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You can consult pages 287-289 in Astral Dynamics about Breathing problems while attempting a projection. I have the same problem and those pages were very useful. It happens to be a popular problem so i help it helps a lot of you

heh, whenever i go lucid, i ALWAYS think other people are dreaming WITH me, its like a bad habit. i start talking to them, making them realize theyre dreaming. i know we're not all connected through dreams, but whenever i do dream, i believe this is true. its weird every time too. o well....

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see guys, im tellin you, the only existence after death is non existence...!!!!

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my friend told me to buy the book a while ago (months), so i did. i was extremly skeptical about it all, but abotu a week ago i all of a sudden started believing it all and reading the book non stop, and doing the exercises. i predict my first OBE to be in about 4-5 weeks, hopefully.

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i have a strong belief that the only existence after death is non existence. its hard to comprehend, but think about it. think about this quote..

Death is how it was like before you were born. You remember how good that was, don't you?

my friend tells me if that's true, than most astral theories cant be true. so therefor my theory must be false. but.. i don't want to live an eternity after this life. that would defeat the whole purpose of even living! hmmmmm VERY confusing

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awesome thanks

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thx man

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pretty weird, is it like that for everyone? o yah and one question. how long hafve you been practicing/researching astral projection before you first projection? my friend told me it could take months but hell, maybe if its devoted enough it shouldnt.

thx

RelliK

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thx but whats this 90 day program thing?! *confused!*

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im unaware of the 90 day OBE program? can u explain more?

but the pages im pretty sure are talking about Astral Dynamics.. by Robert Bruce.

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i still havent had my first OBE but ive had many lucid dreams. of course ive only been researching astral projection for about 5 days ive been reading astral dynamics about 3-4 hours a day. the excercises are really interesting and effective

it sounds like a good excercise but i dont have enough time to do it every day


can i read up on the excercises in 'astral dynamics?'

thx
-RelliK (reality check!

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Edited by - RelliK on 05 March 2002  00:43:06

heya i have AIM: RelliK2600

i also have IRC but i dot quite have the hang of it. um yah.. anyway ill check that irc channel lata thx

anyone feel free to IM me

or icq: 106306550

thx
-RelliK

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yah astral vision is when you see 360 degrees and then some. but your mind cant comprehend it, because of the habit it creates here. but i think over enough practice people over come the habit and are actually capable of seeing it. it'd be like a round eye that's retina stretches around the whole thing, itd just be a weird experience.

the first time i project im almost sure ill wake up like 10 seconds later. ill just loose all relaxation and become excited lol. i wont be able to help it, i just know it. thats prolly what happened to you.

my sn is RelliK2600, email address is rellik2600@hotmail.com , can you send me a link to that 'tease your body to move' method? thx

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yah its usually breathing that keeps me from gaining full relaxation, when you breath on your back, it lifts up the rest of your body and its just sorta distracting for me.

this sounds like a famous problem, it should be written about more, yah?

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Hey man. Im 14 and i just started reading 'astral dynamics' three days ago but ive been reading it non-stop (about 3-4 hours a day!) ive had the book a while but ive always been really skeptic but for some reason i just all of a sudden started believing it and today was my first projection attempt. I kinda mixed three methods..

i started out with the lift method, where you just float upward. then i started the rocking method (rock back and forth while in midair) and then i dropped those two and started the rope technique. it was pretty hard to concentrate but when i got it..

i started feeling the 'vibrations,' my whole body felt VERY warm and wit was like VERY pulsating (for want of a better word) then i literally felt like i was floating. i had my hands on my bed, but i could no longer feel the bed. my arms and chest felt the warmest, and had the most vibrations. i dont know how close i was to exitting, but then very soon it was dinner time and my mom opened the door

i was in a sorta 'trance' state but it was ruined.
theres always tomorro i guess.

my question is: was i close? i was doing it for at least 30 minutes i know that for sure.

also a question for DjMidgetMan: when you had your first obe, what did you do? did you experience the 'astral vision' and could you feel yourself defying the laws of physics?


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