is how complementary they are with ancient spiritual texts.
Not only do these theories suggest that the universe is nothing but information, they say that it's 3D appearance is in fact a profound illusion. Blackhole and entropy theory are leading scientists to believe that in reality the universe is somehow written on a 2 dimensional 'surface'.
Here is a link to the article. It is simple enough to digest.
http://www.crystalinks.com/holouniverse1.html
Once you've got your head around that compare those ideas with this stanza from the Ribhu Gita, an ancient Indian text that exhaustively states the illusive nature of reality. Because of its repetitive nature and adherence to the absolute it is said to be 'as good as samadhi itself'! A bold statement, I know. But check it out for yourself.
Of this world, which is an illusory superimposition on
Consciousness,
There is nothing real or unreal.
It is only the substratum, which is the not-to-be ignored Reality,
That appears as the imaginary reality of superimposition.
If the imaginary reality is inquired into,
it is seen to be undoubtedly of the Reality of the substratum.
substratum: a layer beneath the surface soil;
Stratum: 1 : a bed or layer artificially made
2 a : a sheetlike mass of sedimentary rock or earth of one kind lying between beds of other kinds b : a region of the sea or atmosphere that is analogous to a stratum of the earth c : a layer of tissue <deep stratum of the skin> d : a layer in which archaeological material (as artifacts, skeletons, and dwelling remains) is found on excavation
4 : one of a series of layers, levels, or gradations in an ordered system <strata of thought>
Advancement's in scientific research labs in the world are building a clearer picture probing deeper and deeper into the fabric of all that we are and what surrounds us.
All this processed data makes me wonder that numbers are an indespensible part of our creation
like pi, goldern ratio, plancks constanst e.c.t
Is calculating a man made concept or has our observations on earth and the solar system led us
to start utilising remnants of a creator's handbook?
mmmm it all comes back down to consciousness and locating internal thoughts thats were the genie resides.
Quote from: JeromesimRecently an article was published in a special edition of Scientific American magazine that talks about some more amazing ideas emerging from the field of physics. Have you guys heard about them? What is fascinating is how complementary they are with ancient spiritual texts.
Not only do these theories suggest that the universe is nothing but information, they say that it's 3D appearance is in fact a profound illusion. Blackhole and entropy theory are leading scientists to believe that in reality the universe is somehow written on a 2 dimensional 'surface'.
Here is a link to the article. It is simple enough to digest.
http://www.crystalinks.com/holouniverse1.html
Once you've got your head around that compare those ideas with this stanza from the Ribhu Gita, an ancient Indian text that exhaustively states the illusive nature of reality. Because of its repetitive nature and adherence to the absolute it is said to be 'as good as samadhi itself'! A bold statement, I know. But check it out for yourself.
Of this world, which is an illusory superimposition on
Consciousness,
There is nothing real or unreal.
It is only the substratum, which is the not-to-be ignored Reality,
That appears as the imaginary reality of superimposition.
If the imaginary reality is inquired into,
it is seen to be undoubtedly of the Reality of the substratum.
substratum: a layer beneath the surface soil;
Stratum: 1 : a bed or layer artificially made
2 a : a sheetlike mass of sedimentary rock or earth of one kind lying between beds of other kinds b : a region of the sea or atmosphere that is analogous to a stratum of the earth c : a layer of tissue <deep stratum of the skin> d : a layer in which archaeological material (as artifacts, skeletons, and dwelling remains) is found on excavation
4 : one of a series of layers, levels, or gradations in an ordered system <strata of thought>
The image of our third dimension on a two dimensional surface is more a tool for us to visualise a fourth (or more) dimension(s). It holds no greater reality than mathematical imaginary time - it's a tool to allow our brains to concieve of an idea rather than stating we exist on such a surface.
Very interesting article.
As always, it seems that ancient religions did know all of this before our science. The reference about "maya" is very good, it was a giant tarantula like creature which captured people with its web.
If we examine carefully some myths we always find female like beings playing evil roles when they rule some materialistic features. In fact, if we are more elevated beings we should avoid earthly things and treat them as illusions created by our own physical minds.
I imagine myths took female figures because women are the door to Earth. Remember the old witches trying to defeat the courageous cavaliers or cheating the beauty princesses. It's like if Earth would be wicked if we don't understand it correctly, but suddenly it becomes a new unlimited universe when we understand its roots.
Anyway I read in the cabalah that every sefira contains all the others in itself, so the first one (kether, the crown) contains essentially all the other sefiras till malkuth (the Earth). This theory coincides with that of electrons' memory.
Unless it seems there's no limitation in our being there must be someone. Those will be the so called veils that fall as you evolve your mind (the three veils of Isis?).
Thanks for posting such a good articles.
Interesting that this topic has resurfaced after lying dormant for several years.
A personal coincidence or synchronicity.?
Carl Jung postulated that 'coincidences' that are too profound and unlikely to be the product of random chance alone are caused by something powerful in the 'collective subconscious.'
Michael Talbot, the author, dealt with this subject in his book "The Holographic Universe'
And I just began reading 'The Holographic Universe' (for the first time) a few days before this topic was resurrected :exclamation: :question: :idea: :question:
I thoroughly enjoyed "The Holographic Universe"!
If you like Quantum Physics, then check out the DVD "What the bleep do we know". It's a documentary with a little drama thrown in to keep it interesting.
I played this DVD when I had some friends over to the house. At first they were reluctant to sit through it but after it was finished, we had the most lively and invigorating discussion as to what we watched! Everyone loved it!
does an "illusion" need something "real" to compare it too or define it by.
what does it mean "to live in an illusion"
illuminate me
is spiritual immortality an illusion,and can we terminate spiritual Immortality?
can we determine an immortal spirit?