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dude.. you should seriously read the books x.x.. you wouldn't have to ask so much if you did, man.

in the first book, sitchin explains that before the annunaki left earth because of their own feuding and problems, they set up kingdoms on earth and taught man how to farm and run civilizations, etc.

the annunaki have the same 'human' qualities as we do. they make mistakes, they cheat on their spouses, there are feuds between their families.. this is why they were eventually called back to nibiru: the planet was on its way back out into the far reaches of our system, and the heirarchy that they had set up for themselves was falling apart. so are they peaceful? it depends on what you mean. they may be more peaceful than we are, but im sure they have the occasional conflicts..

read the books dude! lol.. if you read the first book it would've answered most of your questions []

they'll do whatever they see is in our best interest. like i've said before, overpopulation is a big issue, and we haven't been behaving ourselves, either, what with all of these wars and tragedies, like the 'holy wars', and the holocaust, etc. so i believe not everybody is going to survive their coming.

i don't believe there will be anything we can do. trying to attack them would be completely pointless. they will *not* attack us with spaceships and laser beams, etc., but will either take us out with an artificial asteroid or poisoning of the water (those are the two choices that make most sense to me).. i don't even think we can launch an attack on them. we have enough trouble trying to launch and land a rover on mars. this is a planet beyond mars in an asteroid belt. there will most probably be communication between earth and nibiru before they come. zebrima has already posted an experience that may have been with an annunaki earlier in this post (the original topic, in fact..). so they may giving a spiritually advanced few million people a head's up, at least.

don't worry about it. look forward to it. they're coming to help us. humanity has gotten itself into a mess, and they're aiding us. if they decide that we should slim our population down some, death isn't so bad, either. each person that does will just ascend into the astral, and will later ascend beyond that. so billions of people may be suddenly enlightened, while whoever's left are given responsibility for earth for the next 3600 years or so. things arent going to be so bad.

is that all?? o.o

there have been plenty of photos taken of unknown objects (that cannot be identified as anything because of a lack of information), it's just a matter of identifying them. but this is where the problem is, because astronomers aren't looking for another planet. neptune and pluto were looked for, and were located through lots of astronomical calculations based on how some body beyond uranus was effecting uranus with it's gravitational pull. astronomers did the math, and then pointed their telescopes to where in the sky they thought these planets should be. then after finding several bodies, they studied them to see which ones moved, and then they had their planet. they weren't just blindly searching for planets; space is *much* too vast for that. nibiru will be found eventually, and probably by surprise.

if astronomers start looking for more planets, they'll automatically focus around/beyond pluto (that is where a conflict arises, as an unknown force is still effecting even pluto's orbit, and if you ask me, pluto never solved the problem of something acting on even neptune's orbit. neptune is much too big for little pluto to effect). even if they start noticing strange behavior on saturn and jupiter and the outer planets from nibiru's gravity, they still won't be looking for another planet within the orbits of our known planets most likely. it just wouldn't make sense for them. so don't hold your breath for the planet to be spotted and classified (correctly) by professional astronomers.

i dont know what they use for fuel but they obviously have some great radiation around them.

it's true people today mature faster than they used to, especially mentally o.O.. does that justify things?

well.. you can make what you want out of this info, because i dont know for sure: they're spotted frequently around military bases around the world, and some have been reported to land. beings have been reported coming out of them (grays), and there are circular marks on the ground with high radiation readings, and grass will not grow there (where the crafts supposively landed).

they just fly around overhead for whatever reason o.O.. of course they might be remotely operated, too.. its hard to say what theyre doing for sure.. akashic records []

maybe a little off subject, but..

i might get a ring when im older that says something in norwegian runes []

lol.. the annunaki could so beat the crap out of the grays. the grays are probably more advanced technologically, but get one of those things in a boxing ring []

just watch out for the telekinesis, man o.o

yes, there is a great deal of debris still hanging around nibiru.

tiamat was a word first used by sumerians. if it appears again in history, it was either inspired from the sumerians or else totally unrelated.

the grays.. i can't expand on them that much. they came from the sirius system, or at least i believe so at this point in time. they were the forefathers of the annunaki, and therefore are forefathers of us. they spread their life seed onto nibiru, and nibiru spread it to us. either the annunaki or the grays had a hand in the evolution of life on earth, i believe, because it's just too much of a coincidence that bipedals started evolving after the destruction of dinosaurs, and all this evidence for aliens points to bipedaled aliens.

their homeworld (the grays') was destroyed in war. from what i've read, i take it they aren't an overly friendly race. not being able to find another suitable homeworld, they live as pirates in space, and have been for a good long while. they've been gradually evolving to fit an environment with a very limited amount of gravity (free space), which is a boneless bag of organs. so they're bodies are becoming weaker and weaker though they may be becoming more intelligent. to try and preserve their race, they take dna from earth beings, either human, bovine, pig, or anything close. not all abductions are real, but the hype started somewhere.

funny what you said about the egyptians.. egypt was the second colony established on earth (sumeria 1st, indus valley 3rd). though we still know little of indus valley, what we can read of their religion shows similarities with both sumer and egypt. egypt would later become enki's realm when the annunaki started feuding over territory on earth (this lead to them being brought back home by the leader of nibiru, anu).

the three major pyramids of egypt were built by the annunaki. the others are just poser attempts. there is substantial evidence that the 3 great pyramids were not of egyptian construction, but science refuses to accept this. the 3 main pyramids are the only ones without hieroglyphics. also, *none* of the pyramids were used as tombs. only intrusion burials were performed in any of the pyramids, when later rulers decided they wanted to be buried in the pyramids, and the pyramids were broken into and the pharoahs were laid to rest inside. NONE of the presumed creators of the pyramids were actually buried *inside* of them, but a burial grounds nearby. also, all the step pyramids were originally actual pyramids, but were made primitively, even *after* the main ones were *presumably* built. how would their technology decrease so rapidly? the egyptians themselves never had it. the step pyramids, btw, had clay laid on the blocks to make the triangular shape, while the 3 main ones used limestone which is still in relatively awesome condition today.

the annunaki used the pyramids as guides to sumeria/sinai. there was a large starport in the sinai peninsula, which was eventually nuked in the biblical upheavel of gomorrah (sp?) in which 'evil winds' of 'sulfur and fire' rained down on the ancient people. sounds eerily like a nuke, huh? and then there are those scorched rocks that can't be accounted for, as there are no nearby volcanoes, and the rocks are sedimentary..

the pyramids, when viewed from above or side angles, give a very good idea of which way you are facing. the annunaki used them to guide themselves to the starport, or sumer, depending of course on their destination. the sphinx rests almost exactly on the 30 degree line and points straight west, on the 30 degree line. the indus valley civilization is also almost exactly on the 30 degree line, and with a circle sized circle, you can land both sumerian cities and greek cities on the perimeter of the circle exactly, as well as certain mountain tops. all the angles of the ancient sites and their relativity to one another is freaky.. it's shown on the last few pages of sitchin's second book.

i have to contact this guys in the astral, if possible, before they come. i have to be spared! [] maybe i'll even be allowed to eat food from their home planet, thereby somehow extending my lifespan greatly. the ancients regarded this as the food of the gods; the food that made the 'gods' 'immortal'. the sumerians didnt actually refer to the annunaki as gods, just more spiritually advanced people that guided them.

theres still a lot of connecting i have to do. sitchin tries to stay reasonable, and sticks to his evidence. he doesn't venture into theories about the grays, etc., but they can be easily tied in. i need to do more research for myself. thanks for your interest, though, ft []

the bible's older stories were passed down through the generations by the jews, because they were captured by the egyptians and enslaved, etc., etc. you can't expect exact dates, even to the year. the biblical dates are give or take *at least* few hundred years easily, but they can all fall easily within 3600-year periods, if you give or take the required amount of time.

the ring of fire is mostly the border of the pacific plate. the pacific plate is the tectonic plate under the pacific ocean (and a few small, insignificant places around it, if you want to get technical) that is known to be particularly active with volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

volcanoes and earthquakes are starting to become more active all over the world, but the ring of fire is especially active now. this is because nibiru's gravity is acting on earth's tectonic plates.

zecharia sitchin's the earth chronicles series. it includes the 12th planet (introduction book, expains tons of stuff about the 10th planet and its people), the stairway to heaven, the wars of gods and men, the lost realms, and the cosmic code. he also authored the lost book of enki, genesis revisited, and divine encounters.

start with the 12th planet and read through the rest of the earth chronicles series in order. im on the 3rd book. ive finished the 1st and 2nd but i havent been to the store to buy the 3rd [] i know the gist of it, though. the magic of sitchin is his vast listing of sources and detailed information.

if thats the kind of stuff you want to find, sitchin is the best way to go, i promise.

if there were any aliens coming to earth in the first place, they wouldnt stop because people arent metaphysical! 'oh, most of these guys can't even astral project, or even know what it is for that matter. let's turn around and go back, they won't believe us when they see us!' *that* doesnt make sense.

not knowing metaphysical stuff just makes you ignorant in that subject. it's not a reason to stay away and leave us alone, it's a reason to come and help us out. and overpopulation is a serious problem, too.

its my personal opinion (with a theory behind it that i won't go into here) that the 'grays' are seeking our genetic makeup, our dna. they arent intentionally trying to scare us, and most claimed abductions/etc. are just some kind of metaphysical experience i cant explain. not everyone who's claimed to be abducted has been, but it started somewhere.

sitchin doesnt. there's still tons of information about nibiru and the alien grays that we can't find without the aid of such things as the akashic records. the annunaki never told the sumerians anything about the history of nibiru or its people. not even anything about how they could survive the elliptical orbit. so we can only guess.. until i get astral projection down []

when i get ap'ing down this summer, i'm going to be doing some really in-depth research into this stuff. some research has already been done in the akashic records and posted on a site i visit often. i dont know whether or not its accurate; ill have to check on this myself. but it sounds completely logical. the alien grays were the forefathers of the annunaki but had their home planet destroyed and are living as pirates in space. that story's posted somewhere above.

see the post in the first forum (obe discussion? the first one on the list). theres a topic in there about the coming of nibiru. someone actually had a premonition. from what i've been reading lately, about premonitions and debris entering our atmosphere and the activation of the ring of fire, i'd say nibiru is definitely getting close []

suddenly im really confused.. this topic used to be in one of the first three forums, i remember distinctly. how'd it get here? am i insane? o.o... they were right all along??!

yeah, it is. i stayed up all night at my grandmas house one time with my cousin, just playing that game. there we two computers, and we were seeing who could beat the whole game the fastest. we started using cheats like mad and it was still almost impossible on the last level. its a great game []

the story at the bottom about jesus was just as good []

when i said i agreed with goingslow, i didnt have that statement in mind, beavis. i dont know if goingslow did.. but i didnt.. o.o

"I had a family friend that would goto Zetatalk for kicks and giggles and she reported this schizo story before Sitchin ever wrote his books."

psi, your post was complete bs, almost in its entirety. sorry o.O. sitchin wrote his first book in 1976. i dont think the internet was even public at this point in time. there is no way zetatalk was around. you obviously dont know what youre talking about on that one.

as far as i know, no new planet has been discovered, either. pluto was in 1931.

the theory of universal collapse does not pinpoint 2012, either. it wouldnt be that sudden. 2012 is less than 10 years away. it was take much longer for the universe to collapse. plus, this theory is no longer the leading theory. the leading theory is now that the universe will speed off into oblivion at the speed of light, because dark matter is acting on the universe and pulling the physical apart in all directions *at an ever-increasing speed*. this means that eventually everything will being going at the speed of light in all directions, away from other mass.

nibiru's gravity is already affecting us. the ring of fire around the pacific is becoming more and more active as you read this. the tectonic plates are being pulled on.

they created us and let us live, so i dont think theyre going to wage war on us for control of earth.

i don't really know much about this topic, but from how it sounds, i'll have to agree with goingslow.

awesome! []

the debris ('fireballs') was created and sent ahead of nibiru during the first collision, which created the asteroid belt. there should be *craploads* of that stuff before and after nibiru drifts by. theres a good amount of it still hovering all around the planet. we might be discovering some new comets, too, with 3600 year cycles, if there's anything big enough to count as a major comet.

so if there are any new comet discoveries, and the comets are given something close to a 3600-year period, or no one can tell because of its huge orbit, then *i'll* be freaking out to! this is getting good. []

i have seen just as meaning readings of people living in the future as i have prophecies about everyone dying. i think this supports the theory that not everyone will die from whatever may happen.

on sightings, a medium similar to john edwards read three people at the same time in the same room. she saw too of them as old men, living and working in what she described as underwater chambers.. possibly small underwater cities. she could not, however, see the third person's, or at least that far into that person's future. when i saw this it interested me, because they were all young, healthy people, and were all being read at the same time, looking into the same date in the 2040/2050's. there's always the possibility of an automobile accident, drowning, etc., but for me this helped confirm my belief that only most of the people on earth will die. 1/3 to 2/3 is the figure often offered. it wasn't as much as the 3rd person had no future as it was the underwater installations.

after a catastrophic event, such as a comet/asteroid or contamination of water, underwater installations wouldn't be so far-fetched. ie, in the case of a comet, the land would become soaked and unfertile, there would be mass extinction of animals. we would have to rely on continental plant life and ocean life for our food. we would have to rely on desalinization plants, as well, to extract the salt from ocean water. in case of water contamination, we would also need water-purifying plants.

something tells me he meant 'purpose', beavis.. just a hunch. lol

there were some interesting posts on this subject on another topic, somewhere on this site.. in integral philosophy, maybe?

one of the posts went something like this:

if you acknowledge that we existed before our physical bodies, and that we will exist after death, then we do not originate here but were *sent* or *put* here for something. i believe that we are here to learn from experiences.. i think at least that much is obvious. but i wonder why we need to experience the physical. when are we going to use these experiences? one of the more interesting things i read (im not saying i believe it) is that we are here to learn so that later on we can watch over our own worlds. o.O... an interesting thought. and then you have the idea that we are all pieces of a puzzle.. the ultimate consciousness that all life eventually transcends to after death.

i believe nay was referring to another post.. (see forum)