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[Phase One: Basic]

quote:Originally posted by sweet_celestial_sounds


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Hey Kenny. []

I think the second week we start projection techniques.

the mail should come today.

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Each Saturday I'll focus on going to the pyramids.
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Focus on getting us out too. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. [^]

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Hey Tom.

I'd say you fell into a light sleep, and had a glimpse of the astral. I've found that the dream imagery is the astral. Depending on how sleepy you are you can fall asleep in an instant I'd say, and if you're really good I guess you can cause sleep/projections in an instant. And that is a form of projection.


Hey Fyrence.
I've never actually tried that 'Raom Gaom' mantra for remembering dreams. When I want to remember dreams I just remember them. I thought to myself I'd actually try it this time but I never have. I'd say it has worked for them and others, taking their world that the entire course is based on their experience. I'd say just give it a go regularly, and it should build up and work for you.

hmm, is ROAM GOOAM a dream remembering mantra?
I really sahouldn't forget to finally use that mantra.

Anyway I remembered my dream last night, heres another journal part:


[night]
I've woken up and remembered dreaming odd and nightmarish.
I was with soms form of a group somewhere and someone ate from the tree of life or good and evil (not that there were any visible trees there, but that was told.)
Somehow the castle like thing I was in or seemed to have always been a place or falseness,sodomites,evil. synthetic colors there were.
I became angry at the one who ate (I know him in reality)
because I became cursed, double cursed, I thought I was already cursed.
the cure seemed to be to do something odd, act in certain ways (tap on the knee?) while naming the seven sins.
I always failed somehow.

Also I remember how someone was helping me but was beneath a standing up water window.
Couldn't be possible IRL for all I know.

Very odd.

I have to say:yesterday I went swimming with my sister (her idea) +my sister bought an Ice Cream, a Magnum, one of the limited edition called.... SEVEN sins.
I said 'give me anything but not lust or sloth, I already had those.
Maybe (probably) it has something to do with my dream.

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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SHARING AND JOINING!!! [] I can feel my excitement and motivation building as this Group Effort progresses! We can come and share our experiences and see the experiences of others, share and help, all focused into the coherent effort of mastering projection. I can feel my abilities about to skyrocket now. I'm sure this can be for all of us if we accept the opportunity. []

Yes, but I get the impression that the help part is not being used so much, I have not heard anyone posting something about helping others out or sending them (ESP)-energy.
That includes me, the only one I have tried to give energy is Celestail, but that was before this group effort started. [^]

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I worked on a new projection routine for myself and I share it here. I shall work on this routine and also doing casual practices and energy work or casual energy work, etc., help from my guides and all, and I'll read Astral Dynamics and other OBE books for inspiration.

Take care.

Phase One: Basic
Projection Model 1.0
1.   Opening
    a.   Intent/Focus on being in the here and now, and giving all in the here and now, in this session!!!
    b.   Help from Wuatun (guides), Source Self, Sibling Selves, and Rings of Agreement.
2.   Magnetization
    a.   Affirmations
    b.   Goals
    c.   Purposes
    d.   Related reading
3.   Warm-up Meditation
    a.   4-2 Meditation
    b.   Visualizations
    c.   Meditation Battery
    d.   Engaging the sleep
    e.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift)
    f.   Vibrations
    g.   Blanking the mind
    h.   Heart
    i.   Heart to imagery
    j.   Relax/release
    k.   Imagery
    l.   Mantras
    m.   Letting go
    n.   Imaginations
    o.   Object Focus
4.   Positioning
    a.   DEEP relaxation
    b.   Relax/move
    c.   Letting go
    d.   Engaging the sleep
5.   Separation
    a.   Visualizations
    b.   Meditation Battery
    c.   50-1
    d.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift, etc.)
    e.   Engaging the sleep
    f.   Vibrations
    g.   Blanking the mind
    h.   Heart
    i.   Heart to imagery
    j.   Relax/release
    k.   Imagery
    l.   Mantras
    m.   Letting go
    n.   Imaginations
    o.   Object Focus
    p.    4-2 Meditation
6.   Displacement
    a.   Move
         1 Roll out
         2 Sit up
         3 Float away
         4 Etc.
    b.   Direct will/intent
7.   Reentry
    a.   Manual reentry
    b.   Direct will/intent


My First Goal: By next Saturday I want to reach the den. What's your goal???

you take care too, this routine might be very handy indeed. [8D]

goal. I don't set a timeline for goals, patience is a virtue, if you are setting timelines you are working like trading men are, western like, it is kinda the opposite of the timeless eternity of astral experience. [8D] []


Peace. [^]

I have put links on -
www.scholieren.com forum ,subforum mystical (a dutch scholars forum)
www.astralforum.com, on the methods section
www.overgrow.org, on the philosophy section in the smokers lounge.
www.wietportaal.nl, a dutch forum, in the philosophy section.

quote:Originally posted by Fyrenze

Darryl,

Does the mysticweb dream recollection mantra work for you? I've been doing breath awareness relaxations at night to try to help me get to sleep (I've had trouble sleeping for years). I've also been affirming lately that I WILL remember my dreams.

But I woke up this morning (May 8)without a fragment in mind, so I immediately tried that mantra...It didn't seem to do much of anything.

One thing of note is that when I woke up I felt rather drugged...I felt...like I was on strong codein(the actual drug hasn't messed me up that much since I was a lot smaller). And no, I'm not a habitual codein user, but I've taken it for broken bones and also once or twice during severe bronchitis.

I'm not SURE, but I think perhaps this may have been one of my subtle bodies that was still "loose"? Or else I may have just been in a light trance. I'm not familiar enough with either of these sensations to know if one is indeed what I felt this morning.

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Thanks for the remendir of the affirmation method.

I guess you're dreams where so relaxing and peaceful that your brain filled up with endorphins , the neurotransmitter which codeine is based on, to become biologiocally aware of the relaxation.
You usually remember the nightmare's better, when you are too relaxed you are too deep to remember.

Just a Theory.

Journal Update.

May 8,thursday

In music 'class' I sensed more feeling for flowing with the music.
I had keyboard.
I did everything right because I did not could but jusr felt.

I sensed and increase in my emotion and my understanding of human interaction while I was in the bus home stoned.

Read something Aristoteles wrote in Ethica, someone else brought that book.
Very interesting, about good and luck.
Had a major Deja-Vu when it happened.

see ya all.

I have to get out of body first, before I can go to Gizeh. Perhaps I'll see ya In my sleep (find me)

So let the group help other members to get out if possible.

Here are some pics you asked for







Take care friend and everyone else.

quote:Originally posted by sweet_celestial_sounds

Hey all.
My suggestions... and comments thus far...
Thanks for posting Kenny. Looks like you've been pretty busy. Keep it up. []
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Yes, I will, but I will not make every day in my journal so big when nothing really happened, I have not written in my journal after posting that piece, because nothing worth noticing happened.
I know I have more pleasant dreams, but I never remember them, only when I am just waking up I sometimes know what I dreamt, or what I am still dreaming about. Hm, second week of the course is dreaming remembering isn't it?

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Hey LJ57! [] This has already been started. Each Saturday is Group Giza day. It doesn't matter the time. All interested and involved just get there some time Saturday between 12 AM Saturday morning to 11:59 PM Saturday night. We can share our experiences on the board for this... the Pyramids on Saturdays week 1 board. Each week, Sunday starting week two, we can start a new board of this along with this Group Efforts board. I look forward to seeing your reply. []

So If Im understanding correctly every Saturday some people come to each Other In Egypt floating above the pyramids???
(If so, why not use all your power and will to help this group pulling other members out of body. [8D] ) I want to go there too. []

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Creatively come up with ways to get to Giza, and techniques to use. We'll share what we do on Sunday.  

And creativily come up with ways to pull others out when you meet at Giza [^] []

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Take care.

you too.





A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE:GO TO OTHER ( obe )FORUMS AND POST A LINK TO THIS TOPIC SO THE GROUP CAN BE AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE. PERHAPS SOMEDAY WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS ABOUT FOCUSSING ON EACH OTHER AT GIVEN TIMES ALL AT ONCE. (MAKE SURE HOWEVER THAT THE PEOPLE COMING HERE MUST ALSO GIVE HELP WHEN THEY CAN, NOT JUST RECEIVING IT.)
I'll try to pull some people from Dutch forums and another forum
to come here.

I have already PM-ed Chad btw,Celestial.


Greetings Kenny. [^]

quote:Originally posted by Greytraveller

Though I do not want to be rude If Everyone posts a weekly journal of all (or even most) of their activities regarding OBEs, projections, dreams, lucid dreams, energy work and meditation then this thread Will be too long to comfortably read. [|)]
Yet I don't want to Discourage anyone so will state that personally I plan to post only a short capsule summary of any significant experience(s) and success(es).
BTW I Did have a precognitive dream about the tornados that hit the American midwest yesterday. I will post that in the Dream forum.

It is not neccesary or even handy if everyone posts a journal like I did but I simply had this alrweady stopred up so I just quoted the whole thing.

Of course I will join. I have already joined anyway since I asked your help lfting me outta my body somehow.
I am not so sure whether you can divide OBE-ing in such stages, the master OBEers probably don't get on forums like this.

anyway, since I have to share succes.

My Journal so far.

Thursday Week 0 Day 0
4-2
late Pm,Being high trying to fall asleep. An image came to me of rainbowlike energy filling up my reptilian brain. And a little spreading their energy otherwise. I had to find the right way of imagining the colors but I was not high anymore, the image gave me energy or clarity which drove away the highness. Perhaps it's the kind of light which made my consciousness clear.
diamondlike. I tried imagining soft light and softness cloudlike environments with did have shapes however.
night
I've woken up. Or so I thought because I stood up in my dream (unsconscious OBE) sitting on the bed. I saw I didn't wear and pence and I thought I masturbated while asleep or so and though 'clean the bed'. I felt whole some way. I stood up, ignoring my clothes and opened the window and saw an odd world ,  a dreamy world it was not very clear with a black sky which was not a sky but more of a caring kind of thing. Some kind of stars or lights. I thought I saw things fly and thought;I must be out or something like this is judgemnet day, I don't know.
But most importantly I nocticed after a while a beautiful rainbow  to the right of me in the sky above. I thought by myself:there are more than 7 colors lets see if I can create them. I went back to bed and suddenly I wasn't whole again... and sitting naked on the bed seemed disgusting. I don't know if I did succed creating colors. I also dreamt oabout other spiritual things but they are very unclear.
I woke up later., perhaps I lied donin my dream and then woke up in the timespace.




Friday Week 1 Day 1
Second of May
I am reading the topic and
writing down exercises because they cant be selected unfortunately. sigh
hm,many untruths in the answers and questions section.
Not being able to change the past and psychedelics damaging your astral body does not agree with my memories.
and prozac interfering with obe doesn't either.
written. now im almost offline.
Ill see how I can remember or write down the rest.

Night
Went to the toilet, then the shower and there I let my thoughts wander off and at the same time focusted them on 'good' things. Meditetion, I always do this under the shower. its peaceful under water. I was planning to do the ROAM GOAM mantra in my mind, as written in the course, But I forgot.
Went to bed.
Woke up at 2 at night. Tried to remember my dreams if I had them. couldn't remember, I thought it was later than 2 o'clock. Smoked some Calamus +Salvia to get back to sleep and visualize. Then I did the relaxation exercise. Visualised on the concept of harmony again. Worked better this time, images of people (love in many kinds of ways) and plants in harmony, of being god and seeing all came by. Also avery vague image of a house came when I focused on letter my soul manifest itself as something in my mind;the plan was to clean up what I saw and with that clean up my own mind, Its an Indian ritual.
But unfortunately this state of mind was driven away by some part of myself or an evil spirit, I don't know, and it was replaced by abominable scenes. I focused on the house later again, as I thought it felt as if it was more of a mess than before.
Went back to sleep later.




Week 1 Day 2. Saturday
third of May
Day
Couldn't remember dreaming after waking up at somewhat before 8 o'clock.

night
Did some intuition following. breathing. smoking.
Couoldn't remember my dreams, know I've had some.

Sunday  5/4
[Day]
Can't remember dreams, slept well. I imagined a lot during my car ride o grandma and back and even after that till I'm writing this now.
Meditated on wisdom.
And the the connection with elders.
I wanted to wrote down all I thought off but I can't even remember.
Oh yeah, and I just send energy to some dogs, they seemed to like it very much.
I imagined colors flowing out of my hands into the animals body.
Colors which were emotions at the same time. J
I did one, later another came as If the other had told her about my healing hands LOL.

[Night]
I read a book about muslims before going to bed, and I believe I dreamt the whole night about muslim-like-love-and-brotherhood. and heaven.
I feel good. the last days... or weeks.

Monday 5/5
[day]
Woke up dreeamng about muslim heaven as I said, but without any 72 virgins fortunately.
I feel my imagination becoming better. I think I have tried to imagine things with the part of my consciousness that is rational and therefore not capable of imagining. I must have found a way to activate my right-hemisphereic part more. And my emotional part. I have just got a book about the links between consciousness and perception of the body, coordination and brainparts controlling the function of the self, the energy is very low with me in that brain, so said the electronic energy reading on a parafair.

Hmm, its hours later by now and I still feel enlightening effects of the practice in making me more aware of my body + another thing I try to do is do not think bt feel, do not ever name something,define something, that is the key I found to becoming truly aware in a totally different way.


[night]
Went in the shower and meditated some standing up.
I knew I've dreamed about something good.
But I forgot what .

Tuesday 6/5
[day]
Almost dinner time and my day has been Bright.
Nothing in particular.
I have 'meditated' while working, about happiness,goodness, truth,love,  and how they are connected because of this feeling of positive thinking and brightness I have the last couple o' days.


greetings and good luck to this plan.

I sometimes try to visualize energy flowing in my animalistic or right brainn  hemisphere.
I am obsessed with harmony in the brain.
To me it represents paradise and perfection

I began having deja-vu's with everything that happened, I do not even know how long ago, because I feel like I've experienced many things I am now experiencing just happened a couple 'o months ago.
My whole life is still a major deja-vu.
then, I began to 'remember' things about being damned, being the only one damned by a God.
Memories of living in an universe which an absolute form of good and evil, good is/was following the will of God, evil is following the will of the nothing, opposite to God. I was God's second son in that universe, and my purpse was never being loved, and being tortured indefinitly in order to become nothingness, and after that I burst out creating a whole new carpet of universes.
Kinda like a natural law.

these memories passed and somewhat later I thought/remembered that that universe was just a game of some higher God, and I still was the only one damned, but not to fulfill some kind of law of nature, but because of a reason I did not ought to know, after all, not-knowing would hurt me.

After that slowly came memories of being God myself, after somehow 'escaping' from damnation.
This is beyond the previous memories, it reduced them to being like an atom in an infinite ocean.

Reality is that 'god/I/you has 'powers'/abilities far beyond anything any religion states.
God is not a being who wants to experience the world and is sending out parts of himself to lower worlds, nor a man sitting on a throne judging us.
Rather, he can experience every story and possibility at once.
And he can alter and enlarge any concept.
Love and consciousness or anything like that is not the higehst thing there is, every concept can be split up in an infinite amount of qualitys and properties.
god does not need to create like we create something.
He can just say, for example, that he wants a universe full of stars beside him, including life on planets in that universe and there it is, he does not need to consciously create the place of the stars, or the components or the stars, or the life in that universe. If he wantsevery atom in this universe to sing a 100000000 instument song according to its nature (whatever that means), and if he wants every one of those atoms singing/making music in harmony with each other, then so it is. No need to compose the song for himself.
However if he wants the ability to compose infinite songs then he can have it within the blink of an eye.
He can say something like 1 is being alive, 2 is consciousness, what is 3? and 4,5,6,7,8,9? And then there it is, 7 new components added to the universe, all being a step beyond conciousness.
there are not 7 chakras. or 7 colors. or 5 senses. or a limited number of emotions.
god can experience everything in the universe as an emotion.
god can create an infinite amount of emotions, o senses or chakra's. He can program us concious beings like we can program computer programs.
I have been Jezus Christ. I have been the Dalai Lama. I have been everyone on earth.
How? Simple, first just becuase there are many different earths.
Second because Jezus means nothing.
There is no such thing as developing the soul.
everyone can be as loving or evil or good or anything else
as 'god', or a being with his kind of power, wants.
If gods says he wants to feel an infinite amount of love beside him, then there is an infinite amount of love beside him.
But love is an atom in a sea just like every other concept we think of as fundamental. Love means nothing to god. god can add concepts or properties to that which we all love making it something much better/bigger/whatever than we ever could imagine. Our brain can see little. We can think with our left or right brain hemisphere. If God had a brain it would be infinite in size, because the 'universe' itself is infinite, because infinity
is just a concept exidsting in the universe, a universe with an infinite X infinite x infinite (x infinite for an infinite number of times)
number of concepts,emotions, things better than love,conciousness,experience, timedimensions,spacedimensions,other dimensions, senses, etc things we don't know about.

God can create a world(s) with their own God, shaped kinda like our religions think it is shaped.
A universe with a god which does not know he is not at all as powerful as he thinks he is.
He can let that universe exist for all eternity, and then get all the beings living in there back to him.
It is incomprehensible for a human, that something can start, live FOREVER and therfore having an INFINITE amount of experiences, and then come back.
I fear I may have to live for all eternity before I can get back to being God.
It means nothing to him/me.

Thats kinda it. As such, My memories of 'past lives' are memories of being God, memories of being a tortured angel called Mikel/son of god (in a universe shaped just like new agers think it is) which was forced to live millions upon millions of lives just for the fun of the other angels. Everyone is selfish. Everyone can be 'programmed' to think that is is good to torture someone even when that someone is the kindest persone in the universe, for all eternity, forcing that person to live millions of lives in a civilization which knows about the spiritual world, a civilization with people who each have one child at home, a reincarnation of me, and who are all abusing and torturing that child in horrible and cruel ways. (locking me up in a closet for 80 years or so, life after life like that)
As such I am amused when people say living 1,or 10, or 100, or 1000 lives before you can become enlightened is a long time.
But those memories are just like an atom in the sea.
Even though I rationally know hat memory of being Mikel is nothing compared to the real size or the universe, those are still fresh in my mind.

Mymemories are mostly rational.
I don't have much emotions or imaginary abilities and I feel just like Mikel did in that sub-universe ,like a zombie, because of what they called a curse,
but I don't know where that feeling of not existing, being like a zombie came from this time.


Well, that is enough information for now I think, that should give you an idea. Why do I think these memories are real?
Don't know, just because it feels like any memory I think.


O, one more thing, because of the things I told you, being Mikel, I do not trust you or anyone. I have lived in worlds in the same body and place I am now, thinking I lived in a world where someone called Osama destroyed some buildings called WTC on 11 sept. and where there was a war in Iraq, when I reality that was just like The Truman show. (My nickname in one of the universes truman or tortureman)
which means that everyone in that world was actually living in some kind of utopia watching TV or something like it at home, seeing my life.

And I do not know If this world is real, for all I know this is a reality where I am still truman and where you are a vampire. Or this could be the universe where my moher is a powerful witch.
Or the one where It is good to torture me.
I do not know. I don't trust anyone at all, such experiecnes taught me that.

hello celestial. []

Too bad I am still at beginner, but Salvia is increasing my imagination. Everythings going well.