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I picked up a copy of the Fields of the Nephilim album, Elizium a while ago, and I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of the term before. I'm pretty sure this is not a spelling error of Elysium. I think it might be some kind of occult festivle in Europe, but I'm not really sure. Any information would be much appreciated, thanks.

What leads you to believe it then?

Alright, but have you seen any of this?

Hey tareq, welcome to the Astral Pulse.

You can find a lot of useful information here, even in the old posts! Don't hesitate to ask a question (unless it has obviously been asked many times before) and plenty of us will be able to help .

Hey in'lakech, welcome to the forums!

You're certainly ambitious, thats a great start! I also found my way into the occult through Tool's music, as with many people. I hope you can find what you're looking for here, happy travels.

I think the point of the odd video presentation was to give the viewer the feel that this persons actually inside of a dream, because everything isnt always solid and static.

simple, theres always a battle of light vs dark and at times it escalates into a war

Always? Have you seen any of these wars?

Why would that lead to a war?

I'd think that people would have evolved out of concepts like this in a place like that.

Like Badwuv said, not everyone is so in touch with their bodies to be able to heal themselves as such. The point here isnt that drugs and medicine magically fix everything; yes, people can become dependant on them and thats bad, but for some people it might be the only option and it is possible to take safe dosages in moderation to start the healing process.

Hmm, I believe you're right mattoid, I remember reading about how the human brain (and probably body too) runs on a 25hour schedule.

Though given a bit more thought, I guess it could be possible to measure the length of dreams in some way. I always believed that the concept of an internal clock was peoples sensativity to the Shuman-Renaissance (amount of energy from the sun at certain times in the day).

I still doubt that more than a few determined and experienced individuals could manage to try this and have accurate results.

Exactly, it's time to start educating people on the truth.

What is the truth, isn't it different for everyone? Whats to say that an exorcism can't cure a deranged person, or that medication cant cure a possessed person?

There seems to be a LOT of possibility in this area..

So you're testing the validity of there being such a place? No one can tell you if its real or not, that is for you to decide what reality means to you.

It doesn't always take years of training to be able to do something like that, sometimes the effort alone outweighs the time trying to achieve something like that.

But my question is this: how do you know that you're not subconsiously going there, and that you just cant remember it?  

Ahh, a very interesting read, thanks for the links.

You're right, Some things can be fixed with a lot of time and effort, but some things cant and when the persons biology is the cause then thats when medication and perscription drugs are necessary to regulate the person.

Its subjective, there isnt even a way to record or measure information from an observers point of view. What feels like 10 seconds for you could be 10 hours in reality, and vise versa.

The best way would be to time youreslf inbetween dreams, which would be really complicated and sleep depriving.

Wow. What happens to all the people who can't deal with possesion?

haha

Depression is not a disease of mind. It is caused by persons not controlling their thoughts, and having negative thoughts. When thoughts are stopped, depression stops. Of course they are often caused by the negs, but depression is a product of mind. I've had extreme depression problems, and I can say, that removing negs won't help. You need also to learn to control and observe your thoughts. Vipassana meditation would be good for this. All the self-hate thought patterns should be stopped as fast as they can be.

Not true. Depression may also be caused by things other than just cognative patterns, chemical imbalances can easily effect a persons state of mind and cause the most sever types of depression.

Many things can cause depression, the more causes, the more complex the depression is.

Everyone is different, it might take time to find what really works for you. Try as many different things as possible.

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Hmm, I can offer my interpretation of this:

I think because you didnt know this girl in the dream, might have tried to show you that you still dont know the girl in real life.

Her living in the SUV seems to show that there is a lot of potential for something to happen (especially because it is big) and maybe you might be undecided when it comes to how far you want to go.

Because she wasnt talking a lot could mean that you're somewhat aware of the little communiation between you two.

I think the restaraunt part might indicate that maybe if it becomes serious that you dont know how your friends would feel about you (maybe because you wouldn't be able to spend as much time with them).

Just some thoughts here, after all its your dream. But, I think you should make a move anyways. The first step is the hardest one.

Hmm, intriguing. I like it..

I prefer to close my eyes, my mind wanders easily and I need to remove as much distraction as possible, but yes different meditations would be more efficient with one way than the other.

I would definatley look into the schizophrenia aspect of this, as there is a lot to learn. I would reccomend seeking immediate help if these things are interfering with your life.

Welcome to the forums Tool!

I also found out about the occult the same way that you probably have (Im assuming you're a big Tool fan by the name).

Generally, you will find that everyone has a different interpretation of what an OBE (out of body experience) really is, and you can only really understand it yourself by creating or perceiving your own definition of what it really is.

To me, an OBE isnt where you leave your body, but where you shift your consciousness to another plane, wavelength, vibration, etc.

There are many ways to have an OBE, do a quick search or just browse around on the forums for a bit and you'll find lots of methods.

Though if you're just starting, I highly reccomend that you begin meditating frequently (atleast half an hour per day), as meditation is absolutely necessary to inducing OBEs.

Good luck!