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dont like it dont buy it, its the beauty of a free market.   Besides, 95% of these spiritual items are just rip offs anyway and anyone who knows anything about real spirituality knows to stay away.  Case in point "Magic potions".  There are tons of magical potions/scrolls/dolls etc on the net that are just plain rip offs.  You send them $29.95 for a love potion they dye some water red and put it into a 30 cent vial and ship it to you.  Get over it, its how everything in this world works, there is always someone looking to gain from your stupidity or dire need or what have you.

Dear God girl!!!  I would be very careful.  What an amazing experience to be having though!  Its like the movies only better!  I would probably atleast tell the local authorities what you think is happening so if it DOES happen (hopefully not) you can atleast say I told you so because they probably wont believe you.  Then I would recommend to Anne the services of a private detective to watch Bob closely.  

A note of caution with the cops though, you go into too much detail and they will think your involved most likely even though you arent.  Even with the growing popularity of psychic detective shows on TV most people will probably still think your a nut and know this stuff from first hand experience or involvement.

Sounds like a remote eye experience, alot like clairvoyance/remote viewing but different....  I have had a few of those and they are always awesome!

WHAT??? what movie??

Ive had this happen before.  Probably 9 or 10 times.  Its no big deal.  It could be your subconscious trying to stop you or your tuning into something like a TV show or radio show or who knows what.  Its nothing though ultimately.  Keep going.

Yeah I have been going over the past few months trying to nail down why my OBEs have stopped coming so frequently and why my dreams are only just picking back up.  I havent been keeping a journal!!!  :redface:   All my most vivid and amazing experiences come after a period of me keeping track of everything and writing it all down.  Its funny because I have a journal I have been using since day one of my OBE's at my bed side and im just too lazy to write them down.  Time to get started again I think!

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I have been experiencing for the past few years something similar to what you are talking about.  Sort of a collection of all my past experiences and moments in my life when I was OBE'ing before I even knew  it existed.  Back when I was about 9 I had an OBE about a UFO outside my window.  I woke up and rushed downstairs and drew it and showed it to my parents and told them I saw it outside my room.  They just stared at me and could see I wasnt lying.  At the time I thought it really WAS a UFO but recently I experienced something like an epiphany where I was laying in bed meditating and that experience popped into my head.  I basically relived it and suddenly realized that it was an RTZ projection.  I also have recalled about 3 dreams I remember in the past that scream OBE but I wasnt aware of it.  Its a learning process that will continue for me and hopefully for you.

I agree leyla.  Before I began to AP and meditate and just generally look for my own answers I was obsessed with the occult, magick, all that jazz.  I spent hours on the internet printing out "powerful ancient documents" and doing my best to study them as well as researching the work of conjurors like Solomon and people like Crowley and so on.  I find there works interesting to say the least now, but at the time it was like I had entered into this magical world where no one else was allowed and had unlocked ancient powers.  What did I get from those hours of research and experimentation?  Nothing.  

I find that list of requirements ridiculous.  If I entered any part of the astral and requested to meet with that Mr. Kronzonozosoon guy I could be talking to him at the drop of a hat.  Big deal.  He would be most likely a figment of my imagination, a thought form, what have you.  How would this be different from anyone else who pursued him???  It wouldnt.  So all this stuff does really is give me a headache and make me ask "Why??? For the love of god WHY?"  It just makes thing so complicated.

In closing, I find this kind of thing fun to read and think of how the person who wrote it came to this conclusion, what they experienced and how it can help me out, but in the end its basically just poetry as far as I'm concerned.  One giant metaphor not to be taken literally.

Well done!  Sounds like a very typical RTZ OBE.  My new official reaction to RTZ OBEs in the first few seconds is "RUN FROM YOUR BODY NOW!!!!!"     Next time try to get as far from your body as you can and you wont get sucked back in so fast.  They key in the RTZ is to keep moving and talk to yourself out loud the WHOLE TIME.  This keeps you focused on what is around you and on the experience and prolongs your projection.  Keep up the good work!  I am sure more OBE's are just around the corner.

Rock on!  Sounds about as strange as most of my dreams lately!     Way to turn it into an OBE!  It always warms my heart to see others have their first obe's.  It brings back memories and gets my mind thinking on the OBE path like it used to, which usually results in more OBEs for me!  

RAISE THE M.F.in' ROOF YO!

 lol no thank god

oh god!!!     That reminds me of a quote a me and a friend of mine always say "When danny devito gets angry people die!"

hahaha yeah I guess so!     Nailed the bastard right in the ribs.  Some day when I win the lottery I will make a movie about my projections and this will be the start of the movie!!!  

Yeah, at the time it was insanely scary and disturbing but when I fully awoke from the whole experience and shook it all off I laughed so hard!!!  I can still remember exactly the last couple seconds as I waded through the warm water and peered around the corner and saw the little devil, green shirt, light green pants, green pointy hat, and then kicking him, that was awesome hehe.

Its been so long since I have had a unique scary experience like this that it just totally mentally killed me.  I do have experiences on a regular basis of cold dead invisible hands on me or maybe hearing something as I wake up but this was just nuts!!!     Either it was just something stupid like a hallucination or it was my old dead cat Biff.  I did lay in bed after it happened and try to tune into the presence, if there was one, in the room and I did get some really menacing feedback like someone was almost face to face with me but they where invisible or something but after a bit it faded and figured it was just my fear and I was back to sleep....  It was just so frickin nuts I had to share.  It did feel like a cats mouth though, I was convinced one of my parents cats had made its way into my room and been shut in my room during the night by me, I sleep on a futon and there is a little tunnel like thing under it from where the bed meets the wall, my parents cat Dot loves to sleep under it regardless of how much I hate it!    ( I am allergic).

It was a double whammy in the sense that I was scared senseless at first simply by how scary the initial feeling was but then to search the obvious places convinced of the presence of my parents cat and only to find the room empty was like getting punched right in the eye!  I remember myself starting to breath really hard at that point when I checked under bed and nothing was there, probably the first time I have ever been scared to death by there being NOTHING under my bed!     All well, we live and learn.

I was laying in bed last night and I was drifting off to sleep and suddenly I heard a scraping sound by my head.  One of my hands was over the top edge of my bed and I felt something bump against my fingers and then I felt teeth and a tongue on my finger!  :aargh:   I jumped up so fast and turned on my lights I think I broke a world record.  I checked my room over about a million times but nothing was there and both my parents cats where locked in the basement during the night as usual.  My heart was pounding so fast I thought I was going to have a heart attack.  I cant figure out what happened, I am assuming it was some kind of hallucination on the border of sleep but that was just about the scariest thing that has ever happened to me, I spent the next hour laying in bed exhausted but not able to sleep because I thought whatever it was was going to come back....  

Do you have a specific Lucid Dreaming technique you implement?  For me reaching a Lucid Dreaming OR AP'ing state require the same techniques but the thought of using something different specifically for LD's seems interesting... as a matter of fact I have no idea why that hadnt "truely" occured to me before?  Usually I sort of smash those 2 terms together but finding a way to specifically trigger your subconsious to raise your lucidity during dreams hasnt ever crossed my mind.   :doh:

Enlightenment comes when you realize it doesnt exist.  I cant describe it.  It simply cant be described.  It .... is.  If that doesnt make sense to you I am sorry.   :dont-know:  In a way I guess Ben K. is absolutely right.

In my experience the only places forbidden to you are the places you deem yourself forbidden from, either subconsciously or otherwise.  I could be wrong but thats the impression I get.

Some argue that when you project thats exactly what you do.

I have in the past but I have been slacking on that in the past few months.  I guarantee you that this in no way relates to any dream I have had since I can remember!     I am sure it represents something and I will continue to contemplate that.

I enjoy all input but as you said in the end its all up to what IIIII think!!!     Thanks again.

I agree with lola.  I would think if they COULD destroy things, that would probably be the only thing they couldnt destroy.

Nice explanation Rain.  I havent heard anyone explain it that way before and thats a perfect way to do it as well!  Thanks alot.

The key to overcoming scary OBE's is just to have them a few times and realize they arent that bad, like you said.  I struggled with them for a while and still sort of do but knowing from experience that there really isnt a reason to freak out about it helps alot.

Jalef is 100% correct.  I have had my fun (some would say too much fun) in the past with every drug out there (aside from uppers, never been into those, or anything injectable)  and I have had a few strange OBE like experiences from drug usage.  They tend to be very very strange, completely uncontrollable and basically pointless.  OBE's induced naturally is the way to go.