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Hello,

I'm hoping someone could help me with a problem I've been having.  I'm yet to have a controlled OBE, but have come close consciously in addition to flying dreams (which I believe to be OBE).  I seem to have little difficulty in feeling the vibrations, however I can never hold them.  I feel them start around my hamstrings or solar plexus, but then my eyes kind of...freak out.  They start moving as if I was in REM sleep.  It lasts for a few seconds until I cannot bear to keep my eyelids shut.  Has anyone had this problem?  Can anyone suggest what I could do?

Thanks for the direction Conn.

Last night I attempted the index to thumb technique to quell the REM, and it worked!  As I felt the vibrations start lightly, I tried to keep them light.  As they grew I felt the energy rise into my face. I did that rubbing bit, which calmed them down.  I did have trouble keeping the vibrations at a light frequency, but I still found it successful.  With practice I should get better.  Ok, I'm rambling, I'm sure you've heard a thousand stories such as mine, so again thanks for your advice!

Thanks for your replys.  They have helped more than I could describe!  Anyhoo...

I have been using the Monroe Institutes hemi-sync tapes.  I've found them to be very effective in helping me relax.  I guess I don't realize how deep of a trance state I am in.  The problem lies with the fact that I can't obtain the buzzing without the REM creeping up on me - very frustrating!!!  I'll try to stay away from the brink as you were insinuating que-gon.  That makes sense.

I'll try that method Conn and let you know the results.  Hopefully I can maintain the buzzing while moving my physical.  (I've never done this successfully) In time I suppose.  Just one question - is projection possible without the vibrational state?  (in a consistent & repeatable way)

Thanks again!