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Windows can make me conscious, because I feel the urge to fly out through them. Clouds also denounce that I'm dreaming, because they will show what we can't see on this side, but they don't necessarily make me lucid. The same happens with mirrors.

Peter Pan is a character that I associate with astral travel and lucid dreaming:
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2013/11/jm-barrie-peter-pan.jpg

Is there an icon, object or even a character that you associate with lucidity?

We know the astral is where concepts can become reality, like the Astral Pulse Island. It is as real as a song, conceived and 'recorded' to be experienced with one sense, but not as real as Hawaii, that you can visit and experience with all senses. However, many of us have had confirmations that there is also an objective aspect.

The Greeks talked about the gate of ivory and the gate of horn, through which dreams could come and present reliable information (horn gate), or unreliable information (ivory gate). Premonitory, revelatory and all kinds of helpful dreams are no illusions. Those who like science should know that important scientific discoveries were made when the researchers were asleep. The structure of the atom envisioned by Niels Bohr, and the periodic table devised by Dmitri Mendeleev are good examples of that.

Now when it comes to describing higher planes of existence, if evidence cannot be presented, it is always up to the reader to decide how much one is willing to accept as possible.

Nota Bene;
This was not a pure projection into the astral realm but I suspect it was close.

On a side note, something that could seem terrifying to some, but we are explorers who like to learn, right (?), is a concept I've read in Japanese mythology, the existence of false paradises in higher realms. Here's an excerpt from the book Tourists in Paradise - Writing the Pure Land in Medieval Japanese Fiction:

Imposter Pure Lands are a significant danger for Pure Land Buddhist devotees in medieval Japanese fiction. [...] the Buddhist guardian deity Bishamonten in his previous human existence encounters no less than three false paradises, two of which are claimed to be "the Pure Land," in the course of his own Grand Tour through hell and the outer cosmos. The Prince avoids them thanks to the bodhisattva Jizo, whom he meets beside the Sanzu River in the Land of the Dead, and who warns him to beware.

Abstract
Late-medieval Japanese fiction contains numerous accounts of lay and monastic travelers to the Pure Land and other extra-human realms. In many cases, the "tourists" are granted guided tours, after which they are returned to the mundane world in order to tell of their unusual experiences. This article explores several of these stories from around the sixteenth century, including, most prominently, Fuji no hitoana sōshi, Tengu no dairi, and a section of Seiganji engi. I discuss the plots and conventions of these and other narratives, most of which appear to be based upon earlier oral tales employed in preaching and fund-raising, in order to illuminate their implications for our understanding of Pure Land-oriented Buddhism in late-medieval Japan. I also seek to demonstrate the diversity and subjectivity of Pure Land religious experience, and the sometimes startling gap between orthodox doctrinal and popular vernacular representations of Pure Land practices and beliefs.

What do you think about this idea?

For example, a popular notion that has gotten traction recently is that "astral projection", "lucid dreaming" and "dreams" are one and the same. I understand how easy it is to come to this conclusion. If 99% of people who get OBE never get to the true astral plane this is exactly what they will conclude. And for them it becomes true because they stop trying to reach the higher ethereal realms. (It still doesn't mean they are right).

I can relate both to what Xanth is saying and what Robert is saying, although I accept the consensus here that whenever you go to sleep you become aware of and experience things in the astral plane.

How do I differentiate an astral projection from a lucid dream? How I got there. The beginning of a lucid dream may be difficult to remember, and I can be anywhere, usually in the middle of a story. My astral projections start from where my body is laying asleep, so I'm usually moving away from bed and exploring the astral version of my house. There's no story going on and I can decide where to go and what to do, or at least try. In lucid dreams, even when I'm very lucid, I'm still dealing with the situations presented by the dream, so in theory my choices are limited.

I explore the possibility that there are no places in the astral realm, and that you can be anywhere and anywhen, given you know how to do that. Been lucid dreaming since I was a child, so I have 30 years of experience with conscious dreams, and started astral projecting in adulthood, about 16 years ago. Not trying to brag about it but my best experiences were unspeakable and I don't feel like telling anyone about them, but when compared to the worst ones, the only thing that makes them better is their content, visually they are of the same quality. If they were movies you would simply find them under different genres in a store.

I'm curious to hear about your experiences in the higher ethereal realms and how you describe the place.

The shadow jumping by itself is an interesting alternative, it does look like that once you think about it.

In this particular video I suppose it could be anything, either physical or nonphysical, because one cannot say with 100% certainty what the shadow really is or what could be projecting it. The hypothesis of an object falling did not convince me, and I have encountered at least one other footage where a shadow creature appeared, and it left me with no doubt that it was a nonphysical creature. There was an accident with a motorcycle in which two men were killed. The shadow moved like a worm from one body to another and departed like a dark fog, making the strangest high pitched noise.

I've researched a lot into this in the past but not so much anymore. Religious texts say that some of these beings actually live inside the human body or soul causing disturbances, like parasitic entities. In the same way that a person whose immune system is weak is more prone to be affected by diseases, someone who does not have a spiritual awareness and discipline is more likely to be a host to some of these beings.

We need to remember that in a lot of the planets they have preserved both the knowledge and the works of the ancient gods, so they may still pretty much live in ritualistic societies. 

They have the great advantage of having a complete tens of millennia old history of their culture, compared to us whose history is only a few hundred years old. And even then, if you look at a picture of a city 100 years ago, it is like it was a totally different civilization living there. And indeed it was. 

Those who, unlike here on Earth, didn't suffer the major catastrophes that destroyed the nations, didn't have to start from scratch like earthly humans had. For that reason the concept of development can be strange to some. We can only develop things while we think we haven't achieved what is truly good, since it is usually the need and the dissatisfaction that compels us to change.

The earth can be considered a degenerated world, where many people live their lives completely oblivious to their true history and the powers above.

This happened last year in the city of Fortaleza, Brazil. Fortunately no one was hurt and nothing bad happened, as the rescuers were able to prevent the worst. A woman was threatening to jump from the window of her apartment, and a dark figure appeared moving upwards from the window beneath her. The shadow is visible from the beginning of the footage, rising subtly.

Everyone talked about it when it happened and they argued that it was just the window screen that fell off. However there is something else. At 22 seconds a light flashes quickly beside the woman on the building wall, and it apparently scared the shadow away, which you can see fleeing downwards.

The footage: https://youtu.be/2AKlZY8kc78

Was this a battle between supernatural beings? You be the judge.

There's another thing. Imagine you're walking over a bridge and hear a call for help coming from below. Someone's on the water. Now, you're just a passerby, there's no guarantee you'll be able to really help whoever is in need down there. The person on the water will be lucky if someone good happens to be passing by when he screamed.

Once I was astral projecting and raised my hands requesting to be raised from the world, but I wasn't very lucid and didn't say any names, so my call was to just anyone around. Then a claw grabbed my hand and started pulling me. When I saw the creature's face, I felt disturbed and attacked him. He laughed.

Well, it was my fault, I had invited him, but I wasn't expecting to encounter a being like that, so I apologized for my bad behavior, because I had no right to attack him. If I had the right, he wouldn't have laughed. I was prejudiced against it because I was waiting for a higher being, not a monster.

This is the worst case scenario, meaning that anyone might show up. But I've had successful experiences calling out to specific names of beings.

Thanks Xanth, good to be interacting again.

Recently I was meditating about this same subject, how we look for an external element to have an internal fulfillment, a sense of realization.

There is something that I call the 'Double Torment', which is something that I train myself to avoid. For example, when someone punches you, you will feel both the physical pain and an anger that will make you want to hit the person back. Although hitting back will not ease your physical pain, it could even hurt you more, cause you could break a finger in the process, it is a natural response to an aggression. The problem is that this type of response will not make you feel peaceful afterwards, it is actually generating a lot internal trouble, as if receiving a single blow wasn't enough, now you want to engage in a fight to see who can be more violent.

Of course it is not easy not to react, but as LightBeam said, we're talking about gaining knowledge and understanding in life, and not simply acting out of instinct. We cannot always control our external circumstances, but our internal state is ours, and it is up to us how things will affect us.

Like you said, if you can feel the happiness of flying, to be really flying would only change your external condition, because inside you're already fulfilled. So, we have to work with what's within our reach.

It took a while to put this together, but it was at first frightening to see things differently, but then it became enjoyable as I started developing myself in ways I never thought were possible.

The future to me is closer to the past than the present, because what humanity may find is that our (illusory) sense of isolation on this planet is just a modern situation, not something that will end once we make contact with another civilization. Because, who's to say it is not happening right now already, while people watch tv and eat pizza?

Our perception of reality is a fragile small box that the powers that be try to protect at all cost.

Glad about the reception

Hello everyone. I used to be active here in the past, when I shared a common view with most of the members of the Pulse. Some years ago I left in order to proceed with my own researches. Since then, my understanding of things changed so radically that ended up isolated, and kept most of my ideas to myself and a few close friends.

But I have learned so many things that I simply can't keep them all to myself, so I decided to share, and I don't care if people are going to believe or not.

One of the things that I've learned is that if you cannot find the truth for yourself, then there is absolutely no hope for you. Who can you trust in a world where everyone is after his own interests? If I say one thing is true and another person says it's false, how do you decide who is right if the answer is not so obvious?

I believe that there is hope, and if you really want to know the truth about something that is out of reach, whether because it's in the past or a place far away, a divine part within you can show you the answers, as long as you seek them with a pure heart and a sincere desire to learn.

You can check out my website to understand what I'm talking about. I have all the evidences to back up my claims, and I'm going to gradually share them. As a monk I dedicate myself exclusively to developing my spiritual abilities and knowledge.

My astral experiences deal with a lot of these spiritual and unconventional things that I study, so I feel uncomfortable relating them, but when it's possible I'll continue giving my perspective on other people's experiences.

http://hiddenhistory.awardspace.com/pictures.html

Don't be indifferent to this.

Before going to the 3rd heaven, make a visit to Elysium, it's much easier. 

They created our bodies according to the shape of their bodies, but with the face resembling the image of Immortal Man.

Why do you want to astral poject?

How is their image so close to what they really look like in the astral as well? Even though I haven't seen any yet I have seen what people see in the astral... on google etc... of what these guys look like. And they look just like something out of a movie like Paul for example. xD Was it the 1960s leaked footage of the aliens that started it? I hope this makes sense.

And the movies look just like ancient cave paintings, like the wondjinas for example.

Only if you drank stronger water of forgetfulness. 

When souls are to enter the flesh they are made to drink from it so they won't remember their actions in a previous life nor where they came from. But that is something everyone in the world goes through.

There are what people call incubus and succubus, who could appear in dreams to seduce and keep the dreamer distracted.

The question is making a wrong assumption, that we go to the astral after we die. The Astral is where dreams take place, it's neither heaven nor hell, and though you may have some glimpses of what is hidden, most of it remains unseen, it's like a bubble and the truth is outside the bubble.

But to answer your question, I plan to pass through their realms and find my repose with the spirits in the great indestructible aeons. :}

I think the Moon should be moved to orbit some other planet, give it to the mercurians :}

Hey Noy, have you had strange experiences about the moon?

Once I was told by a very special 'person' during an experience that the moon is an evil thing.

You should check out Alexander Abian, he had some interesting things to say about the moon.

Well said, jeffd.

I also don't like the notion that dying is just like a permanent astral projection, and that your silver cord simply snaps and you are not able to return. From my experiences an A.P. is like your own personal computer, in which you can mostly access what you can put in your hard drive, sort of like a virtual reality. Death would then be like the world wide web, a tottally different reality.

Define 'world peace'. A place where everyone is loving and caring for one another all the time? How can that happen in a reality where the needs of our bodies are our main concern? A beast will kill to serve its needs, and so will a lawless or impious man. One of the things that distinguishes men from beasts is our responsibility to be ethical, due to the understanding that there may be a greater purpose to our earthly existence, that maybe we're being observed, and our actions now will determine our destiny in this life and in the next one.

So, to answer your question, no, you can remove everything from the mortal world and you won't get peace, because this is a deficient type of existence, where senseless people struggle in vain against death by destroying one another.

If I were to answer this again I would have to reveal all my dearly kept secrets 

Too many things happened in the last 5 years.

Ego? I thought I wrote that I learned nothing, not everything... What can we learn from astral projection that we can't from google?

What can we learn from living that we can't from watching soap operas?

Ive heard its made of cheese 

If it is, then they have taken some bites out of it