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i also had an interesting experience this week.  for the last year and a half ive been having a reoccurring dream/projection/obe/dream paralysis where someone comes and tries to take my energy.  its usually in the form of an invasion, and is quite painful.

this week i OBE'ed from a lucid dream, and started walking around my house.  i came across this man, who started trying to suck energy out of my ear.  i started my usual thing of pretending to send him love and compassion, but reallly just wanting him to get the hell away from me lol.

but then i started sending him reiki- and he disappeared.

i recommend if anyone has problems with this kind of thing- take your 'self' out of the equation, and just be a channel for pure, unadulterated love and compassion.

It is said that sometimes when you begin to truly learn more about yourself (spiritually) and you just begin energy work/AP, all the feelings and thoughts you have surpressed come out. Sort of a cleaning of the mind/soul.

TOTALLY!

all these things we encounter are aspects of ourselves, and if we learn to love them we can bring this love and accpetance and healing into our waking lives.

peace,
violet

greetings all:

ive been away for some time, trying to live more in teh real world these days 

this may seem like an obvious question, but im wondering- why do people try to project?

are you hoping to achieve/ learn somthing?

is it a form of escape from the real world?

is it for kicks?

why do we do anything i suppose!

violet

hey little joe,

welcome to the forum!

i find what inhibits my projections the most is trying too hard- trying to reach the inner world through the mind.

the mind is the wrong door.

i dont know any of the technical terms for these things, but i find that the moment of projection comes at a point of deep relaxation, where youve already begun to trip out a bit- your conscious and your subconscious are blurring together.  immediately after this, you either fall asleep, or get to a point of awareness which is like a pin prick- everything is clear and you can feel both your etheric body and your physical body.  this is the point of separation.

youre right about waiting a little bit longer- cos if youre excited by the prospect of projecting, it means that your mind- conscious mind- is involved, and you will not project sucessfully if you attempt to do so while in this state.  you'll either come crashing out of your body, or find yourself blind.  the best thing to do is keep relaxing, deeper and deeper into it, until the state loses its emotion.

hope this is of some help.  good luck!

peace,
violet

that may have been a past life resonance.  you may have been a yogi in a past life and are being encouraged to re-embrace this energy at this point in your life.  not literally by becoming a yogi, but by exploring things that a yogi would do.

was going to ask a quetion, but thought better of it.

sounds great, cheers for the heads up pres. i love manga animation!

ta failte roite!

greetings from a fellow irish person.  enjoy your stay here.

le gra,

violet

thanks for the replies guys.

i agree that its easier to heal others than to heal ourselves. i think thats because it can be easier to recognise the nature of other peoples dis-eases.  seeing our own takes a great deal of inner honesty, and many people are not prepared to go there.  they are not ready to let go of their imagined selves, and take responsibility for their own experience of life.

of course this works on many levels- there are many levels of honesty, and of dis-ease.

so, runlola, i believe what the healer said to you to be true.  absolute honesty- and subsequent forgiveness and healing- comes from the heart.  no matter who you are working on, it must come from the heart.

To say in other words: the parts of your soul/psyche that are not integrated in the whole of your being provoke energy tensions that project themselves as physical/mental illnesses.

very nicely put andonitxo, thank you:-)

peace,
violet

thanks for the info CFTraveler! 

i totally agree about the lower places being more draining.

[1 - Have you ever encountered more evolved beings?]

this is such a great thread!

thanks andrew, and everyone else who's answered  

1 - Have you ever encountered more evolved beings?

a:  yup, ive met my spirit guides a few times, and there was a period where i used to meet the Earth Mother quite frequently.  she has the energy of Mary in Christian doctrine, or Kuan Yin in Chinese Buddhism.

also, any encounters i have with my power and totem animals shows me that they definitly have a more enlightened consciousness than i do.

1.1 - If so, describe the place:

umm.. the most memorable happened at a time when i was really searching for ansewrs and healing. i asked Mary to come with me. as i began to project, i felt her holding my right hand, and a man with a hat holding my left. we projected to a place with beautiful green grass, golden sunlight and white buildings. there were lots of people walking towards something, and we walked with them.
but this scenario kept playing out in front of us, and it was so bizarre and horrific that i actually forgot about my guides, and went to investigate it, thinking it may be related to my subconscious.

      what were they like:  trustworthy and reliable, full of truth and virtue.  (Mary appeared as a beam of light.)  the animals were joy and unconditional love incarnate.
      what have you learned from them:  the nature of pure love.  that truly enlightened beings will not react to what you fear- they will not change, they just Are.

2 - What have you found out about life on other planets?
nothing!  i have met aliens, but i think they were a parallel of this dimension.  they were very nice.

3 - What was the most interesting conversation you had? What did you ask/say and hear?
it was during the time period i mentioned above, different OBE.  i met a blond haired boy, and he pointed above my head, saying "whats that?  theres a dark cloud above your head!"  then my vision shifted to someone sitting under a tree, who had previously been camoflagued by it.  i ran over to him.  he looked like an Amazon warrior/ witch doctor.  he began to taunt me, but i asked him to remove the cloud over my head.  he obliged, and performed the most amzing healing ritual on me.  when i eventually came to, hours later, it was as if i was seeing colour for the first time.

4 -  Describe 3 things/creatures that you saw there, but never saw here:

1) was flying around a beautiful place once where there were all these trees on tiny islands, and each tree had loads of bowls of fruit on its branches.  there was one kind of fruit i didnt recognise.  it tasted a bit like star fruit.  when i asked what it was, i was told "snoozeberry".  instant reaction- "no way- roald dahl was here?!"

2) vampires, other negs.

3) hands appearing out of mid air, waving wands and creating my reality right in front of me.

5 - If you've been able to read, what did you read about? How many consecutive words do you remember?
cant retain anything i read, but it never seems that important!

[b}5.1 - Have you read words you haven't seen here before?[/b]
think so, but dont remember.

6 - Ever learned special tricks to be used there?
not really, theres lots of things i seem to instinctively know how to do...  did learn how to iceskate without ice though!


7 - Ever received a solution to a problem?
all the time.  its generally abstract though, and only comes to me once ive analysed how i reacted to each situation, and how this relates to how i react to things in life.

8 - Describe the most amazing thing you saw:

the Earth Mother.  angels made of light.


9 - Describe the most amazing thing you did:
astral orgasm!

10 - Describe your most amazing validation:

going to the astral plane, and seeing past lives played out in front on me in a hall of mirrors.  and then reading about these places on the internet- months later.

meeting several of the archetypes on separate occassions before even reading carl jung.

these at least validated to me the existence of the collective unconsious.

sharing a visit to the astral with my flat mate.  she doesnt remember it, but i heard her wake up right after me, and she looked absolutely exhausted the next day.  she also told me personal things in that projection that she hadnt told me in real life.


11 - Ever had your astral body malformed or defective? What was it like?

actually, recently i was having some difficulty getting out of my room, and my vision wasnt great.  i was trying to go through the window when i noticed that i had something covering my forehead.  (it was like one of those things they give you to cover your eyes on long haul flights!)  i wonder if the way our astral body appears to us, and feels, can tell us abbout the baggage we are carrying in real life?

13 - Describe the 3 strangest sentences you heard:
twice i heard the most amzing music.  it was a women singing in a language i didnt know- it didnt sound like a language that is in existence anymore.  her voice was so pure, and powerful.

ive also heard the most profound knowledge iterated to me, but my conscious mind cant relay it.  its floating around in my subconscious somewhere!


14 - Describe 3 things that you still want to try in the astral:
keep learning about myself, learning how to learn, and learning how to live.

although ive learnt that the best place for doing that is when we're awake!

id love to actually converse with a ascended being.  ive met some, but they havent said much! (although i dont even know what id ask them).

just want to keep learning in general!  id love to attend dream school.  

12 - What interesting things have you found out about the Universe?

getting confirmation on the collective unconscious was a Huge deal- it was the light i could look back to during my dark night of the soul.

also, see below.  

15 - If you believe in a God, what clues have you gotten about it's existence?
two clues- one was a lucid dream, the other was the beginning of a projection.
1) i was experiencing a past life death.  dying felt like quickly losing physical consciousness, while other consciousnesses became more pronounced and focused.  suddenly, i was at a point of complete Awareness- i could look back on all the past lives id ever had, and also had complete understanding of Creation, the Universe, and All That Is.  (could not carry any of this info through into waking!)

2) this was so beautiful.  i was leaving my physical body, and entered a place i refer to as the Womb of the Universe.  all i could feel- was Total and Absolute Love.  it covered me so thickly it was like a blanket, and yet i was part of it, and it was all of me.

16 - Ever been lectured on the process of Creation?
actually- yes, but not whilst asleep!  i was lying in bed one night and got the full run down on evolution onland on this planet.  i was quite good at biology at school, but had never flexed my capacities that far before.  fascinating!

again, thanks a million andrew!  its been great to actually search the memory banks and share.

peace  

i projected this morning, and hovered over my body for a while, and could realy clearly make out the energy surrounding it.  im a reiki student, and am wondering if anyone has tried using a hands on healing method on their own bodies whilst observing them?  (and if it has worked!)

thanks,

violet

hey all,

every time i project i am absolutely exhausted.  its getting to the point where im wondering if i need to curb my wandering cos it can infringe on my day to day life.

has anyone discovered a method of projecting that doesnt completely deplete their energy?  or is this something you learn with time and experience?

thanking you. 

violet

greetings all.

i had an interesting OBE today.  i was lying on my stomache, in a very very deep meditative state, when i felt that shift within, that can indicate youre becoming detached from your body.  i didnt try to project, but suddenly i felt this wind, tugging me upwards from my body.  i tried to get out fully, but was struggling a bit, cos i was on my stomache.

suddenly, something swooped down, and pulled me out of my body, and began flying upwards with me.  it appeared to be a being made of light.  i asked him what his name was, but he looked at me in surprise.  i tried telepathically, but he still didnt answer.

the actual experience was very long and involved, so i wont go into it, but he left me in this place where there were loads of people around my age (25).  he told me that this was a stop off poinmt, and that he'd be back to take me elsewhere.

there was an older man there, and i asked him about the being of light.  he told me his name was Driver.  i cant remember what else he told me about him.

i was very physical in this building- i couldnt fly or anything, and i couldnt get out.  but when i looked out the windows, i could see beautiful golden sunlight, so i knew i was somewhere on a higher plane.

has this ever happened to anyone else??

 

yah.......i really wish i could delete select posts.....i suggest that the topic starter gets the power to delete any posts he wish.

i think that may be called censorship.

"For a long time it had seemed to me that life was about to begin -- real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be got through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. Then life would begin. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life."

-- Fr. Alfred D'Souza

why cant they just use the internet like everybody else?

lol   

i had a thought.  youve been trying to talk to your spirit guides, right?  possibly this was one of your spirit guides trying to make himself known to you.  i have a theory on why he may have appeared to you as stone.

we attract, and recognise, beings and things that are in vibrational alignment to us.  Love carries a much deeper vibration than fear and negativity, and if you are in a low vibe place, you wont be able to rerecognise it.  youre in a low vibe place at the moment, and at times like these its quite normal to feel "forsaken". but this is only cos your misery is blinding you to your spirit guides, your higher selves.  if you are calling out enough, they will find a way to help you.  to make themselves visible to you, they may have  to solidify themselves.  this seems to be a way they can lower their vibration- by becoming physical.  this happened to me before with angels.  i was in a very low vibe place, but i had an obe where i met loads of them.. they were made out of wood.

just a theory anyway..

peace~

ascending method = you try to achieve Absolute Truth with your abilities
descending method = you try to make it so Absolute Truth will descend to you

fantasticaly said- so true.

actually, the first time i consciously projected was through hearing stuff...

it was like a radio show going on in the background,

it was very interesting to me.. i had never experienced this before.. so i listened.

as i cconcentrated, images began to form before my eyes.

before i knew it, i was part of a lucid vision.

peace~

erynys, i cant explain what happened to you.

all i can tell you is that something similar has been happening to me for a few months.

seeing unknown faces~ in visions~

and it has been happening to others.

some believe, it is people projecting themselves- through 'the Grid'...

trying to make themslves known, to others.. so that we can recognise eahother..

for the Great Awakening.

im open to that suggestion

(of course  ) ..

but really,

i have no idea.

keep me posted if you discover anything.

Peace~

violet

x

 

peace TalaNay~

blessed Be

xx

i shared a dream with someone once.

i believe the person must carry the same core core vibration as you for this to happen.

peace~

ie... peace?

inner and outer?

 

ku-mba..YA  m' lord-

 

well.. it starts somewhere!

but hey- what else are we constantly searching for?

peace~