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#1
   I'm one that would naturally have occasional dream recall. I can remember dreams I had as a kid and dreams from quite awhile back, although its quite fragmentary. Mainly impressions/feelings/scenes. I've tried off and on over the last number of months to get nightly dream recall by setting intention and it usually had results if I stuck with it. At the end of November I finally decided to start a dream journal. When I wake up, I use my phone to record what I remember and write it down later. I've been using affirmations before I go to sleep. "My dreams are vivid and clear" "I remember my dreams clearly" etc.

   It started out pretty good, I thought. For the first while I was getting 1-3 dreams a night. Then I settled into a pattern of sporadic and very fragmented recall during the week with better recall (usually only the last dream before I woke up) on the weekends when I slept in. I started getting up a half hour later during the week as it seemed this period was when I was getting the best recall. I even had a dream where I went out of body, complete with tearing sensations, blurring of vision, etc. Occasionally I'd get some recall when I'd wake up at night to go to the bathroom. These were much harder to retain though.

   On Dec 31, I decided to get a little sterner with myself. If most people have 5-7 dreams a night, why am I just getting the last one(s)? I changed my affirmations to "all my dreams" and that night I woke up at 2am, 3:30am and 6:30am with dreams or partial dreams. The middle one was the clearest.

   Well, its seemed to go downhill since then. I've noticed my recall has changed. Whereas before I'd wake up with a dream in my memory right there, thats not happening very often anymore. Now I wake up and my mind is blank and bits and pieces might come to me later or if something jogs my memory. My later dream recall is not there, even if I sleep in.

  The last good journal entry was on the 10th, when I had a couple pages. Since then it has been quite vague/fragmented or no recall at all.

   I'm trying to understand why this might be. If its a block, how do I figure it out? I don't really feel I'm frustrated and stressed about it. The only thing I can think of is that during/after the night of the 31st when I was up several times for a while recording dreams I kind of thought that it might be kind of tiring to be up for 10-15 minutes 4-5 times a night recording my dreams and then trying to go back to sleep. I've wondered if that "offended" my subconscious.  :-)  But I've tried to correct that. If getting lucid takes that, I'm ready for it.

   Any ideas on what I need to do to keep this going forward?
#2
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Tom Campbell
December 29, 2015, 16:39:57
I've noticed that Tom Campbell is referenced quite a bit here. Maybe I'm venturing into dangerous waters but......

I don't really have so much a quarrel with the "nuts and bolts of how reality works" of his videos, but I find the his overall MBT view very disturbing and depressing. How we check out, meet a hologram representation of our loved ones for 15 minutes, before we are patted on the bottom and forcibly shipped down the reincarnation chute for another go-round at lowering entropy for the great cosmic consciousness like some poor cows at a massive dairy farm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkPBrHwQWI

It also goes against the views of others, such as Frank Kepple and Jurgen Ziewe, who paint (for me anyway) a far more possibly pleasant view of reality, reincarnation and what really happens after physical death.

How do you guys see it?
#3
I'm just continuing my thinking from the end of the feedback loop thread, thought I'd make a new one....

There seems to be as many meditation practices as there are people. Does anyone have any thoughts on the best practice to aid lucid dreaming/AP? Mindfulness, transcendental or other? What is your method? How long? How often? What are the problems to watch out for?

I found this today:  5 signs you went deep into meditation  http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-20097/5-signs-you-went-deep-into-meditation.html

Part of it says:

Quote1. You forgot that you were meditating.
If you were thinking about the fact that you were meditating the entire time that you were meditating, then you weren't really that deep in your meditation. A deep meditation implies a slight to heavy loss of awareness, which includes losing awareness of the fact that you're meditating.

Admittedly, this is where the practice gets tricky. Anyone who's tried to make themselves go to sleep at night by thinking about how they can't sleep usually ended up keeping themselves awake for longer. Instead, sleep experts recommend keeping your mind preoccupied on other things, like picturing sheep, counting backwards, or reading. And this is why, historically, some meditation styles have employed the use of a mantra, yantra or breath awareness, to gently lure the mind away from surface awareness, so you forget about the fact that you're meditating at all.

2. You got lost in thought.
Going deep means your mind is de-exciting from surface awareness to subtle awareness, and ultimately to no awareness. As your mind travels through the various degrees of awareness, you'll be thinking various thoughts, many of which won't have anything to do with meditation. If you resist your thoughts, you may re-excite your mind. As you embrace the thoughts, your mind will continue to de-excite and ultimately you may lose all awareness, which is symptomatic of the deepest states of meditation.


Just wondering about this. I've been meditating for about 2 months. 20 minutes in the morning and I got the Zen12 meditation system which I use late in the afternoon before I head home from work. I find it quite easy to slip into a kind of semi-hypnagogic state where I am still breathing as I want, but I lose awareness and lose focus on breathing and my mind just kind of drifts around. Not quite asleep, still sitting straight - just zoned out in la-la land. Then I snap back for a bit and try and focus but pretty soon I'm out yonder again. There are still thoughts but its pretty random and fuzzy. I've only nodded off one time though. Is this what they are talking about or am I just dozing and feeling good about it??
#4
Hello all!

I don't know if this topic has ever come up, but didn't see anything as I've looked through the forums. Forgive me if it has and point me in the right direction.  :-)

Anyway, I've started a meditation practice, been at it for a month and a half, and enjoying it. Until now, anyway. For some reason, during a session my mouth came through my thoughts and my attention has focused on that and it has become a feedback loop. It comes to mind involuntarily and immediately saliva begins to form and i feel the need to swallow. I feel like Pavlov's dog. My tongue feels heavy and hot and like some big clumsy fish. This sucks my attention away from the breath and it just keeps feeding on itself. My first sessions like this were a nightmare: I was very irritated and stressed. Then I thought I'd make my mouth sensations my focus instead of my breath. It worked insofar as it helped with the monkey mind, but it was difficult to stay relaxed and loose. I have decided I'll just have try to focus on the breath and stay relaxed and if I have to swallow every 10 seconds, I guess thats just how it is until it runs its course. Accept it. I realize that meditation is partly about working through this kind of thing but it doesn't make it any easier. Something like an itch, is just there. It generally goes away. This is like mentally scratching an itch and it gets worse and you can't help it.

I know this is probably pretty hilarious, but I'd appreciate any advice.