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Yeah I admit that there are exceptions to the rule, but by and large were not born gender neutral.

Biology and Procreation aside... the things I'm referring to, as I pointed out above, are entirely constructs of society.

I'm a "male" and everything I've learned about BEING a "male" are things which society has taught me... and they're all completely meaningless.
Males have short hair... males don't wear pink... males are protectors... males don't cry.

Get what I'm saying now?  I'm talking BEYOND the biology.

This goes entirely into the subject of "masculine energy".  Such a thing simply doesn't exist.  Energy is as neutral as it comes.
It requires a consciousness (us) to define it, to label it... but it's still an entirely subjective label.

I'm referring to the type of crap like boys wear blue and girls wear pink.

When in actuality, not 100 years ago, it was the opposite... because "they" (aka: society) said so.

There is a reason that men are suppose to act like men and women are suppose to act like women.

Actually, there is no reason for the subjective beliefs that men should act one way, and women should act another.  None at all.
Society told you what to believe and see what you're doing?  You're sitting here attempting to reinforce that belief.

To some degree one has to grow into a man with masculine energy. It doesn't necessarily come naturally. We would do best to grow into our roles. Boys learning to be men and girls learning to be women. It creates a good dynamic. Nothing worse than having women act like men and vise versa.

Why?

That's the kind of "label" thinking I'm referring to.  Our society has these lines drawn in the sand and if you deviate from that line, you get laughed at.

What exactly does "acting like a man" mean?  What does "acting like a woman" mean?

I know you have answers for those questions, we all do, but they're NOT REAL answers... they're what society has conditioned you to believe. 
Just like society has conditioned you to think that you're just a physical body in this physical reality and that's it.

When you TRULY break down through the crap which society has taught you to be true... you find there's really no substance behind most of it.  It's just fear.

This also goes DIRECTLY into this talk about "masculine energy"... such a thing doesn't exist.  There is only "consciousness".  That's the one truth of everything.

If someone says, "This "physical reality" *IS* an "astral reality"." and someone else says, "No, they're not" ... they are not both correct.

That's fine.  You're allowed to believe whatever you want.  We've had vastly different experiences which have driven our separate conclusions.

My experiences have shown me that this physical reality is simply one of an infinite number of "non-physical" realities and everything is consciousness. 
You simply haven't reached that point yet.  That's okay, because you will one day.  It's the natural progression of things.  I have no doubt of that. 

You can apologize to me later. 

This deserves repeating!! Whoop!

I'll definitely second that! 

If that's "illogical thinking" to you... when the truth slaps you in the face and you refuse to believe it because of the box you've placed yourself into... well, you're illustrating my point perfectly.

That's exactly what I refer to when I say people get stuck in their boxes.  You refuse to even consider what I'm saying because you're stuck in your way of thinking. 
I used to be stuck in that way of thinking too until I opened my mind to other possibilities.

But feel free to enjoy your box.  I know how comforting it can be to have something to hold onto like that... 

I disagree.

The physical realm is physical. The astral realm is non-physical, by definition. They are labeled differently because they are different. Just like the "H" and the "C" on typical water faucets. These are very useful labels and you do not want to confuse them.

Have you ever really felt around during your projections?  Ran your hand along a wall?  Climbed a tree?  Felt the breeze on your face?  I have, and I've done this kind of test MANY times... the conclusion come to is that what we subjectively call the "non-physical" *IS*, in fact, VERY physical while you're experiencing it.  So, then, it simply becomes a matter of perspective, because when I'm "there", this physical reality is what feels like the non-physical reality. 

It's not until I really started to delve deeper into projection that I found that the labels "Physical" and "Non-physical" are whole-fully inadequate to define our experiences.  Kind of like what I was saying the other day about the term "OBE" from Monroe.  They're limiting labels which, in turn, only limit yourself.

For me, the terms simply don't work anymore.  My experiences don't fit neatly into the classical boxes/labels I've been given, so I throw them away in an attempt to stay "box-less".

fatfooty, to get a better understanding you might want to read a couple books on the subject. Maybe try Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce. He describes a layer he calls the RTZ or Real Time Zone that is an exact replica of earth that many people see when they get OBE. It is not what I would call "astral" but since most people have never consciously projected there it doesn't really matter.

Actually, I'd stay FAAAAAAAAAAR away from Robert Bruce.  He's a fear-monger.  The only thing you will learn from him is to fear your non-physical experiences.  He spreads fear in the hopes that "HE" is the only one who can help you.  You'll find he posts a lot about negative spirits and such and expounds this information to the point where it's become extremely tiresome.

He did a "discussion/interview" with Tom Campbell once and it was extremely enlightening to see the two of them talk.  He's so fear-based that he's like an open book.

So a male physical body contains as feminine so masculine energy?

They're just labels.  Everything is consciousness.  Consciousness has no "gender" beyond what we subjectively assign to it, hence why they're just labels.

Does the astral world look like the physical one?

Let's put it this way...
This "physical reality" *IS* an "astral reality".

Google "Yin/Yang"

When did society become allergic to "labels"?

Labels can be a very useful tool. Tools can be used in a variety of ways. A hammer is usually used to build something or make quick progress on a project that would otherwise take a very long time without it. Just because someone occasionally uses it to break into someone's home does not make it a bad thing all of a sudden.

You may think I'm totally against labels... but, I'm not.  Labels are how we communicate.  It's actually how our language works.  It works rather well when we provide a label for something and then we all agree upon the definition of that label.

What I'm against is when people think that their particular (subjective) label is how it is and the ONLY way it can be and exclude anything from their experience which doesn't fit that label.  They end up doing more harm than good to themselves.

Take the term "OBE" for example: "OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE".
This is probably THE worst thing Robert Monroe ever unleashed on the world as, in my perspective, at no point are you ever "out" of your "body".  You're not even *IN* a body to begin with.
But, you have people today who try sooooooooooo very hard to get "out" of their body... that even if they do have a valid projection, but it doesn't include that sensation of "leaving" their body, then they discard the entire experience.  This is putting the cart before the horse and I see it happen OFTEN here on the Pulse.

Ultimately, (and especially in regards to this subject) labels blind people and keep them stuck in a box.  Anything which happens outside the box, anything which doesn't easily and neatly fit into one of the many labels someone knows, gets thrown away.  I try to get people to, at the very least, WIDEN their box a bit so that much less falls to the outside. 

Breaking out the Shakespeare quotes!  Stuff just got real folks. 

Instead of forcing I decided to just let the vibrations continue which became more intense to a maximum but I found myself still mostly stuck to my head, I think the other parts of my body are much easier to separate. When concentrating on leaving my body that concentration causes me to be attached to my physical brain. If I don't think I just lie there doing nothing and without the thought method I use to induce the vibrations, the vibrations stop. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

That's what I mean, ultimately when it comes down to the basics... you're not "separating" different parts of your body.
When you fall asleep at night and "dream", you don't put your different body parts to sleep at different times... you just FALL ASLEEP, all at once.  And WHY does that happen?  Because you ALLOW it to happen... you allow yourself to "drift" (funny use of that word, eh?) off to sleep.  You DRIFT OFF TO SLEEP. 

It's really no different than when you're trying to project.  You DRIFT off to project.  They're essentially the same process, the only difference is one you're losing awareness when it happens and the other you retain awareness.

Stop trying to separate different body parts, and (as Nike put it so well) "Just do it!".
It's the same with sleep paralysis... if you're experiencing sleep paralysis, then you're already projecting... stop fighting it and just relax and go.

Hi,

I can get to the vibration stage quite easily but on trying to leave my physical body I find I am still too attached to it, stuck to it. If I really force it I get to the stage where you can hear the buzzing noise but I refrain from continuing so as to not risk it as the amount of strain on my physical body at that point is relatively extreme. Any advice welcome.

Thanks

You're not "too attached", you just don't realize exactly what you're trying to do!
You can't force any of this.  The more you "force it", the most your physical body is going to tell you off.

Relax... realize you're a consciousness in a river and allow the current to take you away.

You're simply not allowing that process to take place.  ALLOW yourself to flow.

Lionheart as Lumaza is still here but seems like he is busy.

Yup, Lionheart is still around as Lumaza.  Had a small name change is all.  He's still the fountain of knowledge he always was. 

Confusing the sleep disorder known as "sleep paralysis" with entering the "mind awake, body asleep" condition does not change anything regardless of how frequently that particular mistake is made.

Oh, I'm not talking about MA/BA.  I'm referring specifically to "sleep paralysis".

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

^ That's a sticky in this very subforum at the top, done by Bedeekin. 

Me neither. In fact no one really would if they actually knew what it was. It is a highly undesirable sleep disorder.

If I can get Bedeekin to come back and post a bit more about his experiences with Sleep Paralysis...
He used it as a leap-board to projection for the last, oh, I believe 20 or 30 years.

His method for doing it is posted on the board somewhere.

Some of those things I wish nobody "knew" still... as they do nothing but confuse people further about an already confusing subject.

To be fair, the "left handed" = "devil" thing is from *centuries* ago.  It's not a modern day thing (I dunno *when* it stopped though, can't find the research on such short time frame).
They *DID* hold that particular belief at one time in the far past.

I'm still lost.   

Oh well... you don't get anywhere nice by knowing where you're going! 

I've always felt that people's egos get in the way of seeing any true numbers.

I remember Tom Campbell saying something about this... playing around with it...
He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that every time he looked for the numbers, got some, and played them... he wouldn't win.
Every time he looked for numbers, got some, and DID NOT play them... the numbers would win.

There's a lesson of Intent in there somewhere.

I think I'm missing something here... you're taking projection lessons from a demon?  O_o

What she said. 

Words are just symbols. 

What if, to you, "banana split sundae!" meant "see now!"... see? 
It's not WHAT you say, it's not even HOW you say it... it's the INTENT. 
The INTENT provides the non-physical OOMPH behind... it IS the action.

BANANA SPLIT SUNDAE!!

I"m going to examine the contents of Xanth's refrigerator now muahahahahhahahahahaahah  just kidding.  well.. I did that with a friend the other day they kinda tripped out over it ... it was fun

Oh you don't want to do that... the last person who did... well... we still aren't sure where they are. 

Here's what I've learned so far...

This physical reality is just one of an infinite number of "astral" (non-physical) realities.  The labels "physical" and "non-physical" are actually horrible labels to define your environment with.
You don't "enter" the "astral".  You and everything you experience *IS* consciousness.  This includes, as I said above, this "physical" reality and all other realities.

Using this information, what can you conclude from your own post above?