Messages

LOL you stole this from
http://www.astralsociety.com/as/Forum//index.php/topic,15145.0.html

and you didn't give credit where credit is due.

Very bad :O

I think the subconscious mind and the "third eye" are closely related

with meditation it is usually pretty easy to use your subconscious mind to recall lost memories, plans you have made, peoples names or #'s that you may of forgotten. I personally don't think people don't forget anything it's just that they don't know how to remember it.

ex: Red wire, Blue Wire, RED WIRE, BLUE WIRE

*enters deep meditation*

I remember now, I do not need to cut any wires in the computer

must press ctrl+alt+?

*subconscious get over here*

me:how do I turn off the computer?

subconscious"click on run and then regedit

me:and then?

subconscious: oh... um... just er... delete everything in regedit and it should uh... turn off!

and the computer turned off and me and my subconscious lived happily ever after

get my point? I forgot it already  

So what about people who have mentioned poltergeist activity and other contact with spirits in the physical? Is that in their mind too?

Most ALL poltergeist activity involves a young girl going through puberty or emotional turmoil in the household.  Many believe this emotional energy causes this effect.  Poltergeist activity is not like it is portrayed in the movies.  AKA chainsaw chasing after you.


Han solo

if I were to die, who says that the dead are not constantly projecting? and if I was evil then I guess I would be a neg? Maybe their is no devil either?

Hell if there are no negs (evil spirits) then the chances of there being good spirits is next to impossible.

summoning, poltergeist, and ghosts in your mind?

ok then...

Sometimes I wonder if these negs aren't a manifestation of a physical or personal thing. A lot of astral traveling can be very subjective, traveling into yourself rather than out. I believe there's a good chance that negs people like your friend encounter are actually a part of themselves.

There's something John Michael Greer said that I see as being very true: today's psychology is yesterday's mysticism/occult. They're very similar, they just use different terminology.

I doubt that, sure in a dream the monsters can be part of yourself, especcialy if you go lucid and become the monsters    

Let me give you an example of one experience he told me about.

When he went on vacation with his family he sensed something and he said
"Ok you've been here longer than me, you can come and go as you please, just leave me and my family alone" he got no reply

then he said "what is your name"

the spirit said Micheal

He left it at that. Later that day he asked a neighbor about the history of that house and the neighbor said it is supposed to be haunted and that three trees planted out back represent 3 sons, one of which died in a war (WWII I think) and guess what the dead sons name was. Micheal :O  Ray warned him to be carefull and that people have died in that house before. Anyway that night his dog died (hit by car)
then on the second day his Mom died ( heart atack), and on the third day his neighbor, the one who told him of the story died(accident?). (this really screwed with his brain)

I don't think those deaths were coincidence, as I doubt the spirit he talked to was just part of himself

I'm sort of wondering that if you truly believe there is no such thing as negs? That it is all in your mind?

lol just so much to think about and so little time to live

when he started doing it in high school he told me he wasn't looking for negs., wasn't even aware they existed. He hints at the possibility that they trick you in to going somewhere, possibly some form of possession. And for him he said that even though they usually can't physically harm you they can make life around you turmoil

I think my overall conclusion is that I'll keep on projecting, but if I get scared I'm coming right  back to the real world

EDIT: and im prolly gunna look in to some psi self defense just in case...

alright if u guys say so, I just thought he was pretty credible because right when I saw him he noticed that i've been able to do this, and a lot of people call him for sort of a ghost buster. But if you guys have done it and never encountered negs. then I'm sure it should be no big deal

k ty for your reply silence

I've talked to some people and it seems like it helps, I know that It takes a lot more than just a tape set to be able to project lol.

I'll keep working at it and I'll check out your link

ty and have fun  

Stillwater,

Just imagine yourself rolling in circles inside your body and roll off onto the floor. This has helped a lot for me in the past, but the downfall is that little bit of 'skepticism' am I really falling onto the floor in the astral or physical.

Sounds like you are getting close but need just to relax, enjoy, and take it to the next step.

Tvos

Weird almost every time I try and fall asleep laying on my back I get this sort of head rush and I feel like im falling. Which is sort of insane because my matress is on the floor and there is no place to "fall too"

I dont think it has anything to do with OBE, I think too much exercise and unhealthy food isn't a good balance lol.

and hope u all love the latality of the lately late reply  which is sort of... late

have fun
cya later  

My uncle just gave me a tape set he got from a guy named Jonathan Parker and the whole time he is playing this sort of music, and the tape set says that he has subliminal messages in the set saying stuff such as (you are protected by an aura of white light)


(astral travel is a natural ability) and good stuff like that.

My question is do you think the tapes work? Not only the ones I relax and listen to but also the ones that I fall asleep while listening too?

Does the subconscious ever sleep?