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Who would think something so powerfully made in the Material World would also be so evil?

i'm going to use credit cards from now on.  they have no evil symbols on them, lol.

Anyway here's me in a cowboy hat.

you look like you're sleeping in the picture.  is this when you were having your projection, lolol?

I think its made of souls.

i don't quite follow.

Wow! look at the first one!! if that thing swam by me underwater i'd crap myself!

they don't need water in the astral planes, lolol.  they'll just levitate past you through the air instead.

For gods sake don't anyone let anything looking like that loose in the astral!!

well, the one in the video died, so they're accumulating in the astral planes, lolol.

Safe to say you've seen an Angel on the astral realms then.

could be, depending on how the experience may be interpreted.  it was a higher frequency being.

I would suggest that completely stilling the mind loses the ego identity - albeit temporarily.

okay.

That's an interesting theory, no doubt.  Do you have any experience or someone else's experience backing it?

it's contained in HP Blavatsky's writings.  and i've directly witnessed various shifts of appearance in my own astral body, as well as with other entities.

There will come a day when all people are free. They already are, but they have to realize it for themselves.

i realize that i'm free.  i'm just waiting for my mortgage lender to come to the same level of enlightenment.

Did I say plane? I meant kitchen floor.

So what words of wisdom did they transmit.

no words interestingly enough.  just the occasional dream hologram from the robed one.  more visual.

if you encounter these prehistoric creatures on the astral planes, head in the opposite direction:

PS, these are quite real:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZzehRHxtB8&NR=1

Its a real construct to prevent the utilization of energy or "magic" if you will.

artificial metals of high density are perhaps the greatest dampeners of subtle mystical energies, whereas various natural crystals tend to amplify mystical energies.

Apparently Earth is actually quite valuable land and there where a good amount of battle over it. The war was going no where so some decided to put up the barrier so that battles couldn't be conducted. or something like that.

are these artificial constructs that are located in the astral dimensions?  have they somehow been detected?  sounds like some form of 'anti-pyramids' or something, along different dimensional frequencies.  would they dampen higher or lower dimensional frequencies?  or both?

i'm still picking up telepathic clutter from the astral planes, so there must still be some mystical channels which are functionally open.

So you're saying that to still the mind is to invite mental illness?

stilling the mind is by no means mental illness.  i'm instead referring to the removal of the ego-identity.  stilling the mind and removing the ego-identity are two different things.

Also, could you explain your position about the ego being an evolutionary extension of reality? I've never heard that idea before.

yes, certainly, although it is a hard concept to grasp.

i suggest that the psyche naturally forms the ego-identity into various shapes and forms.  a healthy psyche will manufacture a healthy ego-identity, whereas an unhealthy psyche will manufacture an unhealthy ego-identity.

the shape and form of the astral body reflects the shape and form of the ego-identity, whether for good or for bad.  the shape and form of the astral body (as firstly representing the shape and form of the ego-identity) may be either regenerate or degenerate in appearance (or commonly somewhere inbetween regeneration or degeneration).  a regenerate astral form will commonly resemble the appearance of angels with an aura of white light, whereas a degenerate astral form will commonly resemble the appearance of demons with a darkened aura.  (an intermixed form will appear somewhere inbetween.)  the shape and form of the astral body is modeled after the shape and form of the ego-identity.

regarding evolution/devolution, the shape and form of the astral body reflects the next evolutionary stage of the individual in question, although there may be fluctuation in the appearance of the astral body for a time.  eventually, sometime in the afterlife, this astral form will permanently solidify, thereby becoming resistant to changes of shape and form.  at the occurence of the solidification of the astral form (wherein fluctuations in appearance cease to occur), it (the astral form) will become locked into the individual's next evolutionary/devolutionary stage as originally reflective of the ego-identity at that point.  the astral body will permanently be locked into a regenerate angelic appearance or a degenerate demonic appearance, insofar as bipedal angels, humans and demons constitute a single interrelated macro-species.

I can only try to imagine the cacophony and clatter of thoughts from the millions of people all around us with very sick minds and depraved thoughts. So we have suppressed this sense here in the earthly realm, we would simply go psychotic without this mind shield

Alan

it's hard enough to enter into various unmoderated debate forums with all of those crazy debaters without becoming psychotic, lolol, much less to suffer from telepathic contact with those people.

I'm going to try and fast. Does anyone recommend a specific length of time to fast for? is it too short just say 1 or 2 days without food and drink or does it have to in general be at least 3 days? or 4? or more or what? pls someone give me an idea. TY.

here is a general fasting schedule for a beginner due to health safety.  the key to developing discipline is by taking it gradually.  if you feel that a particular week's practice is too difficult for you, then simply repeat the practice of the previous lighter week.  you may even extend this 12 week schedule to 24 to 48 weeks if you like, repeating each week for 2 to 4 times before advancing to the next week.

if you feel excessively ill (with sore throat, headache, earache, stomach cramping, dizziness, etc.), then cease the fast, and give yourself at least 3 or 4 days to restore your body before resuming again with a lighter session.  and most importantly, first consult a doctor if you have any medical conditions, insofar as fasting may amplify any medical conditions.  it's much like beginning an exercise program.  it's only healthy if you do it properly, and if you go too hard too quickly, then it will feel too strenuous (because the body hasn't yet adapted).

week 1: fast for 1 day, skipping 1 meal but eating 2 meals

week 2: fast for 1 day, skipping 2 meals but eating 1 meal

week 3: fast for 1 day, skipping 3 meals

week 4: fast for 2 days, skipping 4 meals but eating 2 meals

week 5: fast for 2 days, skipping 5 meals but eating 1 meal

week 6: fast for 2 days, skipping 6 meals

week 7: fast for 3 days, skipping 7 meals but eating 2 meals

week 8: fast for 3 days, skipping 8 meals but eating 1 meal

week 9: fast for 3 days, skipping 9 meals

week 10: fast for 4 days, skipping 10 meals but eating 2 meals

week 11: fast for 4 days, skipping 11 meals but eating 1 meal

week 12: fast for 4 days, skipping 12 meals

again, if any week is too strenuous, then simply repeat the previous week 2 or 3 times before advancing.  it's okay to extend this out to 36 or 48 weeks if needed.

I would define "self" in that sense as the ego, which isn't real, except to itself.

i've encountered this argument before and i respect your position, although i disagree with certain vital aspects of it.

i suggest that the ego identity is indeed an illusion, but illusions are nonetheless real and exist with concise purpose as evolutionary extensions of reality.  illusions are inherently holy, serving as evolutionary catalysts, without which evolution cannot exist.  the illusory ego-identity is inherently holy as an evolutionary catalyst.

we all need a strong, healthy ego to become the best that we can be.  to remove the psyche's projection of the ego-identity is to invite mental illness.

Alright some of you may not have heard of Etheric Projection at all and still have "Astral" Projected when in fact you have only "Etheric" Projected.

how precisely are you differentiating the 'astral' and the 'etheric' from one another?  and where are you getting your definitions for each?  aren't we just redefining words here?

i often prefer just using the term 'energy body'.

The manifestations of those two orientations are what give us the concept of nobility - for instance a selfless person like Mother Teresa is usually considered more noble than a greedy corporate executive.

you present one perspective concerning the definition of 'nobility', but i suggest that there are many others.  not to be disrespectful, but i personally consider the 'service to others' definition of nobility to be a bit fallacious, insofar as i don't necessarily believe that 'charity' is altogether altruistic.

in this context, i might interpret the 'charity' of mother teresa to be ultimately self-serving.  in other words, many people are 'charitable' simply to make themselves feel good by appeasing their own sense of guilt.  a person who is altruistically 'charitable' is one who helps others, even though it doesn't make them feel good or noble.  the selfishness of a person is evidenced when they fail at an act of 'charity' and yet still feel good about having 'good intentions' afterwards.

Ultimately though, nobility is exactly that, a concept.

and there are different interpretations of what constitutes 'nobility'.  i suggest that 'feeling noble' and 'being noble' are two different things entirely.  'noble intent' doesn't necessarily constitute altruistic nobility.

When I think of "service to others", the heart and intentions of a person are what really matter.

i generally view the intentions of the heart as being irrelevant, unless one is ultimately concerned about 'self-service' to one's own soulish character.  i interpret this perspective as being selfish.  'service to self' at it's core.  i believe that it's more practical for the recipient of 'charity' to be effectively helped by a selfish person who hates giving, as opposed to encountering a person who doesn't have the power to help but has 'good intentions'.

for example, if a patient requires brain surgery, it's better to receive the operation from a selfish money-hungry surgeon who is highly skilled, versus a poorly-skilled selfless surgeon who has 'good intentions'.  in this case, intentions become irrelevant.  the effectual exercise of power is what counts.

It's the choice to "love for the sake of love".

this can often disguise 'loving for the sake of being loved'.

This would be seen as more noble than any other path that is apparent in this world because it goes against the tide of the times. In Truth, however, it's the only reasonable choice.

i suggest that a tide of the times is socialist welfare.

Is it more noble to keep your sanity while living with the insane than to fall into depravity yourself when you know you could be helping to bring them to sanity?

this likely depends.  if a person goes insane for the sake of 'charity', what help can they practically be to others?  it may seem altruistic to 'go insane' in the name of 'love', but what practical 'charity' is performed for others?  how are others practically helped by such psychological martyrdom?

for example, a friend of mine went insane (becoming clinically mentally ill) in the name of altruistic love for a woman, but neither of them were effectually benefited by his psychological lapse.  yet he would commonly boast what a good person he was for loving her so sacrificially that he would even give up his sanity for her.  it had no benificial effect on her in the end, and probably just served to inflate her own ego with the evidence that she just treated him all the worse for it.  his psychological martyrdom was simply an expression of a typical abuse victim mentality.  she merely used him financially and psychologically, with her own abuse tendencies simply becoming reinforced.  no good for either of them.

If you were to pay off your neighbor's mortgage with the intention of being seen as good, is that really "service to others"?

lolol, actually, i think that i'd simply appear rather foolish if i payed off somebody else's mortgage and saw my own home go into a state of foreclosure as a result.

If you'll recall near the end of the parable the prodigal son wanted to actually go to work for his father.

because his stomach became hungry and he needed food.  the desire to eat food is inherently self-serving.  a completely selfless person will refrain from eating food altogether, because eating food helps oneself.  therefore, people who eat food throughout the weeks and years are not that noble, because eating food is 'service to self'.  and we need to get past 'service to self' by not eating food anymore.  (i'm making a rediculously extreme argument, but do you see my point?  starving oneself to the point of death doesn't necessarily reflect nobility.)

Also, I think that the other son by asking "what about me" wasn't necessarily being selfish, but was rather asking a very necessary question for the sake of the parable itself, because if the question wasn't asked then the father couldn't have given an answer, and no lesson could be drawn from the story.

did the other son know that he was merely a character in a parable?  did the father tell him that he was merely an actor in a parable?

I don't no anything about astral projection but i am very much interested in this topic. Pleases, if anyone could teach how to begin in practicing astral projection. please... help.... i really need guidance to learn.

you may have to do some personal research on the subject.

one book that has helped me is: 'the projection of the astral body' by sylvan muldoon.

Pretty sure I did not dream 'em up. Like I said people I know who are sensitive to such things can see them and accurately describe 'em. ^^

it seemed like you were suggesting that you created them.  i encounter entities myself, but that doesn't mean that i'm creating life.

i was wondering if anyone knows what are the possible consequences for entering someones dream?
I'm not sure if I should do it again because I read somewhere that I can mess someone up by entering their dreams. BTW I was not dreaming with someone else, I was in control of the dream itself i had entered.

your presence in another's dream will likely influence them for good, bad or a mixture of the two.  the astral planes are sometimes called 'dreamscapes'.  the astral (dreamscape) dimensions are holographic-like dream projections of telepathically-united groups, sometimes referred to as 'group-souls'.  the projected dream holograms of astral entities who are in close proximity together merge together to form astral (dreamscape) dimensions, according to higher or lower frequencies along which these beings operate.

technically, you commonly enter into the dreamscapes (or dreams) which are manufactured by deceased people and other spirits virtually every night that you dream.  while projecting into these 'dreamscapes', which are manufactured by these entities, you interact with them there during each deep sleep period, but you usually forget about these interactions afterwards.  when you pass into the afterlife, or if you should gain full astral consciousness in this life, you will then remember these previous interactions fully, thereby recounting all of the things that you've already learned upon the astral planes but have only forgotten while awake here in your physical body.

The parable of the prodigal son. One can also think of this in terms of the "service to self" and "service to others" orientations to life and how a soul must choose between them in every moment.

why might one regard either of these ('service to self' or 'service to others') to be more noble than the other?

for example, is it more noble for me to pay the mortgage of my next door neighbor versus my own, when i can only pay one mortgage at a time?

also, i'm not quite sure how the parable of the prodigal son ties into 'service to others'.  both sons in the parable seem quite selfish throughout the entire story, even if they believe themselves to be serving others.

Is one any less noble if one chooses the right path only after discovering where all the wrong paths lead?

not if one refrains from morality judgments on the matter.  nobility would be moot.

I've never had the belief that I can't do it, so it hasn't happened to me, but I suspect that if I believed that I needed to do A or B or C to project, it would probably hinder my efforts.
One of the things that I've learned is that you can use belief to help project, or hinder.  You can use self hypnosis, or programming to do it.
So it follows, that if you truly believe you can only project by not eating something (or anything), or any number of prerequisites,  that is going to be true for you.

it might ultimately be more accurate for us to suggest that all people astral project, but simply aren't conscious of it.  even the people who claim that they don't astral project, actually do it quite regularly (similar to dreaming at night), but aren't astrally sensitive enough to realize that it's happening.  either they forget their astral projections (like forgetting dreams at night) and/or they fail to recognize that they astral projected in the first place (as with many floating/flying dreams).

the deprivation methods (such as food, sleep, sight and sound deprivation) are merely tools to realign the neural network of the brain to become more consciously sensitive to finer frequency dimensions.  the deprivation methods are geared towards physically altering brain structure and efficiency in much the same way that bodily muscles can become physically more developed.  these methods exercise the brain in much the same way that a muscle can be exercised in the gym, and therefore these methods are practical for everyone in this context, although strategic knowledge is mandatory to make these methods be effective.

the deprivation methods which i espouse are not merely personal creations of mine which only work for me, but they are ancient eastern disciplines that were practiced by ancient eastern mystics in the context of supernatural manifestation and experience.  modern westerners have simply become blinded to the practice of these methods due to the modern western societal veil placed upon people's senses.

it's nice and all for everyone to offer their various opinions, but the ancient mystics knew best.  some of us have chosen to follow in their footsteps.

can you provide a specific example for the sake of context?

i offer these items from personal experience, but they're not meant to be taken as infallible doctrine by any means:

whatever temperature is the most pleasurable will relax your body the most, whether hot or cold.  during a hot summer, an air conditioner might be preferred if it makes you feel the most pleasurable.  during a cold winter, a heater and/or blanket may be more suitable, if indeed it makes you more pleasurable and therefore more relaxed.

one helpful method that i've used is heating the lower half of my body with an electric blanket, while simultaneously cooling the upper half of my body with an air conditioner.  it seems to do something with the blood flow, generating a lot of inner physical activity during the sleep state.  thus the body becomes rather alert, even though it's asleep.

in the end, do whatever makes you feel the most pleasurable in regards to temperature, insofar as this will relax your heart rate more optimally, so as to induce the deepest possible sleep state.

with all of this said, this still may only be effective after some degree of sleep deprivation and/or fasting.  it's a bit of a trick to get oneself into a lucid trance state, and may take years of regular training to induce anything beyond a projection which lasts only a few seconds.

sensory deprivation (of sight and sound) will put you into a potentially deeper state of trance and/or sleep.  environmental sights and sounds may merely wake you up unless you've been rather sleep-deprived.

ultimately, these suggestions will only apply 90% of the time, and reverse conditions may actually apply in rarer circumstances.  there are multiple complex factors to consider.  the trick is to become mentally alert while physically asleep.

thoughts?  feelings?

• We are at liberty to call the powerful protectors from the afterlife to assist us in coping with our everyday problems, but they will not make decisions for us.

i find that this requires a great deal of sensitivity.