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Thanks Xanth.  I used to keep a dream diary but gave up the habit a couple years back.  I suppose I should pick it back up   I think I will also acquire a watch I can set an hourly alert on and use that to remind me to do the reality checks so they become a habit.  It's kind of hard to keep enthusiasm up because I've been trying to AP for so long, about 6 years on and off, but I'm not giving up.  It's kind of my driving passion.  Does anyone know about the helping technique I mentioned in my first post though?  I have a couple relatively psychic friends but don't know anybody who APs regularly so I haven't been able to try it.  I usually just wake up out of excitement but I think after I do it enough to get used to it that will stop being a problem.

Hi.  I've been trying to have an out of body experience with various different methods for several years but haven't been able to.  Since pretty much the same thing can be achieved by lucid dreaming, I figure maybe that's the route for me.  I can manage to have a lucid dream on rare occasions but the realization usually just wakes me up. I read somewhere about people actually helping each other to lucid dream.  One person would astral project or get to the real time zone from lucid dreaming and go to the other person's body while they were asleep, then just locate their spirit body and inform them that they're dreaming.  I'm not sure about the specifics like whether or not the helper had to know where the other person was physically or not.  Does anyone here have any experience with that, or would anyone like to give it a try?