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is that linked closely to an OBE? those whooshing noises were deffinately very intense and sound like they were a lot like what others experience before an OBE occurs.

cheers for your insight, nikk

perhaps i should add also, as well as the first experience (when i actually opened my astral eyes and could see my ghostly hands infront of my face - which was cool) i didnt not purposely set out to project, it was 'accidental'. once more i had come home from uni for a sleep as i was so tired (i was falling asleep in my lectures) but i couldnt seem to fall asleep properly for about an hour then it happened.

hi guys, it's been a long time sin ce i last posted on here.

just had a similar experience to my first time, ie. i suddenly became aware of a series of 'whooshing' noises. at first they were pretty scary (had the sensation of what i imagine it would be like to have a ghost whizzing past) but then i remembered what they were! so i let them continue and after a few seconds i tried to pull myself out of my body, except that i soon felt that i couldnt breath, so i paniced a little and wished myself back to normal again, then the experience ended just like that. i'm frustrated that i didn't take full advantage of the oppurtunity and i didnt think to open my astral eyes (i was too excited i guess). however, despite this brief and seemingly uninspiring event, i consider it to be one of the most enlightening experiences of my life!

how did i manage to get to that state? i really wanna do it again!

cheers, nik

now that i have had an OBE even though small, is there any advice you could give me to help me do it again, now that i know what the signs are etc. The only hard thing i guess is the getting into a relaxed trance state - the vibrations were very strong and sudden and there had not been anything unusual about that morning that could have triggered it.

Please help!

As it happens, on sunday morning i woke up to my dad sanding down the door frames down in the landing and had nothing better to do than read. I picked up Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce and started reading it (I had started once before but never got round to carrying on). After reading for about half an hour i felt sleepy again so i put the book down.

The next thing i remember is just lying still with my eyes closed, but i could hear my family downstairs talking etc in the kitchen, but i had no idea that i was in somekind of trance, because all of a sudden I could sense these amazingly strong vibrations - quite violent and so it through me a bit at first. It so happened that i had been reading about the vibrations in the book half an hour previous! even i know that this is such a coincidence. anyway, after the initial confusion i remembered to just rise out of your body whilst hearing the vibrations, which i did at will! it was so weird. All this time my physical eyes were obviously closed, then i opened my real time doubles's eyes. it gave me the fright of my life cos i saw these translucent hands in front of me, i could only see the outline. once more, the image was so real and clear. i could feel a warmish sensation around my lower torso and at that moment i tried to shout "DAD, DAD! but no sound came out.

this was strange because i was completely aware when this was all happening, polar opposites from dreams. i could think and use my memory and common sense etc. i calmed down soon after and just remember, wake up at will. sure enough i did, i bolted up straight in my bed eyes wide open.

I was completely aware of what just happened and was really excited. by the way, my hands were under the quilt to the Right of me as i was lying on my side, but the appeared up in front of me when i looked for them in real time.

this was the most bizarre experience i have ever had in my life. I'm kicking my self for not exploring, but I'm sure it was quite hard for me to move in real time.

How can i induce this kind of thing again, getting into a trance state (i have tried by simply relaxing before but it hasn't worked - why is it now when nothing was intentional for me - it was accidental!) and can anyone explain why i found it hard to move my real time double?

thanks a lot, Nikk

ps i was also only half out of body lol, about 3 inches or so!

Hi,

This is a question which I asked myself today but couldn't pin it down to anything. It seems to becoming one of those words that's losing its meaning.

I'm interested in your ideas about it,

thanks

Hi,

I'm sure many people have this problem and as I'm pretty new to all this stuff I wonder if some of you could post some easy techniques in clearing your mind. I really struggle to do it and I think that once I have mastered this, I will progress more.

Thanks,

Nikk

I was talking to one of my friends, who like me has become very interested in occultism and related topics. He told me that he has talked to a few people who are the same age as my friend and I (15) and he pointed out that it was only at this age that we ever became interested in this stuff; we weren't ignorant to dismiss it as nonsense. Also, what struck us both was the fact that we both have parents that can project, as do the other people that that my friend was talking to. Everyone else it seem sin our school is dismissive of this, and has no desire whatsoever to learn about it, and that their parents have no links either.

I was wondering, does this mean that the 'ability' is hereditary?

Thanks, Nikk

Hi,

My Dad is in a spiritualist Church, and he says that everyone has a guide that's with them all of the time, and that you can communicate with them in the Astral. One thing he told me was that many people's guides are Indians. Is this true, if so why do you think that this is the case? Did the Indians have strong links with the Astral planes?

Hi,

I have tried a couple of times to project once in the vibrational state, but i can't. I can feel something different, for example sometimes i seem to rock around and spin when my physical body is completely still, but i can't seem to get out of it. I think I may not be concentrating much on it. Is there any way in which focuses your mind more? Have you any ideas as to what I can do?

How do I pull myself out of the body? I'm getting quite frustrated at this. Is it just something that comes after a lot of practice or what?

Thanks

Hi

Does this mean you can change, say for argument's sake your hair colour or eye colour? I watched an episode of Horizon once on the BBC last year, backing this idea up, you can *think* yourself thinner or stronger.

It was all to do with the brain cells and their connections to each other. They carried out and experiment where a gymnast was struggling to complete this complex routine and she was told to sit down, relax and close her eyes and go through the routine again and again in her mind. They called it Visualisation. After ten minutes of this, she tried it again and succeeded.

What do you think?

Oi!

I request we go back onto topic!

I want to hear what some of you lot have seen in AP that was awe-inspiring and whether or not you have seen extra terrestrials before and if you have made contact with them. I didn't know it was possible to go into the far reaches of the cosmos when in astral projection.

Hi

My friend Leon claims that yesterday when he was relaxing and preparing to project and was in the vibrational state, he claimed to see a flash of what he described as a girl with black hair, wearing a red necklace and a shirt. This was all of a sudden and at this he said he felt strangely connected in some way. I once read that some people claim to have a watcher or *guide* that is with them all the time. Could this have been Leon's watcher? Just as a matter of interest.

I thought maybe that you couldn't actually physically see your watcher, but it's something Leon felt connected with. What do you think?

Wow, that is so cool! Thanks for sharing it with me. I haven't projected yet, but I'm even more determined to do so now. I can't wait until i finally do.

I know how you must feel when with other people, when you want to talk to them about it and tell them what you can do, but you know they'll think you're a complete nutcase. That's why I think Dad kept it from me for so long. I can imagine this situation at school. However, me and my friend Leon do believe in it, he has been trying for some months now and we talk about it a lot at school. He has been looking at these forums and has found it very useful.

By the way, is there anywhere on this forum where I can read about different techniques into having an OBE? I have tried getting to the vibrational state, but it felt more like rocking, almost dizzy. I want to read about any other ways in which to do it, I'm really interested.

Nikk

The last few nights I have been concentrating on becoming completely relaxing. I got to a point last night when I felt completely relaxed and my hands and arms especially felt almost numb. According to my friend who is also interested in Astral Projection, this is something similar to what is called the 'vibrational state'. I felt as if my mind was rocking from side to side, almost quite violently and I was spinning around and around. At the same time i was completely conscious of my surroundings and very relaxed. Is this a step further to projectig? Is there anything I can do?

Hi

After finding out that my Dad regularly projects, I naturally wanted to ask him a few things that I was curious about. I found out that apparently you are attached to your body with some kind of silver rope. Is this the case for any of you who project too? I read also that the prophets claim to have been in some kind of sleeping form when receiving their messages from God and that they claimed to be attached to their body with a silver chord.

Hi,

I'd just like to say I am really happy to find forums such as these. I have been really interested in the idea of Astral projection fro some time now and I have read quite a lot of stuff on it. I want to introduce myself to everyone here, i know I'll find these forums a great place to learn more stuff and to meet people on the same wavelength as me!

Thanks,

Nikk