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thanks for the reply and the rush feeling is where it kinda made me fell as if i was falling or weightless so ill be sure to not overthink it when it happens

I just wanted to update you all and see what you think as I believe I may be improving!!

So here it is
Started "meditation" tried relaxing the body, fuzzy images appeared for mere seconds at a time flashed in randomness, also random explosions of blackness(with in the blackness already there lol). i acknowledged what I saw but didn't focus on it as I'd been told not to in order to proceed deeper, it was very random things just as the face of death or i guess the hooded shadow men, but just the face, a fishes mouth with razor sharp teeth and others after a while I realized I needed to be breathing correctly so I focused on my breathing, I thought the word "in" when I breathed in through my nose and thought the word "out" when I breathed out of my mouth, I kept doing so for ever breath. After a while random ripples of light and fuzzy incomprehensible images or some may say blobs haha who knows. After a while I started losing track of things, I got lost in me saying "in and out", I fell deeper then i think at that point i forgot to keep saying "in and out" all together but im not sure, anyways I Felt a sudden head change as if I had gone down the hill on a roller coaster or fallen off something high,  then my heart raced and I think that I thought about my heart racing and it snapped me out of what ever i was feeling, then after that I tried to refocus but my heart was racing and i was trying to process  what had happened, so I called it quits being somewhat satisfied that maybe iv possibly made it further ?  

Does it sound like I was on the right track up until the heart racing thing snapped me out of my "transe" ? Idk why that happened  maybe I was frightened by the head change

Thanks again guys


-Zach

Hey thanks to all for all the tips and advise as they have helped!!

I to have done that except iv "woken up" and checked my iPhone which was 100% accurate and I saw I had a text, so as usual I replied, and then glanced at the time (which is static at the top of iPhones) 7:59 and I got up and when to the bath room after peeing I looking in the mirror I looked 100% accurate and what not then i decided I was still really tired so I walked back into my room lay down, neglected to relize this at the time but I don't think I walked to the bath room it was more like I hovered(some I recalled later) anyways I was mad I had missed my pops before he left town (left at 545am) then fell asleep, woke up again checked my phone as usual and saw the time was only 758 & I had a text.... Complete mind fack it took me an hour or two to sort everything out, but iv had that happen before & I noticed I did stretch more than normal

Also I apologize if I sound flustered, its 747 in the morning right now where I am and I started my projection excersize at 12 or 1 lol that's seven hours... Lol how long do y'all normally meditate for, I may start doing 20-30 minute sessions (I don't normally do it for seven hours I must have just lost track of time maybe because I kept restarting my meditation/projection technique cause the the reasons in the above post)

Ok so Iv been trying to project here for abit, and One of a few things always happens, I either start faiding in an out of dreams desperately trying to keep my mind from letting it self fall with my body, then wake up hours later... Obviously unsuccessful lol

Or when I don't fall asleep I have a hard time getting my upper torso to fall "asleep" due to my breathing technique I think? I get the legs and the hands but from about my mid rib cage up I'm still pretty aware of along with my head, after trying for an hour or two I just end up more frustrated than anything

Last not least I think this is the most frustrating thing that happens..... I get random itches that even if I just leave them be will continue itching and I think just distracting me

Any way to combat these problems?


Thanks
-Zach

thanks man, this really helps me get a better understanding!!! also thanks for the links im about to go dive into one now!
i cant express enough how much i appreciate the help !!!

-zach

Hey thanks for the reply, I know I typed a hefty amount there and it's pretty jam packed

That helps alot!!!! Also i forgot to ask, What are some signs that I may me on the virge of obe for when I get to that point? Iv heard that so people get vibrations, is there anything else I could associate with a breakthrough ? I say associate because I'm not nessesarly set on looking for these symptoms because iv been told that can hinder my experience by thinking to much.

Also any type of recommended aid or method for a beginner ? Not trying to rush it more so trying to understand what to expect (knowledge freak here hehe)  ?

Thanks again guys
Zach

First off I'm Zach this is my first post, I hope it is in the correct section...
Also I apologize about spelling I tryed to get this down quick so I wouldn't forget just ask me to reword something if it doesn't make much sense
Thanks guys

I started to feel a slight tingle in my feet, I could tell they were falling asleep as where my hands, they start my feeling warm them tingly the light weight. The feeling is all over at this point my body feels asleep,iv been this far before. I notice I get random iches and twitches as I get deeper which really distracted me and and cause me to jump back a few steps, At a point I fell deep enough that I forgot completely about my body but only for literal seconds before having an almost da jah vue like felling not really where I felt as if something has happened like this before but almost like when your almost asleep and you dream for a split second not even long enough to create an image but you were there then wake instantly.... Mixed with the head change feeling associated with de jah vue, that happened about two to three times randomly, the only imagery or vision of anything that I saw was I thought I saw a white light or I guess a white blurry circle in the center of the blackness of my eye lids, I kept focusing on it then it went away and small ripples of smoke appeared in the center of the blackness which then started to look almost look like a small part of the milky way as of viewed from the vacuum of space but then quickly started to look like a body made of light but not quite a body shape but close like the shape of a torso with no arms lehs just center mass, I only saw it in pulses of rippling light the started in center and worked out from center both left and right but not up and down to create the shape.

Now keep in mind this only lasted a mere seconds like between 10-20 seconds also this didn't happen at the same time I felt the da jah vu sensation I spoke of earlier... An I'm pretty sure the images were only 2d as if one was looking at a picture and the image was small and occurred only in the center of the blackness of my eye lids and the only colors were black and white

Also Another thing i would like to address and idk if its normal but I would like to know if you guys experience this but when I saw the  blurry white circle and the vision of smoke which was vivid much more the the some what body shaped light  every time I try to focus on the image I would notice my eyes would twitch uncontrollably which felt weird almost as if my eyes where "seizuring" I started seeing more light which made me think I was twitching my eyelids open ever so slightly, but im not sure cause there wasnt much light in the room, it didn't effect the image or cause the image to shake or move the image was stationary but it was distracting...

another thing i was told to visualize my room & surroundings,  i could imagine everything in my room and could perceive its distance and angle of view but I could not actually create an image or see anything just that I knew it was there and what it looked like just as if you where to be wide awake on your couch and close your eyes for a second you remember what the room your in looks like due to the memory of before you shut your eyes & how it looks but you can't actually see how it looks, or even try to create an image  or vividly visualize it, does that make any sense? At one point I imagined me jumping out of my body and running out of my room in the basement and running up the stairs an out the front door at the speed of sound but I could not visualize any of it I could only imagine it no differently than i could if I was to be Driving my car an imagined it..... Basically I thought of it but couldn't visualize or Make it a sensible reality I just felt my body in paralysis, but could move if i wanted to...well minus the back of my neck and my freaking salivating mouth that kept really distracting me, I kept feeling the need to swallow through out this whole process about once every 5 min also I would get random iches and muscle twitches. towards the end I got really annoyed that laid there for an hour and a half but kept salivating so I called it quits for the night.

I really hope all that made sense an I really hope someone is willing to take or even have the time to read this and reply to all parts of this post to help me understand, thanks

I want to thank y'all in advanced for any replies

Also if you need to re explain or reword certain parts just let me know

-Z

Ohh also one thing I'd like to add I get the rapid eye twitch every time I try, almost always when I start to get an image of something like I time I started to see my face but as if it was an image made of a sonar wave that every time it pulsed it would make a and image that would fade until the next wave hit never raiding comeately, the image was not solid but opaque almost like a fogged glass like the kind that they make to look fogged