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Hello everyone! A few months ago, I got a reiki attunement. I had never thought I'd try something like this, but I actually started learning this to help my rabbit (who has a lot of health issues). I'm still very new at trying to do this, but I'd like to offer to send some reiki to anyone who feels they need it or would like some. Just let me know.

Happy New Year to all, may next year be better than the last!

Y'all see this?

https://www.dazeddigital.com/science-tech/article/55157/1/nasa-hires-theologians-to-prepare-humanity-for-alien-contact-priest-space

Hi! I'm trying to attach a photo to my post - at first it told me the photo I took with my phone was too large, so I sized it down even more, and now it says "the attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved"

I'm trying to include a photo of the tarot spread I did (in the Metaphysics section).

Any way I can get that up there to accompany my post?

Hey all,

I just got a new gorgeous tarot deck and I'm itching to dig in and practice reading with it. Anyone want to help me practice by being my guinea pigs?? 

I was really into it and did a lot of practice readings for strangers a couple years ago, then I just....stopped, fell out of the habit of doing my daily card, etc. Now that I've got this new deck I really would love some chances to try to flex those intuitive muscles again! I'd love to do readings for anyone here (or anyone you know who might want one). The more the better.

Any interest??

I know that some people, often people who have never had an OBE report, report such experiences during a surgery. Like, they float up in the operating room, observe what the doctors are saying, etc. Welp, I'm going to have surgery for the first time next week, and I'm wondering if anyone here ever had surgery and had some kind of experience during it.

I'm terrified of the surgery itself -- I sure don't want to wake up on the table (what they call being "light"), because that sure as hell happens sometimes -- but I wouldn't mind projecting from there if possible. I just don't want to be aware of physical sensations of pain in my body, I think that would be unbearable!

Curious if anyone has any personal experience with this!

Came across this fascinating and challenging article in Harper's:

https://harpers.org/archive/2021/04/lost-in-thought-psychological-risks-of-meditation/

The entire time I read it, I was thinking back to having read the book "Spiritual Emergency" last year. The book talks about the line between psychosis and a "spiritual crisis", and how something spiritual could be confused with a mental health emergency. I thought perhaps by the end of the article I'd be able to "figure out" what was "really" going on, but the article ended and I felt well and truly gutted. It seemed truly ambiguous. Not whether or not these effects really happen to people (obviously the research shows we have to accept that it does), but rather how it happens, why, and what does it really mean?

Wondering if anyone has any thoughts.

I came across this citation on Robert Monroe's Wikipedia entry, and was excited to read the actual article - but Google is showing me no hits!! Anyone else have better luck?? No matter how I search for it, I can't find it =(

Bob Ortega, "Research institute shows people a way out of their bodies", The Wall Street Journal, September 20, 1994, pp. A1, A8.

Well I had an exhausting morning.

I was so tired I just wanted to sleep, but I wound up getting stuck for multiple hours in what I can only call a "hallucinatory hell". I was not simply trapped in a series of bad dreams, and I was also not out of body (I'm pretty sure--I even TRIED repeatedly to get fully "out" hoping that would make the madness stop, but I couldn't). It was akin to an in-between state, where I had some degree of consciousness, but no will. That is, I wasn't really able to "do" anything. It was pretty terrible, and I kept forcing myself awake, but I was so tired it was like undertow, I kept being pulled back under. Just couldn't keep my eyes open.

A couple strange things happened. At one point (when I was really just trying to fall asleep and trying not to get trapped in another scary in-between hallucinatory state) I noticed I was hearing what sounded like other voices, people talking. I thought, well, let's try an experiment. I'm pretty visual and never get any "psychic" information in a auditory fashion, but at this particular moment I wasn't having hypnagogic imagery so much as I was hearing a conversation. I decided to try "tuning in", or rather "listening in", to someone here on earth. I started to concentrate and used my intention to see if I could "tap in" in an auditory way. I started hearing a pronounced ringing in my ear, particularly my right ear, and feeling pressure build in my head/ear. Then I felt hot, like I got a hotflash, and a wave of nausea passed over me. It was AWFUL. I became concerned that whatever I did might have done some kind of damage!

Later, struggling again to just get some sleep and make the hallucinatory hell stop (because all that was continuing), I forced myself to open my eyes (I was dealing with a small degree of paralysis). I got my eyes open and...saw something in my room. There was a floating little purple haze, like a gaseous cloud, glistening a bit, hovering in front of my shade. I was like...my eyes are friggin OPEN and I'm still SEEING THINGS?! It was as if some degree of "non-ordinary sensing" was operative at the same time my eyes were open. Opening my eyes didn't snap it off. At this point I was so exhausted I could barely keep my eyes open, so I wasn't able to try to engage with it, communicate, etc., I just mentally sent out LEAVE ME ALONE! EVERYBODY GO AWAY! EVERYBODY LEAVE I NEED TO SLEEP! because I was getting the sense there were other "things" around.


Anyone ever experience anything like this? Especially if you felt had a nausea spell after concentrating very hard trying to make something psychic happen, or still "seeing things" with your eyes open. I dunno, maybe a literal hallucination. It was all pretty upsetting.

OK, so this one has thrown me for a loop, and disturbed me so much I feel like I need to start a separate thread to ask about it.

My last proper AP, my supposed helper suddenly created a lot of physical pain for me. Up until this time, I had felt some discomfort, strain, or soreness in my astral limbs and body, but nothing that bad. But this HURT. And I really, quite literally, felt all of it. It felt like I was being electrocuted and was horrifying. A bit re-traumatizing, actually.

I haven't yet come across anyone here posting about having this sort of experience. If someone has, I've just missed it. So, I'm wondering if this is common, rare, etc? It also makes me wonder to what extent we can trust that the entities we come into contact with are always "good". Would a "good" spirit do that? Also, and this is a whole other topic, but as soon as I was back in my body I thought to myself, This is why people thing they've been abducted by aliens. They're having an out of body experience and, for whatever reason, being restrained and caused pain in such a way that it feels like they're being experimented on.

I want to add: I was not afraid at ALL going into this. I was happy, joyful, and totally trusting. So I don't think we can say that I "manifested" this torturous experience due to my own subconscious fears and expectations of something negative happening to me. Further, if we can surmise that the people who think they're being tortured by aliens are having an out of body experience something similar to what just happened to me, then we can ask again: How do we know that those entities are GOOD? Why would they do that if they're good? The people who think they're being abducted....they don't know what's going on. They have no idea, they don't welcome the experience, they're not gaining anything from it, this is not furthering their spiritual evolution. So why would "good" entities keep traumatizing them like that, over and over?

Anyway, I'm copying what happened here below. Would really appreciate knowing if this has happened to anyone, or if anyone has any insight into it. It was pretty upsetting for me, TBH.

14 July 2020

Out of body experience - astral projection

Phased/spun out this morning. Felt like bed started moving again, but I was floating while still laying down. Moved out through my apartment hallway, out the front door. Woman behind me, felt her hands on my shoulders, and I put my hands over hers. I was happy and excited, I thought we were going to fly over the city! Began to float up a bit. On the right appeared a take out window, like of a fast food restaurant. The woman, still behind me and who I couldn't see, ordered french fries for herself. I wanted to order some, too. I looked to my right, and saw a long line of people had shown up behind us, waiting to place their orders. I remember wondering if they were inherently spirits or if they were dead people, that they must eat here a lot, and how lucky we were that we beat the rush! Eventually I was handed a french fry to taste/try. I took it, and as I put it in my mouth, the woman behind me put something against my right cheek/side of face. The device, which seemed like a thin oval tube approximately 3 inches long, solid dark color, I felt tremendous pain in my body, especially my ankles. It was like I was electrocuted or tased. I got a fleeting sense of the flavor of the french fry, but not too much, as the pain was overwhelming everything else. It really, really, really hurt. Next thing I know, I'm being wheeled into a large, indoor space, like an airplane hanger. I'm still reeling from the shocking pain inflicted on me. There was a man who had a device in his hands. It wasn't the same device, it was large and round. He was going to use it on me, he was pointing it at my feet. Somehow, I felt restrained and held down on the floor. I was kicking and struggling, yelling for the woman to come back and explain to me what was happening, what they were trying to do. As I struggled and kicked on the ground, another, much shorter man came up and was trying to convince me to let the taller man do whatever he was going to do with the device. Again, I was yelling for them to stop, for someone to explain to me what they were going to do, if it was going to hurt. The smaller guy was saying something to the effect of, We know what's best for you! Or something like that. I kept struggling and asking for the woman to come back, for any sort of helper or spirit guide to show up and help me. No one came to my aid. At that point, I WANTED to be back in my body, because the whole experience was so re-traumatizing. So I phased back in.



I haven't really had a proper AP since then. Two days later, on the 16th, I think I had a bizarre lucid dream. It was too weird and disjointed to be a proper AP, tho. It seemed like they (whoever) wanted to do some kind of a procedure or event to "regress" me back to being a baby. Like Benjamin Button style, literally becoming younger and younger, to the moment of birth. My body and mind would become a baby again. Then these people (whoever) would bring me back up to the present. I asked if in this process I would lose any of my memories, and they seemed not able to guarantee that. So I was like "um excuse me." There seemed to be some sort of conversation happening about this issue, then I woke up. But totally unrelated to the painful experience, and I have not had any other experiences since.

So, among all the times I've managed to astral project (which I take to be those times I was taken somewhere by the invisible hands after I stated where I wanted to go, or when I was sent somewhere before I got a chance to say anything), I have twice used the roll-out method to stay in my room. I put a tarot card face-up on a high shelf. I wanted to float up there to see it, so I can have at least one instance of validation for myself.

I'm trying to figure out what's happening and why it's all going wrong. Here are my two experiences below, and here are the possibilities that might be involved:

1) I'm rolling-out into my room, but have not yet developed the capacity to see things accurately
2) I'm rolling-out into my room, but for some reason am being kept from getting this validation for myself
3) I'm not actually ending up in my room but in some other place that I think is my room, and kinda looks like my room, but isn't
4) I'm rolling-out into my room and then somehow transitioning into a lucid dream where it kinda looks like my room, but with false details
5) Something else???

8 July 2020

Tried the roll-out method, as I wanted to stay in my room and look to the tarot card as validation. I reached out and felt for my desk, and the side of my bed, as I rolled and moved down, to keep track of where I was. I got out, and went to go look at the card. I'm not sure if I was really in my room or something else weird happened. There was a guy in my room that tried to alert me to the fact that me, my physical body, was getting up and basically "sleep walking" so to speak. I told him to help me, I couldn't deal with my body right now, I had to use my chance to look at the tarot card! I had trouble hearing the guy talk. It was like his mouth was moving, but I couldn't hear him. Then I commanded myself/body to get back into bed - thankfully it listened to me and laid back down. I went to the shelf to look at the card, which should have been face up. But it was face down. Underneath it was a second card. Both cards didn't have a proper image on the front. Effectively, they both had two "back of card designs" on them. I held the two cards and was upset, I asked the guy in my room why I couldn't see what the image was? He said some weird clue, "The ear is on the wrong side for the head," as if this would help me figure out which card it was. He seemed to talk to me more about who he was, but I either couldn't hear, couldn't understand, or don't remember. Obviously, there is only one tarot card on my shelf, and it's face up, and my physical body never got up and walked around while I was out, so I have no idea what "level" of reality I was operating at, and why I saw the clearly false things I did, when I was theoretically in my room.

I did not look at the card, since I had no real information as to what it might be. I left it on the shelf to try again.

11 July 2020

In and out of weird lucid dreams (I think) all morning, I was laying in bed waiting to transition to my next weird dream experience, when I wondered if I could actually just get out of my body. I tentatively began moving my right energy arm, reaching out slowly to see if I could reach over and grab the edge of my desk. As soon as I felt it, I knew I could get up and disengage fully from the physical body. I immediately floated up to the shelf to look at the card. I STILL saw two cards, even tho it was still the same single card. This time, however, I saw them face-up (slight improvement!). I saw that the two cards were 3 of Wands, and Strength. However, the images were clearly not from my deck (Rider-Waite-Smith). I remember specifically that I looked at the image for the 3 of Wands and marveled at it, trying to remember every detail, thinking, wow, this is a fascinating representation of this card! I said the names of the two cards to myself over and over, so I would remember. I was clearly aware of the fact that there was only supposed to be one card, but even out of my body, I was hoping to myself that at least one of the ones I "saw" was correct!

No surprise but when I got up and checked, it was obviously not either of those cards. Not even close. At least this time I wasn't seeing other bogus things like my physical body wandering about!

Leads to further questions: Have you guys experienced similar problems, where you see obviously false things like this? Is this a problem that resolves over time, as you gain more skills? Have you come to the conclusion that you were kept from seeing things accurately, intentionally, for some reason? Do you have any advice on how to get better seeing RTZ details accurately? What do you think is going on?

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but I'm wondering if many of you find that APing is seriously draining. Since starting to AP regularly a month ago, I've been going through a hypersomnia phase. Last night I "slept" 15 hours! And a lot of that was in and out twilight lucid dreaming that didn't quite feel like deep, restful sleep.

I do have a chronic illness, but normally I'm on the side of waking up too early and not being able to fall back asleep. So this pattern is unusual for me. Does APing affect anyone else like this? And if so, is it a phase that will pass, or is it always like this? Recommendations to "deal" with it?

GrumpyRabbit's Very Grumpy Astral Journey

Hello everyone. I started astral projecting about 3 weeks ago -- save for one quasi-accidental incident when I was in high school and somehow managed to lurch myself out of my body. Prior to this, I've been going on shamanic journeys for about 1.5 years, and am currently in a shamanic healer's practicum. Part of my confusion stems from the fact that I thought that, upon fully leaving my body (AP), and asking to be taken to my spirit guides, I would see the guides I was familiar with and had been working with for 18 months! These experiences are entirely different, and since this method/realm are new to me, I'd very much appreciate your thoughts/insights on how to understand and analyze what's happening. I can keep updating this thread as I continue to have more AP experiences. The below is everything I've done so far:


-Beginning of June, started trying to learn more about AP, started doing affirmations, being intentional about it-


6 June 2020

First out of body experience - astral projection - Full Moon was yesterday, 2:12 pm

This morning as I was trying to fall back asleep for a while (as I was very tired, didn't sleep well last night) I suddenly felt the sensation that either one or both of my legs was "out of my body," pointing up. That is, my energy/astral legs were detached from my body. I felt the buzzing or vibration all around me. My eyes were closed and this was very exciting! I thought/intended as strongly as I could: "Take me to my spirit guides!" And lo, I actually felt the hands gently start to carry me --whoosh!-- away. I wasn't scared. The hands carrying me felt kind. My eyes were closed the whole time. Then, I felt that we stopped moving and I was let go of by the hands. These parts are hazy in my memory. My recollection is that I was brought to a series of guides. Each time, I peppered the guide with questions about what my mission is in this life, what my purpose is, what I should be doing, how to best help/heal others, etc. I seem to think that I wasn't happy with the answers I was getting, either that or I didn't understand them. So I kept asking to be taken to another one of my spirit guides. After two or three times of this, I tried something else. This time I said, "Take me to a master!" I was taken to what seemed like a room with a large screen on the wall. It seemed like a massive electronic display screen, like of a computer. There was a female voice that came out of it, and it identified itself as my soul. I was given a name of my soul, "Amorphis," I saw the word written on the "computer screen - and shown an image of a beautiful woman with incredible, thick wavy pure white hair, and violet eyes. Then, as if through a door to the right of the screen, came the human figure representation of this person/my soul. I asked all of my usual questions. What came next was interesting. She said that we first need to see if I'm "in compliance." (With what?! And, if she was my SOUL, wouldn't she...already know if I was "in compliance"?) I then lay flat on my back, floating in the room. There was some yellow/white light that started at my feet, and literally "scanned" my body from toe to head. I think the results of the scan were positive - yes, I am in compliance. Then it seemed there was some sort of exercise, as if to see how well I'm able to control my astral body. It looked like a ping pong table. At the other end of it was a little brown mouse. In my right hand I was given what looked like a green, fuzzy tennis ball. I could really feel the tennis ball in my hand, and I remember marveling at how I could still actually have tactile feelings. The little mouse threw what looked like a small black ball, and at first I was confused. Like, How am I supposed to play ping pong when I don't have a paddle? How do I hit the ball back with this tennis ball? But then it seemed like I got the idea that I was just supposed to see if I could control my astral arms enough to reach out to touch the black ball served my way with the tennis ball I was holding. I had to will/intend/feel to make this happen. It was a little hard, and when my arm was stretched out really far, it was as if I could really feel a strain or tightness in my astral upper arm, like around my bicep. After a couple times of successfully touching the ball, it was as if the ping pong table started floating up into the air, and tilting downwards, so that my end was higher and the end with the mouse was low, like the Titanic sinking. The little brown mouse was sliding down, and about to fall off! I quickly reached out my left arm, and the mouse clawed onto the back of my hand, holding on. I reached out my right hand to cup him and scoop him up. Again, I marveled at how I could actually feel the little fuzzy mouse. I was filled with an overwhelming sense of care and concern for the little mouse. I spoke to him softly that it was OK, I've got you, you're OK. We floated back down to the ground together. The next thing I recall, and this may be jumbled and have occurred at another point, was that I was very excited to be seeing my soul standing before me. I wanted to touch her, hug her. She didn't seem too keen on that idea. Not like she hated me (if it's my SOUL, seriously), but rather that it didn't seem like the kind of thing we were supposed to do. She tentatively held out her right hand, and just let me "shake" her hand at the tips of her fingers, just for a second. I was able to speak, it felt like I was really using my voice, but my mouth was incredibly dry, and I was having trouble speaking fully. It felt like there was something lodged in my throat. Behind me appeared a water cooler. It almost seemed like I was in a medical office, or a clinic. I had a little trouble coordinating my astral body to approach the water cooler, get a plastic cup, and fill it. I was able to taste cool water on my lips, but I couldn't seem to swallow it and quench my parched, very dry throat. There was someone standing right there by the water cooler, a man. I'm not sure if he was some kind of permanent spirit resident, or another projector just passing through, but he said something to me like, "You don't have to actually drink it." I responded that I wanted/needed to drink it because my mouth/throat were so dry! I turned back to Amorphis, and said there was something wrong, in my throat. I was very insistent that this was a problem that needed to be fixed. She had me stand against a wall, facing the room. There seemed to be someone with her - like another sort of spirit guide. But I can't remember clearly what it seemed to be. She said something to the effect of, "If this won't find it/figure it out, nothing will," and she held something in her hand that emitted the same kind of white/yellow light, and "scanned" my upper body (head, neck, etc) from my right to my left. It emitted a vertical beam of light. After that, I'm not sure quite what happened, but shortly thereafter I became aware of the sensation of my physical body laying flat on the bed, while I was still projecting. I thought to myself, still in my astral body, that that was really interesting! I could feel my physical body laying on my bed! It was like having a double or split awareness, like two old-fashioned transparency layers, placed on top of each other. Then suddenly, my experience in the astral plane started to dissolve, and I was fully back in my body. And bonk, was my mouth/throat ever dry.

These were the main things I remember. A few other points:

The last time I was carried by the invisible hands (I think), in the series of me asking to see a guide, I opened my eyes to see who or what had carried me, and to express gratitude. I said thank you, and I saw a woman's back, as she was climbing away, up a cliff face, since she was done, having put me down. She was dressed like an Amazon warrior, her long blond hair in an amazing braid - like the Amazonians in Wonder Woman wore. She was dressed exactly like that. I did not see her face, and she didn't respond in any way when I said thank you to her.

Some of the previous instances of me having asked for my spirit guides:

One instance, it seemed like I was being shown a movie screen. I was confused as to what the important part of it was, like what am I supposed to notice or pay attention to? It seemed like someone was standing with me, behind me, and at that point pointed with their arm, and we zoomed in to see that there was a woman who was very sad and upset about something. I think she was crying. The "movie" we were seeing was panning, but one minute the woman was fine, and the scene cut to something else, and then we see the woman upset. The movie didn't actually show what *happened* such that she started to get upset. That seemed to be the important part I was being shown. That this woman is upset. But the "action" of why she was upset happened off-screen/off-camera. As you can see, all this was cryptic, which is probably why I got frustrated and kept asking for different guides!

Another instance seemed as though I was being shown something in parable form. To the best of my recollection, I was being shown the story of how a father or tribe abandoned it's son/one of its own. It seemed somewhere like Africa. There were what looked like geese flying above, in a certain direction. It seemed like they were called "stone geese." At first there was the pain and horror of the abandonment. Then, there seemed to be this sense that the entire point of the abandonment was to teach the son/child something. For instance, the point of the abandonment was so that the son/child could learn to find his way back. Learn to read the direction the birds were flying, learn which direction to go to return home. That sort of thing. My astral self seemed to have an immense realization about something about this, a connection was made. I saw myself holding something - it looked like a red metal tin - and standing or sitting in my old den in my home I grew up in, in Florida. The realization seemed to be, "I was abandoned, too." I'm not entirely sure, but at the time, the realization or connection seemed very clear, and was profound and important, but now of course I don't quite recall.

I have the sense there was much more that I experienced and was shown, but I don't remember.


14 June 2020

out of body experience - astral projection

Again, laying in bed in the morning trying to get some more sleep. Twilight in and out. Suddenly felt vibrations, as if "falling into" vibrations, like a switch was flipped. Since I wasn't out yet, I tried to use the rope pulling technique. Seemed to experience astral noise, clutching hands, etc., ignored it all. When out, asked clearly this time, "Take me to a spirit guide who will answer all my questions verbally in a way that I can understand." Hoped this would get me past the "interpretive dance" stage, as it were. Long journey, it seemed, being carried. Opened my eyes and seemed to be carried by a massive bird of prey, like a hawk or a falcon. Seemed to see other such birds below us flying in the air. I assumed they were carrying other people. Then, I seemed to have a short little helper person who was taking me to see someone specific. There was what seemed like a small hut/teepee, metal scaffolding covered by what looked like black plastic bags. At first I thought it was a weird creature. I almost ran into it, was chastised by my helper to not approach it myself or too quickly. I apologized, saying I'm trying to control my astral body. It wasn't a creature, it was the small teepee with a man sitting inside it. This was all kinda weird. I remember my helper being like, "Well, you said VERBALLY so I had to bring you to this guy." She approached him politely and humbly asked if he would please be willing to speak with me. He said he was too busy! He appeared to me as a muscular man with long hair, in his 60s perhaps, but very fit. Spoke in an Australian accent. Like a beach/surfer dude. Very nice but said too busy to talk to me, gave me a list of things he had to do right then. Turning to leave, it seemed like I saw a long line of people/things waiting to speak to him. So, WTF? Did he just put me off for some reason, but was actually taking questions from others? I felt lost and upset. Again had trouble using my astral voice to speak. Closed my eyes and said, "Take me to a MASTER" who will answer me verbally in a way I can understand, or who will tell me my mission (I can't remember my exact wording). Felt myself being carried again. Tried licking my lips and swallowing repeatedly to be able to speak better. Then the discomfort became so great and my attempts at trying to fix it so intense that I was back in my body. Or woke up, who knows.

Additional note:

Did see melting hands phenomenon.


23 June 2020

Out of body experience - astral projection

NOTE: Between this morning and the last time written about, I had two additional *brief* possible OBEs. One of which involved me trying the "roll out" method so I could tool around here on earth for a bit. I rolled onto the floor next to my bed. I felt so tired I decided to just fall asleep. Problem was that I thought I was still in my body! I thought to myself, Oh well, at least when I wake up again on the floor I'll know something weird happened! I woke up in bed, obviously.

Felt/heard vibrations on and off. I remember laying in bed and touching my tongue to my teeth, confirming to myself I was awake and in bed. I think I may have asked for help getting fully out of my body. The first thing I remember is that I felt like my right hand/arm was loose. The vibrations/sound seem to start and stop, so that's probably why I mentally asked for help to get out. It seemed like I was being helped/lifted out of my body, I felt hands on both sides of me. Lifted up toward the ceiling of my room. It seemed like I could see my ceiling fan. I was afraid I was going to be lifted right into it, even though I knew it wasn't my physical body, I still didn't want to be lifted into it. I didn't really have the chance to think/command where I want to go. Instead, the hands that helped me out of my body seemed to turn my body so instead of laying horizontally on my back, I was vertical. Almost seemed like I was being shoved into my closet, which I didn't want. Then I felt like I was being pushed directly downwards, like into the apartment of my downstairs neighbor. I was like, well, I guess I'll see what her apartment looks like. But instead of emerging into her apartment, it was my house in Florida where I grew up. There was a blonde woman sitting on the loveseat, wearing a green shirt. Her hair was in a ponytail. She was very pretty and was a young woman. I asked, Who are you? She said her name was Kimmy. I said, Hey! Just like that show I'm watching! She said she's here to talk about my schedule for my classes. Then I asked, What are you? Not just who, but what. Like, what kind of entity is she. She didn't seem to either want to answer that question, or that the information wouldn't make sense to me. She said a word, but it sounded like a nonsense word. I was also marveling at how I could see what looked like my old house. We went to sit out on the patio. When I was about to take my seat at the table, some weird creature attached itself to my right upper arm/shoulder. It was green, had something resembling a large frog head but had a body more like a slug. I didn't like it and it didn't seem like a good thing. I was trying to use the techniques I've read about, verbally and forcefully commanding it to leave. Leave me! I banish you! I command you to leave my space! Things like that. I was very upset about the thing on my arm, but the blonde woman didn't seem concerned. She began to make movements like she was going to start offering me assistance. By this point I was trying to scream the thing away from me as loudly as I could, trying to use my astral voice. I may have actually been making sounds IRL in my physical body, because eventually I woke myself up.


24 June 2020

Out of body experience - astral projection

This morning, I tried to put myself in that "half awake half asleep" state, which seems to be triggering the vibrations. It took awhile, at least an hour or two, to get to that place where the vibrations started. I got out, felt hands on both sides of my body again. I felt happy and reached out with my fingertips and held their hands, one on each side, as they carried me. I asked to see the same woman I saw yesterday, the one who wanted to talk to me about the schedule for my classes. That seemed important! Like, hey, we're finally getting somewhere, they're going to teach me stuff! I looked up. It was almost like I was being carried on something like a stretcher - because I was floating flat, horizontally, lower to the ground. We were outside of a building. It was snowing, and I opened my mouth and tasted some of the large snowflakes that were falling. My helpers today were an older white man, who seemed to have a mustache, and a kinda chubby middle aged Asian man. One knocked on the door, and we went inside. It almost seemed like a warehouse or like the back area of a storefront or something. They asked, first, alright, what are all your questions? What do you want to know? Since I'd asked about the schedule for my classes, it seems they wanted to get clear on everything I wanted to know first, as a first step. I said, so many things! I began to list all of my questions, like who am I? Why am I here? What's my mission in this lifetime? What am I supposed to do? How do I best help people? Is it true that I've been a healer in past lives? Is that what I am in this life? What about the shamanism stuff? Was I also a shaman before? Am I one now? It seemed like they interrupted me at one point, and said, OK, let's start here. Handed me a sheet of paper. One sheet with a lot of paragraphs typed on it. The only word I noticed on it was like halfway down and seemed to be in larger font, like starting a new section, and the word was "Lamb". They said they were taking me somewhere specific. We were on the back flatbed of a pickup truck, driving through a lovely country/rural area/town. I asked where we were. The Asian guy told me a word that seemed to begin with a "V" but I couldn't catch/understand it. I asked, but what is that, is it a planet? Didn't respond. They both seemed amused by all my questions. They said I would see both of them again. I was happy about that. Like, Really?! Because so far I never see anyone more than once! Why is that? Again the amusement with my questions and I don't think I got a response, or I didn't understand/don't remember. I wanted to make sure they heard ALL my questions. So I was like, OK, I just want to make sure you guys KNOW. There were all the questions I was listing before, and I wanted to finish my list of questions. Now I added, What does THIS mean? That I can leave my body? Does this mean anything? Am I to use this type of journey (i.e., astral projection) to also help people, get them information and/or healing? The Asian dude seemed to laugh, and said, "You just went from HERE to THERE" - tapping first with his pointer finger on the right side of my forehead, and then moving it to the left side of my forehead. So: "You just went from HERE" --taps right side of my forehead-- "to THERE" --taps left side of my forehead. I was like, Huh? What do you mean? That's all I remember. I thought briefly about my physical body and got sucked back in.


29 June 2020

Out of body experiences - astral projection

On the way out, I almost seemed "stuck" in my head, and I asked for help getting totally out. Seemed to feel the hands pull me fully out of my body. I said/thought, You know all my questions, now please take me to get the answers! It seemed like two middle-aged white men carrying me. Wearing suits, hats, seemed a bit "retro" almost. Kinda like businessmen, or something. I said thank you. I felt glad, thinking I would finally get all my questions answered. I seem sent or even thrown down somewhere, a large indoor room, onto a very nice/fancy floor. It seemed like a fancy bar of a hotel or something. There were two bartenders behind the bar, both wearing tuxes. I was on the floor, and appeared to be wearing some sort of silky risque outfit. Black stockings, very short black silky "shorts" that barely covered my butt. I looked up after landing on the floor, and there seemed to be a high "wall" of many people, perhaps all men, looking at me and clapping from their booths/chairs. While I was maneuvering on the floor to get myself standing up, while looking around me at my surroundings, I could feel soreness in my body/limbs, like it hurt when I landed.

I walked up to the bartenders and said, Quickly, who can answer my questions?! I don't know how much time I'll have before I get sucked back! They put two drinks on the countertop in front of me. They seemed to say they don't know who could answer my questions. One of the drinks looked like sparkling mineral water. I asked if it was water or alcoholic. I even thought to myself, Well, if it's alcohol maybe I can drink it because I'm not in my physical body (since I have alcohol intolerance - I have a chronic illness). Then there was a man sitting at the bar to my left, he said something about me having been drunk when I was there last time. Seemed like he named an event that took place in 1956. I was like, What? Me? Drunk? The bartenders seemed to agree I was drunk at such & such event. I tried opening my "astral" mouth so I could drink the water/or whatever, and voice properly instead of using telepathy (which is what seemed to be happening). It felt like I did, and then, I focused on the sensation of having opened my mouth, and was back in my body with my mouth open.

Second projection, same morning, just a couple hours later

As I was lifting/floating out of my body, my body seemed to pivot (still floating on my back), so that I was facing north. I was going to ask my helping hands again to take me to get my questions answered, but instead, before I could do that - WHOOOOSH! I shot out like from a cannon! I didn't intend this or try for this, it's just what happened. This was a fun ride, I was whizzing through what seemed like a tunnel or wormhole or something - up, up, up and out. So fast! It almost seemed like there was a light at the other end, and I actually thought to myself, Is there a train coming?! I turned my back in the direction I was going for a bit, and then I faced forward again, and it's hard to describe what I saw. It was like I saw a massive black space, but something formed out of light floating within it. Almost like a transparent black orb with red lights around it. Then, there was an opening, the opening was shaped like a star, and it was surrounded by glowing colorful rainbow lights lights. I went through the star-like-shaped opening. I thought to myself I must definitely be entering an astral world, here. I felt glad and happy. It seemed there were people who knew me who were glad I arrived. It appeared like I just landed in some large, massive indoor space, like a convention center or the entrance to an airport. There was even an escalator. I had no idea who the bonk any of them were. I wound up having a lot of trouble controlling my body here, like floating way up when I wanted to go back down to the floor, and my body became incredibly elongated. I was basically Gumby. The people (or whatever they are) helped "compress" my body back for me. They had me floating on my back, and told me to relax and control my breathing. It was like I could actually feel them pushing the "extra leg" length back into my upper legs. I could feel it and it was uncomfortable and weird, but not that bad. But, it seems they compressed me too much, because now I was too short! My head came up to everyone's waist level, so that was annoying. It seemed like they were standing around a tall table/countertop, starting to celebrate with pizza and soda. I asked, Who can answer all my questions?! Someone was like, Gosh, I don't know, no one can answer all that here. I was like, WHAT?! No one?! Not a guide or a master or some really wise person?! It seemed like the one I was talking to got an idea of someone I could talk to. I forget or couldn't understand the name. As everyone was gathered to eat, and me too short, I asked, Do you all know who I am? Then I made the mistake of thinking about worrying about going back to my body. So of course then I was back in my body.


30 June 2020

Out of body experience - astral projection

NOTE: Seemed to have a few brief ones this morning, the one I type below was the last/longest one, although it was also way too short

It felt like I managed to project from inside a dream. I did not feel the helping hands, even when I stated where I wanted them to take me. I felt movement, and I knew I was traveling in a certain direction, but I did not feel hands carrying me. I guess if you project from inside a dream, maybe the hands don't show up. What I said was, "Take me to someone who will teach me how to heal myself and others." I have grown tired of not getting straight answers to my questions, so I'm done waiting for explicit guidance. I had been thinking to myself, maybe part of the "lesson" here is that they won't answer my questions because I need to learn to not wait for them to tell me what my mission is, I just need to choose a mission. I have no idea, that's just one hypothesis I have, regarding why they won't just freaking TELL ME, since I'm asking about it quite directly. Anyway, I moved for what seemed like a long time, and I even wondered, why is this taking so long? Are we there yet? I finally arrived at what seemed like the "get on" point for a carnival ride. There was a crowd milling about, like in a long, snaking line, to get on a ride. The little amusement park cars (all linked together) were on my left. In front of me was a Black woman. It almost seemed like she was running the ride, or some sort of authority figure. Not too old, like in her early 30s perhaps. She seemed the one in charge, the one I was supposed to go talk to. I asked her if she knew who I was, like if she understands why I'm there, what I'm looking for. She seemed to interrupt me and told me to look down. I was confused. What was of significance? Water stands on the floor? No idea. Then she told me, You're covered with it. I said, What, sweat? I couldn't understand what she was trying to convey to me. I thought I'd failed the first "lesson" already! She almost seemed patiently rolling her eyes at me, like, OK, she's not getting it... she began leading me through the crowd, we were going somewhere. I don't know where, because I was suddenly back in my body again.