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 on: Today at 06:00:00 
Started by PerspectiveShift - Last post by EscapeVelocity
I find it intriguing that Perspective brought this subject up and that it interested Bob enough to comment with similar experience.

It's just my opinion but I think that it is a good indication to you both that your NP/Non-Physical senses are being activated; and you are beginning to intuitively notice the fact. I noticed this same activity for myself about 10 years ago. And it definitely wasn't the kind of activity that I expected, and it left me with questions which I couldn't find answers to for some time, but nonetheless there it was. As I devoted more concentrated attention to my dreaming awareness, becoming lucid, working phasing techniques, etc...other things began to happen such as an increase in early morning hypnopompic activity: Voices of all sorts, machinery noises disturbing me, firecrackers and cannonades during the Fourth of July (no kidding!)...much of it was disorienting and honestly bothersome. Again, this is why we need to keep a dream journal or take notes of some kind, lol. Much of this we don't figure out until much later...

But then there were the moments of beautiful music, such as both of you describe. Not regularly or even often...but when they occurred they were very obvious.

About 8 years ago, I was at a business conference at a very upscale resort in Phoenix, Arizona and one night at a lounge there was a wonderful young female performer, playing piano and singing cover songs, many of which were Fleetwood Mac, which i love. She was simply awesome and I listened for more than three hours. Around 4 in the morning, I became lucidly aware and realized there was music playing in my head, piano similar to her style. Within a minute or so I realized that I could control the music, the tempo, the chording, the progression. Now honestly I love music but technically I lack the skill at playing. But there in that middle of the night hypnopompic kind of state, I was in control and could tap into a whole new creative frequency. And I played with it, experimented and created my own music for maybe thirty minutes before I fell out of the state and back into sleep.

I have been in that state a few more times and although I am not sure, I think that it is the 'creative state/stream' that many artists are able to access much more than my feeble adventures. And it's not just for musicians...not only Paul McCartney has described this state, but Edison, Ford, Tesla and many authors...

I know that I have seen glimpses of this creative frequency and I would submit that both you have now had glimpses of it. It's part of our NP education and our re-awakening; just one part and there are others. I hope that resonates some.

EV

 

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 on: Yesterday at 18:53:59 
Started by GrumpyRabbit - Last post by GrumpyRabbit
That's really cool, Bob! Definitely a sign that you should get on your rearranging =)

And, if you see the image on the card every day when you close your eyes (how long has that been going on??) then THAT is a big part of the answer to your question. Like,

"Hello are there spirits that have messages for me?"

"He's not getting it! We've been showing him that image every day when he shuts his eyes....well fine, we'll show it to him again then on one of these tarot cards...." LOL

If you've ever experimented with tarot (or thought about it) this might be a good deck for you to work with, then. This image on this card forms the basis of what's on the back of every card. It represents the overall graphic of the entire deck.

See?




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 on: Yesterday at 14:51:05 
Started by GrumpyRabbit - Last post by Bob_the_floater
I have actually been thinking about rearranging furniture and changing my usual projection/meditation spot, just to mix things up a bit and see if it has any impact. But been procrastinating and haven't gotten around to it. I'm gonna take your reading as a sign and get my lazy butt in gear and get it done smiley

Really like the card BTW, I see that image daily when closing my eyes. A deep black circle in the center with a white edge, not as sharp as on the card, but remove the bright white outline from 3 to 1 o'clock and it's pretty much spot on!

Thanks for the reading!

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 on: Yesterday at 12:00:37 
Started by PerspectiveShift - Last post by PerspectiveShift
I've only heard music once, it happened a couple of months ago after clicking out while trying to phase and having a non-lucid mini dream, the hypnopompia was accompanied by the most beautiful classical orchestral type music, it only lasted 15 sec or so and faded away with the hypnopompic imagery.

Lately I've started to recognize when it's a good time to meditate instead of doing it at a set time, I would describe that state as the body feeling a bit tired/sluggish but without being tired as in needing sleep, while the mind is sort of drifting. But if you only have one specific time of day to meditate and mental stress from work, then I would suggest using some binaural beats, I personally like the theta range (4-7 Hz). After physical exercise IMO is a bit of a double edged sword, in that it can leave you totally fired up with a natural high or slightly spent and relaxed. Maybe try a nice long relaxing hot shower..

And welcome aboard smiley

Thanks Bob! Really appreciate the input. Iíll definitely try that out!

Yes I always get the music when Iím waking up during the hypnopompic time. This morning it wasnít music this time. It was a mechanical type churning noise that was in a consistent loop over and over again. I also recall a strange dream that wasnít really a typical dream. I realized that Iíve had this experience many many times over the past few months.

Itís like a defragmentation of me/my brain or something. Itís like my higher self knows what aspect of myself to focus on in myself and work on that area or connect it to new areas. Iím not sure if itís like building new neural pathways or energetic pathways or something. Itís very hard to put into words because I barely understand it myself. But there is a deep understanding when Iím in the dream state. No dream characters, no environment to explore, itís really rather basic visuals and more of a feeling/knowingÖ yeah hard to explain. And I remember being in this exact state many many times. Iíll learn to become more aware in this state next time.

If you ever had to defragment your Windows 98 computer thatís probably the closest way I could start to describe it lol!!!  cheesy

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 on: Yesterday at 04:54:21 
Started by tides2dust - Last post by tides2dust
Not really astral projection but...

Last night early morning as I lay on my back I saw a very bright white light forming in my right peripheral. All lights were off, it was around 3AM. I felt like there was someone here, but as soon as the light went so did the feeling of a presence.

I was wide awake. The day was very good, I thought it was full-moon energy/activity related. But I wonder if it's more. Aside from large amounts of positive energy I was on my way to yoga when a light in my right eye brought my attention to a license plate. I was in my car on the highway when I noticed it. I was actually deep in thought feeling joy and something much deeper- love for a type of spiritual union. It was during that thought I saw the license plate, "All God."

Both of these things happened in the same day and both observations came into my right peripheral. I'm sure they are related.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:51:54 
Started by Nameless - Last post by omcasey
Oh goodness Casey I never even noticed. Perhaps I should change my handle to Nameliss. grin

Oh I think it is perfect that you have left the "I" out. ( do you get it? ). lol

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 on: October 21, 2021, 23:45:34 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by PerspectiveShift
I personally think it is helpful to simplify this by taking things in the opposite direction. With this notion of infinity and eternity we are simply adding to the number of possible dimensions and potentially over-complicating things. By saying infinite and eternal we aren't removing the sense of time and space. Eternity means forever in time. Infinity means forever in space. We haven't removed space and time. We've just made them unending in this scenario.

You might say true reality is dimensionless. This eradicates time and space. And it's not so much that every possibility exists happening right now but rather that it lies unmanifest potentially waiting to arise in awareness. Not every possible eventuality has to be simultaneously playing out for true reality to be One.

One interesting consideration of our nature is by asking 'can there be an end to reality?' An ending to such a thing would require awareness of it having ended. And if there is awareness then it hasn't ended. Similarly, 'did reality have a beginning?' Well there would have to be awareness before it began to say it began but if there was awareness then it wasn't the beginning. So not 'eternal' or  'infinite' but everpresent.

So I, awareness/true reality (or whatever you like to call it) is everpresent. Without birth or death or existing in space or time. Dimensionless being.

I think your question about what came first depends upon your definition of 'reality'. This current human experience is largely thought based but pare that back and you still have awareness so in this regard 'thought' comes after. And after all a thought does not exist without awareness of it so it could never come first.

These are my thoughts building on classic non-dual teachings of the Vedantic and Tantric traditions.



Yes 100%. Logic and Thoughts and Intuition are faculties that we know and can master in this reality frame which allow us to partially comprehend ďrealityĒ. Time and Space also. But there are probably other perspectives different than Thought, Logic, and Intuition etc that can be experienced. Itís all we know so thatís all we think that exists. The fundamental baseline of who we are is awareness for all we can comprehend with the additional invisible faculties added on such as Rational thought, Emotion, and then you get the more physical: sight, touch etc in the perception of form.

Our language is limited in talking about these ďout thereĒ subjects. At some point it just has to be experienced. Thatís also the blessing of experiencing physical-ness. We are experiencing unique faculties like rational thought, spewing emotions, subtle intuition, feeling planted in the body like we are our bodyÖ itís actually really cool when you look at it from this perspective with all the different aspects to this reality frame.

Like literally the way we think is just one perspective. The way we perceive is so limited but very unique still. And then we learn the ability to consciously AP and get smacked with a whole other set of faculties. Itís no wonder we canít remember some of our experiences/dreams. Super cool!!

I think im sounding a little nuts now. You got me going!! Haha!  wink

I also almost forgot to mentionÖ. One book that really opened my mind as well to new pathways of thought was the Spirits Book by Allen Kardec. I always go into everything with a sense of open minded skepticism, but I was amazed at how interesting this perspective is as well.

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 on: October 21, 2021, 22:32:29 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by floriferous

As for the rest of the conversation of NPR and PR it comes down to a chicken/egg scenario. What happened first, the thought of the reality or did the reality exist before the thought. I think this concept would be impossible to understand with our limited faculties because time is a limited dimension in this reality. If infinity exists, than these realities would exist before an individual thought them up, but yet they are made of thought essence as we all are in this structured reality. You see it is unimaginable in my opinion because Time is the limiting factor here. We all think in terms of linear time and duality which distorts pure truth.


I personally think it is helpful to simplify this by taking things in the opposite direction. With this notion of infinity and eternity we are simply adding to the number of possible dimensions and potentially over-complicating things. By saying infinite and eternal we aren't removing the sense of time and space. Eternity means forever in time. Infinity means forever in space. We haven't removed space and time. We've just made them unending in this scenario.

You might say true reality is dimensionless. This eradicates time and space. And it's not so much that every possibility exists happening right now but rather that it lies unmanifest potentially waiting to arise in awareness. Not every possible eventuality has to be simultaneously playing out for true reality to be One.

One interesting consideration of our nature is by asking 'can there be an end to reality?' An ending to such a thing would require awareness of it having ended. And if there is awareness then it hasn't ended. Similarly, 'did reality have a beginning?' Well there would have to be awareness before it began to say it began but if there was awareness then it wasn't the beginning. So not 'eternal' or  'infinite' but everpresent.

So I, awareness/true reality (or whatever you like to call it) is everpresent. Without birth or death or existing in space or time. Dimensionless being.

I think your question about what came first depends upon your definition of 'reality'. This current human experience is largely thought based but pare that back and you still have awareness so in this regard 'thought' comes after. And after all a thought does not exist without awareness of it so it could never come first.

These are my thoughts building on classic non-dual teachings of the Vedantic and Tantric traditions.


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 on: October 21, 2021, 20:42:53 
Started by GrumpyRabbit - Last post by GrumpyRabbit
Haven't forgotten you, Bob! Just have been feeling a bit worn out this week.

I pulled this card for you re: your query - the 1 of Moons.



The message of the new moon in this card is that there's energy of potential, and a reminder to you to say YES! to everything that comes your way. It's the kind of abundance of new things coming, new beginnings starting. We also just had a full moon last night - very moon-y! Lots of "moon signs" make me think of making changes to shift energy. What do you need to reset? You can shift energy in lots of ways, including feng shui - rearranging furniture, changing furniture, updating your wardrobe. So questions for you to think about: do you say "no" too quickly to things/potential opportunities? Do you feel like you need a reset? Is there a change/shift in energy that is happening or seems to *want* to happen right now?

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 on: October 21, 2021, 19:33:44 
Started by LightBeam - Last post by LightBeam
PerspectiveShift, you are absolutely right. Time is not linear in the multiverse. We only perceive it as such here, due to the nature of our reality. As you mentioned there are many things we will not be able to understand while here, but that's ok. I think we know enough to be able to have a general idea of how the multiverse works and our place in it.

As far as recollection goes, most of my OBEs/APs are even more clear that events in the physical. I have noticed though that my recollection is most clear when I enter the non-physical from vibrational state. for some reason the stronger the vibes are, the more "awake" I become and the longer and more clear the experience is. When I enter though realization during a dream or without vibes, the experiences are shorted and less clear. That is just me though. I always practice a visualization. motion technique as I fall asleep at night and that technique usually triggers vibes and they "awake" you sometime during the night.

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