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Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on April 19, 2002, 12:47:56
This happens for me, too. It is mood dependent for me. When I'm relaxed, calm, and my concentration is good then the sky sometimes looks like it has lights in it. They move. A friend of mine told me that seeing these can develop into seeing shapes rather than just dots, but that there was no benefit to doing so. What I'd thought was that this was what the earlier posts on orbs was about, but it wasn't clear because these are more dots than big orbs.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Mobius on April 27, 2002, 03:40:47
Hi guys

Yes this sounds like one of our earlier posts,& the things we were talking about were like little sparks or stars or little bubbles winking in & out of existence,not sure what it is,must be an explanation.

Good journeys

Mobius

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: bitsmart on April 28, 2002, 00:10:09
I've been wondering about this phenomenon for about a year now. Only recently did other people start commenting on it, which is better from before when all I got in response is "what the heck are you talking about?" Here's my take on it...

I think it's definitely energy related, and it seems to get more pronounced when drawing energy. Eyes open, it is seen as an overlay on the vision. Sometimes it even distorts what I see very slightly. Eyes closed, it looks completely different. This phenomenon is probably third-eye related, possibly pertaining to clairvoyance? In my experience, the frequency and strength of it has increased in the past year of my spiritual development, from when I first noticed it.

If ANYONE knows what this is, I wanna be the first to know.

bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on April 28, 2002, 10:33:26
Are we seeing energy that is out there, outside of ourselve? Or are we seeing energy that is in our bodies that just happens to be circulating through the eyes and / or the optic nerves?


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: SteppenWolf on April 28, 2002, 20:59:26
I might do some more research on it.  I must say that I feel quite elated when I see the sparkles as it's such a crazy effect.  

About the bubbles or squiggles though, I am pretty sure that it's dust or something on the eye.  Thing is, when I see a squiggle when looking at the sky - I look at another cloud and the squiggle always follows.  So it's not external - it's something in my vision.  Bit like a spider on a telescope or something.  I'm really surprised that so many people claim that they're something else.  

But the sparkles are quite different and take a bit of focusing to see.  I will try to see if I can enhance the vision and will try some energy raising too - thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
SteppenWolf
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on April 30, 2002, 08:25:36
This is something mentioned in an explanation I once saw of how to start learning to see auras. The advice was to go outside, relax, lie down and look up into the sky. Around trees is good, too.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Shirley on May 03, 2002, 02:58:12
Hi Everyone,

I read with interest your various takes on 'splarkly vision'... I don't see this anymore - at least not like I did as a child. As a child, at night in my bed I would see blotches of primary colours of stars and moons come pouring into the window and disintegrating into the darkness of the room if my mum left a little window open. I was six at the time (I remember my age because of the house we lived in then). My twin sister would sleep soundly but asked me to waken her when they came into the room again. One night I did and she saw them but just when straight to sleep again - she liked her sleep! So were they objectively 'out there'? I think so. I think subtle things are everywhere if we can learn to increase our perceptions and awareness. However our intentions/perceptions  seem to affect outcome also - so it is not so straightforward - which is why we all experience reality so completely differently. But isn't opening our perceptions ans awareness essential in understanding what it's All about?

Over time - and I cannot remember when exactly but long ago - these shapes turned into colours around people. I began to 'see' people's 'atmosphers' (as I called it as a child). The same textures and the colours increased from purely primary colours to subtle varieties of colour which is what allows me to understand the nature of what I am seeing. Unfortunately I cannot do this at will. I need a plain background and a certain relaxed focus. However I delight in this gift when I can see other auras.

I am no expert but I just wanted to say that I do think these colours that you are seeing have a relevance to 'clear seeing' ... and help us to realize that there is more to life than what ordinarily 'meets the eye' :-)

Warmest wishes,
Shirley

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: SteppenWolf on May 16, 2002, 06:02:02
Perhaps I found the same aura training you were talking about, Tom.  It;s at the start of world-renowned healing guru Barbara Brennan's book "Hands of Light".  I've been moderately interesting in the idea of seeing auras for a while but it just seemed too damned hard to see anything which was meaningful.

Note that Barbara says that the dancing dots in the sky are one of the easiest phenomena to see in nature, and that they're not sylphs, but small "sparks' (my word) of orgone energy.  Looking at the way they moved in quick spirals and zig-zags, it did seem unlikely that they were spirits of any kind - and as they are always so evenly space out.

Anyway I finally tried Barbara's idea this afternoon.  The first step was to see all the dancing points of light in the sky on a sunny day (looking away from the sun of course).  Seems it's a bit easier if I cup my hands around my eyes so I can only see sky and no other distractions, eg trees etc which I might focus in on.  After about 20 or 30 seconds I saw them - all squiggling around like crazy.  They are bright dots which travel in bizarre squiggly patterns, spread out fairly evenly all over the sky.  I just kept looking at them enjoying the view and allowing myself to get more in tune with seeing them so that they got slightly brighter and clearer.  Every time I blinked it took a second or so to get them back again but that was ok and pretty normal.

Then the next step was to bring my focus down to a point in the sky just above a tree in the back yard, which I did.  Then as I was looking at the sky I could see out of my peripheral vision a distinct light blue haze appear above the upper leaves of the tree!   I knew to only try seeing it out of my peripheral vision from other things I'd read.  So that was cool!

Then I tried to see the dots of energy in the sky more clearly - and then I noticed that not only was there a light blue band around the tree top, but my hand (which I was cupping around my eye) suddenly had this hazy thin dark blue line around it.  Freaky!  

I won't read too much into all this but I am going to practice more tomorrow and if the results hold up I'll be making a web page on it with images showing what it all looks like and the easiest way to do it.

Cheers!
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: xanaxjj on June 27, 2002, 11:08:33
i have experienced these little dots you speak of... but you say they are when you look up at the sky.. however i have seen them in other areas as well.. i think maybe we most notice them in the sky because it is the most readily available, relatively clear background, and i think some sort of background plus good light makes it easier to see them... i hate to poke anyone's bubble, but both the stationary and moving dots and squiggles seem, to me, to be just miniscule particles on the surface of the eyeball.. or inaccuracies in our vision itself.   but, hey, you never.. ever.. know... also i always notice a kind of static over everything i see.. if i choose to notice it... easiest to see on blank walls and in the dark.. kind of like tv static, but more fine grained..  i think it could just be a part of how we physically see..   ????

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Mobius on June 27, 2002, 22:01:28
These things we see that have been described as dancing dots or sparks require a slightly out of focus vision for me to see, a bit like the way you re-focus your eyes to see 3D objects in those 3D posters you see around.
Definately not just the bits of dust & specs of hair etc. that covers the eyes & appears stationary while the eyes are not moving, then follow your eye movements when you look elswhere.

These things have erradic flight almost like tiny insects, but seem to wink in & out of existence, like being at the movies & seeing dust pass through the light path of the projector, except instead of just moving with air currents they can create their own momentum, strange but beautiful.

All the best on your journeys

Mobius

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: jilola on July 02, 2002, 11:54:44
If you mean the squiggly, slightly transparent, wormlike thingies then they are internal to the eye caused by for example cholesterol in the eye or sometimes.

Jouni

BTW: This is NOT to taken as medical advice. I'm not an MD.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on July 02, 2002, 13:50:38
The eyes can focus easily up close or in the distance, but it is hard to focus them on both something on their surface and on things in the distance like trees as the same time. When you focus up close the things in the distance become fuzzy. When you focus in the distance, things closer become fuzzy. If the strange objects, dots, squiggles, and patterns are on the surface of the eye then they should not appear in focus while objects in the distance are also in focus.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: jilola on July 02, 2002, 20:46:53
The ones I'm talkiing about are inside the eyeball. And they go slightly blurry when focusing on something but crossing one's eyes brings them to focus. They have a multi-cell like appearance swith nuclei and all. Kind of nice to watch when bored but sometimes annoying.

Jouni
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on July 02, 2002, 20:58:28
Those are something else. I've seen those, too, and am reminded of bacteria in a good microscope. What I had been talking about looks usually like clearly defined, small sharp points of light. They literally look like they are glowing, and are always in a distance.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: jilola on July 02, 2002, 21:44:29
Ah, now I know what you guys mean. Tiny little dots, sometimes pure white sometimes different colors? I get them too when I look at an evenly colored surface. It doesn't seem to matter what the color is except that against a dark background I tend to get more white dots than colored ones.
Some of the dots are actually quite big, winking in and out of existence like flashlights in a stadium.

Jouni
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: quant on July 14, 2002, 10:05:33
OK.  This has only ever happened to me twice, and the last time was today when i was in the shower.

I saw this topic and thought i would have a look.

Now, i know your eyes can see things, blind spots etc.  Mine are different from what you all have described.

It's like, i was looking at the wall, and i could see these bright brilliant white dots flying around in little circles, almost like flies flying around infront of me.

That's about the best i can describe it.

At the moment, i am putting it down to my eyes messing me around.  But you never know, as you can see auras with just your plain eyesight.

Someone get back to me as what they think it might be please.  Ta.

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on July 14, 2002, 10:09:05
You are seeing energy. The more energy you have at the moment, the easier it is to see energy. The more energy there is to look at, the easier it is to see. I think. Recently I found the idea that at some point there can be so much energy as to be difficult to see again. There must be a range of combined energy through which it is easiest to see. Perhaps you can use your mind or breathing or visualization or intent or whatever other tools you might have to reach out and pull in those dots of glowing energy.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Mobius on July 16, 2002, 04:32:09
G,day Tom

It does look like tiny specs of energy & I have noticed also that there seems to be places you can see it easier. I live next to a national park & when I walk out near the trees I can see them quite easy & even demonstrate them to every person I've shown, but when I'm in town or even on the outskirts of it, there's an increasing difficulty.

I'm sure if we lined all the people up in here to show what they are talking about, it would be the same thing. It seems to be in abundance on the astral & when & if you get the chance to see your silver cord, the insides of it seems to be comprised entirely from these same little sparks.

In many OBE books they talk about one of the forms of body you can manifest into upon projection, "the point of consciousness", loosely described as a small spec or dot, (remember we are not talking about dust on your eye here).

I re-read some of the notes on SRI again recently & discovered a part where Ingo Swann describes seeing "Ionized particles" which formed into objects, while on his astral journeys. This is a very similar if not the same thing we are talking about here, but in the physical & they don't form into objects, well not that we know of......................yet.

We are all stars it seems, good journeys.

Mobius

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: travrai blue robes on July 16, 2002, 09:23:45
they are like little atoms of light smashing against each other. it might be an ocular phenomenom since I can see it very strongly all the time, and when I shift my head, what I'm seeing stays with my head, not with what I was looking at. I believe it's known medically. I think the main cause is staring at a very bright light source, i.e. sky, causes some feedback in the optic nerves. stare at a computer screen for a minute in a dark room and then look at the dark, bright light definitely overwhelms the visual system. are there spiritual relations to it? possibly, well there are spiritual relations to everything, I just don't know exactly where they lie with this one

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tom on July 16, 2002, 09:36:03
It might start out by being of a physical cause, but it doesn't have to stay that way. The physical cause can be a training device to see energy. The bright dots really do seem to be energy to me. It is possible that they are in the eyes and glowing because of the eyes being full of light anyway. That does not explain why they can be so sharp and in focus while objects in the distance remain in focus also. Afterimages due to depletion is a possibility. I have seen it argued that all seeing of auras is actually afterimages, but again I think that afterimages are a training aid to see auras. The dots of light I see are in motion, though, and a depletion of chemicals in the receptors of my eyes does not seem enough to explain it. In any case, many of us see the dots and we have all put in thoughts here on what they are. Does it really matter exactly what they are? So far no one has posted about using them for anything, even training for further things.


Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: quant on July 17, 2002, 21:26:06
Tom.

I don't know if anyone has actually used this energy for furthering their abilities, but, i feel that seeing this is actually an indicator that you are improving with your energy development, so maybe there is benefit from seeing it.

As for seeing it from the suns glare or something.  In my case, not so in the slightest.

I went into the bathroom, got into the shower, then there were were, extremely bright, whizzing around, and like Tom said, they have a very sharp look to them.  If you look at the sun, then look at the wall, you will see the suns image, but very hazzy.
The white things i saw were sharp in focus.  When i looked at them, they buzzed around, one by one vanished.  It lasted about 10 seconds.  That morning i hadn't looked at the computer screen or i hadn't looked at the sun.
Heck, i hadn't even looked outside into the day light.  lol.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: lucid dancer on July 18, 2002, 03:26:17
It seems like what you were experiencing could have been caused by light headedness  ...If you were looking at these sparklies, and watched them disapear in ten seconds.  That's what that reminded me of anyway.  Seeing those is like watching bugs (of light) flying around. Theres no pattern to them and they remain in front of your face, when you turn your head.  The sparklies that some of you are talking about seem to have a geometrical pattern to them, seen in the sun light and don't disappear in seconds.   I've had this experience many times. I haven't found an explanation for them, but that's ok.   Also, when I say that they appear in the sun light, I mean that I'm usually outside or looking at things that the sunlight is hitting. I don't actually look into the sun.   Ouch!

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: alfa_33au on July 23, 2002, 23:23:46
This site is like a bit of a sanctuary.
I love those sparks, give a eurphoric momentary feeling for me.

The sqiggly electrical, more gold colour than white, like the sparks, i have encountered in obes.  

Hmm, dont know what they mean.
Paola
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Zebrima on July 31, 2002, 09:35:01

I am also seeing different types of "flying dots" in the air and I would like to divide them into two groups:

Group one are independent, clear spheres, that are very lively and move rather fast and unpredictably in the air. They sometimes bounce into one another, but don't seem to follow any specific pattern or be bound to each other. They have no color, expect maybe white, but I would like to describe them as transparent, tiny spheres. I can't see them anytime or anywhere, but when I do see them, it´s usually in bright sunlight, either through a window or outside. I´ve been able to see these spheres for about 3 years. They don't "follow my vision", that is, if I look somewhere else, I usually won't be able to see them.

Group two are different energy dots. They travel in groups and are either blue and red, evenly mixed, or all white. They move slower than the spheres and their positions seem to be fixed within the group. The move in rather small oval shaped formations, about one foot wide or maybe less. I can see them anytime and anywhere, but it´s easier inside buildings and in areas that are not to bright. At night the colors almost seem like glowing in the dark. I've been able to see these dots for as long as I can remember, I was about 4-5 years old the first time I mentioned them to my parents. They thought it was all fantasies.

I'm not sure what either of these flying energy dots are. It is energy alright, but I would like to know more about them. I sense they have some kind of purpose or interesting information or meaning, but I'm not sure what although I have some theories and thoughts about it. I would like to know if anyone else is able to see the same kind of energies that I've described and if anyone has an explanation for them?

Love & Light,
Zebrima

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Penfold on August 04, 2002, 12:08:08
I only see the dots clearly against the sky and they look like insects buzzing around or bacteria as someone said, it doesnt take me any focusing to see them they're just there.  They are white though with no different colours.  It might be from looking at the sky as I juggle a lot and obviously have to look up to see the things I'm juggling!I am trying to learn to see auras but I've always seen these things before I ever knew about OBE's etc., so who knows!I wish I could see the "group 2" dots as Zebrima mentioned because it would look much cooler!
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: quant on August 04, 2002, 17:28:29
I was talking to a good friend of mine, and mentioned to him what i was seeing.

He asked me when i saw these flying points of light.  I told him as i just under the shower and the water sprayed on me.  He told he me had assumed that this was when i saw them.  This was his explanation.

He told me that the light i was seeing my bio-electric field.  And that the reason i saw this is because when i went under the shower it stimulated my chakras, and i was able to see part of my "non-visible" self.  He explained that it was just light, and that was the reason that when i put my fingers out to touch it, that is why, you can't directly touch light.

Anyways, i was happy with what he told me.  And i will definatly keep my eye out for them in the future.

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Nimzomyth on August 05, 2002, 00:15:27
What you guys seem to be seeing is energy as Tom says.  This was described by Reich as Orgone Energy.  I have been seeing this for a good few years now.  At first it got me worried.  I asked a doctor and an optician what it was and they didn't have a clue.  It was only when someone pointed out that Reich had identified it as a kind of "energy of magic" that I was relieved.  I would say that seeing it is definately a good sign.  

This is a description of what I personally see -

Seen best on a white wall or by looking up at clear sky, these dots or stars move in a regular pattern, appearing and disappearing.  Some have described them as electric tatpoles.  Sometimes when concious of them they seem to blur or create and aura around what I am looking at.  They are not floaters.  Floaters are like a grey smudge that follows the eye as it moves.  I hope this helps

Nimzomyth

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Nimzomyth on August 05, 2002, 00:17:11
What you guys seem to be seeing is energy as Tom says.  This was described by Reich as Orgone Energy.  I have been seeing this for a good few years now.  At first it got me worried.  I asked a doctor and an optician what it was and they didn't have a clue.  It was only when someone pointed out that Reich had identified it as a kind of "energy of magic" that I was relieved.  I would say that seeing it is definately a good sign.  

This is a description of what I personally see -

Seen best on a white wall or by looking up at clear sky, these dots or stars move in a regular pattern, appearing and disappearing.  Some have described them as electric tatpoles.  Sometimes when concious of them they seem to blur or create and aura around what I am looking at.  They are not floaters.  Floaters are like a grey smudge that follows the eye as it moves.  I hope this helps

Nimzomyth

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: fredhedd on August 20, 2002, 04:43:36
i believe i have an explanation for some of the "stars". i have seen the ones that were described as the ones from being lightheaded. i don't know if they are the same ones i am about to describe.

i'm 23 and i have done a fair amount of lsd, and other various drugs. anytime that i do anytype of drug and close my eyes i can see what appear to be milllions of tiny points of white light coming at me. it appears as though i m travelling through space.

now if i m tripping or on some other kind of drug less of a hallucinagenic effect, and meditate, then these "stars" start coming faster and eventually they all start to swirl in a clockwise motion. not each individual star but the entire view .to be compared w/  looking up at the night sky and spinning around fast.

the times that i hvae stuck w/ the meditation or have done nitrous at the same time the swirling gets so fast and tight that it appears to suck in al of the stars to what looks to be a center. when they get to the closest point to this center, all of the stars have come together to form a tubelike structure.

after a few seconds there is a rushing wind sound along w/ musical tones. i m flying through this tube at incredible speed and can see geometric patterns on the inside of the tube,along w/ colors to match.

in astral dynamics this is described as a gateway to one of the planes. this was the experience that i had that has brought me to where i am today. i was curious about waht this was and went to the bookstore to look around. i picked up astral dynamics and happened to flip to the page taht had "tubelike structures" at the top. i bought the book.

i went through a stage where i experminted w/ drugs for about a year . when i m sober, which i have been for over a year now, i can still see these stars cmoing at me. the more i meditate the more i can see them. i can also see them very clearly w/ my eyes closed or in a very dark room.i have not been able to get these stars to conform to the tubelike structure w/out the use of drugs.

i have not been able to get to the end of the stucture, i think because there is no end. i havent experimented w it for a while mainly because i m intot he energy raising techiniques in astral dynamics.

i can still see them today but i don't make a huge deal about it like i used to because now i know that they are just a small part in what my experience is going to be. hope this helps.

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Epsilon on September 12, 2002, 19:15:53
Fredhedd, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about.  I have experienced the same thing.  I saw them best when I was on a drug, but they can be seen sober too if you concentrate enough.  One time I followed the "stars" and they stopped coming at me (kind of like like what you see in Star Trek or Star Wars when they hit lightspeed, but not as fast) and started circling around me instead.  It's tough to describe because my eyes were closed, so it's not like I was actually seeing them circle me, but then I sort of "zoomed out" and I could see myself at the center of all the circling "stars" and they created a sphere around me.  I was then interrupted by a friend of mine.  It was a very interesting experience.  A lot of times when I'm going to bed, I will try to see these stars, but most of the time I will give up.  
-Ep

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Tracy on September 20, 2002, 14:50:23
I was just going to start a thread on this very subject.  Lately I  also have been experiencing these little floating sparks I call "Astral Nats"  and seem to really come into play when practicing "spot focus" against any uniform colored object.  Also I have been noticing larger color blotches now and again throughout the day without even trying mostly blue, black, red or orange.  That would be neat if we are actually seeing parts of our own auras!  And maybe other energy out there.  I am  so relieved to know that is energy related.

yours
Tracy

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: jason on September 29, 2002, 12:58:10
I see those "electric tadpoles" whenever I look into a clear sky.I've always thought they were just related to the inner eye,like those bits of material floating inside your eye,maybe light reflecting off subsances in there,but now i'm not so sure! I have been training my auric vision for the past while,and can usually see "air disturbances" around people,sometimes clear or white,or dark,sometimes colored.

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Ryan on September 29, 2002, 20:25:25
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Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: BONEChief on October 01, 2002, 21:45:00
I have also seen those speks o light that move around in unisen.  Never gave them much thought, not sure why.  They have a familulatry to them for some reason.

Only when one can sit back and look at the whole picture, can one see the purpse of the little things in life.     - Derick Koelsche
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Paukki on October 06, 2002, 20:31:20
Okay, put me on the list of "seeing stars", too.  A star seems to be pretty much a stationary thing, relative to our perception of time and space when we observe them, so if that's what some of you see, well....what I see I have thought of as "fireflies", which are moving around very quickly and seem to be appearing and disappearing quickly, as well.  Usually I've shrugged it off as something to do with whatever sustains the cornea on one's eyeballs.  Saw a physicist on the "Thinking Allowed" program, lately, talking about how everything is light, so...?  Who knows?  (And what about those who say each person's universe is projected from within?  How would that work?)  Anyway, when I first started experiencing it about 23 years ago, it spooked me a bit.  One night at work at a dishwashing job back in 1979, I got  dizzy from the heat and exertion, and perhaps stood up too fast, and allofasuddenwhoooOOOAAAaaaa!  all those "fireflies" were a broiling, roiling, rock & rolling mass that , for about a second or less, were all becoming a very bright orange color, as I recall, and they were blinding me--totally taking over my vision!  (I actually had this nasty, fleeting thought that I was going to spontaneously combust!  Hehe!)  This happened more than once.   Tonight as I read through all 3 pages of this topic, I tried seeing them, and could see them a bit on the computer monitor.  Sorta like the little dots on a tv or monitor get a life of their own and start moving around, but the movement suggests more than a fast, two-dimensional surface.  Sometimes I watch them in the blue sky, which is easy.  There is a whitness or transparency in some or most or all of it, (haven't really STUDIED it), so I've wondered if the bright orange "fireflies" associated with lightheadedness/oxygen debt, are actually "dying" fireflies, (lack of air).   All speculation.  I'm no scientist.

--Paukki

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: bindi on October 14, 2002, 15:07:53
I see these also and have done so ever since I began meditating 12 months ago. I don't see them in the sky neccesarily but every where and anytime, but only one or two at a time...sort of like tinly silver flashes of light...I asked a Reiki Master what it was and she said that it was just energy....I occasionally also get purple blobs, that look like a small blob of thick purple smoke about the size of a 20cent piece....no idea what these are though, they only last a sencond!
The other day I also saw a large ball of energy (I assume thats what it was) sort of like a flash from a camera but not as bright, it flashed twice...not sure what that meant either! Just glad I'm not the only one, I started thinking I needed a brain scan or something!!!!!
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: alfa_33au on October 25, 2002, 20:47:50
The electric tadpoles - good description.
I experienced these in a lucid dream, where my recently departed mother-in law paid me a visit in the house, accompanied by others also, whom i presumed were deceased also.
In the dream i touched a wall and got electricuted, looked up and there they were ( flying sparks).
My mother in law greeted them, as if she was familiar with them as entities.
Robert Bruce mentions in his book about the high electricity present when departed ones are present.
When i woke, i remembered the details of the dream so vividly, and knew we had spoken.
Felt blessed with the experience.
I also get the firefly sparks at random times in my waking life.
A wonderful friend of mine once told me they are  the energy of angels around us.
Paola.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: OahnMacleod on October 28, 2002, 19:16:32
I have seen those floating things, (look like tadpoles or something) floating around when staring at a blue sky out of focus. They seem to be internal to the membrane of my eye.

In the dark of my bedroom at night, I don't look for them anymore because I'm tired now at night, I use to see "Magic Dots" and call out to them each night when in bed. They would float around the room and surround the bed and keep me company so to speak. They would sometimes take shape and even float right up to my fact and take different abstract forms. They almost looked like the dots you see on a TV screen when sitting SUPER close, the pixels on the screen, red, blue, green.

Don't know if that's what you meant, but had to share...

Thnx
Oahn

Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: SteppenWolf on April 16, 2002, 21:29:00
Just a funny thing happened a few weeks back.  A friend and I just got into kite flying for a laugh and so we were flying the kite down at the beach and while I was controlling it looking up at the sky I suddenly noticed that there were all these bright little dots pretty evenly spread out over my field of vision in the sky.  I yelled out to the others and enjoyed it for the few seconds it lasted.

Anyone had that before or any idea what it's about?

Cheers!  
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: gubby on March 19, 2005, 23:35:46
BUMP

Anyone else seeing stars?
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: -lines- on March 20, 2005, 04:37:00
Seen the tadpoles, seen the quick bright lights that pop in. The bright ones that pop like a flash every once in a while are related to an eye condition that I have. Also had the tadpoles take over my vision after I stand up. Far as I'm considered, they're just eye things.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: gubby on March 20, 2005, 21:57:11
-lines-

May I ask what your eye condition is?

I have been getting small star bursts in my vision for a few months now and you have me curious.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: -lines- on March 21, 2005, 04:05:30
It's from macular degeneration, for me at least. They told me it's called white without pressure. It might be called light without pressure; I never did catch the start of the term. Ended up having laser eye surgery on both for the macular degeneration, but I'm still seeing the bursts every once in a while. Ususally they are very small, but sometimes they are larger. They'll be able to tell if you have something wrong with your eyes when you go to any optometrist.

Ever seen the dots that change colors/look rainbowy?
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: kole on March 21, 2005, 10:05:04
I see those little dots too.
There was some interesting discussion on mysticweb forum about them.
According to the guy named Flipstar there are 3 steps.
QuoteStep 1:
This is how I see Angels in the sky. In the daylight hours, stand outside in an area where your view of the sky is unobstructed by trees, buildings or telephone wires. Take in three deep relaxing breaths releasing tension in the shoulders and neck while looking up. Try not to focus on any one thing in particular while you breath comfortably and at a steady pace. Now do whatever it is that connects you and centers you. If it be prayer then pray, if you chant, chant. Still your mind and ask permission to see the Angels of the atmosphere. Be patient this could take a minute or two. Don't be discouraged if at first you don't see anything, for some it is instant and for others it may take a few tries. With just a little bit of practice you will start to see them everywhere without effort. Try it, let me know what you see and be prepared to have your mind blown at the vast multitudes of the Good Creators gleaming hosts whizzing about, busily watching over us! Work with this for a while and then if anyone would like, i'll share step 2.

Step2:
Continue to watch them and relax, ask them in your minds eye to come closer to you. As they draw in closer allow them to mingle with your own evergy feild. After a sort while they will surround you and before long you'll be lit up like a lightbulb with an electrical energy. You can also practice manipulating them into shapes, or asking them to fly in front of or move behind trees and buildings.
We are all so ready to dismiss miracles every day as tricks of the eye or just our imagination. I tell you the truth, if your gut tells you one thing and your head tells you another, your head is a liar! In the beginning it all has very little to do with seeing is believing and everything to do with believing before you can see. Regardless of what you believe or see, the more you work with something, the more it becomes a reality. Thats what it means to take a leap of faith.

Step3:
There is a step 3 but if you don't approach it with extreme caution, you could instantly turn into a giant banana, so i'll hold off on step 3 for now....
The wole story is here:
http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/12_4139.html

Also you can find Flipstar's email there.
Kole.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: gubby on March 21, 2005, 10:31:24
QuoteEver seen the dots that change colors/look rainbowy?

No, I'm not sure that I've seen those.

But I have seen tiny orbs form out of these starbursts I mentioned. Like tiny silvery planets spinning then shooting away into thin air.

When I was a kid I could lay down outside looking up at the sky and see hundreds of clear microscopic sized air particles. Don't know what else to call them. :) They had no color but I could see them. I haven't tried looking for those in so long.

Thanks for info you shared on your eye condition. I've actually been considering going to see an optometrist just out of curiosity, maybe he/she will/won't find anything. :P
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Naiad780 on March 22, 2005, 16:22:28
I see them daily, numerous times.  Because seeing flashes of light can be a sign of an eye disorder, as -lines- stated, I went in for a check up and my eyes are just dandy (beyond the mild nearsightedness I have always had).

I can see them right now :)  Mostly I don't pay too much attention to them because they never seem to respond to me, but they are pretty.  I do wonder why sometimes they appear as brilliant blue flashes, and more occasionally red or green.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: ThoughtForm on March 22, 2005, 22:24:05
I've been seeing these for some years now, still haven't quite figured out what they are though.

I first noticed them as a student when I was relaxing on the sofa one late afternoon just staring blankly up at the sky when I started seeing all these tiny specks of white light moving around the sky randomly much like pollen grains on the surface of water.

I thought I was just seeing things until I tried an experiment and told some fellow engineering students sitting beside me to look out the window up at the sky for 30 seconds to a minute and describe what they see.. all of them described the exact same thing; tiny specks of white light moving around randomly in the sky!

As far as I can tell these are not 'bits of dust' on the surface of the eyeball as they emit pure white light and move around fast and randomly. I once witnessed one speck of light 'chasing' another speck of light all around the sky, weaving in and out in between all the other hundreds of specks of light  :?

Now whenever I look up at the sky I see them instantly and there are always hundreds if not thousands of them.. what could they be?  :?:
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: MisterJingo on March 22, 2005, 22:37:12
Those stars are actually blood cells moving through the myriad blood  vessels on the retina. Usually sensory perception such as that is filtered out by the brain (deems as unnecessary), but on occasion it becomes apparent. It can also become a part of standard awareness if you make concerted efforts to perceive it. Consciously re-aligning certain perceptual filters in the brain.
A lot of usually filtered out perceptual effects can be seen if one looks for them.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: open_mind on March 23, 2005, 04:24:22
I see those things too, on any uniform light colored background. Now it's not a eye condition because i score as high as possible on any sight test and the doctor says my eyes is in excellent shape.
I would not think they are from blood cells or similar because they usually follow the the contours of objects like trees and a couple of times i have seen them in 3D(kinda mind blowing the first time), when in 3D they make something that can look similar to a comets tail. The colors i have seen them in is in order of most common, starting with white, blue gold/yellow and black.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: MisterJingo on March 23, 2005, 06:18:11
Do a google and look this phenomenen up. Also do not discount how the mind could alter these things. They could follow the countours of trees as if the tree is the only object of detail in sight (against a uniform sky), those along the 'edge' of the tree would be more pronounced. Looking for a period of time would perhaps make them seem to follow the shape.
I can lie and look at the ceiling and see a vast sea of these things (admittedly I have HPPD which could make things more pronounced)  seemingly interacting and floating around, like seeing the wind. There are many layers of vessels in the eye, and this could create many visual illusions (like them tracing objects or interacting.)
Imagination can fill in a lot of 'holes.'
Someone mentioned earlier that they can see coloured lights in bed at night. This is due to rods and cones still firing due to earlier excitementation. Such effects could also be combined with seeing blood cells to give greater effect.
I guess what i'm saying is that everyone see's these, and if there was a greater meaning to them (over that of the biological explaination) there would be a lot more literature out there regarding them.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: -lines- on March 24, 2005, 00:50:55
Quote from: open_mindI see those things too, on any uniform light colored background. Now it's not a eye condition because i score as high as possible on any sight test and the doctor says my eyes is in excellent shape.

You are talking about the tadpoles, the blood cells that travel through the eye. The lights that I was reffering to were the bright flashes of light, pinpricks or brighter, and they sometimes hang around for a second after. They are usually white, but (as someone else said as well) can be colored or can change colors rapidly, creating a rainbowy one.

MisterJingo: Thanks for confirming what I have come to believe about the 'tadpoles'. I hadn't been able to find information about them before, but had managed to reason it out.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: lunaura on April 21, 2005, 17:21:21
Hiya,

Could these be air elementals or even pranic energy flow?

Just a thought.

Love and (twinkly:wink:) light,
Lunaura
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: TheLostOne on May 02, 2005, 14:08:50
i read the things you wrote

i see this sparky white dots on the sky and i just wanted to know..
is that on the way to have auric vision?
how do you train to see auras..

i heard that this light dots are a part of universal energy field
and they are sparky because they reflect the light of the sun..
i just heard that, not suppose to be 100% true
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Necromancer on May 29, 2005, 01:22:01
Has anyone ever thought that this might be what the ancient sun worshipers of Akhenaten saw? In the years that I have observed these Points Of Light I do notice regular patterns and that there is a semblance between the sun and their appearance. I have noticed that if the sun is at certain angles and the sky is clear they seem to fluoresce and become extremely bright. In fact it is almost to the point where some form of detail is detectable about them.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: Psionic on June 02, 2005, 06:04:18
I also see these sparky white dots every time I look into the sky. Sometimes they leave  transparent energy trails as they move around.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: OrionsDream on June 22, 2005, 21:13:51
I see them EVERYWHERE- Especially the sky and white walls-
But i can see them on anything if i think about it, including humans, or anything visible to the 3 dimensional eyes.
Its very interesting, and it has increased over time. However my regular vision has de-creased.
It might be air elemental related, i have no idea. Or simply millions of atoms constantly in motion- atoms or particales.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: DarkMind on October 01, 2005, 12:53:50
Hi,

I think I myself have such experiences. At first I thought it may be a good thing. But now I am not so sure. I would like to share this post which was sent to me in another forum:

Floaters are normal, especially as we age. They are normally harmless and just a nusance. What may be a sign of trouble is a rapid increase in floaters.

DS

Eye Floaters and Spots
All About Vision: Floaters


By Judith Lee and Gretchyn Bailey;
reviewed by Dr. Vance Thompson

You may sometimes see small specks or clouds moving in your field of vision. They are called floaters. You can often see them when looking at a plain background, like a blank wall or blue sky. Floaters are actually tiny clumps of gel or cells inside the vitreous, the clear jelly-like fluid that fills the inside of your eye.

Floaters may look like specks, strands, webs or other shapes. Actually, what you are seeing are the shadows of floaters cast on the retina, the light-sensitive part of the eye.
Eye Floaters and Spots Symptoms and Signs

If a spot or shadowy shape passes in front of your field of vision or to the side, you are seeing a floater. Because they are inside your eye, they move with your eyes when you try to see them. You may also see flashes of light. These flashes occur more often in older people as the vitreous humor thickens and tugs on the light-sensitive retina. They may be a warning sign of a detached retina. Flashes also occur after a blow to the head, often called "seeing stars."
Spots and eye floaters.

Eye floaters and spots are usually harmless, but flashes of light may indicate a problem. If you're suddenly seeing spots, floaters or flashes, get an eye exam to make sure nothing's wrong.


Some people experience flashes of light that appear as jagged lines or "heat waves" in both eyes, often lasting 10-20 minutes. These types of flashes are usually caused by a spasm of blood vessels in the brain, which is called a migraine. If a headache follows the flashes, it is called a migraine headache. However, jagged lines or "heat waves" can occur without a headache. In this case, the light flashes are called an ophthalmic migraine, or a migraine without a headache.
What Causes Eye Floaters and Spots?

For most people, floaters occur as they grow older. The vitreous humor thickens and clumps as we age, and floaters result from the clumped vitreous gel. Sometimes pregnant women see spots caused by little bits of protein trapped within the eye. Eye injury or breakdown of the vitreous humor may also cause spots and floaters.

When people reach middle age, the vitreous gel may start to thicken or shrink, forming clumps or strands inside the eye. The vitreous gel pulls away from the back wall of the eye, causing a posterior vitreous detachment. It is a common cause of floaters, and it is more common for people who:
are nearsighted;

have undergone cataract operations;

have had YAG laser surgery of the eye;

have had inflammation inside the eye.

Treatment for Spots and Floaters

Most spots and eye floaters are merely annoying but harmless when they temporarily enter the field of vision, and many fade over time. People sometimes are interested in surgery to remove floaters, but doctors are willing to perform such surgery only in rare instances.
Suggested Articles

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Retinal detachment: what to do about it



If you suddenly see new floaters, or eye floaters accompanied by flashes of light or peripheral vision loss, it could indicate serious conditions such as diabetic retinopathy; vascular abnormalities such as retinal hemorrhages or carotid artery disease, or the beginning of a retinal detachment. The retina can tear if the shrinking vitreous gel pulls away from the wall of the eye. This sometimes causes a small amount of bleeding in the eye that may appear as new floaters. You should see your eye doctor immediately.




With regards,
DarkMind
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: hindukush on October 08, 2005, 06:29:58
ive got something which i believe is the same thing, if i look at the sky and focus it looks like all of these sperm looking things, and they are moving fast and all over the place, and the beginning of them looks like light.   I also have a floater i dont know if anyone else has anything like this, but it is a black dot that i see all the time, when im reading or bored i notice it and it floats over everything, its weird but i get use to it.
Title: Seeing stars? (Sparkly vision)
Post by: FuM on October 10, 2005, 02:54:35
its dead eye cells and eye germs that react to bright light case closed