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Hey guys. Haven't been into this stuff for a long time, but within the past few months (I want to say three) something is up lol. Often, while going to sleep and not attempting to do anything (except fall asleep lol), I'll have sleep paralysis and I'll be dragged in one direction or another. I was raised up halfway once (like my torso, but not my legs). If you've ever had Salvia Divinorum, it feels just like that. Like someone is pulling you one direction or another. I'll feel Like I'm being pulled backwards on my stomach (and it actually feels really pleasant lol, like my muscles are being stretched and it feels great!). It's continuous. Imagine being tied to a car and being pulled to your stomach (but it's not scary lol), it's like there's a treadmill under me and there's nothing to fall off of. It's a continuous pull, so I hope you guys understand what I mean.  Other times I'll feel like something is pulling me off of the bed on one direction towards the floor, and that's less than pleasant but I'm getting used to it. I used to get some anxiety (not fear) by this, and my heart would race, but now I take it as it comes. I do experience some strange things, like viewing things/setting (night before last I saw a man. A formless man, like I saw him without SEEING him, but I did see him. Makes no sense lol. I got a negative vibe from that ) but I can't interact with them or move around. I should note that I haven't used drugs or alcohol since like, last December.

I used to be into AP for a while and had very minimal success with hours and hours of nightly attempts, and now I've got something going on and I'm not trying at all lol. I'm fully conscious (I could be more lucid, but I'm conscious) and I've seen settings/places but just havn't "phased" into them yet. It seems like when I try to do anything, other than go with the flow, I snap out of it. It's actually interesting. As I lay there I can feel snapping out of it (but still having that drugged out half-asleep feeling) and snapping back into it. Fully paralyzed.

So yeah. What's up with the sudden change? I've been without any sort of "activity" since my last visit here in Feb. of 2007 (but honestly thought it was longer than that, but that's what my last post before this said).  What's up with this recent development? I'd like to take advantage of what's happening if I can. It just seems like every time I try to, I ruin it. I can't help but get an overall negative feel whenever I'm able to "see".

I guess I should mention on one occasion I felt like I was in two places at once. I was laying down looking up at myself, and also looking down on  myself from about a foot or two away. I didn't literally see myself (but I DID literally see myself. Does this make ANY sense at all?) and I felt as if I was fully in both places at once. Pretty weird.

I have a few questions. Can you still move when you are in a trance/ focus 10 (what's the difference?) I think I am in a trance but I can move if I wanted.

Last night I was listening to Boxed Nirvana II and I went into a "trance" where I felt numb and I felt like the room was HUGE and my senses were dulled and it felt like I was in my own little world.It felt like there was the real world and then my little cocoon outside of it. Once I entered into that state my mind immediately quieted and all the the chitter chatter that I usually try to make be quiet went away.

Then a little while after that, I felt like I had gained 500 pounds and felt as if my body was very dense and about twice the size it normally is, as if I was morbidly obese or something. This feeling reminds me of something I used to feel as a child but I can't remember ever experiencing it. It just feels SO familiar. My body got even more numb. I felt very heavy and dense and big. I was still inside my little "cocoon"

This whole time I felt as if I was high on dissociative  like nitrous or DXM. Once I literally saw a maintain range in the upper left of my vision and there was an orange aurora (not aura) poring out from behind it. What's this?

And is hypnagogic imagery also when the blackness swirls and rotates with different colors like white and yellow and such? Or is that something different? Is H. imagery only like REAL pictures?

I think I felt very very weak vibrations, or it may have been a placebo.

I want to get familiar with this "area"/"state" I was in before I go to the next step, but what is the next step?

I tried to focus on AP island, too. I can't quite remember but I might have stopped because that's when my second "trance" started.

I appreciate your help and answers because all of this terminology has vague definitions for me

I downloaded a 20 minute mp3 that says 4.0 htz low theta and I had it on a loop and went to sleep.

When I woke up, I was paralyzed and I was at a stage where I could have started slipping into my head (Phasing, right?) but for some reason got scared and screwed it up I know there's nothing to be afraid of, but I just got a foreboding feeling that tonight's not the night I should do it. Ahh, oh well.

Visualizing AP island helped me get into a trance really early, but for some reason I have difficulty doing anything lying on my back where it's most comfortable. I guess because I sleep on my stomach sprawled out like a lizard lol.

Any tips? I've been working on energy development, too. Seriously It's like I had a block until I either A started posting here again or B started listening to that track lol.

I've been working on that "Am I dreaming?" thing during the day, too, to hopefully wake up and have a lucid dream while i'm dreaming.

I stopped this stuff for awhile I guess out of frustration, but when I'm into it I feel happier, like i'm connected or something lol, I dunno.

I kind of got out of spirituality and I was happier when I did this kind of stuff ^_^ It's fascinating!

I used to AP, and but lately it's like... i'm stuck lol. I get into a trance (I think, I can move if I choose to but it's weird) And I get swirling patterns behind my eyelids... and I try to think and to just go with it but it's like i'm snapped back to lucidity and that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to just.. get lost lol. I don't know how to say it lol.

Sometimes I'm almost asleep and things get swirly and fuzzy and then it's liked i'm sucked into the scene I was seeing and then I can move around and such). Is that "Phasing"?

It feels good to be back! If only I could get over my "block"!

I should also note that my mom said my grandfather was born with a "Veil" whatever that is, and we both see stuff like almost daily out of the corner of our eyes. Like shadows and "animals" and lights and stuff. Lol, I act and feel perfectly fine and always have so I don't think I have a mental problem. I've always seen this stuff ever since I was a kid. I'm not saying I have some gift or anything cuz I don't, it's just interesting I think.

last night was REALLY hard to do anything. i like couldn't relax. i remember my muscles twitching aloit and i cant ever get music out of my head. anyway, i didn't ap, but i remember feeling like i could lift my hands out of my body, and i think they were slipping out, or atleast it felt like it, but i didn't try to move them because it didn't feel like anything was really happening in my brain and i didn't want to move my arms and mess things up. what happened?

Sounds like you go lucid, then promptly lose your lucidity (once you start thinking it's real physical life, you have lost your lucidity).  First off, let me suggest "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" for dealing with WILDs and LDs in general.  Very good book.

For example, they suggest that novice LDs when they get into an LD repeat to themselves (out loud) "This is a dream, This is a dream, This is a dream".  Make sure you stay conscious of what you are saying and don't let it become some automatic thing you are saying, otherwise you could still lose your lucidity but dream you are saying "This is a dream", lol!  This helps plant in your brain that you are in fact dreaming and not at your house.  Eventually, you'll get to the point where you will keep your mind in that state all the time and won't have to worry about accidently losing lucidity.

As for going to the astral planes, I can't help you.  Ever since I've discovered AP, I haven't had any chances to get to teh planes

If it is painful my guess is that you opened your brow chakra before you were ready to do so.  I don't anticipate any major problems and hopefully the headaches will fade with time but I would recommend not only to you but to all others, to try and develop chakras in a more balanced fashion so that these kind of things don't happen.  I have seen so many people come complaining about similar situations and 9 out of 10 times they were only working with the area that is now causing problems.  What is happening is you are throwing your natural balance out of whack and that starts to cause problems.

Respectfully,
Link's Shadow

Oh, sweetie..let me say, this is not healthy for your body.  And from the other post I read it is interferring with your school, falling asleep during a test? not good.

Can I suggest that you go to sleep at a reasonable time, wake up a hour before you normally wake up.  Get up and do something for a few minutes, tinkle break, read the forums real quick..[]  then back to bed with you. THEN focus on your breathing or whatever it is that you do to keep your mind awake.  

In my opinion sleep deprivation doesn't help...could be wrong, but eh, don't think so. [^]  I admit that it gives some results but you never can get far with them.

I hope you try it my way..please? for atleast two weeks..ok?  No more depriving that growing body of yours sleep!! grrrrrrrr..[]

Best wishes,
Nay []

Yes it does. It may help to get to the trance state. It also blocks out surface thoughts wile trying an exit technique.

Please do not take this the wrong way, ok?

I read your post..twice, and I can't really make it out.. Oh, and what is a redneck house???

When I first starting trying for conscious OOB's, I found it very difficult to explain (post) what was going on..it seemed jumbled in a way.  As time as gone on tho, I have found I can explain it better...it's not so confusing when it happens.

So, don't worry as time goes on, it shouldn't be so confusing.

Good-luck to ya!

Nay []

What are Salvia Splendens?

Actually it's said "For God so loved.. that he gave His only begotten son so that..believeth in Him..."
This refers to one's belief in God, in my opinion.
And since God  made us in his image alludes to us being God and God being us, it follows that as long as we realize we are diviine of our own right and axct accordingly and acccording to our best ability all is well.

All religions are man's attempt to put existence into words, which is impossible.
We are divine and of the divine. That bestows us with a certain amount of responsibility in our everyday lives but only the extent of our best conscious ability.

Doubt all organized religions because in the end they are but feeble attempts to describe an experience of one's true existence.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Yes that is a focus level.

The way I astral phase is the way Adrian does it. Check out the Astral Pulse Island link with the picture, it gives you directions on how to do it. It takes practice and good visulizations.

That is truely varible. It depends on your attitude, your patience, and your time you put in. It all depends on YOU, not me, not anyone else on this forum. Practice and practice!

It's hard for me to say what it was since I wasn't there, and I have no idea what you did beforehand....

However, it sounds like it could have been the vibrations that one often feels when they awaken in a sleep paralysis state.  The only reason why I think this is because you say that there was no sound.

The noise, AFAIK, is from the neurons in your brain.
At day you are active; higher pitch. At night, passive; lower pitch.
Might be directly related to Alpha, Beta, Theta etc. brain waves.

I was not around then, but why and how did insects hinder you?
(I don't like 'dem bugs either, so I know wher you're coming from in that sense...)

Being healthy can be a nice benefit, but I am not sure how much it can help APing. It certainly will not hurt. I like my meat. I like juicy steaks and greasy hamburgers. I can AP. So being a vegan is not a must. Though it is best not to have a full stomach and have just eaten a heavy meal before trying to AP. Being unhealthy might be distracting, such as aches, pains, coughing, etc, which can hinder projecting but mostly because it is distracting and not because you are unhealthy.

If you are wanting to be more healthy, I would suggest you do it for the long term physical effects and not just to be able to AP.

oh, in this thread : http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5832 It talks about adrenilen, excitement, i get this too soemtimeswhen i feel something (like i "vibrations" i felt. By the way, why does it take SO long to not be able to feel your body? i've only done that like 3 times ever purposly. its really hard.