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There is no fourth dimension, simply. Mathematical dimensions are only a method of measurement, so you can create as many as you want, but you can't live in one. Physical reality doesn't work that way.

So when people see a 'dimension', it's not an objective thing. They're just seeing something they haven't seen before

Awww come on, no need to sigh and it's a bit rude for you to even think that I don't care.  What is it you are doing to help these dying or suffering people?  Why is it the Govt's fault alone?  I just don't get the almost fanatical hatred of the Govt. you seem to have.

There's a quick and easy solution. People like you won't like it though

edit - clicked the wrong reply button lol

Remember that post I made earlier?

Here's an odd one: I was in a trance and saw an object in the sky, and it was pouring some kind of dust over a city. (mind-altering dust? That was the impression I got) I understood this was somewhere in Asia. I heard someone giving the order, "Spill that stuff over half the city."

I guess covering half the city would be a nice way to test it. Just monitor the behavioral differences between the two halves of the city

I got the feeling it was in China, and I might have been right http://www.news.com.au/technology/chinese-scientists-create-second-artificial-snowstorm-in-beijing/story-e6frfro0-1225796559341

The Chinese government, notably, denies involvement, which points to some wrong-doing

Thats just it, you think its illegal but they dont care, and many, many times cops have refused to give their badge numbers, once after we watched a cop beat up a 16 year old girl because she wouldnt allow them to search her apartment without a warrant. Unless you have your own camera recording directly to a live internet feed, or you record the conversation secretly, they can and will get away with whatever they want. This stuff happens stookie, and under the partriot act and other laws since, cops are encouraged to participate in this unlawful behaviour. A video showing police anti-terrorism training on the internet, even has the instructor argue that the founding fathers of the USA were terrorists. And it is well documented the police state tactics used to some tax evaders and protestors. You are probly right, they dont usually storm the house but it happened plenty of times nonetheless, and even so, you say they take you to court and fine you, for taxes that you dont legally have to pay! I just dont see the excuses being of any value, people say we are turning into a police state, then I go out and see it for myself, I can see the news propaganda for myself. So much of this I and other people can see for themselves.

Quick explanation of Xanth and Stookie's behavior:
- An unknowing person says "really?"
- A guilty person says "no we didn't"

Which are they? This is something I learned when I spent years trying to 'educate' people. They are not innocent - they know what's going on, they know who's dying and who's doing the killing. They are criminals

nix that 'high-fiber diet' thing. I ate some avocados today and my libido has been destroyed by gas

Xanth has contributed a great deal to this forum, look at his number of posts.  You dont get that many posts by hanging around a forum "trolling"

That's what Kurt said, and boy did he regret that
One wrong word to Xanth and his karma went down every 100 hours for almost a month

Nifty. I'd also suggest a high-fiber diet

Personally, I like to use the after-sperm state for a trance

it can be done

(1776) was a scam.  We never won anything, it was just the UK setting up a new colony to transfer power.

Not that I'm interested, but I heard that Washington and co. were a branch of the freemasons that conflicted with the European freemasons, and they purposely split apart. It happens sometimes because freemasonry is more of a system than a unified group. But ultimately it seems the European group regained control of the US. This happens because freemasonry is inherently a system of control based in secrecy, so the dominant freemasons are always the worst.

But I've heard a lot of stories. The formation of the US seems to have been planned by a few different groups, quite a while before Columbus took off.

Anyway we're going off on a tangent again. The guys running the world are just doing the same stuff we're doing here. Little things like telepathy, mind tricks, projection. And they're not different from us except in their role in society. They were sub-consciously chosen by the public to do all the crazy things people desire to see done.

(side note: Watch as Picard's karma goes down when he argues with Xanth)

Apparently, the good Captain thinks I'm coherent enough.

Insightful, isn't it?

It's kinda odd. While CFT clearly doesn't believe the geocentric-life model, an awful lot of her forum does.

Or maybe it's just a very noisy minority. I still have some faith in this site

And ironically many if not most inhabitants of the astral worlds are even less self-aware and much more deluded than people in the physical. There's a lot more "brainwashing" potential on the other side for some reason.

I can imagine that. Our body keeps us coherent, even when our mind wanders. Like how you can walk a long distance while thinking about a video game you just played, and your body computes the walking behavior on its own, while alerting you if something strange happens. All made possible by the cellular brain

But if your body is shut down - like when you're asleep - you're just a detached etheric mind, and there's no supplementary system to keep you coherent. Your perception shifts, you forget things quickly, there's little focus - we know how crazy dreams can be. While your etheric mind is more powerful than your brain could ever be, most of us are not very good with it.

I think, if you die with a weak energy body, you'll be an alert spirit for a while (assuming you successfully sucked out your body's remaining energy) but if you don't find an energy source, you'll lose coherence and go into a dream-like state, and if you continue losing energy, your etheric form will degrade to a state of scattered information - where you'd still exist but only as part of the planetary mind.

I can imagine Jesus as a knife-wielding killer, but chances are, this is a psychic predator (and a low-life) getting into scatterbrain's dreams. It happens. That's why we have nightmares, and why lucidity doesn't always help.

There are defenses, though. They hate it when you return the favor and get into THEIR mind, identifying them, revealing how stupid they are, laughing at them. Things like that.

As a matter of fact I had a nuisance get into my dreams a few hours ago. I'm pretty proud of how I handled it. He had me in a dark basement, and I couldn't move, but I actually overpowered the paralysis and got away. It's clear that these predators aren't invincible

I know when I was a kid, and I got scared of the dark, I learned to think of stressful things like school and I'd feel better. Having your mind running can give you more confidence

But that's not what this method does. In fact it heightens emotion at the same time. It's like, imagine some of the beings out there with greater minds - they probably imagine things with lots of color, lots of precision, lots of movement - it would seem like a drug trip to some of us. They probably tackle intimidating problems for fun. Our fuzzy imaginations and problem-solving skills would surely bore them if they saw it. That's what I think this method achieves - it's like a sort of enhancement.

Right now I'm fine-tuning the method, using it at only the right moments. For example, early morning is not a good time. The best time is when the mind is going into your every-day delirium - you catch yourself reviewing movies in your head or replaying a conversation. Stupid things. Your mind has given up on important issues. So I re-focus on important things and when I feel the stress, I start breathing faster. It's like tensing a muscle. When you 'come down' from this your mind feels totally free, also like a muscle

Xanth isn't very coherent at the moment

I just have a hard time figuring out how the good guys can be so "I run the universe and all the dimension so I can go and kill everyone without even blinking or thinking about it, I know best and you don't understand"  when I get the feeling and the message that the higher self. All that is good and understanding knows that killing interrupts your "schooling" if you can call it that. Your teachings of love and ascension.

I'm bored, so I'll address this.

I'll start with the first sentence: There's no disagreement here. The good guys don't look for excuses to kill everyone.

Whether or not killing interrupts schooling depends on what you're being taught. There are lots of schools where they use violence against kids (physical and psychological) to teach them to do rotten things. Likewise, someone who can control your incarnation cycles can do the same - they can put you in terrible situations where you suffer and die repeatedly, and it will teach you to do terrible things. For the teachers, it's mission accomplished.

How did this turn into a thread for geocentric nuttery?

Like Tiny says, you can invoke the angels against them, but I would only do this in an absolute emergency, and even then I'd be careful. It's like getting a favor from the mafia. The reason these life forms run from angels is because the angels are frickin crazy - they seriously spend day and night wondering who they should kill next, and if you get a favor from them they might start to consider you their property.

This is kinda fun
I was watching this music video http://vimeo.com/4985703 (which popped up on stumbleUpon) and it's quite awesome, despite... well, at about a minute and a half into it, my mental alarm went off as I caught the video inducing a trance state. At 1:00 it falls into a hazy, color-drained mode during which your mind begins to wander, and it's hard to monitor all the things that are being communicated (in contrast to the colorful first minute where you caught everything)

Sure enough, after this trance mode, it starts showing all these images of pyramids and eyes. Pyramids and eyes. Y'know, like the symbol on the dollar bill that seems linked to the Anunnaki. Half the dancers have pyramids for heads, half have eyes for heads, and you'll spot subliminal eye shapes if you pay attention.

It's interesting. I'm wondering what other symbols are showing up here

If you want to become a drug-head then be my guest, but that doesn't change the fact that there are entities pestering you, and you might find it more satisfying to get rid of them than to fry your brain with pills.

It sounds like you're living in a place with a lot of activity (no revelation there), and I'm no expert with this, but it might be handy to learn astral projection so these entities won't catch you off-guard. Seems like some layer of your mind is experienced with the astral, so it might be easy for you to learn to project.

But there are some folks in this forum who can help more. One person said you can repel spirits by putting salt around the room. I'm not sure why that would help (maybe the chemical compound) but it's an idea

That would explain everything. I've found the best way to go into a trance is to pay attention to every feeling and sound I get until it all becomes a blur.

It would also explain why music videos have such awful video editors, switching camera angles and settings at least once per second. Anyone who knows anything about editing wouldn't do that

(side note: That site is for wackos)

it is personal beliefs. I find yours crazy, and your assertion that they're based on any sort of science is the reason people think science is some kind of religious lunacy

Apparently using Occam's Razor and the scientific method, as opposed to blind faith, means im a few bricks short of a wall  

that's not the reason at all

on subject: Icke says a lot of things, but I think he's more driven by fame than fact, like it's all about name-branding to him. While some of his facts may be right-on, his speculations are too generalized and, frankly, racist

I think I've gotten wind of the ancient astronaut thing though. It wouldn't surprise me. A lot of ancient civilizations knew things like the Earth being round and the formation of planets and so forth. Some of them could have made contact with the outside and gotten the specifications for an anti-gravity craft.

There's so much BS out there about this

Yeah thanks for handing us some of it

Don't take Picard too seriously. He's a few bricks short of a wall

Our galaxy has life all over the place, and humanoids are a common intelligent type. Some resemble reptiles, some look like greys, some look like us. When people say 'reptilians and greys' it's hard to tell who they're talking about because a lot of species can fit either description. What they're usually talking about are the interstellar organizations that are meddling with Earth.

All humanoids are physical in the same sense that you and I are, but some have ways of transcending our perceived reality. We would only see them during astral projections or in an altered state of mind. Some live above, some below, some among us. It's a rather broad subject

To clear something up: The world is run by organizations and people who control various aspects of life, not any central governments. In fact the concept of central government is a myth - we came up with it as a way of explaining how the world is run, and that's wrong, there is no small group of people controlling everything. Even the group Kazbadan mentioned is rivaled by many others.

So we shouldn't ever blame 'government' for anything, nor credit it, as it doesn't exist

Now back to the cloud: I can imagine some groups are cashing in on it - and some may have caused it. There are certainly groups that have the tech needed. In these days when you can buy a war on the black market, it wouldn't surprise me if you can buy a natural disaster too

I want to see alien worlds with real aliens, dudes just going about their business. Maybe they are not humanoid at all. Maybe they have six limbs and don't walk upright. Maybe they don't even have technology. Maybe they are not even sentient. I'd love to just see what lives in an alien biosphere. That kind of thing is a real interest of mine. Given the number of life-supporting planets believed to exist even in our own physical galaxy, there should be a lot of worlds out there to choose from...

it gets me when people ignore simple observations and expect to find some kind of Dr. Seuss planet out there