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Hi ascendtodivinity,

From what you said i understand what you feel. Because i felt the same way at the beginning.

It is all about expectations... I mean if you expect to be there just as physically being there, you can never have an OBE or LD.

The easiest thing is to have an LD. So here is my suggestion to you:

Do some energy work, after then get into deep trance... When you feel yourself huge or disoriented do this:

Pretend yourself diving into a deep sea with your eyes closed. Swim in the water, keep swimming, feel the water sorround you, feel the swimming sensation, try to hear the water sounds as well... Your eyes will be closed so dont expect to see anything...

When it starts to feel real, you will fall asleep. So make it short... And try to get familiar with the feeling...

Hope it helps,
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You may be trying to hard.

For more information about the how of phasing you will find a wealth of information with the advanced search option.

Greetings,

I suggest that you try phasing rather than OBE. Once you reach the mind awake/body asleep state, you should be able to use some imagery, or even the hypnogogic imagery to phase to the Astral.

With best regards,

Adrian.