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you decide. I for one think so. Im not entirely convinced that there are were any "strong" ties between iraq and any terrorist organizations, other than the fact that Iraq is in the middle east, and the terrorists "being middle eastern" were to. But regardless of whether or not there were any ties i think this war is a good thing. Its imperitive we show other nations we wont take s*** sitting down. Even if iraq didnt do anything to begin with, who cares? I think every now and then its "good practice" to show your might just so other nations dont screw with you. This may seem insensitive but i dont even care about the innocent people in iraq that are dying, I say bulldoze their homes and plant a wal-mart with an american flag on top, for no other reason than the fact that we can.

ok, am i the only one that would rather be punched in the throat than hear another person on lucidity.com say that an OBE is a Lucid Dream.....im a huge genius watch this...if OBEs were LDs why do you have them during cardiac arrest, or why do you have them when on drugs, or why do runners sometimes get them when running.
 I have news for you, these people arent asleep.

conclusion: OBEs are NOT LDs
(anyone who thinks otherwise) <--stupid

ah just one more thing. Regardless of whether or not you support violence or non-violence. Dont listen to the media when they make "extremism" out to be something bad. Extremism is an word cowards use when your world view seems to threaten theirs. Do you want to live a moderate life? i know i dont.

i am still unconvinced there was ever a real threat in iraq. the bottom line is there were no WMDs found, period. we can talk all day about how magical fairies came down from never never land and took them away.



Heres the other bottom line, your either a peaceful individual or your not. there is no middle ground....you cant on one hand claim to want peace, and then on the other hand go to war. Either you want peace or you dont want peace. Either you want war or you dont want war. are you starting to understand? 0's and 1's are what govern the universe you idiots. In many ways saddam was more respectable than bush and many americans in his honesty. he was honest about how savage he was and didnt think twice. he didnt restrain himself to hide behind bovine excrement political agendas.


So when we talk about violence, there are only 2 ways to be completely honest......you either are 100 percent for peace, or you are 100 percent for war. The minute you become 99% for one side and 1% for the other you have just become a hypocrit.
Since its a fact that your either peaceful or your not peaceful, people who claim to be "forced into war" are full of excrement.

Ghandi was an honest man in that he did not believe in war at any time. The teaching of Ahimsa (non-violence) does not mean (non-violence while it suits me)...it means non-violence, period. You could slit ghandi's throat and he would appologize for bleeding on your shirt. Hitler was also an honest man, in that he did not give a rats butt about you, and he was 100 percent dedicated to taking over the world, and he would fight to the death to do that. I respect both of those individuals for their stances and see beauty in each. Not like todays excuse soaked society.
There is no such thing as a tasteful war and anyone that thinks their is is an idiot.

quote:Oh, and Hannah, my remarks were not aimed at anyone in particular and war has always been about money. Weapons producers always get rich during wartime. Name the war and you will find a lot of people who made a lot of money from it. Not all of them Americans. Some of the Euro anger towards us comes from political leaders who are just ticked off that the big money contracts for rebuilding and updating Iraq's infrastructure went to American companies. They hate us, but certainly had their hands out when it came to wanting some of that contract money. How hypocritical is that?

Even i think this is deplorable. this is the most materialistic bunch of garbage iv ever heard. you act as if its "acceptable" to behave this way. When i was fighting NHB i was willing to fight for FREE, because i love fighting. you act as if the fact that weapons manufacturers get rich during war time means nothing at all and is ok.

quote:I truly feel sorry for all of you my American friends, because from what it seems your president pushed you into some deep trouble and it will take years and lots of money before you'll be able to leave Iraq.
If it cheers you up, the Polish president didn't look at this from a wider angle either.
thanks

lol

lol excuse me while a crap myself in awe at the all knowing george carlin.

hey great points,im a fair man so i think i agree with allot of what you said......in thinking about this though im confronted with another issue, is whether or not a war is "just" or not, based on the final outcome?

is a war started for wrong reasons with a positive outcome, better than a war started for the right reasons with a bad outcome?....hmmmmmmm

quote:George W. is known to have had a grudge against Saddam because of the relation between Bush Sr. and Saddam.

I dont blame bush for doing this. Saddam threatened his family...and i know if you threaten MY family, I collect your f*c** head. So i say let bush protect his family.


I dont agree with you either jenadots. But what caught my eye was this part of what you said.

quote:Unfortunately, every day more little kids are being trained as fanatical terrorists in the Islamic world. So it could be a least a generation before we see the last of them.

my mind went completely numb after reading this. Do you honestly believe that there is a "finite" stash of terrorists in the world? And that we will "Get the last of them" ever? Im discusted at the actions of republicans in how they hide behind "we are helping the iraqi people bs". We dont give a damn about the iraqi people.


Do you ever wonder why the united states doesnt have a bombing every week like israel? It would be very easy for a terrorist to make a bomb out of fertilizer like old tim mcvey did, so you wouldnt even need to difficult to attain materials. Israel is more trigger happy than the US, so its not because of fear. Plus what would a terrorist blowing himself up have to worry about in the first place, he would be dying in the incident. You comment here just doesnt make sense to me. These people are happy to die in the name of their cause so fear isnt even an issue to them. if these guys are one thing....its that they are hard-asses. They are hard-asses to the extreme.

quote:Oil? where is it? I haven't noticed any decrease in gasoline prices around the world.

The largest stash of oil in the world is under iraq. Why wouldnt we want it? But perhaps a better question is.....why shouldnt we take it?

quote:Chenney & Halburtin? He made millions before and he will again when he is out of office. There are not a whole lot of companies in the world who can rebuild oil fields and equipment. And better it be an American company than one from somewhere else - it is our hard earned tax dollars that are paying for the rebuilding of Iraq. They will end up with a better infra-structure than most cities in the USA.

Again your missing the point, and i cant believe im agreeing with the hippy above you, but you need to be carefull about letting corperations chum up with the military. All in all its a bad idea to let corperations chum up with the military , American company or not. I dont believe that america is somehow magically more benevolent than the iraqi's. if we didnt have the constitution bush, or any other leader wouldnt think twice about doing the things that saddam did (in my oppinion anyways).

ok the spin stops here.....when you boil religion down what you have is "worldview". atheism IS a "worldview" just like "religion" is a "worldview". Both make assertions...if neither were making assertions they wouldnt exist....give me a break. Im an atheist and even i know that. I hate being an atheist because most atheists are stupid anti-war hippies. A major tenent of atheism should infact include killing hippies.

- i think critical thinking has officially died.

quote:What evidence do you have of such an event? NONE! Why does it happen, is it because you say it does or what? You fail to provide evidence. You are just one of those religious nuts that need to be silenced. He who makes the claim must also provide evidence.

im not religious at all you moron.
http://english.ytmnd.com/

i write AI for a video game company and most likely know more about science than you so shut your hole. Iv DONE astral projection and i know ALL the theories behind it....iv personally spoken with micheal persinger and steven leberge...there is nothing your saying that we have not heard before....so why do you even bother?

As far as evidence for astral projection yes i do have evidence for it. iv personally validated it in my own personal experiments. Im willing to wager that from the way you sound you dont know ANYTHING about science or neurology. do you even understand the aspects of the brain that play a role in the experiance? Iv heard ALL the theories from the scientific community and the spiritual community, and NEITHER side has a good one. either deal with that or take a hike, no one cares.

Sinestro, logic is not even a christian you tard.


http://youreadumbass.ytmnd.com/

as an "empirical rationalist" how about you shut the h*** up whining, and do it yourself? we all do astral projection already, so either get some experiance or shut your hole and listen.

its rare to view things that correspond to the physical because will and intent shape the experiance.

Neurologists can trigger obes by effecting the brain, think of the brain as the in-between filter of the two states. It should be clear how this is possible with this understanding.

Kazbadan.....ingo swann and joseph mcmoneagle are ex government employees, not random new age joes off the street. They worked for the stargate program back in the 70s....if they say there is a conspiracy there just might be.

hypnogogia is one thing.......but what of those who have OBE while walking down the street? this is NOT hypnogogia....you would need to claim they were in fact in a full blown dream while going about their daily life...which is preposterous. some people have obes while jogging...and observe their jogging body below. perhaps i should have been more specific in my original post..... i do believe there is a connection between OBE and lucid dreaming..... but i think it is rediculous to say that the "Lucid Dreaming" explanation neatly explains these states of conciousness. I dont know where you heard that we are "always" dreaming. Even when your asleep your not dreaming the entire time you lay asleep, only at certain times.

MajorTom......but were you able to validate that your girlfriend of the time was indeed watching a vampire movie when you went to visit her, and when you saw the place crawling with vampires?

yes, holy is right we use all of our brain, just not at any given time. The problem with the "telepathic" explanation for projection is that its just as frivolous as the astral plane explanation. You are replacing one unknown thing with another, and without even accounting for the nature of what telepathy is.
 im not suggesting either explanation is rediculous, by any means, but you have yet to account for your "telepathic" explanation. Or what you mean by illusory. This happens allot, people say "oh its telepathy", as if the medium for telepathic communication is something we understand and have sound theories for.