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i've created a "serious" version of this thread to explain why i started it in the first place.

go here

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_transition_of_the_ages/explanation_of_quot2012_is_so_sillyquot_thread-t32569.0.html;msg268019#msg268019

i did.

"our social lives will morph into using each other without guilt until a spiritual revolution comes along."

that's optimistic of you to expect a spiritual revolution.

but at the end of the day i really don't take life that seriously so i feel like it's great entertainment and i get love for it so it can't be that bad.

it is good fun isn't it.

we live in the most Godless society lacking in any real culture, like a machine of a sort.  zombieland.  our social lives will morph into using each other without guilt until a spiritual revolution comes along.

you have very high hopes for humans.  i don't share your optimism.

but duh, we are horrible horrible excuses for "human beings".

well...

I am not an Aquarius and I shudder at the thought.  Pisces yo.  lol, right.

we have certainly been a very masculine society for some time and we do need to embrace more femininity.  

however i don't think women have taken the power, i think they've turned into men.  

femi-nazi's don't want equality, they want what men have had, they want to rule, they just want to switch sides.

now real feminine energy is brilliant and we need it, we are out of balance as a species, but we need an equal balance of masculinity too.  

you recognize that most people are materialist slobs but you're honestly not acting any better.  just because you're coming at these women from a different angle doesn't make you any better than the guys lifting weights and buying fancy cars.  you're putting yourself on a "spiritual" pedestal, but it's still a pedestal.

get over yourself.  and believe me, i know how awesome you are, i am awesome too, but so is everyone else.

well do you talk to fish or are you calling yourself an Aquarius, either your actual zodiac or a person that expresses the qualities of the characters from Hair?

cleverness is what makes the doctor better than everyone else, so maybe that's all aquaman needs

hey now, i'm the "contradictory for the sake of being contradictory" guy around here.  i am the bigot who's actually very humble and compassionate.  we don't need two.  lol.

and he may indeed be too important for you.

don't really have an opinion on reincarnation per se.  it seems rather idealistic to just assume that our physical lives are just a "grade in school", and a little "rose colored-glasses".  

nevertheless, i read recently that people don't see animals in the here-now (RTZ) because each species has it's own realm kind of thing.  the premise seems a little odd, but it could explain the "once a human, always a human" idea.  maybe our souls are specifically here for the human experience and nothing else?  or maybe we're bound to the realm we were born of kind of thing?  i don't know, just a thought.

thanks, i just made it.

suckers.

I saw this book at the bookstore the other day.

totally not the place for insightful comments. 

we're making fun of 2012 and it's cronies here.

lol.

lol.

you get addicted to IRC real fast.

i hate to say this, but you just gotta go with your gut.  tell your brain to shut up and listen to your heart.

that sounded so new agey, but it's true.

you also have to remember that the more you practice the less intense energy sensations and trance sensations will be.  you're habituating your system to the experience.  we've had this talk about "road signs" before, sensations that you feel that can clue you in to where you are in the process of projection.  it sounds like a good idea but it can be a distraction, especially when you expect those road signs and they don't come.  then you think you're not progressing so you stop, when in actuality you may have been right on the verge.  i would say that ultimately, as you become a skilled projector you probably don't notice much if any sensations besides the actual shift of awareness. 

why don't you try in the morning.

wake yourself up an hour or so early and make your attempt then.

that way the house will be relatively quiet and they'll still expect you to be asleep anyway so they won't bother you and don't even have to know what you're doing.

if all else fails, you can get some earplugs at the drug store to help keep out the noise for an afternoon attempt.  you could also get a sleep mask or bandanna if the light bothers you. 

i know that parents aren't always accepting of these sorts of things, so just say you're taking a nap or something if you have to.

tinnitus.

granted tinnitus is used to describe a disorder, but the disorder is just an intensified version of this ear hiss sound.  so tinnitus works.

I told you this in the chat, but i think you're fine.  A lot of people project fine even though they drink coffee.  Some people even use coffee to help they stay awake when they try to project. 

Though there is always something to be said for a lifestyle choice that you may feel is impeding your way.  If you feel like you need to take it easy on coffee, try not drinking some for a couple weeks and see if it makes a difference.  That's the only way you can really know.

I've been reading a book that suggests having a "Necessity" every time you project.  So something in your life that is important and that you would like to find an answer for in the astral.  For beginners they say to use simple things like sex, food, etc., survival type things.  As you progress you would find more developmental necessities, like a specific aspect of spiritual growth or something.  The idea is that the more you project, the more insightful your become into your own nature and more powerful necessities are identified.

where do you live?

your late night might be our early morning.

hey Angie......oops.   
 
firstly, welcome.

secondly, do you only try at night?  I could never achieve conscious exit at night because I was usually too tired and went into a really deep sleep pretty quick.  i found that when i practiced in the mid to late afternoon i had the most success.  sometime between 2-5pm is good.

What the "big bang" really is is a cop out.  We can't go farther than the singularity at the beginning.  All known science breaks down at the singularity and from our perspective we can't speculate.

Common experience.  Fear and energy surge.  Just keep practicing, it will pass.

if time is "non-existent" in the astral, you could have one experience (the body), then shift back in time and have the other experience (the separated awareness) and meet at the end with both sets of memories.  that would be cool.