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#1
Thanks guys, I'll try the techniques out and holler if anything happens.

Summerlander, I know your stories from AVforums, I visit once in a while but don't post since I don't have much time on my hands.
#2
And how long does the seperation take once you feel the "tinglings" and "vibes" ?
#3
Quote from: personalreality on May 12, 2011, 18:12:14
don't try too hard.  by this i mean don't over analyze.  in fact, don't think at all if you can.

that was my big problem.  i was always too excited and i was anticipating the experience way too much.  it pretty much ensured failure.

you gotta let go as much as possible, which i difficult i know.  but spend some time meditating (i do it as i'm going to sleep at night, which is probably creating a bad habit, but oh well) and practicing clearing your mind.

the state of mind you want to be in is described best (imo) by Robert Peterson.  He calls it the quiescent mind, which he likens to the moment after you see a flash of lightning.  In that brief moment you stop doing everything and focus all of your attention on your ears, waiting to hear the thunder that will soon crash.  That is the state of mind you're shooting for.

Hmm, I've gotten that white flash before, however it would come when something outside would make a sound which would startle me, and then I'll see that white flash. Btw, does that thunder sound frighten you when it comes ?
#4
Hello everyone

It's been a while, I remember asking questions on the Astral months ago on here. I've been trying to project for a while now but the furthest I've reached is through reaching Bedeekin's method, which IMO, is really frickin hard on waking up through a 1-2 hour nap. However, today, while lying down and trying to project, I did feel my body paralyzed at one point, but I knew it wasn't the "Sleep paralysis" which we all know about. I mean I know that I can move, and it also occurs once in a while when trying to project, at times I do feel like I'm running out of breath when I try to longer the process. One thing I did notice though, is that at one point today, I can swear that I could see a visual of the ceiling even though obviously my eyes were closed, but it was really interesting and nice and I kind of regret opening my eyes, there's always that fear which angers me at times.  

All in all, does anyone have any experiences similar to these, and can you give me any more tips that might help me project

Thank you,
Eddy
#5
Don't know if this has been posted before so here goes. Enjoy :)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4164970/66-Astral-Projection-Techniques
#6
Cheers Xanth  :-)
#7
Xanth, I just tried it last night. Had a pre-nap for more or less an hour, stayed awake for an hour and then tried going back to sleep. It was hard going back to sleep though, next thing I realized, I woke up at 5, checked if I felt somewhat paralyzed but nope.

Is Bedeekin's method having a "pre-nap", waking up, then going back to sleep for "sleep paralysis" or is it just having a "pre-nap", waking up, and then trying to get an OBE ?
#8
Regarding that, a friend of mine who just knew about Astral projection yesterday got fascinated by it and we just randomly tried doing different techniques last night on how to reach it. Now, he's a lucid dreamer. I've barely been in one. He's just starting to have some control on what he can do in his dreams but the one he had yesterday after knowing about AP was a nightmare. He was in a store, or bank, most likely a store and was buying something he couldn't remember. His card got rejected and as soon as that happened, he felt a 300 pound security guard right behind him. He held my friend and asked him where he got the card from. My friend had told the security guard that it was his and that it wasn't stolen, but the security guard just grabbed him really hard and my friend had woken up at that point with hyperventilation. And he wasn't completely going on to F3 too.
#9
I read most of the phasing manual. I was surprised at how short the "How can I phase" part was. I thought it would be more complex, like meditation. Do you want add anything to it Xanth ?
Oh, and reading about how phase 2 is the sketchy phase, do we just concentrate more to get to phase 3 ? Moving up to the other phases was the only confusing part.
#10
I'm reading it right now.

Is there any explanation why people don't know about Astral Projection ?
#11
Interesting. Quite a long read with phasing. Do you need to feel sleepy for it to happen ?
#12
Can I put an alarm-clock for the sleep paralysis ?

What method do you use personally ?
#13
Oh, sounds great so far.

I'm just confused at the one part, I'm not really sure what you mean by Sleep paralysis. Will I certainly wake up in the night after doing the "pre-nap" ?
#14
Thanks for having the time to reply back Xanth, I've read quite a lot of the posts here and I think you're an excellent poster.

Quote from: Xanth on November 01, 2010, 10:58:16
Welcome to the Astral Pulse BlackAndWhite.His method is about "pre-naps".
Basically, you take a pre-nap for 1 - 2 hours before you actually go to bed, then you get up for 30 - 60 minutes and do whatever you want... THEN go to bed normally.  This should wake you up in the middle of the night in Sleep Paralysis... from which you can then go OBE from.

Oh really ? Hmm, I guess I wasn't doing those pre-naps then. So I "pre-nap" for 1 -2 hours, get up, stay up for 30 - 60 minutes then start his method ? Or do I just go to sleep and I will wake up automatically in which I will then start to AP, from OBE.


Quote from: Xanth on November 01, 2010, 10:58:16Demons only exist in the minds of those who believe in them.  Don't believe in them and you won't see any.  There's no need to "attack" that which doesn't exist.  :)

Oh okay, then what is Kurt doing when he is in the AP to meet all those "Aliens" and such ? What about those people who saw evil spirits next to their physical body ? Is it their imagination ?

Quote from: Xanth on November 01, 2010, 10:58:16You can not be harmed while projecting.

That's good to know.

Quote from: Xanth on November 01, 2010, 10:58:16If you get far enough to where you'll be able to meet other people... you'll just know.  :)
However, If you ever feel uncomfortable with whomever you're meeting just go somewhere else.  Simple really.  :)

Awesome.

Me and my friend wana AP together, he's in another continent, as am I. I understand it's possible. Do I just imagine his name and I will pop up in his room or...do we schedule a meeting somewhere in our imagination ? Have you AP'd with a friend ?
#15
Hello there,

I have just recently found out about Astral Projecting and was quite surprised how not many people had known about it. Now I've tried doing it for the past 2 days but had no luck using Bedeekin's method, but I guess it needs total concentration, something which needs practice. I was wondering about a few questions though that bedazzled me before I enter.

1. I have read from stories on this site and others that there are evil spirits/demons or whatever it's called and can attack you. How does one attack this spirit, or demon or whatever it is ? I don't want to enter my projection for the first time and see something sucking my/friend's/relative's chakra or energy and not know what to do.

2. Can you die and never come back ? I read that someone got shot, but was still alive in his physical body however weird that is...I'm assuming it's not a biggie as most sites say it's not really that important, unless you're like Kurt and meets up with "greys" etc..something which I don't really wana mess with until I know what's going on in the planes

3. Trust. Who am I to trust ? How do I know who to trust or do I trust no one ? Or do you just feel the presence of these beings and that's when you know instinctively and just go with the flow.

Thanks