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Hi Traveler,

I'm glad to read you found your answer. 

Yes, Adrian has been quite busy recently on his new, very highly anticipated project he's been working on, which may or may not be the reason for the missed newsletters.  He's been absent from the OUR forums a bit more often lately as well, which is what usually happens right before he releases his new product or service, so I have a feeling it will not be long before his new service is released. 

Wow, I can't believe it's been that long since I've been to that sight.  I had no idea they were having trouble over there way back then.  But like I said I hardly ever went there.  I only went there on the chance I might find something useful, but I very rarely ever did.

Anyway, thank you very much Kodemaster for the update. 

In case anyone doesn't know already the new Zeitgeist Addendum was released late last night.  I'm currently watching it at the moment.  It's pretty good so far.  I'll try to post some comments on it later after I have finished watching it.

Oh, I almost forgot, lol.  Here's the link to the video:

Zeitgeist Addendum Video
Zeitgeist the Movie Website

Does anyone know what happened to the Astral Society Forums, or the Astras Society website.  I very rarely go there so I'm not sure how long it's been down, but I like to go there every now and then to see what new information that might catch my interest.  I've been trying to pull up the sight for a couple days now and I keep getting the message: "Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later."

I could be misinterpreting the message but the impression I got is that the ship would be centered in the southern hemisphere and stretch as far as Alabama.  That would make for a very large ship.  Probably several thousand miles wide if I'm assuming that statement correctly.

Very interesting.  I just finished watching the youtube videos on Project Blue Beam, and I have a few thoughts about it.

First of all I see nothing wrong with Project Blue Beam.  Actually some of the methods described in the video could be quite beneficial.  For instance there is nothing wrong with destroying the christian, muslim, or any belief system.  Strongly held belief systems do nothing but enslave people, prevents enlightenment, and hinders spiritual development and progress.  A major step to enlightenment is dropping all beliefs.

As far as these telepathic machines that might be capable of mind control, they would have no effect on anyone who has control of their mind, their reality, and because of the Law of Free Will could not possibly effect anyone unless that person, through the creation of their own reality by the Law of Cause and Effect and the Law of Attraction, has given permission on a conscious or sub-conscious level.

The number of claims and speculations about government, corporate, and religious conspiracies have been increasing quite a lot lately across the Internet.  While I believe that a lot of them are true there is absolutely nothing to fear from any conspiring organization whatsoever.  Anything and everything that happens to society is a result of the collective consciousness, and as long as a lot of people continue to believe and focus on these conspiracies they will most likely come true, which of course there is nothing wrong with that - it's just something else to experience.  As long as there continues to be a lot of energy focused on these organizations they will continue to exist.  If everyone focused on world peace instead of conspiracies the conspiracies would cease to exist.  The reason I seen nothing wrong with Project Blue Team or any conspiring organization is that it is our creation and again created at the level of the collective consciousness.  For one thing right and wrong are nothing more than human concepts anyway.  The people that work and participate in these conspiring organizations are here for the same reasons as everyone else on this planet, and that is to gain experience to learn, grow, and progress along the wonderful journey back to Source.

A lot of these conspiracy videos are beneficial in that they seem to increase awareness, but I also notice a bit of fear mongering propaganda in a lot of them as well.  Again there is nothing to fear from any conspiracy as we create and have the ability to control our own reality.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.  If this October 14th event does actually take place, then I look forward to it whether it be real or a holographic image.  It makes no difference either way.  I think it will make for good entertainment and another notch on my belt of experience.  I always enjoy a good light show.  And who knows, maybe an event like this could actually change the perception of the majority of society, preferably in a positive way.

Oh and back to the topic of the telepathic machines.  I noticed in the video that it said they could use the telepathic machines to enter the brain making you think you are hearing the voice of God.  There is a nice little guideline I got from Kryon's Website about determining the validity and credibility of channelers.  I believe the same guideline could be used in this situation as well:

1. There will always be useful information for everyone. Beware of the channel that gives you useful information for only a few, or tells you that it's only for a special group or a sequestered number. It must be useful for ALL humanity, every single Human. This is an area of discernment allowing you to know you are hearing the truth.

2. The message should be uplifting. Watch for an empowering message - NOT ONE OF FEAR, not one that drags you down - not one that makes you want to take fearful action or hide - but an enabling message! This is a staple of God energy. It must be there. It should inspire the listener and reader. Every recorded angel appearance before a Human Being has begun with "Fear not!"

3. Spirit (God) will never, ever channel a message that asks you to give up your free will. Never! For your free will is what your experience on Earth is all about as you sit in your "chairs of gold" (a metaphor created in Kryon Book Six). Free will! FREE CHOICE is what drives your future.

4. Spirit will never give you a message - ever - that asks you to violate the integrity of what you believe. You are honored in your thought processes. Spirit will never trick you or "talk you" into anything. The message must never violate your integrity. You must feel comfortable with it, and it must ring true to your heart.

5. Spirit will never represent a channeller as being the only source. Watch for this, for there are many channels of Spirit and they all coordinate their information to create a bigger picture, especially in this New Age. They will NEVER represent themselves as the ONLY source of information.

6. Watch for the fact that the information is normally new information. Beware of the channel that simply re-hashes the old, for they are not channelling anything but the ego of the Human Being. New information is necessary, combined with "core information," it is the entire reason for the channel. Think about it.

7. Watch for the fact that channelled information should have spiritual solutions presented. Solutions to life challenges on Earth, via new information, is the purpose of channelling.

Disney is a pretty good advocate for enlightenment in that the overall theme of Disney would appear to be Imagination.  You can see the message in most if not all their movies, shows, and commercials.  I'm not sure if anyone here has been to Disney World, but imagination appears to be their main theme.  The message is subtle and subliminal in some areas, and strongly apparent in others.  Imagination is mostly apparent at Epcot as they stress using imagination in most of their rides and throughout the park.  The message on imagination at Epcot is that you can do, be, and create anything you want by using your imagination.  Disney World is a good place for exploring and expanding your mind as well as sparking and increasing your imagination; not only for young children but for adults as well.  I believe Disney World can be as educational as it is entertaining.

Hello SnakeDoctor,

That is very interesting because I have also been dreaming about a person constantly for about 12 years now.  I usually have the dreams, that I can remember, from anywhere around once or twice a month to 2 or 3 times a week.  They are mostly only casual dreams that she just happens to be in.  Most of the dreams are from the time we were in school.  Probably because we went to school together from 2nd grade through to graduation.

I agree with Mydral in that there could be some emotional attachment causing the reoccurring dreams.  We did have feelings for each other through school, but seemingly not at the same time.  Apparently she had a crush on me at some point through the years that I did not find out until later, and then I had developed a crush on her as well, but not until later, so we never actually synced together so to speak.  At the time I had developed a crush on her I was too scared to pursue a relationship because I had feared that it could ruin our friendship since we were really good friends.  There have been several times that I have woken up from the dream with a feeling of regret.  Probably because I might have felt we could have been together, and I missed out on the opportunity.  The feeling will usually last a day or two then finally fades away.

I have tried exploring the reasons as to why I keep dreaming about her, but I have yet to figure it out.  It's possible it could be due to the reason I stated above, but I don't have these feelings outside the dreams... at least not consciously, and I never think about her at all during the day.  There will be times where I don't dream or think about her for several months then all of a sudden she pops back in again.  What is weird is that I didn't start dreaming about her until 7 years after we graduated from high school.  There have been several vivid dreams where we would carry on long conversations with each other.  Some of the conversations have been about how our lives have been going so far.  So maybe we are connected in some way inner dimensionally, and even though we were never meant to be together we still communicate with each other on an inner dimensional level.  But that's just a guess.  However, if we are having some sort of inner dimensional communication going on, I can't help but wonder if I keep showing up in her dreams as well.

Anyway, as far as I know she is still happily married, and I have been quite happily married for over 15 years now.  Even though I have these dreams quite frequently, they don't really bother me.  It's more of a curiosity as to why I have the dreams.  I haven't done any research into the details of the dreams, mainly because I'm to busy with other things at the moment.

I don't know if giving my experience on this was any help or not, and I'm not sure what advice I could give that could possibly give your friend some relief from the depression she's having due to these dreams.  I do believe there is a meaning to every dream, but since most dreams are metaphoric and symbolic in nature it can be hard to figure out the meaning.  I would highly suggest that she keep a dream journal, and record any and all of her dreams that she can recall.  There is an excellent on-line dream journal where she can record her dreams in case she is interested located here: http://www.dreamjournal.org/dj/

Remaining conscious of all your actions is no easy feat, however, it is possible. That, I believe, is a goal every individual should strive for. (again, my opinion only).

Hello Novice,

I definitely agree with you on that.  Maintaining a constant state of awareness has been one of several goals of mine.  I've been practicing awareness for the last 13 months, and I have made pretty good progress so far.  Some days are easier than others, but it has been challenging at times to maintain a constant state of awareness which has included remaining conscious of all my actions, thoughts, and feelings.  I have found through my experience the more I practice the easier it is to maintain awareness to the point that it is automatic.  My ultimate goal in this particular exercise is to maintain a 24 hour awareness, and I am getting close.  I'm now at the point that I maintain a constant state of awareness all throughout the day and almost the entire night.  Training my mind to stay awake and aware throughout the night has been quite challenging to say the least, but it's gradually getting easier every night, and I feel that it will not be too much longer before I will have achieved 24 hour awareness.

Anyway, I could go into a lot more with my experience on the topic of remaining conscious of all my actions, but I really didn't want to make my reply this long.  I just wanted to add a little potential confirmation to your statement I quoted above by the experience I've had thus far with awareness.

You might check out what Adrian, the founder of the Astral Pulse, says about reincarnation in his ebook Our Utlimate Reality. He provides a pretty clear cut view of an alternative model.

I agree.  Adrian has an excellent 21 page chapter on reincarnation.  I would love to directly quote some of the chapter here, but I feel a little leery about doing that without his permission.  Maybe Adrian could do that himself if he happens to see this post.  That might not be likely though as I here he is quite busy converting his ebook version of "Our Ultimate Reality" to a text book version.  If anyone is really curious maybe they could send Adrian a message to stop by and give his thoughts on the topic of reincarnation.  Or like DH said you could just get the book.  Personally I would highly recommend getting the book.  In my opinion "Our Ultimate Reality" is the most enlightening book I have ever read and well worth the read.

I've heard that you choose the time and place you're born and all other circumstances such as parents, with a plan of what you will accomplish in that life so that you can plan obstacles you can overcome and lessons you can learn and

goals you can accomplish in that lifetime.

Hello sk8chik,

I definitely agree with that scenario.  Our higher or inner-self exists within the inner spheres of the mental or higher planes of the Universe where time and space do not exist, so the past, present, and future of our linear existence within the temporal, physical Universe all exist at the same time.  I personally believe our inner-self knows exactly what sort of life we need to choose and what circumstances will occur during each incarnation that can be used in order to learn the proper lessons for our spiritual development.  Therefore I believe our inner-self will choose the location of the planet we will be born on and the parents we will be born into.  I feel like it's a wonderful method of experiencing life on our journey back to the Source.

Of course, with free will and the almost complete disconnection from the divine that accompanies being born into this world, everything doesn't always go as planned

Yeah, and the wonderful thing about free will is that we can take as much time as we need to learn from our experiences while we progress.  There's no deadline, no rush, and no race to the finish line.  I believe there are lots of souls who do not learn from there lessons while incarnated in the physical world and therefore will ultimately have to reincarnate again to hopefully learn from the lessons the next time.  After passing on from the physical world some people enjoy life in the astral realms so much that they will spend many many years related to our temporal existence here on Earth before they realize they eventually need to incarnate to further evolve from learning lessons in the physical world that otherwise they could not have learned while in the astral worlds.

a feeling of deja vu could be a feeling of a connection with that life plan you made, like a divine moment of an alignment with your higher self.

That certainly makes sense, and I feel like that could be a reason for some, or maybe even a lot of the deja vu's we experience.  I've had a few deja vu's as well as synchronicites in my lifetime, but at the moment I don't focus much on them or do any research or investigate on them when they happen as they are not currently part of the exercises and methods I use as my daily routine for my spiritual development.  They do sound interesting though, and I'm sure makes living life in the physical world a little more exciting and mysterious.

Can somebody please explain to me what exactly is deja vu? I've experienced it enough that I just can't dismiss it as any "mis-timing of neural firing" bull.

I'd like to clarify when I say deja vu, I don't mean just a "feeling". I'm talking about what this quote says:
Though the majority of dreams are never remembered, a dreaming person can display activity in the areas of the brain that process long-term memory. It has been speculated that dreams read directly into long-term memory, bypassing short-term memory entirely. In this case, déjà vu might be a memory of a forgotten dream with elements in common with the current waking experience. This may be similar to another phenomenon known as déjà rêvé, or "already dreamed."

Not only is the link to dreams as they pertain to déjà vu the subject of scientific and psychological studies, it is also a subject of spiritual texts, as is found in, for example, in the writings of the Bahá'í Faith with quotes like "...perchance when ten years are gone, thou wilt witness in the outer world the very things thou hast dreamed tonight.and "Behold how the thing which thou hast seen in thy dream is, after a considerable lapse of time, fully realized."

Hi LonelyShadow,

Here is a quote from Kryon that might help or you might find interesting:

QUESTION: Dear Kryon: What's really happening during the experience known as "déjà vu"?

ANSWER: You're tapping in to the "now" in a very interesting way.

A metaphor: See your reality as a life that has many tracks or potentials that you call "the future." Everything you've done and all those potentials together make up the "whole" of the now experience. In your mind, place this "now experience" in a very large balloon-shaped space, where they're pasted to the inside of the balloon's interior. Now, place yourself in the middle of this balloon and look around. You're now standing in a place where everything you did is there, along with the potentials of everything you might do. There's no predestination, but plenty of avenues of potential. But since you're looking at everything (esoterically), you're "feeling" it, too, and you actually have some kind of interdimensional foreknowledge of what might happen depending on the road you take.

Now, return to 4D. Even though you're sitting there reading these words in normal reality, there's still part of you that's always in that balloon, but you're not aware of it. So when some of these potentials finally happen, there's part of you that says, "I've been there and done that! Wow! Déjà vu!" All that has really happened is that you're just recognizing the potentials you built for yourself, and felt early, which are now manifested into your linear reality.

I found this link in another forum: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

I just watched that video yesterday for the first time.  It was very interesting.  I might watch it again whenever I have the time.  I usually don't have 2 hours to spare, but once I started watching it yesterday I couldn't stop, lol.  How did you guys feel about the movie?  I'm not sure what to think about it at the moment, which is why I would like to watch it again.  I'm usually very open minded, but at the same time I'm usually in control or at least I try to stay in control of my belief system as much as I can.  Sometimes it can be challenging to maintain control of my beliefs with the constant bombardment of the media, but a fun challenge none the less.  Anyway, before I get off on a tangent like I tend to do sometimes, I would need to ponder the information from this movie a bit and rely on myself or higher self for what I would perceive to be the truth before I came to any conclusions or opinions.  The movie sure seems to put things in perspective and really gets you thinking.  A lot of the information in the video seems to make logical sense.  One thing I always keep in mind is that even if these governments, corporations, organizations, etc. exist to conspire, abuse, and take advantage of humanity for their own personal selfish gain of money and power there are still people who work and control these organizations that are spiritual beings like everyone else who are on the same path with the same ultimate goal that we all have.

Here is what I currently believe will happen to these perceived conspirators.  These organizations operate in an old energy from an old Earth with lower vibrations.  These old energies are struggling to survive in a new Earth with energies that are vibrating at a higher rate that have been and continues to increase as more and more people become enlightened and awakened.  As more people continue to deposit more love and positive energy into the Earth the vibration of the Earth continues to increase.  Eventually these old energies will not be able to survive and will be extinguished from the Earth like early morning fog that disappears as the sun rises toward noon.  It has been mentioned that events like 911 will be the catalyst that will help push the shift in consciousness to a new awareness, a new reality, a new age.  I believe that is true.  Hehe, it's even been said on other websites that whether George Bush is seen as good or bad in the future he will be seen as the catalyst who brought change that eventually led to peace in the middle east.  I personally find that challenging to believe at the moment, but you never know.  He certainly seems to be the one who stuck a stick in an ant bed and stirred it up real good, hehe.  As Adrian has mentioned in his book the entire universe works in perfect harmony without exception.  If it didn't it would collapse in on itself in an instant.  I believe all the perceived horrors and atrocities that seem to occur on almost a daily basis will eventually balance itself out.

Anyway, again I thought the video was pretty interesting.  I hope that other people who see this video will become aware that they are and have always been in complete control of their own reality and not the government or any organization for that matter.  A bit of warning to anyone who hasn't seen the video yet, there is a little bit of vulgar language in some of the clips, but not much.

Here is some pretty good information about the Earth's grid system by Kryon who is a nonphysical spiritual entity channelled by Lee Carroll:

The Magnetic Grid and You
The grid system of the earth is specific in its purpose. It is fine-tuned, and it exists for only one reason: Human setup. Although you might think it is a geological attribute of the physics of the planet, it is more than that. It is a DNA delivery engine! That is what the grid system does. It talks to Humanity Human-by-Human, and it is part of who you are personally. It helps to both separate you and also unite you. It gives you setups, challenges, solutions, and love. It is what some of you relate to even when you think about God! Some would say, "Kryon, I don't like that idea of physics entering the realm of spirituality. I don't like the grid of the earth being part spiritual." I will say to you... it is the way of it! For as creators that you are, you have created everything that you have before you, including the test, the duality, the contracts, and the engine that administers them to your cellular structure. You cannot separate Spirit from your reality. You might wish to believe that it is somehow above that which is physical, but the truth is that it is the center of all that is physical. You can't leave God out of anything!

We are going to reveal some of the attributes of what you call your DNA. The magnetic grid of the planet is complicated, but it has remained chiefly as a delivery system to Humanity for many, many years. There has been very little change in terms of what it does, for Humanity never looked "up" to consider that the grid might be a changeable thing. Humanity never gave intent to claim the power of what was at the cellular level, or to consider what might be changeable within their lives. Even the prophets of old gave you information that you could change everything, yet you did not. Only seemingly at the 11th hour of the plan you created did you decide to change your reality, and you did. In order to do that, a grid-changing entourage arrived in 1989, which to me is now. In your time frame, a shift of the magnetic grid began, and now you know why. Your intent to create a new reality of Earth demanded that the "engine" of magnetics be changed to allow you to excel. Let me continue.

In order to accomplish the New Jerusalem - in order for solutions to begin - in order for you to change the very essence of why you are here - in order for longer life - in order for revealed science - in order for Spirit to speak through Human Beings as a normal event of life, all of the communication through the posturing of the magnetics that speaks to your DNA had to be "changed." And so it was that the grid system began to move! You moved it! Those that called themselves Lightworkers felt it, and those who were spiritual felt it. It began gradually to change and then accelerated. The actual changing of the grid was far more than the magnetics that you can measure on a compass. The very spiritual aspects of the ley lines, their shape, their uniformity, their synchronicity with other ley lines, changed to create a new setup, and a new earth potential. Instead of termination, you rode this wave of change, and here you sit one year away from its completion, lightworker! We know that some of you have felt the move of the grid. We know of your anxiousness, but there are things that are beginning to fall into place as the move settles and the new posturing of this magnetic energy comes to a close, where it will begin to affect the planet differently and finally become stable.

Let me tell you about the grid. In 4D [Human dimensionality], you have said that you have two DNA strands [loops or toroids]. That is so. Those who would tell you that you have 12 are giving you a 4D description of a multidimensional puzzle. There are truly only two biological strands. All of the rest, the ten that are not mentioned and not described and not see-able in 4D, are in layers within the two you can see. They are not additional strands or loops or toroids. They lay upon the biological ones, many of them interfacing biologically with the strands that you are able to see. So, there are really two strands with another ten interdimensional aspects upon them. That is how you arrive at the 12. Do you see? Ten you cannot see, and two you can.

Let me tell you about your DNA. It is magnetic, and therefore it responds to the grid! With respect to magnetics, gravity, time, and matter placement: There is a puzzle here that has never been unraveled. It never could be within your old 4D paradigm. Now, suddenly in this new energy, your science begins to understand that there are at least 11 dimensions at the heart of every atom of matter. (We have told you that there are 12.) And suddenly you are beginning to understand that even time is variable. Later, there will also be the acknowledgment that the displacement of matter from one area to another is also part of this equation. There is one specific formula whose attributes are gravity, magnetics, time, and the location of matter. They all come together in a grand dance that will be the "mother lode" of physics when it is discovered and understood. When it is ready, this information will be brought to you, but for now, let me tell you about the "pattern" of how this works for your DNA.

The entire channelling in case anyone is interested.

I also think this would be a most wonderful event.  The more people that can participate the better.  I think the Twin-Hearts Meditation specified in Adrian's book "Our Ultimate Reality" would be perfect for this event, so I will most likely be using that meditation for this occassion.

There are other ways to be free from perceived physical limitations like dependency on food, water, sleep, etc. without expiring the physical body in the process.  While certainly there's nothing wrong with their path to spiritual enlightenment as everyone has free will to choose their own path, but I'm sure most people including myself would rather free ourselves from certain physical bondages within the physical plane of existence and still maintain a healthy body.  The method by the man in the video shouldn't be confused with the life of an inediate (a person who lives a life without food).  Watching the video could be discouraging to anyone who is seriously trying to become an inediate without the deteriorating effects as shown in the video.  There are many people who are already successfully living a life without food, and have been doing it for many years.  Below are some links to books and methods for anyone who might be interested learning how to live without food.

Breatharian - At the bottom of this page is a link to download a text or pdf document with several different instructions or methods to becoming an inediate.
Solar Healing Center - Here Hira Ratan Manek teaches how to use the sun.  Unfortunately I cannot use this method myself because I live around too many trees, hehe.
Cosmic Internet Academy - This is my favorite site on this subject.  I highly recommend book 3 of the Living on Light in the divine nutritional series entitled "The Food of Gods".

Hey Rastus, welcome back.    It's been a long time since I've seen you around, including other forums and such.  No one ever goes to the #AstralChat room anymore as you probably already know.  That used to be a really nice place to talk about metaphysics, astral worlds, spirituality, etc.  As always I still lurk around many other lucid dreaming, obe, and astral projection forums, including this one hehe, and chat rooms picking up lots of valuable information here and there.

I am glad to here how far you've come over the last 3 years.  Your manifestations sound exciting.  I've made quite a bit of progress myself since the last time we spoke.  I now lucid dream and have obe's pretty regularly, although I don't really consider them different, just the way I perceive the experience.  I'm currenty working on my next goal that for myself has been more euphoric and exciting than just nighlty lucid dreams.  I've even given this goal a name.  I called it "Removing the Veil".  A phrase I adopted from Kryon.  Anyway, I could write several pages about my journey on this goal so far, so I'll just make it short and just say that the journey has been quite amazing so far.

Have fun on your journeys, and like you said "simply being here on Earth is an adventure in itself".    Hope to see you around again soon.

There was a documentary on T.V. a few years ago about a radio disc jockey who performed an experiment on himself by staying awake as long as possible.  I think it was on the Biography channel, but I cannot remember for sure.  Anyway, he managed to stay awake at the radio station for several days - it might have been a week.  During that time his body went through several strange phases.  There were points where he would remain consciously awake but his body would fall asleep.  He had several hallucination spells (probably actual obe's, but they didn't mention that term on the show).  I can't remember why he was doing this experiment or what the show was even about since this show was aired several years ago.  Anyway, when he finished his experiment his body never recovered and became very ill and eventually died shortly afterward.  If I remember correctly he died several months after the experiment due to illness.

Anyway the reason I'm posting this is to make sure you are careful when doing this.  It might not be too safe.

I also very much enjoy readin OUR.  I've read it twice and will probably read it again when I finish my training on some other reading material, lol.  I will eventually order the Developing Psychic Powers, but I agree with Vvid1012.  I kind of get turned off by the whole sales pitch, but since I'm currently working on my belief system I just put that aside and instead of focusing on how the material is being presented I just focus on what I could possibly benefit from the information contained within these books.  I'm sure that I will benefit from the information regardless.  I just need to save up again after buying a lot of other books, hehe.

What about the Tesla Purple Energy Shield also adverstised on the same site?  From reading the information between the 2 devices the Tesla Purple Energy Shield appeared to be just as effective if not more than the Hyperdimensional Oscillator.  Do you know if anyone has had any success with the purple device?

I'm already having pretty good success with the lucid dreaming training I'm undergoing right now, but I also like looking for devices or methods that could "temporarily" help speed the progress.  I stress temporary because I don't like to use such devices permanently.  I only try to use them as training wheels then put them away once I have become well trained enough to easily perform lucid dreaming and astral projection on my own.

Anyway, please let us know if you or anyone else has anymore feedback from the oscillator or the purple device.  Thanks. 

I also enjoyed Frank's views and valuable information.  For a while I kept doing a search on his posts hoping he was coming back, but I gave up after a while.  I was looking forward to his book "Astral Projection Truth".  Thankfully there are several other valuable sources of information on AP.  Anyway, good luck Frank wherever you are.

Oh and Patterns, thanks for posting.    I'm always looking for a good test anywhere I can find it.    Especially since I just recently started about a month ago reconstructing, re-evaluating, and expanding my belief system as a new daily exercise.

For myself, I'm not concerned about who stole what from whom, or if the info has any valid proof to it or not.  I just care about the info itself and how I can apply it to my own reality.  I've perused through a lot of this website and so far I like what I read and will be reading it a lot more.  It appears to have some pretty valuable information for myself as well as several other sites...including this one.  

I've had a few spontaneous OBE's, and I feel I'm close to actively having AP's at will.  I've had many close phasing experiences, especially since I've been working hard on lucid dreaming.  Once I have achieved several successful projections my next goal is to be able to project/travel through the astral and/or rtz at will at any time, even while consciously awake and physically active.

Why are you all wasting your time arguing with him? Dont you think as an online community that we have more important things at hand???  Abraham:   Why do you come to a forum that is so different from your beliefs and try to change our viewpoint?  I am sorry if you feel you are here to shed the light onto us and our sorcerous and pagan beliefs but its all for not!!!!  Can't you see that?  This forum is for open minded and exploratory reasons, not some dogmatic justification or forcing of views on others.  Kindly find another place to spread your hate and leave us to our own devices.  

I have come so far simply from opening up to new ideas and exploring myself and my beliefs, I am sorry you cant feel the same.  Its a dog eat dog world out there, even when it comes to beliefs and I am sorry not everyone can feel the same way you can.  We are a tight community here. Claiming we are false gods and saying we are on crack isnt the way to an open and welcomed dialog here.  Dont you see the hate and confrontational nature of your posts?  The blind irrational nature of your beliefs?  Please.... spare the members here your time and move on.

If you wish to challenge us and post your own experiences feel free, but until then kindly mosey on to greener pastures.   Thanks.

Hehe, yeah this is pretty much a pointless thread, but atm moment it's kind of fun to play around with.

Oh, and sorry for the double post.  I was making a reply from page 6 then saw page 7, lol.  

I was just curious.  What's so important about proof?  Is it to satisfy the ego?  I was just wondering.

Abraham, I have a question.  Well actually I guess this question is also for those that focus on a religious sect like christianity, muslim, islam, etc.  What happens if I don't follow God?