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#1
Hi,

Finally after months of trying, I have gotten out and had such a convincing experience that I have no doubt that this was the real deal. Prior to this, I had thought I had gotten out or had some experience where I had separated but did not actually move away from my body so I was reluctant to share those experiences. This one, however was it. This is how it went down.

I decided to use affirmations. I had tried many other techniques such as meditation, phasing, waking up without moving, etc. Affirmations yielded the best result to date. I have an iPod with a program called Speakit. It gives me the ability to copy and paste text into it and listen to it being read. I have used this program to listen to entire books since I don't always have time to sit and read them.

I typed up an affirmation and made it repeat over and over and listened to it while laying down to go to sleep last night. I didn't fall asleep right away so I decided to listen to some chapters from Adrian Cooper's book 'Our Ultimate Reality' where he was describing the Astral Planes, namely the lower planes and the lower Astral Entities. I listened to it and started to doze off. Once it was over, I woke up realizing it had finished playing but I did not bother to start it over again. I had probably slipped into a light sleep of about 5 minues or so.

I layed there for a few minutes and then I was struck with a very strong charge of energy out of nowhere hitting me in my back. It was so strong I felt like I was being tazed, but without the pain. This was different from the vibrations I had felt during meditation, about 100 x stronger. It threw me out of my body. As I exited I heard noises that sounded digitized, like the one in the matrix when Neo gets engulfed by that mirror after touching it. I was then in a black void. I could not see but I could sense my surroundings and I could hear voices all around me. I felt threatened. I felt like I was surrounded by beings. I went into attack mode and started fighting them for some reason. I shot fireballs at them. I could not see what I hit but I could something was hit. It got kinda wild and I tried to control my thoughts but I think due to the fact that I had listened to that portion of the book that spoke of lower Astral beings and such, thats where I ended up I believe. Maybe my mind created it. I have no idea.

After about ten seconds I got pulled back in to my body. I felt the re-intergration of the astral and etheric body take place as it took a couple of seconds and then I could move again. I then rolled over, took the blindfold off my face and looked around. I was like what the hell was that!!?? I thought for a moment, that was it. It all happened so fast that I didn't even have time to think about it or explore my surroundings. It felt like I was thrust into a pit with a bunch of people fighting. I guess that's what they call a spontaneous OBE.

Your thoughts are welcomed.

Jamil
#2
Hi,

I dont usually post questions here because a lot of them have been answered already. However, I felt it would be beneficial to seek guidance from those who have experienced projection to help shorten my learning curve in my specific case.

I have been practicing for a couple of months now, using Mastering AP as my guide along with a few supplemental books on the side. I can say that I have experienced many of the pre-OBE exit signs (rumbling sounds, voices, etc). Over time with practice I have been able to get into a relaxed state and to the point of surge quicker and quicker. My problem though is that the surge is usually as far as I am able to get. I get the full-body surge, remain calm, breathe, and then.... nothing. Still in my body.

I have used the following methods:

Rope
Phantom Wiggling (Moving a body part without tensing a muscle)
Shifting my point of reference
Levitation
Active Immersion into a scene
Flying
Visualizing the license plate on my car, a loved one, a beautiful woman, etc.
I even tried turning into a Werewolf like in the movies to keep awareness shifted from my body
Passively 'Noticing' sounds and images

At the point of surge I either continue doing what I was doing or rolling, willing myself to stand, etc. No luck yet.

I have tried this lying down and sitting. with and without brainwave generators, waking from sleep or before going to bed. All of these methods have proven succesful in getting me to the surge point, but not beyond it. I feel like I am on the cusp of a projection and just need the final push to get me over the hump. I'm sure you've all been here before. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jamil