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As far as evidence goes, no.  It was just a deep thought I had (atleast I thought it was deep, hehe).  But, then again, what real physical evidence can you have on something spiritual in nature?

I'm interested to hear how you know that a lot of people died from developing spiritually too fast, I've never heard of such a thing.

The books are good, but I've read many fantasy books I thought to be superior, almost all I've read as a matter of fact.  Check out Robert Jordans' "Wheel of Time' series.

Oh, and I did read a Dragonlance series with Raistlin, cool stuff.

My all time favorite is a forgotten realms series about the dark elf Drizzt Do'Urden, there are about 15 books out now with im in it.. the first trilogy is 'The Dark Elf Trilogy'.

Beautiful post Ginny, that was inspirational.  I've always felt that animals could sense energy, for some reasons I always thought cats were really connected on another level.

Hehe, I don't know, ask some kids that do drugs.  And if you do, do it, don't eat too much, 2 caps + 2 stems = good 1st dose.  But then again, that depends on the strength, but that should be a good amount.

Buddhist don't try to convert people (well the type that doesn't hold Buddha as a deity, just as a man who reached enlightenment).

I think a big part of trying recruit people to your religion is insecurity, if you really know the truth about existence I imagine that you don't 'need' anyone else to know

edit:  btw, i'm not religous at all, but to each their own

I think that time is not all emcompassing.  Just a realization or perhaps an idea I had/experienced.  If God exists outside of or above time, he does not need to have a beginning, because beginning indicates that it exists within time.  

And, I think as long as we think in a linear fashion we will never understand.  I think that for conciousness itself to evolve you have to expand outwards (grow outwards), not forward.  Like going from being in a box, to being outside the box looking at it (only now you're in a bigger box).

Just my thoughts, I do not claim to be right, just thought I'd throw my theory out there.

Well, I didn't give her that much, since she's never done it.  At first she was amazed by the slight visuals she had, was watching the carpet move and such.  It was very mild for me because of experience but I was just chilling out feeling connected.

I finally got her to go sit on the front porch with me (outdoors feels so good, and just right when you trip).  I've never tripped with someone I love before, so it was a new feeling.  She felt such a profound feeling of happiness and love that she just cried for about a half an hour.

She said when I was holding her that she could feel 'our energy' touching, then she felt like she was falling into me, and couldn't tell where she stopped and I started.  I felt a lot of the same but I don't think as intense as she did.  I can always feel my energy really easily when I do it, and a few times when we were holding each other I couldn't tell which part was me and what was her.  I also had a feeling that we were trying to get to each other, but our physical bodies were blocking us..?

I had some other deep thoughts, but next time I trip, I'm going to go deeper down the rabbit hole, and take notes .

Cool experience Risu.  Whenever I have waking paralysis I feel like I'm convulsing in my bed trying to move, I need to get a camera so I can see if I'm actually moving, hehe.

I ate some with my girlfriend Monday night, her first time.  Was an awesome experience .

I recently quit smoking, I was a pot head for a long time.  It's cool if it makes you creative, but it made me stupid.  My creativity all but disappeared, and I had no focus.  I can't think anything to do or so on it, but it does make my heart chakra pulse pretty hard, which is why I think people think their heart is beating faster.

If you check your pulse, your heart is most likely fine, it's your chakra goin nuts.

I am on the same page with Logic.  The only drug I will still do is mushrooms and maybe acid again (but this is very rare).  But, I do them because of the spiritual aspects, and I do attempt to progress naturally, without an aid or whatever you want to call it.

LSD is what basically set me on the path to seek spiritual truth.

Oh, and ecstacy is nothing like shrooms, nada.

I do it maybe twice a year.  I'm not dependent on it personally.  But as far as it being hallucination, sure some of it is, just as some of what you see in the astral is.

All of it being just my imagination though? Nope.  My friend and I were finishing each others thoughts outloud, things that had nothing to do with what was going on on the outside.  And, discussed when sober to confirm that I wasn't creating it all in my head.

My other friend, who is not in the least bit spiritual, the first time we ever tripped, he said for about 3 hours he felt like his back was to the ceiling and he was watching everything from above us, could see himself laying there on the floor and everything.

I do not think people should depend on drugs or do them often if at all.  But, you cannot say that it's all BS, there are plenty of books out there on the subject.  Check out some of Alex Grey's work, read Be Here Now, then there's DMT the spirit molecule (something like that).

Then you've never done it Kajz.  You can read about it and inform yourself, but you have no clue until you do it, it's not like drinking or smoking or anything, not even close.

If you want some good reading on the topic, check out 'BE HERE NOW' or pick up The Sacred Mirrors by Alex Grey.  Also search the net for people's stories, 1000s of people in different countries aren't collaborating to make this stuff up.

I'm going to trip again soon.  Not sure what kind it is I get, but a friend and my girlfriends wants to try them (they've never done them) because she has been getting into the metaphysical side of things with me (we both just received a reiki attunement), and has heard all my tripping stories and wants to try.

Anyhow for first timers, I'm going to give them 2 caps and about 3 stems a piece, if after an hour they're not feeling much, i'll give them another cap.  I usually eat about 1/2 of an 1/8th, and that is enough to trip balls as we say round here.  Definately don't want to give too much to someone for their first time.  I wigged out the first time I ever tripped, but I don't regret the experience.

By the way TOOL(Maynard) pointed me down my spiritual path.  And, there's nothing like listening to Lateralus while shrooming.

Oh by the way.  For first timers.  Do not rush this experience.  My recommendations, is to wait for a day where it is beautiful outside.  And, be somewhere where you don't have to deal with anyone who you don't want to know what you're doing.  It can be easy to be set on a bad train of thought and you don't want that.  I always thoroughly enjoy being outside.  Dakrness can be a little scary sometimes.

I recommend a better diet and enough sleep.  I am just like you though, I'm really smart, but I don't remember things unless I'm interested or if they're funny.

I parked at the mall the other day, and when I left I walked out of the opposite side of the mall I parked on.

I suggest doing the NEW energy system work before messing with chakras.  Read Astral Dynamics if you havn't already.  I've read and heard it can be dangerous to jump right into chakras.

I just received a Reiki attunement and healing on Monday.  The whole process was pretty cool, after the healing I felt like I was on laughing gas, really floaty and happy.

I've been interested in learning acupressure or acupuncture.  Does anyone else have any experience with these?  I might go to A.R.E. and buy a book on one soon.

Hehe, sounds like heartburn.  But I would work on energy movement techniques before messing with chakras, if you havn't already.  It can be dangerous.

You should read an Edgar Cayce book Ronaldo, if you havn't already.  He was a christian pyschic.

<-- Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA

Interesting post Nay, I love reading about other's dreams.

No, you're not the antichrist.

When I was a kid I used to always got stuck in nightmares.  If I realized I was in a dream, and I liked the dream, I woke up.  If I realized I was in a nightmare and wanted to wake up, I couldn't.  I just thought God hated me.. hehe j/k.

I think it might have to do with anxiety, being afraid of not being able to wake up, made me not able to wake up, and being afraid of waking up, made me focus on waking up, and so i woke up.  

P.S.  Have you watched Pet Cemetary recentlY?

Interesting dreams.  I hope I don't come across as an butt, but I have to be 100% myself and say, you're a jerk Warlockyoshi. Jerk!

Interesting dreams though, sounds like the virus makes you a mix between an evil super saiyan and a vampire.