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I'm planning on joining a gym as soon as i start a new job. Its one of those typical corperate chain gyms with the happy-go-lucky trainers and high tech equipment lol. It also provides some free classes, one of which is Yoga. I'm not quite sure what type of Yoga it is, i havnt looked into it properly yet.

I'm just wondering if theres anything i should expect?... im afraid it'll be one of those fad polluted things so that its changed to suit the type of people who arnt in it for spiritual growth.. if thats even possible?

I've only got 1 binaural mp3 that just sends me to sleep during mediation lol. I cant be affording hemi-sync so if any1 has somthing that works for them can you please post it here for the rest of us? or maybe provide linke to a place to get resources like that?


thanks!

does anyone have any experience in traveling backward/forward through time while projecting?. I've read many accounts of traveling to other dimensions and parts of the world/universe.. but little on actual time travel.

i say this because i'd love to see what people have to say about unknowns on ancient civilisations like the maya, aztecs and even atlantians

I was quite bored on the train yesterday, going home from work. So i decided to do some energy raising... unintentionally i slipped into a trance and was floating around inside myself, i didnt have enough time to try an exit.


its an odd question i know, i'm just wandering what people have experienced with this.

i'm not the most outgoing person .. infact i'm quite the introvert. But i'd like to talk about this stuff to maybe friends or collegues as i feel i have things to contribute enlighten others with. But im unsure as to how to raise the topic without being judged too soon. I've already encountered problems when just bringing up feng shui... it was somthing i didnt want to discuss but i was probed, so i mentioned it and just received wierd looks and sarcastic comments.

I know it depends on how open the person you talk to is.. but thats always hard to judge with people on certain subjects.

Do any of you talk to friends/family/collegues about this stuff or have tried?

a number of months on and i'm hitting some problems (i'm not in the most regular of practice with obes.. but i do energy raising and meditation from time to time). First of all, is i'm falling asleep before hitting sleep paralysis (when i try) almost all the time now.. my mind seems more suseptible to wandering off, so if anyone has any tips on solving that it'd be very much appreciated. Secondly, if i actually manage to get to an OBE ready state (hppens accidentaly nowadays yet still rarely) the last few have ended real short.. i'd get up out of my body and then a few seconds later i'd blank out... after what feels like sleeping for a few more hours, i wake up. This is an increasing problem as my first OBEs lasted a decent run yet all left me confused, as they started very clear and lucid but drifted into dream like states.. where i'd feel aware yet not completely in control and making my own decisions with dream like (unrealistic) events.

Also does anyone thing this could be related to my dreams being and feeling more real/harder to descern from reality (its like my brain is taking appropriate countermeasures to my obe attempts lol)

i've always wondered whether girls or guys are more inclined to dive into a of spiritual quest. Alot of the people on the forums seem to be guys .. its hard to tell when you all have wierd usernames! lol. Is there a way a moderator can find out the results of this in the member list?

i woke up at about 6am this morning (again) with the usual wanting to go back to sleep but mind to active, this is getting more common now... which is good because it makes getting into the "trance state" (hate using that term) easier. Anyway, my body falls asleep quite swiftly and much easier... its better now than the first time when paralysis would kick it real fast which was rather uncomfortable. So i'm laying there and telling myself "right.. i know everywhere says i should meditate more n stuff before trying an OBE... screw them, im ready" lol. It was strange because it felt like i was on the edge of the bed about to fall off yet i could still feel myself in the same sleeping position. So i just went for it.. if i fell off the bed, then oh well atleast i tried lol. But i didn't and i just glided to a standing position.

Now when people say it feels real, they arn't freaking kidding. It was VERY clear and much like being awake at the time (tho upon remembering it, its hazy and dream-like) I walked around the room for a bit and looked at my bed to see my girlfriend asleep and, well i couldnt "see" me, it looked like i was kinda under the duvet.. i think this is where i slipped into a dream state or well known "Alice effect" because things got strange from then on. I decided to jump through the wall to check out our neighbours, i've always been curious what thier house is like lol, coz they've done alot of structural changes to it. First attempt i made i just stepped into blackness, so i stood there for a moment coz i was a bit confused at this and then tried again. I get into thier room and they are both asleep (with the light on for some reason).. nice bedroom, was all like.. oak wooden furniture (no clue if its really like that). I went downstairs and saw one of thier cats (tho not one i've seen before) who could see me, so i poke my finger out at her and she sniffed my finger lol. This is by now obviously a dream as i didnt have the vividness from when i started... tho somehow it didnt click with me when i went out the window and the cat followed.. stopping half way lmao (yes she was half through the glass.. so this was either a cats spirit or my dream being wierd!). I then flew up over the houses and through some clouds. The rest is pretty typical dreamness with alot of wierd excrement happening.. like went to a pub i'd never seen before, bumped into someone from work who was litteraly floating around and we started chatting, it was night when it shoulda been early morning, the moon was doing wierd cycles and eventually turned black after i watched it for a while... n thats it coz then my alarm went off.

Wierd and not what i expected hehe.. next time i'm deffinately goin to try and keep my focus more.

ok this is a quick question (because being a skeptic on psychic abilities im unsure what it is). This whole "seeing behind your eyelids" thing. I'm confused because sometimes i get a sort of imprint on my eyes, kind of like after lookign at a bright light then closing ur eyes. Cept when i look around, the imprint changes with the perspective of the room... i often get it when i'm laying down in the dark at bed time. Its like the room is darker when my eyes are open. It doesnt happen all the time so i've never commited it to any psychic ability... but is it just some kind of imagery my mind is creating for me to phhysical see in the darkness or some lasting imprint of the room before i sleep?

the reason i ask is coz i had it happen again last night and decided to enquire this time . Its very similar effect to a time when i was (or thought i was) near an OBE and could see a dark green version of the room through my eyeslids (againt, still unsure if that was just my mind playing tricks).. cept not as clear.

[Sorry for the long post, but if someone could read through it and offer some advice or.. i dunno, somthing.. i just i need a friendly shoulder right now. It'd be very much appreciated]

Sorry for the long post, but if someone could read through it and offer some advice or.. i dunno, somthing.. i just i need a friendly shoulder right now. It'd be very much appreciated 

Some of you may have noticed me surface on the forum a few days ago lookin for answers. As it all started on Wednesday with simple sleep paralysis (i wont recount it all as i've already posted about it here), researching this attempted a trance state the following day and successfully reached the vibrations stage before being interuppted. The morning after i was drunk and hungover so... nothing lol. Then i almost got out and managed get to a point where i could feel my heart chakra purring away for a bit that night... before being interuppted again!! lol. But the most intruiging is what i am about to write.

After being recommended to read up on Robert Bruces material (thank you lucid_learner!) i've done so intently the last few days and learned a hell of alot, especially concerning the NEW techniques which are just astounding. I was introduced to Negs.... now this bit kind of confused me at first, especially when being initially told the spirits/energys of the astral could not harm us and there were no such things as demons etc. The only reason i actually continued to read is because it eerily described similar things that have been happening to me. I wont go through the whole story but some months ago (i actually wrote about this in my journal) i had been noticing desires and thoughts which seemed very irrational for me, i'm a very very logical person.. a reason why i'm not at all religious, yet i'd get bouts of ilogical, self destructive 'wants'. Now yes, i'm human we all get excrement like that.. but i also have this grissly growth on me that started around about the same time as the 'wants'... which was when i moved into an old house that im currently renting. Maybe its coincidence and made it up all in my mind, i certainly hope note, i'm too young to go insane!!.. because... i may have faced this demon last night.

Now, i'm not one to have nightmares often.. i very rarely actually remember my dreams (a problem im working on), even less likely is for me to dream about somthing that i've been thinking about just hours before i sleep. If i had to class last night, i would call it a nightterror, somthing i've never experienced. As i write this i feel like laughing at its stupidity, had it not felt so strong.

I felt sharp pricking pains on my shoulder and elbow most of the night, i used NEW to clear them when i got them but it rarely worked so i attributed it to something real world (still not sure what it was but it was very painfull and itchy, yet scratching it did nothing). After getting relaxed but not quite into a trance state, i constructed my astral sword intricutly (beautifull and fearsome i must say, this is where playing rpgs paid off!), and stood prepared for any negative images that surfaced. Ofcourse as you'd expect.. nothing happend. Being new to this whole visualisation scene in general.. i'm still somewhat confused on how Bruce could literally tear negative images from his mind and turn them over to reveal new images. This.. is obviously somewhat too advanced for me. Regardless i persevered until i fell asleep.. or astralled.. i'm not sure at the moment its all hazey like a dream, yet i was aware of what was happening from my own perspective.

I remember hitting my trance state but im not sure if i slipped into a dream or not. I was lying in my bed yet mentally sitting in my mind with my sword, in the darkness and slashing and burning (my sword can flame up at will) any negative image that surfaced.. there werent many so it was a long process, i tried turning them over but on the rear side was just garbled colours, so cant be sure if it was just my imagination playing tricks. The next thing i remember are some disturbing faces and sounds, but more strongly i could feel the reaction my body was having... it was hyperventilation, i could feel my skin stand on edge and my breath irratic and gasping in terror as i slashed and burned pretty much any mental thought at that point lol (somewhat of a frenzy). It seemed to last a long time, some of the images were just harrowing haloween type stuff and others were deformed faces, one of which i have a clear mental image of (an asian woman with her left eye that is red and half way down her face) . From what seemed nowhere, i felt very warm and soft hands grasping me from behind and holding onto me.. they were very comforting. Initially i had thought it'd been my girlfriend hugging my physical self, but in retrospect, as i was still aware that i was lying in bed, horizontal.... the position of the hug would have been physically impossible. The warm hands around my chest calmed me down somehwat and brought me a step back from the action to more of an observing state. I remember nothing after that except waking up early morning a little dazed, confused and exhausted.

Im not expecting anyone to read all of this.. its a hell of alot of explaining for such little events. I'm a little emotionless today.. somewhat numb.. somewhat thinking i've lost my mind at the speed in which things have developed. The one thing that annoys me most is this may not have happend had i not read RB's Psychic Defense, as he says that giving negs attention allows them to give you attention.. but how can one formulate strategies against them if you dont acknowledge they are there? its all so confusing and frsutrating.... 

I've read through a number of posts and often find a line or two that makes me chuckle. Anybody have an experience that almost left you laughing when you woke up?

I'm pretty new to oobes after get the prelude to one not long ago. So I was wondering if i should bother purchasing hemi-sync cds (and if so, whats a good starting point) to help me along. I have quite the drive for knowledge so any help you can offer in aiding me to learn more about teh whole thing will be greatly appreciated!

Hi guys, i'm new the whole astral projection scene, it not somthing i have pursued but always been curious about. I have an interest in spirituality and fung shui but nothing as advanced as you guys (from reading your stories). I'm seeking advice on where to go from here and maybe some explanations. First off i'll describe the morning of September 27th. (Extracts taken from my journal)

Ok from the beginning, i woke up at what must have been 5-6am (it was getting light so its just a guess) for no particular reason. Somewhat ticked off because my mind was too active to let me go back to sleep again and i had to goto work soon!. Dont ya just fkin hate that?!. Anyway, i was just lying there pondering stuff in general and i got this very uncomfortable sinking, paralysing feeling. Now at that time i was like "woah, that is NOT freaking nice", forced myself to be fully awake and just assumed i was just conciously aware of falling asleep. So i decided to just carry on and not stop it next time. I dont know how long it took to happen again, if i had to guess i'd say about 20minutes. But that time i sank even further and it felt like... it felt like sinking into a pool of room temprature water where I couldnt feel the atmosphere. On top of that i couldnt move, then i sort of had this wierd blurred green double vision thing goin on... which was very confusing because my eyes were closed!. I got really spooked when i couldnt feel my heart beat or breath anymore, that was the worst part. I instantely regained conciousness but couldnt move for a good 30 seconds, tho i could feel my heart pounding away which was much better.

After that, i did get a bit curious and managed to induce that sinking feeling, but didnt let it get very far after it firmly reminded me how it felt. This isn't the first time somthing like this has happend. A couple of times in the past i've woken up to a jolt yet being paralyzed for quite a few minutes. I've heard sleep paralysis is quite common but the other things made me google keywords and it almost always came up with out of body experiences.


Next up was this morning (28th)

It happend again. It was slightly different from the night before, possibley because i was much more prepared and less fearfull of it. I spent all day reading up on OoBEs and the various techniques you can do. Again i must have awoken at 5-6am, fully alert still yet wanting some more sleep. It took a while to get relaxed again because my cat decided she wanted some attention and Alex (my girlfriend) was snoring lol. But after an hour or so of just laying there it got quiet and i decided i'd go for it. I got into a relaxed position and began some fo the breathing and visualisation techniques i read about, after about 20mins i felt those vibrations i hear so much about for the first time!!.. very peculiar feeling i must say!, i had thought i'd be like 'pins and needles' you sometimes get in your foot but it wasnt anythin as tingly/sensitive as that... i dunno how to explain them lol. So i get past these vibrations which lasted about 10 seconds and then paralysis set in, which wasnt as bad as the night before... there was no deep sinking feeling this time and i didnt feel so.. trapped, you know?. Instead i felt extremely light and refreshed with the most amazing silence. I've sat on a mountain on a summers night (i live in Wales, lots of mountains here lol) and i've never felt such peace as i did last night, it was quite extraordinary. Unfortunately i never actually got any further because i had this urge to swallow for some reason lol. I tried to resist but i coulnt and when i did i concentrated a little too much on how it felt, then my mind must have realised and kicked in.. waking me up slowly in the process.

Any body have any steps i can take to delve further into this? its somthing i'm really intruiged about especially reading all this about levels of focus and astral planes.