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I dont doubt it in the least.

I didnt take any of your critiques to be hostile, your speaking to a very open artist so Ive heard pretty much everything and I know what is hostile and what is meant as a review.

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These were the ways I perceived things, and I asked for others views on them and actually Rastus made me realize something that didnt occur to me.
Though seemingly positive attributes can be outwardly affecting, this does not mean they are overall a good thing, especially for the individual.

I agree with you both on different levels. I am just trying to get different points of views, because I'd like to figure out how to become a healthy individual and spirit.

I dont think I am trying to rationalize being "good" when I am aware of the "bad" i have wrought upon myself, though of course we all hope for the best for ourselves and seek insight from others.

The only other thing I have to say is that I am aware of myself, my actions and the environments role upon me enough that I take the initiative to better myself. Mainly what rastus said, taking time for myself. In fact I just returned from a month of a "vacation" you could say where the majority was taken place in the mountains coming to terms with many things in life. It was beautiful, serene, I bathed in rivers and waterfalls and relaxed in hotsprings with a good friend.
I do have yet to get a good reading, let alone any reading.

Thank you for your responses though.

Dreaming lucidly you can make happen, as often as you want. The whole reoccuring wake dream though would probably be more difficult to put into affect, though Im sure they usually have meaning behind them and that it is possible.

There are plenty of people here who know how to lucid dream, I'm sure someone has an idea of how we can trick our minds into fake waking while we dream.

This use to happen to me, but only twice, at least that I can remember. It scared the hell out of me, but it also gave me an elevated feeling, like I was high or had been breathing at a very high altitude.

I worked in alaska on a boat being a deckhand. It was hard work, mainly because I wasnt supposed to be a deckhand and after the original two who were, both quit and were fired, my boss and other workers treated me like I was the last resort and thus the season would be horrible because of it.
So through the entire I summer I put up with this. I worked quietly and allowed them to make fun of me when I made mistakes usually made because of someone elses idiocy.
One day I went down to the boat before anyone else. It was about five in the morning.

I was washing the boat off, and the morning was cold and gloomy, when I noticed I had accidentally sprayed a moth. Its wings were wet and it was waiting to die just twitching. For some reason I picked it up and placed it underneath the large tackle box out of the way. Nobody would be able to see it unless they crouched and looked under.
The day went by as usual, me helping our custmers pull in hundred pound halibut and getting yelled at when I directed the boat in the wrong direction. Finally the day ended and we headed back. It was about six in the evening and the sun would still be out until one in the morning.
After the customers and the boat captain(the owner of the fishing lodge) left and I was cleaning the boat I decided to look underneath the box. The moth was there, completely dry and hanging out. SOmehow it had avoided getting wet at all from the entire day and the sun had dried it out. It let me pick it up and I walked up the boardwalk to the top. I looked at it for awhile and then put my hand out and it flew away.
It was a beautiful moth, pure white. It looked like a snowflake with wings flying off. I watched it for awhile then went back to work.

As I said I'm not sure I would call it deja-vu. I only do so because its a reoccuring experience to me being that I dream it, then I live it.
I don't know if I would call it synchronicity either though, but I have considered the possibility that it is perhaps a signpost to be paying attention better. After the "deja-vu" has gone or finished, I have an incredible feeling of clarity and calm that washes over me. I tend not to think about those feelings too hard, but for some reason I really enjoy the feeling, as though something is happening that shouldnt be or is a greater thing than conventional awareness of the world. I am usually completely aware afterwards and in fact become thoughtful on an almost existentialist plain.
During the occurance though, as I said I feel almost lost in a trance like state. There is always a part of me that knows this is happening and realizes that I am playing out a dream in waking life and I attempt to break away from the method of action within but then realize that whatever I have done in the dream, I do in waking life. Quite a paradox really. I would say its frustrating, but I really enjoy it.
The length of time between has ranged.
The very first I actually remember vividly and has been basically the jumping point of these occurances. When I was around the age of six I had a dream, very vivid and clear to me. It didnt even connect that I had this dream though until years later when I was about nine or ten and the dream became the waking moment. I felt it and it was different than anything I had felt. Being that young as well confused me.
After that, as I said, they ranged. Ive had dreams play out in waking life from the next day to even years later.
The event though has been more frequent and I will take the advice and attempt to focus even more so on the surrounding environments and moments in my life.
Ill reflect more. What else I can do is up in the air, except to wait if it means anything.

thank you though, all of you.

Nay
I apologize for reincurring the topics of which you would like us to stray from. I just posted and didnt realize you did at the same time so I did not read it until after the fact.

Lets not forget that a thread of similar subject could easily be created again. There are plenty of reasons why its gone, and I kind of like the fact if not for the reason that certain threads can build a pull of which more people will gravitate towards that hazes interest in other posts and topics.
Not to mention there is no reason whatsoever that we need a thread for Oazaki to constantly be pumping his manipulative resources into over and over again, or for any of us to constantly be reviewing him.

We can always make our own predictions, we are intelligent enough people to do so, and personally I believe in this age more have the abilities in which to predict.

I'm sure to we'll be finding out soon if Oazaki can heal and kill us or whatever.

yeah. me. heh.


sooo...I had one with me struggling with a coconut, but it wont upload that pic for some reason. Prob cause its a bit.

ah, the urantia book. One of the most entertaining and complex books I have ever known.
What with super and grand universes and so forth.

Curious, has anyone been able to read through the entire book?

though currently I won't be able to afford the $10, I do believe it is worth it on the basis that the work put into this site and community deserves help from those who participate, and with subscribers it will be easier to mediate the threads rather than having thousands of posts each week to get through.

SOme time in the near future if this does go through, I would be happy to spend a menial $10 a year, thats just a little more than .83 cents a month.

Is there any way to get a written/typed transcript of the interview?

Heres something. We are being told now by many different sources that the ozone layer is in fact repairing itself.

Ask yourself if these energetic properties deal in certain aspects of our world, such as "The Ozone Layer" or "Magnetic Poles Shifting" or a "Telecommunication Boom."
Everything would have to relate to such a topic for energies, and those that work to produce effect both visible and/ or not visible, are in essence constant and varying.

For instance I could tell you that paroxysm could be controlled or in a state of flux in some part of the world because of a small issue of some type of energy expended consciously or not by a single or mass of individuals.
I could continue this train of thought and tell you that because of that small expenditure of energy that led to such violence, a war will break out, and because of that war, more energies will be released in many different degrees of change and so on leading onto the band of infinite cycle.

A timeframe for general events resulting from gigantic energetic proportions is like taking a long roadtrip and without looking at a map asking which towns and cities you will get to along the journey.

I dont think anyone specifically can give you a perfect timeframe for inclusive information regarding said subject, but specify and you may be surprised with how much information comes flooding in.

...sorry, elves vs. trolls...

I apologize, though I feel your "thesis" is very well structured and the topic has gained a bit of substance in its continuing growth, I feel much of what you are saying is rather overly-complex. I have actually had to reread a few of the posts in this thread just to follow along.

Let me see if I can get this right through simplification.

What is being spoken of when discussed on the topic of "Demon War" is basically as was said a few times already, the externalization of internal conflict on a massive scale, and that it is war itself that motivates evolution.

That through our individual struggles with the self; good, bad and neutral (If neutrality can exist simultaniously along with both aspects of itself), the growth of the person mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually could be exponential.

That if the multitude work together in order to analyze and understand the scope of the conflict, growth/change/evolution would sweep the masses on a much larger and swifter scale.

is this the basic understanding I have of the topic at hand?

I believe many of your examples and metaphors to be used in a rather light-hearted manner, and though I think on one hand something of an example such as elves vs. dwarves or beavis and butthead and even the matrix at times can be easily understandable for many, it is also stretched away from the importance of what you seem to be trying to say. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy what you are discussing and find your awareness of the subject to be better fitted than others who attempt similar topics.

I feel you need more references in order to demonstrate similar systems of thought and action through others of like-minded ideas.

I feel you need to develop certain areas of discussion not only more readily for the lamen, but more in depth as well, centering each sub-topic on the main subject and refering back as much as possible to that subject when on other tangents.

dont get me wrong, I find your discussion interesting and in fact would enjoy the continuation of it, I think that you personally would benefit more by way of response and reaction by expanding the idea and working with it nose-to-stone.
There are many factors (as I am sure you are well aware)that have not been illuminated as much as I personally think they should be. Though that is not an insist upon the fact, I just think you could do well to do so.
such as the human nature factor that was developed only slightly during this thread, being that war, in exploring other strands of its concept, is ingrained through "Survival" issues and perhaps even encoded within all of us in order to survive and evolve. That without those unhealthy chakra points centered within people, there are no healthy chakra points. One must counter-balance the other.
This subject of course could be cycled over and over again lifting on many different levels and on and on.

These are just ideas I am throwing out, if you are interested in expanding on your subjects and would like help at all, let me know, or even others on this forum as there are many people here who are highly intelligent.

Out of curiousity, is there any intent in your thread to put action into the topic itself, such as testing/ experimenting with the idea or perhaps even a motivated goal surrounding the idea of quickening the evolution?

I apologize Naiad780, but why would you believe that to be the answer plain and simple?
Regardless if someone gives you an explanation of something that is the definitive replica of what you yourself experience, you should continue to question what it is you experience or have experienced.

Don't you think you ought to search yourself rather than pull the truth from someones literature, such as so many do from another book we all know?
Even those whose ideals and beliefs study a parallel line along our own life beliefs, or that we have great respect for, should be listened to as lesson only and not conclusion.

My opinion is that you should include this knowledge and apply it if you can, but do not take it as "The word" of what is.

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lol!

The prose you have left with us is an unattended inspiration. It is the insight you speak of. I appreciate with all my being for I can understand personally much of what was said.
Your telling was a beautiful omage to your father, even if it was not a fully intended tribute.
With so many here lost among wordplay and manipulated focus it is difficult to deem who has a thicker coat of honesty than another.
Your words though have left me with a better understanding and need for what settles in my own future.

It is not how we have lived for ourselves, but how in our search for ourselves we give another dimension of perception to those around us lovingly and with as little a facade of undertone as possible, for it is difficult to divide us from the nature of our species.

I am quite piqued of curiosity to read your premise in support of "He who is least selfish, is MOST selfish," for that is a possibility that I have not considered.

I suppose living in detail is as though living imprisoned.

founder, I would like to know one thing.
I have had my own internal struggle with things I thought I knew but found them to be wrong.
I am not labeling this as BS, its your belief, but how would you deal with it if none of this happens?

If the time for this war and others people believe in come and go and life is still life, how would you take it?

lol!

just curious, everyone always has a sign for something...

curious. Where did you read that?

I would be highly motivated to find out for myself, checking the news and media for terrorist alerts and what alert they are at, and checking astronomical events from different sources to find out whether or not that is true, and even if true, coincidence?

that is an interesting notion though.

(nods)

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there are a few sites blackbox that help translate your birthdate into the mayan information, daysigns, numbers and meaning.
Search for the dreamspell calender.
I translated mine some time ago, so the specific site I used then I cannot remember.


I want to thank you as well. You provided a lot of information that I had been searching for. It is more appreciated than you might realize, for it has been subject that has been afflicting me for some time, and though I have asked for help from different sources, you are the only one who really helped by explaining in your own words and opinion what you think.
I will integrate it all into my thinking process and progress research into the topics, for even that which I want to put belief in, I cannot put 100% stock into. It just becomes part of how I act, react, and interact with the world around me as I continue my search.
thank you again.


I have to agree that all words have meaning behind them, and it is intent that gives that meaning substance.
For instance, I have a friend who wears a shirt that states, "Kill Yourself," and people ask him why he would wear a shirt like that.
A good explanation he gives is that it is not unlike the desensitization of people with violence and television. One becomes so use to the words or statements that they lose there meaning, but that is where I disagree. They dont lose their meaning, just the substance behind the meaning.
Therefore more use of words, and people become indifferent to them, but it wont take away from the meaning.

I think that there is truth to programing yourself as well. If one becomes interested in something, the brain will automatically search for it, but I definately don't think that this is the only reason for many people seeing 11:11 or even other things as well.
For instance, my brain did not search out 1111 on my flight returning from mexico where my flight # was 1111, the gate I passed revealed 11 shown twice on both sides of the number box, passing another flight # 1111 on my way to customs and getting to my final departure gate at 11:11 in the morning. Perhaps the latter my mind was programmed for, but it could not have programmed the environment around me, nor the events afterwards.

such as everything in life, anything has affect up to a certain point before something else takes over.

Blackbox, thank you for the information.
I do agree though, there isnt a site out there on the net that either depicts anything wholly within its subject, or completely accurately. Thus is a single faulted aspect of communications.
When so many people have access so readily to everyones ideas, and constructs of belief, it is hard to sort out truth and distinguish a full common idea.

I will look at those sites. I find it interesting that although I have been subject to certain aspects of all that information, I didnt find these sections of knowledge correlating until now.
For instance some years ago I was referred to as an indigo child. I had no idea what that meant and although I researched minimally, I did not really find all the source of information I have just come across now.
To me that is odd, but not surprising.
As you have mentioned in your metaphor for sailing, it seems that even when we look forward, we can only look so far until we reach the crest of a wave, before we see the total or rest of what is before us.

I am curious as to what you think though. I had been exposed to all this for quite a few years now, and yet recently I came across a woman who seemed a part of me, and I for some reason was not sexually attracted to her the way I have been with others. I was attracted to her personality and though she is beautiful, had no intimate thoughts. This is a curiosity for me because I am a very sexual being, but I was able to keep a clear awareness around her and when we met we found many of our ideas coincided.
Then only days before I left for Mexico, we found that our Mayan numbers were both 11.

This freaked us both out, because obviously, we both have had a long time in the knowledge of the numbers and some meaning behind them.
After that so many things fell into place, and certain aspects of myself I was able to relay to her that I have never been able to relay to any other.

I left for mexico and everything pushed against me, but the moment I gave in and returned home, the number 1111 apeared everywhere, and even her name was everywhere.
There was even an street name that included her name plus home.
THis happened very quickly, and it truly leads me to think we are meant to be together.
I am curious if you know anything about lightworkers who are specifically drawn to each other.
Your thoughts?

Blackbox, I am very interested as to where the source of that information comes from.
I have never heard of the correlation between those corresponding digits used as such and it intrigues me.
Also who made that quote used?

This is funny topic. I have been discussing it in other forums on the net for some time.

The legislation for the draft will most likely not pass, as a high number of those first siding with it, have now opposed it.
It doesnt matter though, even if it doesnt pass by then, if the military still needs more people other pressures will be exerted to pass a different legislation.
I find it funny though that the government in trying this is attempting to trap its citizens by not allowing anybody into canada, those running to the mountains for freedom will be extradited (spelling wrong?), and those in the educational system will neither have the option of staying out either.

Our forces are being stretched very thin, and many of the governments officials are stressing.
This is why military forces are being pulled out from other countries to head to iraq and why the tour of duty for many are now being extended.

So it sounds like everyone once again disagrees with each on how this should be played out and how it will affect everyone.

here are my opinions.

one; michael moore actually does know what he is talking about, at least in his own point of view. His studies are more than research but opinion and interviews, and in fact probably has better sources of information regarding any of these topic than anyone on these boards.

two; I think all people including us "Young" people should have a choice as to whether we join a military force or not. It should not be up to a government to choose who fights for them. It would be for them, not for the country mind you.
The draft use to only be a final choice if chaos insued, but now is being used to protect the ideals of an american standard in democracy and living.

A government instituting this is a police state and should be taken from power.
The decleration of independance states clearly that if a majority of people believe their government to be doing wrong, they have a choice to come together and fully institue a new government. I for one believe that without the power of choice, a revolution will take place in many states.

I dont care how old one is, if they believe the draft to be a good thing, they are lost to those young people who will have to suffer for them.
Yes thats right, I dont think the older citizens have a right to tell its young people to go die for them, or to force them into their military.

I would rather die than fight for america. I would not fight for any country, anywhere.
This is my planet, and I am not an American, I am a human being.
I have the choice to live or die. So do you.

You can give me statistics all you want, tell me what would help the economy whereever or why terrorists do what they do. You can throw numbers in my face and how we can help our country the most. There is nothing that would change my mind on this.
It has nothing to do with my youth, because I may not have been around as long as many others, but this does not mean intelligence comes from age. Neither wisdom. Experience only means so much without applying it to your life.

I would put my life on the line for;
My family
my friends
any stranger
the entire planet

not a countries ideals

whoo!
that was exhausting.
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