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So I haven't posted in a long time. Had a negative experience some time ago: basically fell through a dark cloud which was floating above my body into my body and heard loud voices in my head when I woke up, this lasted for a few minutes... turns out it was a fake awakening. When I really woke up no voices etc., however all that happened during my false awakening started to repeat for real aside from all the physical details of the location I was in being accurate.. such as my brother sitting on the couch next to me, then my mum coming home a few mins after... so this freaked me out and I stopped doing stuff. This was a few years back and since then I have physical jerks in my left shoulder when I get tired or angry, actually if I were to pinpoint anger it would come out of my shoulder. I think this is just psychological stuff though and not demon or possession etc. related.

Anyways onto last night (no negative stuff so good for that):
Went to bed at 9:30pm.. woke up at 1:30am.. back to bed at 6:30am so super tired.
I start noticing I am in darkness and can feel my body and am dizzy. Then I start feeling my limps and I can move them, so break out with torso being bit stuck.. but after some time I just get up like I would get up from my bed. So all darkness till now.. then I am in a house. So I move around till I get back into waking up a bit or darkness... then back into the house after feeling my limps. This repeats a couple of times. Always in the same house with slight changes, to the inside and the outside. At times I make it outside but not for long. At times I start doubting if it is actual reality and get afraid of jumping down a balcony to go outside, till I catch myself and realize its still a dream or OOB.
Whenever I wake up briefly I feel very dizzy and can't properly move, then feels like I am falling head first.. as if I did a dive jump backwards, since I am lying on my back in the bed.
At one point I don't end up in the house.. just in complete darkness with no pshysical objects anywhere as far as I can tell. But this was only very brief.
There were some people in the house at times I think, but I can't remember speaking to them and don't think I did. I also had the impression that rooms would change in the house once I went from one room to the next.

So anyway what was this experience?

Also should I pursue OOB more actively again? I used to believe nothing can happen.. but that bad experience, coupled with some other negative ones which were not as extreme though, made me doubt this. Worried that I could pull something back or that a part of me gets stuck in a negative place, so when I do OOB again.. I'll just be in that negative place again and goto find my way out or so.

So was doing a lucid dream / OBE thing.. can't really categorize it.

Anyway it starts on my bed and I am lying in my physical body, but I know I can start moving my arms etc. in the dream form. So I move them up and they are infront of me, with the intention that I want to get up now to move around my room.. but then another thought hits me, why I don't try to create an energy ball?

So I focus energy into my arms and hands (no freaking weird visualizing thing, just the command energy flows through) with the intention of creating a ball which I can see (obviously this should work because thought = creation and I wanted to have a cool energy ball ) but then it goes weird. First my hands disapear, then my arms start disapearing... when like half my arm is gone I wake up because someone woke me by accident. So I am wondering if this was the true form, as we only see ourselfs having a body in dreams only because we have one in the physical realm. Additionally when I woke up and still had my eyes closed I felt so much energy rushing through my arms and hands, tingling all over, but not being able to distinguish properly where my hand was located etc. so much that I thought they must have fallen asleep and my blood supply is cut-off. So I moved them, at this point all tingling stopped and I started realizing where my hands were again... and they were not asleep. So what was this?

Hi,

I have experienced this lately:

I am in a dream in a squad of people who do missions of breaking into places and getting things out of them. This sometimes involves heaving to kill people. Now I am not aware that this is a dream at all and hence feel guilt about what we do.

The part which is interesting is that while I am going through it I am remembering past dreams of being in the same squad doing other missions, and all of these were previous dreams, which I could not recall in my waking state (now I can, as I remember again). It is like my self in that dream has a past and possibly a future in other dreams where I am that person. This person is fully disconnected from any other dreams or from my waking self (with the execeptions of sometimes having people I know in the real world there). At the same time in my last dream I was getting the hint that all of this might be dreams because I remember asking myself the question if I should feel guilty of having to kill people and doing these missions if all was just a dream (on a side note I hate being part of that squad, but I cannot get out of it... I am always right at the start of the mission when it begins)

So what is this phenomenon? How come I have a distinctive self with a past and possible future in dreams which are all interconnected, yet cannot distinguish them as dreams while in them and thinking they are real?

So anyway I am not Asian, just my dreams are for some reason... maybe cause I live in Singapore.. hmm no clue. Just a recent thing.

I dreamt I was in some sort of samurai academy during that time period. The master started fighting all students in a big room, killing everyone quickly. Then he came for me... I threw a small dagger at him and it pierced him. He collapsed shorty then recovered, I was really scared. When I drew my sword.. it was just a freaking dagger sort of thing.. while he had a regular katana with a red cover I think. I threw my second dagger at him, he blocked it with his sword... then threw it back in a much more skill full way and I dodged it. It flew past me on the right, it was targeted at my chest. Now being disarmed I tried to turn and run, at that moment he made steps as fast as lightning towards me and I was shocked... but then he paused and put his sword on the floor. Someone I think tried to approach at that time.. and he just quickly cut into this stomach or something, then put the sword back on the ground. I was scared he would do the same if I tried to approach and that he was luring me in. So I made a few steps back again, but then somehow the sword came closer to me on the ground and I somehow picked it up.. the moment I did, he came at me with lightning speed at something struck the left top of my shoulder and neck hard. Pain went through me and he ran away, and I thought I was dying... till I asked someone and he said I wasn't bleeding. I guess he hit me with the sword cover of the katana.

Fast forward:
I am in a room. One of my asian mentors is there (guy who trains me in real life, is enlighted and highly concious). One of his other but more advanced students is there (femals). There is a girl with me, with whom I had sex before (also in dream... don't get into details lol). My mentors student screams at me that I am falling into an unconcious pattern again, and I don't really love the girl, and I am just doing it for sex. In real life I have issues with relationships to girls, I break up with them after like 2-3 month because I don't feel stuff for them anymore. Her attack was based on that.
I reply that this one is very different, that we belong together and I have a deep connection. That we have a passed life together or so.
I talk to the girl who was my GF to fight me to prove this. We start this epic martial arts fight like in chinese movies, defying grafity and she is blocking my blows with her long hair. Anyways after some time she jumps up, I jump over her like 2-3 meters up and dive down head first towards her, my punch this time goes through and hits her chest making her slam into the ground and she breaks down and cries. After I comfort her somehow I start talking with her if she has a Katana at home. She says yes and that its acient. I tell her if she remembers back then at the academy how only 5 of us were chosen and kept alive on that day and how I still had the masters katana.
My mentor says he approves of her.

Dream sort of ends then....


Cool thing about it... martial art fighting in that style bloody rules!!
But yeah.. maybe past life something... goto find out more or remember more dreams.

Watch it on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AXmJdmzfM

For me a lot that he said made a lot of sense to me and I agree with him.

What about you guys. Discuss

Well I woke up and went back to sleep. Next thing I know is I am on my bed and my body moves without me controlling it. Then it starts to roll without me doing it. My eyes are closed during this and I dont try to do any movements since I might move my physical body and wake up. Then I become aware that I can controll the movements with my thought.
I roll to the side and land on the floor and open my eyes... to test what this is I push my hand through the wall. I try to do the same with my head but fail. So I move to the door and go outside into the house (it just vaguely reminds me off my own house). I procede to fly through a window and into the night (it was acctually day time outside if I had been awake), the street isn't the same as where I live. I remember floating and not walking, I didn't know how to get back on the ground and walk.
Now my memories is vague, I know I did something but can't remember. I do remember that I checked if I can read things and I could read letters and numbers fine up close and in a bit of a distant.
Next thing I remember is looking for a girl. I come to a house and procede to float through a wall and see a boy who is the girls brother and he seems to be expecting me. He tells me to wait and hide till the basketball player who is the girls boyfriend leaves. I float into a wall and look through it and wait till the guy leaves. I then procede to float upwards through the ceiling into her closet and coming out of it. I try not to come out of a wall since it might scare her and she is getting ready for bed. Upon seeing me I tell her I am not there to hurt her but she starts screaming. I quickly go through a wall outside the house and onto a small roof since her mum is searching for me. When thinks have calmed down I float through the roof and find the girl downstairs in the house. I again tell her I am not there to hurt her and I am no ghost. I tell her that I live in the Philippines and am alive just OBEing. She understands but makes a somewhat sarcasting ohhh sound as if she doesn't believe me and sits beside me. Her mum walks by and just acknowledges me as if she knows me and I just greet her. I look into a mirror to see myself and see a distorted image of me which would have frightend me too and I tell her this. She relaxes so I take her hand and kiss it upon which she tells me "Free is an odd name, (don't you think)". Everything starts to fade after this and I wake up.

Now she might have been pregnant and refering to her babies name but I am not sure, am also not sure if she said what I put in brackets. I don't properly understand the meaning of the message right now but I am trying to find it out. Free might stand for freedome. Any pointers maybe?

How many of you have tried to visualise something in your head? It normally works out well, with a bit of practise. We can easily imagine shapes, forms, images... even moving scenes if we try hard. But now try this:

Look at an object infront of you and now see it moving in real time. Whenever I try to do this it goes wrong, I cannot see it moving. I just get still images of it in other places, but no smooth movement. I can however see how it would move if I pick it up and place it somewhere else....
So here is the thing: What if someone can get a perfect real time visualisation of a moving object, would it acctually move?

Well a couple of days ago I watched the show "Is it real: Alien Abduction" on National Geographic.
First of all I don't think it is, but here is the thing.
The people who say they were abducted tell the following:
They wake up in the middle of the night unable to move. The air feels "crisp". They see figures at their bed and then they begin to float towards the spaceship. Often through walls or closed windows.
If this is not an OBE I don't know what is......

Could it be that this whole alien abduction phenomena is just OBEs where the mind creates things (the aliens etc.) which are not acctually there?

First of all, any disbelievers please look at the other topics about Auras until you are convinced that they exist. This topic is not about if they are real or not, its beyond that and I want to explore some things with other people who can see them.

Ok here is the deal
Can you clearly see the aura of your fingertips connecting if you bring them close to each other? If yes do the following:
Bring your two index fingers close to each other till you see the aura connecting. Shake your hands or do whatever till the connection is gone. Now bring your two thumbs together till it connects, shake again till its gone. (This just shows how auras normally connect between the fingers)
Now bring your two index fingers and your two thumps together at the same time, hold them about 1cm apart from each other.
Do you notice that the aura does not connect index to index and thump to thump anymore? It crosses index to thump, although this is a longer distance than index to index, and forms an x shape between the 4 fingers.
I am trying to figure out why this happens......
Any pointers?

Well I remember two dreams:

In the first I was in a park. Instead of heaving a dog as a pet I had a lion. It just followed me around and played with me, even caught a bone I think.
I am intrepreting this as a good thing since I could controll a "dangerous" animal.

The second dream has no meaning to me but maybe to you guys.
I was in our world but this world had a second dimension were other people and some weird creatures live. They were hostile towards us for some reason and threatened to kill me I think, I knew that I had to visit this second dimension to stop it. So my friend (who is also my real life friend) tells me that it is possible and that I should think hard how to do it. He also said that children of a certain grade of my school can visit this dimension and the secret in doing it lies in the number 20, since there are 20 children in that class.
So he told me to come with him and we would go visit one of the children and go into the second dimension. In order to do that we had to breath in the water... I had no clue at that point what he really ment but I went with him.
We go into his car and drove into a guarded village I know in real life (I think it was supposed to be the one I know). We came to some highrise buildings which I had visited before in a dream I think. He drove the car into one of the buildings. At this point my dream switches to a third person view:
I see the car driving off the top of the building and falling. Water rises from the ground to meet the car and fine water mist comes up in a few pillars (hard to describe) surrounding the car. The people in the car strick their heads out and breath in the water.... all of a sudden the car falls slower and slower until it stops in middair above the water.
Thats it... no more memory afterwards.

Does this make sense to anyone?

Ok here it goes:
I had a normal dream in this dream I was drunk driving at one point.
Now at some point in the dream I start floating and start to gain lucidity. So I tell myself I want to OBE and start spinning faster and faster. My vision fades and I can only feel the spinning motion.
All of a sudden I am lying in my bed and I can still feel the spinning motion in my body. Then my feet start to lift up till I am in a handstand position. I disconnect my head too and fall onto the floor... I can feel the impact, its so real. My entire room is real and I am a bit imobile on the floor. So I try to get up and am in a lying floating posistion. I think great I am OBE.... approach the wall to go through it, but it gives resistance which feels very real. I think to myself this should not be.... and look back onto my bed. My physical self is not lying there... again I think that this should not be. I force my legs onto the ground and instantly gain a normal gravity sense + a bad concious for drunk driving. I again approach the wall to go through it...... only to just feel it again like if its real.
So I go to my door open it and go outside. Everything is like it should, like if I was awake. My cat sees me, runs up the stairs, gives me the normal greeting by rubbing herself against my legs and then starts to scratch the stair case. I look downstairs and hear my grandma. At this point my subconcious goes crazy:
I am convinced that I woke up. Everything is so real, I can't do things I should be able to do (me floating funily and doing a handstand without using my hands slips my mind and/or feels perfectly normal), I am convinced that I was drunk driving....
So I go back into my room, go to my bed. Do a freaking heandstand again without using my hands, let my legs back down and hold a position that would be impossible to hold with gravity in place. Close my eyes...... and BOOM really wake up.
This all happened 5 minutes ago.... as you can imagine I feel pretty stupid. I confused an OBE with reality and stopped it by choice since I wanted to sleep again. I could have stayed OBE for a long time, maybe I would have gotten my abilities after a few more minutes...... hey atleast I now know what to do to get it from a lucid dream. 

Occasionally I have a dream inside of my dream. I will wake up but still be in a dream.....
I once woke up inside dried tinkle in a train (after having a lucid dream) as if I had passed out there, I could smell it. Don't know what that was about (and no I didn't wet my bed or had to use the bathroom). It only lasted a few seconds, I got up looked around and someone was looking back at me. Then I woke up for real.

Some say its easier to go to the lucid when you wake up from a dream and still are in a dream... I disagree, its so confusing. It seems like reality since you have a memory of a dream. When I woke up in that train I thought I had woken up for real and it was confusing since I tried to remember why I was in the train.

Did anyone else ever have a dream inside a dream?

Alright I will tell this from the beginning of the dream/experience whatever it was.

I was a soldier and a leader of a squad. My commader gave me a new mission and when I gave him the salute black crows started rising from his head. At this point I realized that I was in a dream or something. I moved away from him to a lake that was behind him. Now I remembered speaking to Ambeth about how Jesus walked over water by manipulating energy so I gave it a try (don't know if I thought about the conversation before or while I was walking over the water). It worked and I walked over the lake. Black crows where either diving into the water or coming out of it, can't really remember.
Anyway I started moving in circles and also spinning myself (probably because I was loosing lucidity). Then I went in this motion back to the shore where there was a forest (European forest). While still spinning I saw a place where there were big presentes in a circle (no this has no meaning, I visited a place where they had presents like that before I went to sleep). Since I was spinning I always got a view of the lake and then of the presents while moving deeper into the forest towards them. I remember thinking that this could turn into a nightmare since I am moving deeper into a forest. Almost instantly the lightning darkened around me, but then I reached the presents. I jumped up (maybe I stepped on one to support the jump) and than I was just ingulved in a white bright light. It was everywhere, no more forest, no more lake just the light. I was so shocked that I opened my eyes.
I woke up in a paralysis (if I woke up at all)... I could not move my head but I could move my arms. Since my head was lying sideways I tried to look up and saw a figure or something hovering over me. Small shock and I tried to tell it that it has no power over me, my voice was very different. It seemed to vanish a little but quickly regained its form.
Then I was just in my bed...... I still don't know if I really was awake in the last part of my dream experience.

Well last night I had another lucid dream. In this dream someone acctually agreed with me that it was a dream, my father. I then told him that I would try to enter the Astral from my dream but he just sarcastically said go ahead as if it is not possible. I then gave up trying after a few seconds and remained in my lucid dream.

After I started to fly and float just by jumping up. To my suprise another dream character tried to do the same but was unsucessfull and frustraded because of it. Somehow others were not suprised that I could float.

Another thing that only happened in this lucid dream was that I was able to morph (go right through) some walls and doors. I just approached the wall and moved right through, like going through butter. There was also a sensation when going through the wall, like a feeling that you are acctually passing through something.  Strangly other walls were hard and not possible to move through. Also one wall was too big.... I wanted to go through it, made a few steps and was still inside of it (everything was pitch black around me) so I went again backwards till I was outside of the wall.
I remember one thing clearly that I wanted to morph through the door of my grandparents room (it wasn't the same room as in reality). Instead when I applied pressure to the door to morph through it, it sprang open. This woke up my grandparents and the dog which always sleeps with them. At this point I got confused and thought I had woken up since I uncussefully morphed through the door and had woken up my grandparents. I had the believe that my grandparents would not be able to see me since I was in the Astral and looking at their physical selfs while sleeping (of course that was a wrong believe).


Anyways those were all firsts for me in a lucid dream, exspecially that my father in the dream agreed that it was a dream or atleast didn't reject the idea (can't really remember).

Well a couple of nights ago I was dreaming and was walking with some guy down a sidewalk beside a road.
I just tell him: "This is all a dream" and he tells me that it isn't. (This is the second time where a character inside a dream will deny to me that it is a dream). So I respond: "Well watch me fly then" or something similar and lift off.
So first I start going upwards and straight forward... what fun. I go down the road and more buildings appear out of the grey mist which somehow is everywhere. I start flying by a hotel and so I want to turn to fly towards it and inside, but I can't. My body turns but I still fly in the same direction....... so frustrating. Adding to that I am still drifting higher until I reach a point where I start to kick with my legs and it feels like they are hitting a water surface. At this point I am not going higher anymore.
So I start to realise that I suck at flying... I can't controll it. So I want to teach myself in my dream since I am fully lucid. First I try what happens when I turn onto my back...... I get a fast dropping downwards sensation and the grey mist becomes heavier, so I turn myself again and I stop falling and just float and get my vision of the buildings back.
Then I try to twist my body to go into a different direction. It doesn't work out too well and I still can't properly controll where I am flying to. So I turn onto my back again and get the falling sensation..... all of a sudden there is only that grey mist and I start waking up.

Why on earth is flying so freaking difficult for me when I am lucid. I can't land anymore and I can't go into the directions I want, except the starting direction I choose. I also can't properly accelarate or slow down. Atleast I can kinda fall back down to earth haha

Well l just thought this up and wanted to share it.

Some time ago I wanted to Astral Project. I felt like a "vortex" or something opening at the top of my head. I felt something touching my head and then as if I as beeing sucked out of the top of my head. Then this thought hit me:
"What if something is trying to implant a false bad memory right now into my brain?"
I immidiatly stopped what was happening by braking concentration etc.. I know that this thought is so stupid and makes no sense etc. but its there. I have thought it and now its there every damn time I try something and I get scared. So I analysed this for a while and came to the following conclusion:

Thoughts are very much like doing phsysical things. They cannot be "un-thought" and will always remain with you, no matter how stupid they are. You will always remember certain thoughts, like you remember certain physical actions.
Now this poses a problem for me. How the heck can I forget about this thought..... its like the only real deamon I have right now. Its like beeing scared of hights, you know you can't fall but your still damn scared. I know that nothing can change my memorys, but I am still damn scared.

Any advise to how I can get rid of this nonsense? I was never scared before until I thought about this memory chaning stuff which is so bloody absurd......

Well it was pretty short:

(This first part is just stuck in my mind like this, I am not sure if it really happend)
A female was sitting at an old wooden desk with a long dress writing into a book. For some reason I remember scribbling over the pages so that she could not write in it anymore or read what she wrote.
(Now this part I can remember very vividly)
The female transforms herself into a black mass (think of that bug demon at constantine out of a black mass... same shape shifting functions). She flys to me rapidly pinning me onto my stomach ontop of my bed. I can feel my whole back tingling because she is on it. I look to my left and see her pinning my arm onto the bad with her black hand. Then she says to me angrily "I will get you!" or "I will get you for this!" (can't remember which of the two). She does not let me go so I start telling myself that I am stronger since I feel panick coming up and start trying to force her to leave with my thoughts. It works and she lets me go... then I wake up and if I remember correctly I was in the same position in my bed as she pinned me down.

Now I don't really believe in Negs etc. but what on earth was that. All dreams after this were nightmares with deformed humans etc.

Well I watched this national geographic thing where they explained how the dinosaurs got wiped out by a giant asteroid impact.

Somehow I think this will happen in 2012, another giant asteroid. So I gave it into google and this came up:

http://www.satansrapture.com/nostra2012.htm

Has anyone ever experienced it?
I can recall a dream where I had memories of the places I visited, not from real life but this feeling that I was there before and knew what I have to do since I already had been through the dream once. I rememberd what I did wrong the last time I was faced with the same situation. It was a nightmare btw. and I wasn't lucid.

BUSH SIGNS THE MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT: CCR CALLS IT A BLOW TO DEMOCRACY AND THE CONSTITUTION
New Law Suspends Right of Habeas Corpus for Non-Citizens, Empowers President to Authorize Torture and Gives Him Wide Power to Indefinitely Imprison Anyone, Including Americans, He Labels an

Center for Constitutional Rights Derides Unprecedented Expansion of Presidential Power and Vows to Challenge the Law in U.S. Supreme Court

October 17, 2006, New York, NY - Today, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) denounced President Bush's signing into law of the Military Commissions Act (MCA). The final version of the bill emerged only four days before the Senate's 11th hour vote. Although President Bush declared that "time was of the essence" when he called for the legislation, he has waited nearly two weeks to sign it into law. Congress has once again been cowed into doing the President's bidding and abdicated their Constitutional powers in the process, say attorneys.

The new law strips the right of non-citizens to seek review of their detention by a court through the filing of a writ of habeas corpus, the venerated legal instrument that for centuries has protected people from arbitrary detention, disappearance and indefinite detention without charge. The Act is also meant to erase the hundreds of habeas corpus petitions that CCR and others have brought on behalf of many of the 450 men being held at Guantánamo Bay, a move already once denied by the Supreme Court.

Further, the MCA dramatically expands the President's powers in an array of profoundly troubling ways, including permitting him to determine what constitutes torture and who may be labeled an "unlawful enemy combatant" and therefore detained indefinitely. Such scope means that non-citizens, such as those unjustifiably rounded up in sweeps after 9/11 in the U.S., could be held without charge or trial. U.S. citizens deemed to have "materially supported" hostilities against the United States could be held as enemy combatants as well. Once in U.S. custody, the law allows detainees to be subjected to stress positions, temperature extremes, sleep deprivation, and possibly waterboarding. It also defines sexual violence crimes so narrowly that some of the outrages of Abu Ghraib, such as forced nudity, would not be punishable, and defines rape and sexual abuse in a manner that is inconsistent with international law, turning back the clock on the hard-fought victories of survivors of sexual violence. At the same time, the bill provides retroactive immunity for U.S military and intelligence officials for the torture and abuse of detainees, including the widely condemned horrors which occurred at Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo.

Characterizing the new law as "an assault on the Constitution," CCR Executive Director Vincent Warren said, "By trading our liberty for a false sense of security, Congress has effectively granted the President the power of tyrants to undermine the foundations of Democracy." He added, "CCR intends to challenge this outrage at every turn, using every tool at our disposal, until we reverse this affront to the rule of law."

Further, Warren pointed out that under this administration's lawless programs, innocent people like CCR client rendition victim Maher Arar-who was recently cleared of any links to terrorism-can be jailed and tortured with no recourse.

CCR has already filed the first new cases to challenge the stripping of habeas corpus: Mohammed v. Rumsfeld, a habeas petition on behalf of 25 men detained at Bagram Air Force Base; and Khan v. Bush, a habeas petition on behalf of Majid Khan, a Baltimore man held in secret by the CIA for nearly three years until President Bush transferred him to Guantánamo in early September. Both cases are in the D.C. District Court.

The law will likely also be tested in two consolidated cases brought on behalf of Guantánamo detainees currently pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals, Al Odah v. United States of America and Boumediene v. Bush. These cases represent the first 13 habeas petitions filed on behalf of Guantánamo detainees and challenge the legality of the detention of 53 men. The initial appeal was argued on September 8, 2005, and the three-panel court has yet to issue its decision.

According to CCR legal director Bill Goodman, the provision of the MCA that strips the right of habeas corpus is a direct violation of the suspension clause of the U.S. Constitution because it denies non-citizens a meaningful opportunity to challenge the legality of their detention. The clause states that the writ of habeas corpus can only be suspended "in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion." Goodman said recent reports of innocent men being released from Guantánamo underscore the importance of moving quickly to defeat this law:

"From Afghanistan to Spain and Germany to Pakistan, innocent men have been returned home to their families. We know, as does the Bush Administration, that many more of the roughly 450 men still held at Guantánamo are also innocent. To deny them the right to make their case and to win their freedom, is not only immoral and illegal, but undermines the concepts of liberty and democracy that this country was built on."

A more detailed review of the legal issues raised by the stripping provision of the Act and the legal process that may ensue is attached.

Source: http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/newsroom/releases/pReleases.asp?ObjID=P12FuOBvBH&Content=872


From my title it should be obvious what I think of this. Any other thoughts or comments?

Edit: I just realised that this might be in the wrong section. Please move to News and Media if seemed appropiate. Thanks.

Well first off I have the second degree in Reiki, meaning I supposendly will let energy flow into things when I lay my hands on them.

Now when I try to AP I place my hands on my chest and so energy will flow into me. Previously I thought that this will help my tries but I am starting to doubt it because of the following:
Whenever I stop because it didn't work or so I am completly relaxed and I feel if I could go to sleep easily but I can't. Its like I energised myself or something because I won't be able to sleep after I tried to AP.... its very annoying.
The last time I tried the weirdest happened. I was doing the mind awake/body asleep thing with my hands on my chest and it wasn't working so I told myself that I should just go to sleep normally. I could feel myself drifting off when all of a sudden my finger taps me hard on my chest.... I seriously had no control over this and didn't feel my finger till it tapped me. I could literary feel my mind and body powering back up again..... and of course aftewards I couldn't sleep.

So should I maybe stop putting my hands on my chest? I can't decide if the Reiki is acctually preventing me from AP and giving me this restlesness when I don't want it or if its something else.
Any input is appretiated.

Hey has anyone watched the movie Flatliners. Its about medicine students who kill themselfs using an electric shock under supervision and then bring themselfs back to live using CPR etc.

It shows that we go somewhere in the afterlife, however since its Hollywood they are haunted afterwards since they went to a place they should not go to without dying properly.

Any thoughts on this?

This happend 2 weeks ago or so, don't know why I didnt post it earlier.

Alright.... I had kind of a hangover from the night before and was tired from getting to little sleep. So I decided to rest in the afternoon.
As soon as I was lying down in my bed (sideways) I felt extremly tired and soon drifted off to sleep. I might have thought that this sleepy stage was good for an AP but not sure about it anymore.
Anyways all of a sudden I see a wall with flowers (like those tapestry you can buy) on it. I also see my hands infront of me. At this point I am not really lucid yet but I start playing with the wall. The flower pedals come out to me, if I am in space, and I juggle them in my hands. Then a thought hits me: "whoa if I am hallucinating because I am almost asleep this is the most realistic thing I ever saw". At this point I become fully lucid and I wave my hand through the wall. It ripples like water and I know I can now just get up and I should be in the Astral. So I get up...... the position I get up from is the same I had in my bed.
However my room is different. Its dark, although it was in the afternoon. Then furniture etc. is different. I start to float towards my door and I open it... I remember thinking that the door is opening the wrong way (however thinking back it wasn't) and I look for the doorway on the wrong side. I find it after a short while but its to small for me and I have to duck to get through. Once I am through the door everything is different from my real house (I was in another room and not at my staircase) and there were three (I think it was three) puppies on the floor. I am a bit confused and I notice that the door is closing behind me.... I get the thought that this is not a good thing since I am already not in the proper Astral so I might loose my room completly once the door closes. The door does close, I reopen it, and find the room I started in again.   But now my cat is there (white persian). I am thinking... well if this is a real AP I can just drift right through walls and windows.... and so I fly through my closed window and upwards. However, also here I am somewhere else and not in my real neighbourhood. I fly upwards and look down to see that I am in a city and floating upwards beside a small highrise building. The building has urban chimneys and smoke comes out (think of 80s NY... they all had those smoking chimneys, the ones out of metal).
Next thing is that I want to go to a mall I know..... I am kinda there and I see someone running. Memory is fading on this. But the next thing I know is that I am waking up. However, this is not normall how you wake up from a dream where you open your eyes and are back in reality. For me everything just went kinda black and then I realise that I am staring at my closed eyelids.
After waking up from this completly I had problems with distinguishing reality from dreams and felt kinda guilty for some reason for 1 to 2 hours. I just had no more joy in things for that time and felt that I am out of place, like I wasn't supposed to be where I was.

So was that an AP?

Ok this is a recollection what happend to me during 1 morning.

Well last morning I started off with dreaming very realistic dreams. They went to the lucid and I got the knowledge I would wake up in the physical and knew right away that i could close my eyes, "wake up" in my dream and would be lucid. This did in fact happen.

Now here is the strange part. Although I knew it was a dream I could only controll it partially. I could not change objects or make objects in the dream appear easily, acctually almost of the time it did not work wich frustrated me. Also I did one thing while beeing lucid and there was a voice or a thought telling me I should stop doing the activity immidiatly. After that objects I created for the activity changed to things I could not use anymore. It was impossible to change them back.

At one point I requested to enter the Astral plane. Then something weird happened. An image started apearing infront of me, like "picture in picture" mode in some TV's. I concentrated on that image and let it fill my entire vision because I thought that now I would enter the Astral. How wrong I was....... everything was totally wrong in that image that came, I can't remember exactly what it was by I have this feeling that  it showed a doll... some kind of living doll... as if the world was made out of string. (this is just what I have in my mind when I try to remember).

So all in all it was a pretty good experience, exspecially the knowledge in the waking state that i could resume sleep and would wake up in a lucid dream after a short while. I lost this knowledge now........ there is again doubt, I really wonder what made me so sure last morning.

Ok close before going asleep your thoughts etc. start drifting off, you enter the dream stage. Now here are two things I remember and I can't make sense of it.
Images were going through my mind (I can't recall) and something was speaking to me. Then an image of a animal paw hitting my chest came to my mind and a question: "But why are your legs crossed?". I awoke after only to see that my feet were crossed over each other. So I thought ok, this was weird... and went back to sleep.
I get random thoughts again etc. and all of a sudden: "But your hear to have fun, like this." (or something similar to that) and I wake up because my bed was shaking briefly. I felt a pressure point on my bed, like something was on it, but that point was not directly coming from my body... as if I was not the heaviest thing on my bed. I went to sleep again after this.

Maybe I was just hallucinating....

Well above is a picture of these hills (parts of them atleast). There are approximatly 1268 hills in that shape ranging from 40 to 120 meters in height.
Now of course there are explanations how these formed.... tidal movements centuries ago.. or limestone something (if u wanna know search for it), but somehow I don't really believe in it. Its just so weird... I have been there myself twice since I live in the country and I can't figure out how something like that was formed or for what it was used.

What are your theories?

For some time now I started to notice that when I am in a room a light will start to dim for a split-second and then go back to its full glow. This happens randomly and I cannot controll it but it happens in different houses and different rooms so I am kinda starting to think that it has nothing to do with the power fluxations although I live in a third world country (however I live as higher class there so the power should be fine). Someone else once noticed this too while I was talking to her about it.

Does anyone else experience similar things?

EDIT:
After writing this I started to remember things from my childhood. I remember walking along a street with a light turned off and when I walk under it it turned on (I can't remember if it turned on or was on already and turned off properly). I think this happend more then once and I remember thinking of it as a game where I turn the lights on or off.........
It is always random however, I don't controll it... not even then I think.

Well this is bordering to a lucid dream:

Two days ago I went to a night club and was fed up with myself for not achieving what I wanted with the ladies on that night. So I just went to bed from beeing exhausted at like 4:30am or so and then I started dreaming.

I had this thought or something that maybe everything will be better (looks like that nightclub thing affected my subconcious too) if I'd go back in time to when I was still beeing teased in school and change my life from there on. So all of a sudden I am in 5,6 or 7th grade (no real clue just that it was a lower grade, but definatly above the 4th grade) and I am walking into my school. Needless to say I was excited that I was back in time... so to say a new start. And then the thoughts hit me that I need to accept this as reality or else I will wake up immidiatly.... so I was activly pushing out all thoughts that I was in a dream so that I could accept it as reality. It worked and I made it through the school hall into my class. The thing is that all my ideas in the dream came from my mind and not from the mind of a kid in 6th grade.... so I ended up asking my friends if they want to go to a club. Of course they said no, they were all kids afterall... and then I realized that going back in time sucked and I woke up soon after.

My question is if anyone else ever dreamt themself somewhere, through time or so, to a place with people who really exist or existed and then realize that they can only exist there if they force themselfs to accept it as reality and push away lucid dream thoughts quickly.

I read the thread where people described how they got shot etc. in dreams and then died but this is a bit different from it so I decided to make a new thread.

Did anyone ever commit suicide in a dream? I did it once because I was in a wheelchair and had bad vision in my dream so I rolled myself down an elevator shaft or something and woke up after impact. Did anyone ever do something similar?

The other thing I did multiple times in my nightmares (the ones were stuff chases you like werewolfs, vampires, [enter creature of choice here]) is give up running at a point, just wait and let myself get bitten so it all ends. I normally wake up after this.

I think these experiences come close to lucid dreams because well how else would I know that the nightmare etc. will end if I let myself get caught by the thing chasing me and die/ get converted from it? The problem is why don't I know that I could just command the creature to go away and it should listen if I am in a fully lucid state...... experiences like this and a different one I had make me wonder if there is a dream state where your partially lucid (you know that some parts of the dream are a dream but think that other parts are reality).

Well I live in Asia but am not Asian.

Now here is a difference I noticed between European countries and Asian in relation to supernatural things etc.
When I am in  Europe hardly anyone believes in ghosts, metaphysics or any things like that and teens doing this stuff become outsiders. Because of this disbelieve people sleep in total darkness without beeing scared and people who are scared are made fun off etc.

Here in Asia its quiet different. Some of my asian friends tell me they have seen ghosts, others experience astral travel and lucid dreams. But somehow my friends here are really scared off ghosts, they won't even go near places. And its not the fear of the unknown.... its a fear of something everyone knows is there. When I ask them why and that they should go with me they just say that I should respect the spirits there (which some have seen) and not disturb them. Also all reports here of ghosts are negative. Just a while ago I heard a story of someone who saw people crawling up the wall onto the ceiling in a bathroom.

Why is there such a difference between Europe (probably USA too) in comparison to Asia? I somehow believe that alot more people here have open third eyes/ chakras, etc. then in other parts of the world.

Well let me tell you the dream in whole (its not very long since I woke up because of a stupid construction site beside myhouse):

I remember names were read of a list and I started laughing at one of those names because I knew it. In real life I do not know the person. Then different names were read of the list and I get the feeling that they are from an old real life school class I once was in (not sure about this). Then all of a sudden I arrive at a place with my friends (these I know in real life). It becomes clear that there will be a sports tournament and the names are the people participating. I start thinking in my dream, when I think of the word "dreams" the dream becomes lucid. And now here comes the catch.
I take one of my friends who I know in real life and tell this to him. I tell him: "Everything is just a dream". He looks at me in disbelieve and says: "No its not" (or something like that).
I knew that everything was a dream but still I thought my friend was real and thats why I wanted him to know, so he could become aware with me. I will talk to him today if I can and ask him if he had any dreams last night.
I can't really explain why I tried to talk to my friend in the dream, is there someting like a partial lucid dream where you become aware that some things are a dream but you think others are real?

Well most of the time when I try to OB I start seeing colors. Always the color blue with minor brief exeptions. Well I tried a while ago and I can still feel my body (so I obviously didn't leave it yet) but this time the color turned into a face for a second. Then I start seeing like a blue tunnel (or somethinh like that) made out of faces (this was not very clear and the things I saw were only 2D, like masks)..... I don't know how to explain this properly and maybe it was just my mind playing tricks on me or it wasn't even faces, maybe I only wanted them to be and so it formed...... I never ever left my body during this, however my eyelids started twiching like mad trying to open themselfs without me doing it purposly. I tried to force them closed but I had to give in and open them. Acctually the eyelid thing is happening alot and its annoying me, any tips on that cause I am starting to think that something subconciously or so is activly trying to prevent me from leaving.

I never see people writing about colors during OB, except that one guy who says he sees half the road beeing blue.

Does anyone else see colors or have similar experiences? Cause well the colors are totally clear for me, but with the face/mask part... I don't even want to believe myself here  ...

Guess I will just keep on trying...

Well I started trying to OBE and I keep logs of things that happen. I never acctually made a sucecessfull OBE and so I want to post my log so that you guys can maybe tell me how far I already got or what I should try to do. (Note the log is written in a note form so just bare with it
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AP trial July 9 (night time):
I started out with the mind awake, body asleep method. (may hands where lying on my body normal position) Nothing happened. All of a sudden I become aware that I stopped with the method (memory is vague). I started seeing a blue pulsating light at some point. I told myself to resume the method and so I did. I tried to phase out of my body by imagining myself standing up and walking out of the house and then along our street. Imagination was fine while being in my room, I open the door and walk out. When I tried to go down the staircase I found myself stuck, I could not imagine this properly. At some point I was then standing infront of my house door. While I am opening it the thought if I am barefoot or with shoes hits me, I choose to go outside barefoot. I start walking over my front lawn going right from the house, then changing my mind and turning left. It should be noted that I imagined it being daytime, although it was night outside. After some time I think that its not working (well it wasn't since this was my imagination) and so I imagine balloons around my hands and start flying upwards. Memory stops again here, not sure what happened. At some point I become aware again of my surroundings and see the blue light but stronger (I actually can't put any of this in a chronological order since I lost my time sense). There was a V-shape in my vision, the blue light pulsated in this V-shape and then there was a border. In my peripheral vision other lights started to appear (also blue) at some point but just briefly and they went away again. I also tried the rope method at some points but nothing really happened. At points I started having imaginary dreams, my mind so to say drifted off with imaginations of places or events (which I can't remember) before I could catch myself and return into the "trance state". During this AP trial I started feeling vibrations, during the end my arms, hands, legs sometimes, body, head (crown chakra) started feeling different. At a point I felt my fingers at a wrong place, at one point I had the brief imagination that my arms where somewhere else. At a point something touched the right side of my head (It might have been the curtain) which made it tingle. My eye opend briefly sometimes when I became "aware" again.
I stopped the AP trial consciously after something screamed in myself that I have to leave my body right now... literally screamed. I should not have to scream.
I lost sense of time during the AP trial and so I do not know how long it was. I just know it stopped around 9:30pm but I am not sure when I started anymore. It was some time after 8pm probably close to 8:30pm.


Some time after I wrote this I started to remember some of my "imaginary dreams" I mentioned ealier. In one I was in a motel room and there was a man with me with whom I talked. In another one there was my brother. Thats all I remember.