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LoL but i don't want the chicks, (i think this was a soul decision i did before encarnating -_-)

Sure.... that's what everybody says .

Kirlian photography uses strong electrical currents to take pictures of the aura, but I have not heard about making motion pictures of them. If you can take 24 frames per second, that works well enough.

There are chi machines which radiate out energy. It does not have to be guided by a human mind. This would be perfect for testing purposes, because it is consistent and can produce the same results from one test to another.

I thought that Kirlian photography wasn't necessarily taking pictures of auras. This is the one that you can place your hand onto an slightly electricized plate and take of picture of the way the electricity looks around your hand? I heard that it was actually taking pictures of the naturally occuring electrical fields/signal that the sweat in your hand will produce on contact with electricity.

Was reading a Scientific America, or one of those other scientific magazines, one day and it was talking about entanglement. Said that they managed to get five particles/somethings/whatever-they're-called entangled with 2 pairs and a fifth somehow hooked into the mess. They said it was the minimum needed for error correction (not sure that was it though), and were talking about the possiblilities of using it with computers, since it would allow instant communication between the two pairs because one has the same properties or whatever of the second pair.

Sorry that I can't be any more specific, I read it a couple of months ago. I'll see if it's still in the college library though and will throw you an update.

It's possible that the sensation you were feeling was a result of the SP trying to pull you back under (usually to a lucid dream), and you fall asleep again. It feels scary to be pulled under unless you understand that you'll just fall asleep, feels almost like when they put you under with anesthetics for surgery.

Touching your finger and thumb together can be used to break out of it too, which is way that I get out of them. So try that if you can't get your toes working.

Sorry, used to not giving out spoilers or anything.

I move while in SP, takes a bunch of willpower the first time. It's the way I break myself out of it, by touching my fingers together usually. That rolling out of bed or off the couch is a technique that people use to have an OBE. I haven't managed to do it without snapping out of the paralysis, but that sounds like what you've been doing.

So all you do is roll? Is it the same as just really trying to roll over, or do you trick yourself into thinking that you are rolling?

Yes, I see them all the time, they just aren't apparent always. I don't think that I see those strings or blacker shadows that you are describing. Mine are from the shadows inside of my eyes, if I move my eyes quickly, they will swirl around in there. Gives me something to do if I'm really bored. They're just stuff that's floating around in there, I have problems with my eyes.

There's also a light, windy mist that sometimes occurs that doesn't seem to be in my eyes. Haven't been able to get anyone else to see it though. I don't think I've seen the bright dancing ones as showers/rain before.

Yeah, I'd know that I'd actually felt it before I saw them because I'd say it under my breath when I felt it. It quickly became a habit once I realized the feeling meant that I'd run into people I knew. I never had the chance to see if it worked when I was walking with another person I knew, didn't walk around with other people as often. It'd be interesting to try, but I've moved from that town, and met new people that it (apparently) doesn't work with yet.

So is way you are describing a trance out be the same as being aware as your body is falling asleep and shutting down for the night?

Yeah, polititions are people too.

4. Since some months ago (but after i started psychic training for a while) i started to see "heat waves" everywhere (and seeing the little yellow dancing dots got easier to see in certain surfaces than before, not just in the sky, in the sky now it's so easy that i see them EVERYTIME i look at the sky without effort) specially in a dark background. Sure i don't see the heat waves all the time everydays, but in anyday when i focus enought i can see that again, or just at random. When i try to see auras, besides the afterimages i do see ALL the time even 1-2 seconds after looking, sometimes i am able to see swirling black lines (very similar to the heat waves), specially in the borders of hand palms. But it doesn't seem like a aura like everyone descrives as the lines are isolated and they are very few, it's not like fumes or smoke, it's more like random sparks/lighting. Also this works better after not thinking in anything and the ringing in my ears is louder (because of not thinking in anything). Is this another natural optical illusion and absolutly not related to psionics ? In psipog they say it is. Also many times i do see "flaring" of blue dots/lines in the background of things i am looking at (specially the computer screen, but also in about any surface), it's not those transparent motes on the eyes, it's really something "electric" and i am sure it's not a physical thing, it's like sparks, they even seem to have light, it does look like energy according from posts from people that see energy but i never see this when trying to see auras. The best description i can give is : energy-version of the motes that everyone sees in the eyes, only that these doesn't seem physical.

The "energy-version of the motes" that you describe are inside the eyes, easier seen when looking at a bright or light colored object. They pop in and out and flit around for a second before they pop out again. I figure that they are blood cells traveling through the vessels at the back of the eye or something similar. The ones I see are bright as well. There are also larger, brighter still lights that happen every once in a while to me, but those are from a problem with my eyes.

I can't figure out if you were talking about the colors that are seen at the edges of things, especially when it is a light color and a dark color against each other. You can see a yellow or blue line for some reason, has to do with the way the light mixes or something, because it's picked up on cameras too and is a normal occurence.

You may be trying too hard to find things that are strange and think that they have to do with your training.

Hahaha

Sorry about that, it's rather difficult to pick up the sarcasm in text sometimes.

It's working for me.

As were we at the dawn of the years 1000 and 2000. Yes, we are all extinct now, aren't we?


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Thanks for you reply, I'll read up on ESP and clairvoyency. It didn't seem to be triggered by myself, but could have been triggered by some events leading up to it and the general feeling that the group of us were getting, which may have caused it to spontaneously happen. It's only happened that one time, purely out of the blue like that, so it'd be interesting to see if I can force it/train it to reoccur by will.

Furthermore, the world has always been teetering on the brink of extinction.

When did this start happening?

If their independent of your sight, I'm not sure what they could be. Yes, the ones I see are in my eyes, but not a disorder as far as I know. They just aren't noticed by a lot of people.

Yeah, figured I'd get some of the things that didn't fit into my normal view of 'how it's supposed to be' out again and see what knowledge comes from those.

I figure that I might as well write this down for the first time and see if anyone else has had an experience similar to this.

This happened is streaks at one point, and it was very strong and reliable for one span of a week or so. At one time, I realized I could tell if I was going to see someone I knew while I was walking down the street, they'd usually be in a car, and drive past. Once or twice I met them on the street as well. But anyhow, I'd get this feeling, can't explain it, but all of a sudden I'd  get the idea in my head that someone I knew was around.

It was funny, because I didn't realize it at first and then I kind of adapted it into the way of think when I don't think in the conventenial ways of thinking. Yeah, difficult to put properly, that's for sure.

The feeling was almost always followed by seeing someone I knew. It's always been unusual to see a person I knew as I walked down the street. I didn't know too many people. If I had to guess at the percentage rate of this it'd be in the 80 to 90% range. The feeling would strike out of the blue, because, as I said, I didn't pay much real attention to it. After I had it, and the person would go past, I'd think it was neat and would forget about it until it happened again.

Well, there's that vague one where can tell that I'm going to run into a person that I know, and then there's the one that would occour when I was near one specific person. More of a solid, physical feeling I'd get. This also had about the same success rate, but I'd know who I'd run into then.

In both of these, there was no way of knowing people were close, wouldn't have picked up the sounds of the engines in all the traffic, and wouldn't have heard the voices of the people if I would meet them on the street.

Hmm. Well it seems like I'm becoming a rambler. I'll leave it at that. If you have experienced this or you know what it'd be called or what it is, please reply.

Thanks,

c

When I got into bed, I had decided to try relaxation, focusing on the spot above and between the eyes, and feeling a beat that goes through the body. I had just read a four page thing on astral projection. Yes, I tried it all the different things I could think of at the same time, decided I might as well see what it was about. On the verge of falling asleep, I snapped back, as I sometimes do, but had a very strong humming in my ears and was accompanied by fast vibrations were strongest in my chest. I was able to strengthen and replicate the first one that came on, doing about 15 or 20 of them with each of the humming/vibrations being a bit stronger and was able to hold on to them longer.

This was different from SP and the auditory hallucinations, because I was able to control and replicate it and I never had any vibrations accompany auditory hallucinations. The noise that I was hearing was also different from the negative effect of the sound cutting out as I drift off to sleep. I was never able to control that either, just notice it and attempt to make my body ignore it so it would continue falling asleep.

For a few seconds, it seemed like an after-image of my room appeared behind my closed lids, but I am not sure if it was because of my desire to see out of the third eye again and having my mind create the visualization for me, or if it was from getting a weak signal through the third eye. The room was dark, but what I was seeing was instantly recognizable, almost outline-ish if you will.

I'm looking forward to any comments you may have,
c

(That was neat so I think I'm going to try it again.)

Just finished reading that, and I have to say that it was worth it. Being skeptical of the new age ideas allows me to filter out those ideas that seem a bit too much, like a person is trying too hard to explain things with that mentality or trying to find answers that match to it. I believe in some of these new age ideas, but it's as though I need to switch between one kind of thinking and the other to do it. It also simply explains the reasoning in thinking that skepticals and new agers have. The part that sounds funny to me is explaining the groups as two seperate things, with a large gap in the middle, which would seem to encourage to think of different thinkings as two sides, opposing each other, very rarely having the two ways of thinking occuring at the same time with the same person.

That's about all for now,
c

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Yes, that's what I'm talking about. It's hard to believe in something that cannot be proven. Trying to disprove vague ideas or concepts also rings true to me.

I had an incident a few years back while I was talking around town with two other people. As we were waiting for the crosswalk signal to change, I got a view with a perspective that was behind us by a couple of blocks, on the sidewalk that we had just walked on. The height I was looking from was a bit taller than I was, I believe, and it was moving towards us. It was rather odd, as I seem to remember the view being wider than it should have been, but I can't be sure that that part wasn't a false memory. It lasted for a few seconds, but less than 5 more than likely.

Can anyone give me some information about what they suspect this to be? I'm curious to find out/

Another thing also happened a few weeks back, where I had seen my (very bright) television turned on in my dark room. My eyes were closed, and when I opened them I realized that it wasn't night because it was still light outside. It think that I had hit an episode of SP while I napped then, but I can't remember because the thing threw me for a loop and I didn't remember it for sure.

Not being sure of this possible episode of SP is odd in itself because I remember when I have SP, there's not the idea that I -may- have had it, it has happened for sure. This confusion could have come around if I had been dragged back into sleep instead of deciding to let myself be dragged back to sleep.

Anyways, there ends my ramblings, let me know what you make of them.

Thanks,
c

Well, you need to figure out what you need to do. People who aren't in your shoes can only generalize about the options that you may or may not have. But if you want to change how you live, find a way to do it that will be a fair compromise between what you desire and what your reposibilities are that you need to keep.

If you don't need all the material goods in your house, sell some stuff, get yourself less dependent on the material goods. I'd assume that you'd discuss this with your wife before making a drastic change.

That's all the general stuff I can come up with right now, maybe more later.

Yes, I followed that link, but was unable to find anything that referred to the person that the OP was talking about. Other links, you say? I must have missed those. Backwards in the thread I go then.